Quotes of the day

posted at 10:47 pm on November 15, 2012 by Allahpundit

The polite praise initially showered upon Mitt Romney for having waged a good fight against President Obama has given way to a plea from some Republicans: Please stop talking.

A week after the election, as Republicans examine how to recalibrate and regain their footing, Mr. Romney’s suggestion that he lost the race because of the “gifts” that Mr. Obama gave to black, Latino and young voters did not sit well with some party leaders gathered here for a meeting of the Republican Governors Association.

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A handful of prominent Republicans criticized Mitt Romney for his disparaging remarks about President Barack Obama’s “gifts” to core constituencies, saying that it was the wrong message to send voters as the party tries to rebuild itself after a bruising defeat.

“I don’t think it’s helpful,” Iowa Gov. Terry Branstad told POLITICO at the Republican Governors Association conference on Thursday. “I guess my feeling is that we need to turn the page, and we need to focus on the future and not make excuses for the past.”

In Las Vegas to attend the RGA conference, Florida Gov. Rick Scott called Romney’s comments “inappropriate.”

“It’s wrong, it’s not true,” Scott told POLITICO, adding: “What we’ve got to do is say we want every vote, we want to take care of every citizen in our state.”

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“I don’t want to rebut him point by point,” Rubio said of Romney. “I would just say to you, I don’t believe that we have millions and millions of people in this country that don’t want to work. I’m not saying that’s what he said. I think we have millions of people in this country that are out of work and are dependent on the government because they can’t find a job.”

Rubio added that the economy is not producing jobs and many unemployed workers don’t have the required skills for vacant positions, “and therein lies the challenge for the conservative movement; how do our ideas help change that.”

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The White House today said Mitt Romney is “at odds with the truth” for the belief, as he told donors on a call, that “extraordinary financial gifts” from the administration to minority voters won the election for President Obama…

“Making it easier for Americans to go to college, that’s good for America. It’s good for all Americans. It’s good for the economy,” Carney said. “Making health care available to young people who can stay on their parents’ plans. That’s good for those families it’s good for those young people so they aren’t bankrupted in their 20s by an illness.

“The president pursues policies that have at their core a desire to build the middle class, strengthen the middle class, make the middle class more secure because that’s what makes America more secure,” said Carney. “It’s just not the view we take about the decision the American people made last week.”

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Most everybody agrees that Obama’s decision to exempt young illegal immigrants from deportation helped him win a massive victory among Latinos. But Romney’s inartful comment about “gifts” belies a more serious long-term problem for the GOP in appealing to Latinos.

The problem: Whether you call them “gifts” or “government services,” they are very popular with Latinos. And that doesn’t jibe with the core principles of the Republican Party…

This is a big reason why we’ve seen such a swift GOP backlash against Romney for his comments. The “47 percent” and “gifts” rhetoric can be hugely harmful to this effort, and Republicans want to put it behind them in a hurry.

The GOP may correct its course on immigration reform in the coming weeks and months; convincing Latinos to buy into its small-government philosophy will take considerably more time.

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The conference call underlined what I have been saying for well over a year: that Mr. Romney has no idea what conservatism offers 100 percent of Americans who believe that freedom leads to prosperity and centralized planning is a road to serfdom. That message led Margaret Thatcher to an unlikely victory in 1979 and Ronald Reagan to a historical landslide a year later. And if Mr. Romney believes that message is no longer relevant to Hispanics and African-Americans, he should’ve stayed in La Jolla to oversee the building of his car elevator.

The future belongs to conservatism. It’s time Republicans start electing leaders who actually believe it

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1. Stop looking backward. We have to boldly show what the future can look like with the free market policies that we believe in. Conservative ideals are aspirational, and our country is aspirational.

2. Compete for every single vote. The 47% and the 53%. And any other combination of numbers that adds up to 100 percent. President Barack Obama and the Democrats can continue trying to divide America into groups of warring communities with competing interests, but we will have none of it. We are going after every vote as we try to unite all Americans…

6. Quit “big.” We are not the party of big business, big banks, big Wall Street bailouts, big corporate loopholes, or big anything. We must not be the party that simply protects the well off so they can keep their toys. We have to be the party that shows all Americans how they can thrive. We are the party whose ideas will help the middle class, and help more folks join the middle class. We are a populist party and need to make that clear.

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“I’m not saying that’s what he said. I think we have millions of people in this country that are out of work and are dependent on the government because they can’t find a job.” Marco Rubio

I’m going to say that if you mix what Mitt said with what Marco said, you’ve got the spot-on truth. Forty-seven percent want free stuff, we’ve already lost that battle for now, but they would be less apt to be so persistent in asking for it if the economy were good enough that they could find a job.

Glenn Jericho on November 16, 2012 at 2:11 AM

Frank Luntz (I know)said something interesting on Hannity the other day. I’m paraphrasing but it was something like -conservatives need to shake the *uncaring* label. Luntz used the town hall debate as an example. He said when that college student was worried about finding a job after he graduated that Romney shouldn’t have gone right into his talking points. Instead, he should have showed caring by asking, What degree are you going after? What sort of job are you wanting? And then Luntz said Romney should have used the word *imagine*. Imagine a country where…. Imagine a job market like…
That sounds much more effective. I know Luntz is often a dunce but…every once in a while…

AZgranny on November 16, 2012 at 2:01 AM

EXACTLY.

People like us already know that the average Republican/Conservative does care about people, and isn’t the least bit racist, but many non-Republicans don’t understand this, for various reasons.

We on the Right need to do a better job conveying who we are, and it really doesn’t take a lot to do so – simply listening to others, and correcting them when necessary, without condemning, attacking, or preaching at them works wonders!

Anti-Control on November 16, 2012 at 2:15 AM

How about, see how many babies you can have? (I keed. I keed.)

kunegetikos on November 16, 2012 at 2:16 AM

That was the choice him or another four years of Obama.

If that’s not enough for conservatives to come out and vote, then that’s just too bad and they have to own it.

This.

The Resolute Desk on November 16, 2012 at 2:17 AM

Romney is telling the truth

We’re broke and Obama was able to pay off idiot constituents with looted dollars.

The electorate is a paid off Welfare mob and the country is finished.

If we couldn’t get rid of that psychotic leftist in the White House and elect a decent man like Mitt Romney in the middle of a Recession, then let it burn.

TexasJew on November 16, 2012 at 2:19 AM

We on the Right need to do a better job conveying who we are, and it really doesn’t take a lot to do so – simply listening to others, and correcting them when necessary, without condemning, attacking, or preaching at them works wonders!

Anti-Control on November 16, 2012 at 2:15 AM

…(except for trolls!) (:->)

KOOLAID2 on November 16, 2012 at 2:20 AM

Dark Star on November 16, 2012 at 1:31 AM

Peace out.

The Resolute Desk on November 16, 2012 at 2:29 AM

TexasJew on November 16, 2012 at 2:19 AM

Cicero had some words to that effect, about two thousand years ago. Right then, right now. Anyone heard from the Roman Empire lately?

The Resolute Desk on November 16, 2012 at 2:32 AM

…(except for trolls!) (:->)

KOOLAID2 on November 16, 2012 at 2:20 AM

lol

If you remember, I wholeheartedly supported the idea of the Trollcott, as I always will! :)

I am definitely not advocating that we be passive pushovers, only that we don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater i.e. I agree with Mitt’s general idea about the “47%”, my problem with it is that I believe the actual % of unreachables is closer to 30 than it is to 47.

I’d like to point out that Mitt didn’t initially state that 47% figure for public consumption, which showed good judgment on his part, but unfortunately it was leaked and became a campaign issue, probably causing his loss.

Anti-Control on November 16, 2012 at 2:38 AM

Read and reread Republic V.

kunegetikos on November 16, 2012 at 2:41 AM

I’m going to say that if you mix what Mitt said with what Marco said, you’ve got the spot-on truth. Forty-seven percent want free stuff, we’ve already lost that battle for now, but they would be less apt to be so persistent in asking for it if the economy were good enough that they could find a job.

Glenn Jericho on November 16, 2012 at 2:11 AM

I completely agree with the principle of what you are saying.

I am not happy with the election results, but I am not demoralized. The way I see it, if Akin had dropped out of his race as I believe he should have, if Mourdock had articulated his position about abortion better, and that “47%” comment hadn’t been leaked, we wouldn’t presently be talking about what the GOP needs to change for its future so intensely, to that point that it’s become obsessive for some.

Anti-Control on November 16, 2012 at 2:54 AM

Apparently Mitt Romney is no better ex-candidate than he was a candidate. If he really believes these things, maybe it’s a good thing he wasn’t elected, though I can’t believe I just wrote that. But, the man is a real dunderhead if he believes this crap.

Which reminds me, the tragic thing about his 47% comment wasn’t, as some would suggest, that it was caught on tape. The tragic thing is that he said it in the first place.

I think Mark Levin’s advice to Karl Rove might be apropos pro here, just “Get off the stage” and let’s move on.

IndieDogg on November 16, 2012 at 2:55 AM

Idiocy of the elite republicans.

For the first time, I agree with failed nominee Romney. For the first time in his life, Romney has said something that he truly believes in. Good for yeh, Romney, the loser!

Obamaphones are a gift …. to buy votes. Pure and simple.

Rubio, the squishee, for the first time said something negative to Romney, because Romney’s anointment as the presumed, electable nominee has already passed. Enough of affirmative action Rubio.

Waiting for Hillary to win 2016 based on the continuing elitism and lack of common sense of erudite Republicans, including the many commenters here at HA.

How’s your Romney working for you, fake conservatives of HA who only loves to win at all costs!

LET THE SYSTEM CRASH!

TheAlamos on November 16, 2012 at 3:01 AM

“Making it easier for Americans to go to college, that’s good for America. It’s good for all Americans. It’s good for the economy,” Carney said. “Making health care available to young people who can stay on their parents’ plans. That’s good for those families it’s good for those young people so they aren’t bankrupted in their 20s by an illness.

overlooking secondary effect? broken glass fallacy? Henry Hazlit? Anyone? Anyone?

idiots!

beselfish on November 16, 2012 at 3:13 AM

LET THE SYSTEM CRASH!

Actually, that could work if not for the fools that would blame it on not enough bank regulation or too many tax breaks for the rich.

nah, piling on so the system burns won’t help. Edgy thought but, pointless.

beselfish on November 16, 2012 at 3:19 AM

Which reminds me, the tragic thing about his 47% comment wasn’t, as some would suggest, that it was caught on tape. The tragic thing is that he said it in the first place.

IndieDogg

The tragic thing is it’s true.

Making health care available to young people who can stay on their parents’ plans. That’s good for those families it’s good for those young people so they aren’t bankrupted in their 20s by an illness.

I didn’t realize it was illegal for young people to buy health insurance before this change in the law. By the way, it only goes up to 26, so they can still be bankrupted in their 20s, Carntard.

xblade on November 16, 2012 at 3:27 AM

AZgranny on November 16, 2012 at 2:01 AM

Anti-Control on November 16, 2012 at 2:15 AM

I made this comment earlier today. I’m sorting through some old things I wrote several years ago, and I came across this quote from David Horowitz in 2009:

The only way to defeat the left — and I have failed in twenty years of arguing this to persuade conservatives — is to turn the table around and attack their moral self-image. Leftists are in fact the enemies and oppressors of women, children, gays, minorities and the poor, and conservatives should never confront them without reminding them of this fact.

It was true then. It’s true now.

There are politicians who have done this, and done it quite effectively because they actually saw this and believed it. Ronald Reagan is one.

INC on November 16, 2012 at 3:44 AM

nah, piling on so the system burns won’t help. Edgy thought but, pointless.

beselfish on November 16, 2012 at 3:19 AM

It may feel good to say it, but it’s short-sighted and foolish.

From Ebben Raves at the American Thinker: Time to Let the Country Crash?

Think Weimar Republic. That’s pretty much sums up his point.

This is another comment I made in the headlines about the Let It Burn mentality.

We’re in a crisis of character, and frankly, the last thing the country needs is a nihilistic Let It Burn caucus. The Entitlement Mentality is part of the character crisis on the Left, but this Let It Burn Mentality is part of the character crisis of the Right.

In December 1776 Philadelphia was in such a state of chaotic panic that it took Thomas Paine 10 days to get The American Crisis printed. It was finally printed in a newspaper on December 19th, and as a pamphlet on December 23rd. He didn’t give up and say Let It Burn.

On December 18, 1776, George Washington wrote his brother and another relative and told them:

. . .In a word my dear Sir, if every nerve is not strain’d to recruit the New Army with all possible expedition, I think the game is pretty near up

Did he lay down and die or go back to Mount Vernon and say Let It Burn?

Cynicism and despair and contempt don’t solve a thing. They may give a false sense of superiority, but that’s about it.

Surrounded by charlatans, takers and petty tyrants, we need grit and endurance. Whether the game is up for us or not, the very least we can do as Americans and Patriots is to have the courage and character and compassion to do what we can in our own circle of influence.

INC on November 16, 2012 at 3:57 AM

it almost to the point now where i don’t want to hear any news.
it always turns out badly in the end. no matter what. the left fight till they not only win, but continue to stomp your head in.

when the gop wins, the first thing they do is compromise, which turns it into another win for the left.

let it burn.

renalin on November 16, 2012 at 5:29 AM

good morning!

it’s bash mitt day apparently…

cripe

cmsinaz on November 16, 2012 at 5:36 AM

the lsm gleefully reporting all of this crapola…and they are giving it to them on a silver platter

forget about the more pressing matters, the squishy gop are giving the lsm their own squirrel

wake up folks

cmsinaz on November 16, 2012 at 5:38 AM

ok petraeus, man up and tell the truth…the lsm are just itching to to say dear leader is right and the cia are a bunch of bungling fools…they’ll say it anyways but at least you’ll have the truth on your side….

and squishy gop, go after lsm and the dems….the cia didn’t give her those taling points…someone in the wh did

cmsinaz on November 16, 2012 at 5:40 AM

ok petraeus, man up and tell the truth…
cmsinaz on November 16, 2012 at 5:40 AM

petraeus wore a good conduct medal. something only grunts wear. don’t get your hopes up.

he’s a lying weasel. ask his wife.

hope you have a great day though:)

renalin on November 16, 2012 at 6:01 AM

renalin on November 16, 2012 at 6:01 AM

got to have a little hope…

this administration has gotten away with murder and I wish at least 1 person would go after them…stand up to them

say enough is enough with the lapdog media

cmsinaz on November 16, 2012 at 6:07 AM

crap….why did I do it….

just turned on mojo…the first thing they want to talk about his mitt and his gifts….

nevermind what else is going in the world…Mitt is topic #1 on msdnc…

turning it off now…

cmsinaz on November 16, 2012 at 6:08 AM

When speaking of buying votes, we must remember it’s not just the unemployed or students. It’s also unions which receive the benefits of policies that are made. Do we think the UAW is going to vote against someone who saves their jobs with bailout money?

eforhan on November 16, 2012 at 6:12 AM

cmsinaz on November 16, 2012 at 6:08 AM

Mourning, darlin’

OmahaConservative on November 16, 2012 at 6:20 AM

OmahaConservative on November 16, 2012 at 6:20 AM

Hey OC….Grateful it’s friday….

wonder what the friday evening news dump will be tonight? something about benghazi?

cmsinaz on November 16, 2012 at 6:27 AM

http://wp.me/pSio7-1JP

Mornin’, yall.

The MSM is trying everything they can to keep America from paying attention to BenghaziGate, Israel, and other horrible failures of Obama’s Smart Power!

Speaking of Israel, my take.

Mitt is a gentlemen, and a Moderate.

However, GOP, running Moderates has not worked. How about trying Conservatism, instead?

kingsjester on November 16, 2012 at 6:30 AM

Amazing how much Benghazi coverage we are getting post election…

OmahaConservative on November 16, 2012 at 6:31 AM

As long as we let the Left do things like redefine the meaning of “rich” to include working people who spend most of what they earn (a family of four with two working parents in NYC with little to no net assets and making less than a half million a year is by no wild stretch of the imagination “rich”), there is absolutely no chance whatsoever that we will not crash and burn.

As long as “conservatives” pile on when someone like Romney speaks the truth, there is absolutely no chance whatsoever that we will not crash and burn.

fadetogray on November 16, 2012 at 6:32 AM

Well, imbedding the link did not work that time. Sorry about that.

kingsjester on November 16, 2012 at 6:33 AM

kingsjester on November 16, 2012 at 6:30 AM

good take KJ

HE is with them

OmahaConservative on November 16, 2012 at 6:31 AM

and they are trying their darndest to frame the narrative to make it look good for dear leader deflecting all the blame….like he’s not involved AT all what occurred….its all bashing gop for going after susan rice…

cmsinaz on November 16, 2012 at 6:37 AM

crap….why did I do it….

just turned on mojo…the first thing they want to talk about his mitt and his gifts….

nevermind what else is going in the world…Mitt is topic #1 on msdnc…

turning it off now…

cmsinaz on November 16, 2012 at 6:08 AM

I turned it on today for the first time since the election. That’s it, they’re dead to me.

Naturally Curly on November 16, 2012 at 6:38 AM

If people want Romney to stop talking, then maybe they should stop talking about him. Leave him alone..stop whining about how better Obama was getting bus loads of people to the polling places or whatever.

Besides, there is a difference between what a man who has just lost will say and what someone who is running will say.

I think Romney is right. I think most people know it, but not all of them will admit it. Not in mixed company anyway.

And this is exactly why Bush ran on compassionate conservatism. He ran as a compassionate conservatism, because the other kind gets a bad rap.

Terrye on November 16, 2012 at 6:40 AM

Naturally Curly on November 16, 2012 at 6:38 AM

yepper….

Ed just let us know if you’re ask to appear again….

cmsinaz on November 16, 2012 at 6:42 AM

“Making it easier for Americans to go to college, that’s good for America. It’s good for all Americans. It’s good for the economy,” Carney said. “Making health care available to young people who can stay on their parents’ plans. That’s good for those families it’s good for those young people so they aren’t bankrupted in their 20s by an illness.

What has Obama done to make it easier for anyone to go to college? They still have the borrow the money, they still have the debt..it is not free.

As for staying on their parents health care, that is dumb. Why not keep them on until they are 40? The truth is catastrophic health insurance for healthy young people is cheap..their parents could just pay for it for them and it would not that big a deal.

Terrye on November 16, 2012 at 6:44 AM

and squishy gop, go after lsm and the dems….the cia didn’t give her those taling points…someone in the wh did

cmsinaz on November 16, 2012 at 5:40 AM

Yes…in fact, Obama himself said as much.

Terrye on November 16, 2012 at 6:48 AM

Terrye on November 16, 2012 at 6:48 AM

the lsm won’t admit it though…

deflect deflect deflect

cmsinaz on November 16, 2012 at 6:52 AM

General Petraus, speak the truth and shame the devil!

Naturally Curly on November 16, 2012 at 6:54 AM

Odd that QOTD doesn’t even get 300 posts these days…

OmahaConservative on November 16, 2012 at 7:04 AM

As for staying on their parents health care, that is dumb. Why not keep them on until they are 40? The truth is catastrophic health insurance for healthy young people is cheap..their parents could just pay for it for them and it would not that big a deal.

Terrye on November 16, 2012 at 6:44 AM

We raised three sons. This is exactly what we did – buy them cheap major medical insurance policies when there were gaps in coverage.

Our medical insurance premiums next year are going up 36% so somebody else doesn’t have to take this responsibility.

Ugh.

esr1951 on November 16, 2012 at 7:07 AM

OmahaConservative on November 16, 2012 at 7:04 AM

yup….

cmsinaz on November 16, 2012 at 7:13 AM

Two problems with this story.

1, I bet Mitt said a lot more things that did not get leaked to the press. I bet some of them sounded good, gracious, heartfelt etc. If someone has a link I would like to read it for myself.

2. I bet no one asked Bobby Jindal a question that would have an answer that made republicans feel good, they went after that sound bite parsed single word “gifts”…not even 47% of the people…who don’t pay taxes… who are not going to vote for tax cuts. Why didn’t they ask Bobby Jindal how republicans get people who don’t pay any taxes to vote for them? That is OUR question. It’s not the medias question.

3. Here is how the gifts work. You get a bunch of people and sign them up for Obama phones. Then you ride them around following Romney’s campaign so that people say, isn’t that the same group we saw protesting at the last stop? Then you use your buses to pick up people on streets where registered voters rarely vote. You hustle them in and they vote by house address. “LONG lines are a form of voter suppression,” and hold up the efficiency. Voter ID’s really are troublesome with people who did not know they were going to have to vote. Then the bus takes them back and then the bus takes the next bunch of people to the polls. You make sure you have enough voters to win in line when it is time to close the polls. Unions do this for you. Free GoTv, thanks to union dues.

In MA, Elizabeth Warren’s daughter used MA taxpayer funds to sign up welfare recipients and register them to vote, and get their absentee ballot. They are not looking for the consensus of likely voters on election day, they need to stuff the ballot box.
That is how the machine works. There is always another busload to come if the person that counts the votes tells you they need some more, just a matter of time,( and therefore Long Lines, lead to voter suppression.)

Here is a link so you can read about the welfare voters in MA, because it is so much crazy talking you might think I am making it up.

http://bostonherald.com/news/politics/view.bg?articleid=1061151768

Fleuries on November 16, 2012 at 7:19 AM

OmahaConservative on November 16, 2012 at 7:04 AM

yup….

cmsinaz on November 16, 2012 at 7:13 AM

All those who entered during the dual Open Registrations to stir things up during the elections, are not hanging around anymore.

kingsjester on November 16, 2012 at 7:23 AM

Of course we all know that Mitt was correct. Without the dead voters, the convicted felon voters and the legal & illegal immigrant voters, Romney would have won the election. What Mitt could/should do now is to help create a new more nation centric Republican party – seperate from the existing GOP train wreck. DD

Darvin Dowdy on November 16, 2012 at 7:25 AM

Ding ding ding….. good call KJ

cmsinaz on November 16, 2012 at 7:37 AM

aaaaaw

poor GOP is upset cause Mitt told the truth :(

I understand, Jindal probably wants to run for president so he has to say it. God forbid people hear the truth.

Slade73 on November 16, 2012 at 7:47 AM

Silver Lining.

From the article:

… the GOP dodged ownership of the second great recession, which will inevitably hit when the Federal Reserve can no longer float the economy in pools of free money. When that happens, Barack Obama won’t have George W. Bush to kick around.

esr1951 on November 16, 2012 at 7:51 AM

All those who entered during the dual Open Registrations to stir things up during the elections, are not hanging around anymore.

kingsjester on November 16, 2012 at 7:23 AM

They may be back. Now that they will be Twinkie deprived (thanks to the union) who knows how they will detox.

Happy Nomad on November 16, 2012 at 7:56 AM

Jindal and his ilk should spend some time in a Blue State, like the one I am holed up in. If he got out of government for awhile, spent a little time in the main stream, the truth would bite him right in the arse.

Obamacare will subsidize insurance for families making under 90K per year. THAT my friend is quite a few potential voters for the dems. The campaign theme in 2016 will be ” The republicans want you to die, AND they want to take away your insurance subsidy”. Combat that one Jindal.

A smart man ran for office in 2012 and a dumb man with an agenda ran for re-election in 2012. The dumb man with an agenda won the election. Not so dumb after all.

shar61 on November 16, 2012 at 8:00 AM

If Jindal whom I had really liked can’t see that we have a sick core of layabouts feasting off the government teat and if he represents the future of the Republican party, then I say a pox upon all their houses. We’re screwed with Obama’s re-election anyway so lets use the time in purgatory to burn down the RINO party and form a new, sadly minority, party of fiscal conservative capitalists. The RINO strategy of Democrat lite will culminate in amnesty which will expand the Democrat party further. We need an effective, focused opposition, not a me too echo unwilling to face the elephant in the room of an ever growing populace of government dependents. What good is a Republican party that cannot even acknowledge the problem?

philw1776 on November 16, 2012 at 8:06 AM

After squishy Repubs like AllahPundit, Romney, idiot Jindal, faux-con Rubio manage to define the Repub message we can welcome the final end of this stoopid party and Conservatives can finally be done with it!

el Vaquero on November 16, 2012 at 8:10 AM

you know what we need? comprehensive immigration reform (read:amnesty)

Slade73 on November 16, 2012 at 8:23 AM

channel surfing and i see a big fat whale on msnbc (christie in his natural habitat

since when did they become the nature channel?

renalin on November 16, 2012 at 8:29 AM

Well, the truth is that Romney lost because of massive voter fraud which the repubs won’t touch (probably because they do it as well, however, the dems proved much better at it).

As far as the “freebies” comment? It wasn’t politically correct,
however, is factual. Free housing, free food, free clothing, free medical, free dental, free breakfast/lunch for school children, free cellphones, laptops, what next?

What really annoys me are these repub creeps coming out of the
woodwork to attack Romney. Is this their strategy to raise their profiles in order to get looked at for 2016? And which “donor”
let this comment leak? Was he/she angry that since Romney lost
the overnight in the Lincoln bedroom was not going to happen?

Its going to be Rubio and Jindhal, or little Georgie Bush (perish
the thought). Someone to appeal to the non whites.

One thing you can bet on – it won’t be Allen West, black conservative. Move on folks, nothing is going to change, the rino idiots are still in charge.

Amjean on November 16, 2012 at 8:36 AM

Romney is right. Rubio, Jindal, Brandstad and Allahpundit dead wrong.

This is a time when the GOP needs to be a leaner meaner party. It’s time for bomb-throwing, name-calling, even cussing at our Democrat opponents. This is absolutely no time to be going squishy.

They are moochers. Obama won this election by voter fraud and blatant vote purchasing. Let’s expose them. Let’s not appease them.

If that means we lose some votes, fine. These were votes we weren’t going to get anyway.

Time to Di-vorce, De-friend, and De-employ any Democrats in your life. They are the enemy and should be treated as such.

ericdondero on November 16, 2012 at 8:54 AM

As far as the “freebies” comment? It wasn’t politically correct,
however, is factual. Free housing, free food, free clothing, free medical, free dental, free breakfast/lunch for school children, free cellphones, laptops, what next?

Yeah.. high fashion clothing.. free food they force supermarkets to give away..something they can force. Wait for it.

Noelie on November 16, 2012 at 8:55 AM

Why this train of beating Romney up of late from Republicans?

THIS is the Republican’s problem. They were not wholly behind their candidate. Everyone was thinking of his/her own future standing and hedge accordingly, to serve self. I did not agree with Romney 100%, did not worship him the way the left does Obama. However, I know when you are not united, you are losing. And of late, seeing all the Republicans coming out telling Romney to hush so their behinds can be saved, my respect for the Republicans is on its way to meet that for the fake champions of the poor Democrats.

Romney has the truth in his statement here. And of course it would offend the people voting for Obama, because they are exactly that, gift recipients. I know many in my ethnic community here, in CA. And the irony is that they “escaped” communists thus are fiercely anti communist, but they are very much enjoying life long subsidized housing, food stamps, free healthcare, welfare, etc and these are the things which make US a great country in their mind, not quite the freedom of speech (because they, like the Democrats, don’t allow it if it’s not what they want to hear).

Being Asian immigrant, and thank to Obama and his lap dog media in the last 4 years, I have seen Asians operate on many level. They may have degrees, better success than blacks and browns, but their mentality is still third world — petty, calculatedly self-serving, greedy for freebies — and/or victim-inclined like the blacks and browns. They have accomplished greater than the darker skinned immigrants/citizens in this country but they have as little interest in this country, its history, its all around future as the others.

Call me racist, auntie Tom, whatever, but I will not vote for colored candidate even if s/he is 2nd or 3rd generation American citizen. Will never vote for Chinese, Indian because people who can live in another country for hundreds of years and still have their children speaking mother tongues and adhere to old country’s custom are not open-minded people. As much as I like Herman Cain and Allen West, I am reluctant to vote for them, because of their people’s mentality. Will not vote for brown people either as I have experienced first hand how they serve their own kind first, the general public second.

But I have problem with the white catering to colored/minorities to gain votes. A white real estate board president where I live told one agent in my ethnic group that she needs to build her own ethnic group to compete against the Hispanic in Sacramento, not to contribute anything positively but only to “not let the white control you”. I was disgusted when I heard.

So this country is being destroyed from within, by self-serving people, from rulers down to little poor citizens.

I think your group on the right here would be better off having a smaller country in which you can live the way you prefer than being manipulated to change / cater to the left continually to keep power base that even with your changing/cater will shrink regardless. What good is there for you and your issues when you become just like those whose principles you now are at odd with completely?

vnohara on November 16, 2012 at 9:23 AM

So this country is being destroyed from within, by self-serving people, from rulers down to little poor citizens.

Exactly.

And John F. Kennedy would have been run out of town in 2012
if he said “ask not what your country can do for you, but what
you can do for your country”.

Amjean on November 16, 2012 at 9:34 AM

Romney is partially correct. The GOP is living in dream land.

“I don’t want to rebut him point by point,” Rubio said of Romney. “I would just say to you, I don’t believe that we have millions and millions of people in this country that don’t want to work. I’m not saying that’s what he said. I think we have millions of people in this country that are out of work and are dependent on the government because they can’t find a job.”

Mr. Rubio, you’re incorrect. Those of us that actually prepared for a job by getting a marketable education and actually want to work are the teeny minority. The majority look for a way to game the system. They laugh at the rest of us. Sir, you really need to wake up.

Have you not seen the number of people signing up for disability every month?

Do you really think all those people are genuinely disabled?

Study carefully who voted for Zero and how the dems harvested “urban votes.” If you do, you will not like what you find.

dogsoldier on November 16, 2012 at 10:09 AM

I’ve never loved Frank Luntz, but he does seem to have a point. Some politicans don’t have this ability naturally and every once in a while one does. Apparently it is the secret for selling Freedom. Who knew Freedom would be such a tough sell, but there it is. Instead of hiring thousands of corrupt and possible turn-coat operatives, maybe Frank has the answer.

All I know is that there is one politician out there that does have it naturally and that is Sarah Palin. That lady connects especially to haters. They go absolutley off the wall because they know she is right and they can’t stand it. Then they simmer down and realize that she does have much to say. Too bad, Mitt, that you didn’t take her offer of help. She would have reved up the ones that stayed home and America wouldn’t be sliding right into the dumper.

BetseyRoss on November 16, 2012 at 10:17 AM

Why this train of beating Romney up of late from Republicans?

THIS is the Republican’s problem. They were not wholly behind their candidate. Everyone was thinking of his/her own future standing and hedge accordingly, to serve self. I did not agree with Romney 100%, did not worship him the way the left does Obama.

No political party is without cracks and divisions but…I did not comment here as I was waiting for the media’s response.

Republican’s are rewarded for stabbing one another in the back. The Gov’s conference would have been ignored except reporters went in organized to get anti-Romney remarks!

They were really after the Gov’s mentioned as future Republican candidates. And they got Jindal, who will be rewarded with kind treatment and attention.

So I turned on Morning Joe this AM knowing what I would hear. There was irony on the selection since Ole Joe is a (or was a) Republican.

They can also tar Bill O’Reilly, Rush, and several others for hate and the humorous part is that Mitt was speaking the truth. But when you mention hate or racism, you don’t look for truth!

See the thread above for my predictable remarks.

IlikedAUH2O on November 16, 2012 at 10:19 AM

You know, the problem with Jindal’s statement and those similar, is that their words directly contradict the evidence we see with our own EYES. Everybody knows somebody who’s mooching off the system. Heck, if we’re really hard-pressed, most of us could probably name ten. I see prominent Republicans in their haste to pander, accepting the gibberish of Democrats as if it were fact. Let’s harken back to The Gipper for a minute:
“The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they’re ignorant, it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so…

We SEE the waste and abuse going on in the welfare system… and yet we’ve got prominent Republicans telling us not to believe our lying eyes as if they were Democrats.

This is about “the stuff”. It’s about the food stamps and the free housing and the free medical. You could do full-on amnesty tomorrow and you’ll still see Hispanics voting Democrat in 2016. One only needs to go back to Reagan’s 1984 amnesty and look at the election results afterward to see it.

Here’s the REAL PROBLEM in our economy… There are two sides of a capitalist economic system, buyers and sellers. And while we’ve done a pretty good job of making sure that buyers have fair access, the poor are having an extremely difficult time accessing the selling side. There are regulations, and inspections, and licensing, and confusing taxation, and all manner of expenses that make it impossible to take a simple idea and turn it into a living.

THAT, in a nutshell, is why America isn’t America anymore. People are telling us that the capitalist system is a failure, but we’re not allowing everyone to access it. A guy whose wife makes fantastic tamales can’t just go out on the sidewalk and sell them. He’ll be stopped and if he gives the cops any guff, he’ll go to jail. But his wife’s tamales might have lifted him and his family out of poverty. He might have started with one cart, worked his way up to several. Put a few more family members to work making tamales. Then a small storefront with hired employees, then maybe a small chain. But he can’t even get started because he’s breaking the law as soon as he pokes his head out the door.

If Republicans are looking for an angle… why not this? Why not improving the free market they purport to espouse? And do it for ALL the poor, not just the “demographics”, don’t make it racial. Teach a man to fish instead of feeding him for a day. Obama and his socialist Democrats in Congress nattered on about “access” to healthcare for his first two years in office, and managed NOT to actually fix the problem. But what about “access” to the capitalist free market? Fix that, and a large percentage of the Santa Claus problem goes away. Your 47% is whittled down to the hardcore, generational takers.

Murf76 on November 16, 2012 at 10:55 AM

It’s been a long day. Can someone be kind enough to translate this for me? Thanks in advance.

kim roy on November 16, 2012 at 1:29 AM

If you look up “Onanism” — as I had to — the confusion just deepens. :)

Axe on November 16, 2012 at 1:32 AM

Glad I could add a spark of motivation to you educating yourself.

The fact that you took the action to do it is a hopeful sign.

Maybe someday I’ll tell you what it was like growing up with an education from the Jesuits.

Right now, I’m not feeling too hopeful about anything myself, so thanks.

williamg on November 16, 2012 at 11:04 AM

You will never be able to win the hearts of the 47% (they have no minds) unless you give them better free sh!t then the other guy. Is that what everyone wants? The messaging should be at the dummies who sat this one out, the Hispanics who are conservatives and don’t realize it (see Susana Martinez), the Yutes who want a future as good or better then their parents, and the women who identify themselves with more then just their ladie parts.

Messaging to those groups is a lot harder then promising free crap or wanting to be Dr. Drew or their welfare caseworker to them, but it is the only way.

If I am China, I look at the current American population, and think about how easy it will be to take down the US in the coming war between the

Rockshine on November 16, 2012 at 11:04 AM

This is why we need a TRUE Conservative and not another RINO to lead the party.

PALIN 2016

ChuckTX on November 16, 2012 at 11:16 AM

This is what the GOP wants for there next leader to get the Latino vote…

http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/photo_busty_jill_kelley_at_sen_marco_Q7Gqu68rQCN8tKVc3GpPCL

PHOTO: Busty Jill Kelley at Sen. Marco Rubio fundraiser

Last Updated: 6:03 PM, November 15, 2012
Posted: 3:54 PM, November 15, 2012

As you can see in the photo here, Jill Kelley, the social-climbing military groupie at the center of the David Petraeus sex scandal, tried to cozy up to Florida Senator Marco Rubio.

Kelley, in a revealing low cut dress, is pictured posing with Rubio, who successfully manages to keep his gaze directly into the camera. Kelley’s twin sister Natalie Khawam is pictured on the right.

“Jill Kelly loves the spotlight and it was disrespectful that she came to our event without paying when people paid $1000+,” a witness told Page Six via e-mail about the March 2010 fundraiser in Florida. “Rubio had his picture taken with many people that night and nothing was remarkable about this one. Jill Kelly wasn’t even on our guest list.”
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Jill Kelley, Marco Rubio, Natalie Khawam (Kelley’s twin sister)

“[Jill and Natalie] came in quickly, asked for a photo and left,” added the witness.

The Post reported today that Kelley lost her unfettered base access after her claims that she had received threatening e-mails from Petraeus’ mistress, Paula Broadwell

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2012/11/15/pagesix/web_photos/jill_kelley–300×300.jpg

We need a TRUE Conservative to lead the party.

Palin 2016

ChuckTX on November 16, 2012 at 11:21 AM

What fence has Jindal every climbed???

trs on November 16, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Well, folks, let me give you something to think about.
I totally agree with Mitts’ statement, except he didn’t go far enough. My personal opinion is that at least 80% of Americans are on the public dole in some form or fashion!
First, though. I used to be a big fan of Jindal and some of the other Republicans that are now telling the pundits to ‘shut up’. That is exactly what we shouldn’t do right now. We need to keep shouting out about what is wrong with the country and maybe, just maybe, some of the takers out there will hear it, look in the mirror at themselve and actually feel ashamed for taking.
Now, to my statement that at least 80% are takers, just look at ALL the government programs in effect. One of my favorates to bash, even though there are many, many others, is the farm bill. I can somewhat understand its existance way back when, because farmers and ranchers were somewhat ignorant back then. But nowadays there is enough education that they should know how to run their ‘private enterprise operations’ concerning conservation, crop rotation, etc, without government help. If they don’t know by now they shouldn’t be in that business. And some of you will spout about droughs, floods, etc. Well, they are PRIVATE businesses, so they should contend with those events themselves. Or, I will concede a little, and suggest that when a disastrious event like that happens that the government help a little in some form or other just like during other disaster events. With all the current payments from the government for one thing or another, they are not private businesses, they are government businesses.
Then, you can go on to some other government programs like the DOA guaranteeing low interest loans to farmers and ranchers. They still go broke and taxpayers get the shaft. Government, from cities, counties, states, giving all kinds of tax breaks to businesses to lure them to come to their particular area.
There are so many more but seems nobody thinks about them. And with a lot of these gimmes, Republicans are just as bad as the Democrats. Government is EVIL and in some way or another makes most of us whores to the government.

boogieboy on November 16, 2012 at 1:16 PM

I’m going to say that if you mix what Mitt said with what Marco said, you’ve got the spot-on truth. Forty-seven percent want free stuff, we’ve already lost that battle for now, but they would be less apt to be so persistent in asking for it if the economy were good enough that they could find a job.

Glenn Jericho on November 16, 2012 at 2:11 AM

As the economy continues to unravel, it will be more than 47%.

Dr. ZhivBlago on November 16, 2012 at 5:29 PM

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