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		<title>By: williamg</title>
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		<dc:creator>williamg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 21:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Wouldn’t Ryan be a nice choice?

cajunpatriot on November 15, 2012 at 1:18 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, he wouldn’t. In fact, he’s a horrible choice for a Representative.

Dante on November 15, 2012 at 3:40 PM &lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;With all due respsect&lt;/strong&gt; - that is one of the dumbest comments I have ever heard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Wouldn’t Ryan be a nice choice?</p>
<p>cajunpatriot on November 15, 2012 at 1:18 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>No, he wouldn’t. In fact, he’s a horrible choice for a Representative.</p>
<p>Dante on November 15, 2012 at 3:40 PM </p></blockquote>
<p><strong>With all due respsect</strong> &#8211; that is one of the dumbest comments I have ever heard.</p>
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		<title>By: andycanuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>andycanuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 21:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Oops: Typo on Reid’s job title — fixed!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It originally read Ahssole-in-Chief?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Oops: Typo on Reid’s job title — fixed!</p></blockquote>
<p>It originally read Ahssole-in-Chief?</p>
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		<title>By: Fleuries</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fleuries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 21:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I want Paul Ryan to be Speaker of the House. He knows what a budget looks like.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want Paul Ryan to be Speaker of the House. He knows what a budget looks like.</p>
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		<title>By: Fleuries</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fleuries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 21:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Does the White House and the leadership come together on some solution to the budget that we have right now that precludes a budget being written next year?”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

She has hijacked the law here:

A &quot;solution&quot; to the budget was never agreed to, there is no budget, if there was the House would pass it, Harry Reid could write it up,  and Obama would sign it.

Obama ran the country for four years without a budget, you cannot re write history. You cannot satisfy the law that says there should be a budget by funding old spending.

NO more money for Obama, shut it down.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Does the White House and the leadership come together on some solution to the budget that we have right now that precludes a budget being written next year?”</p></blockquote>
<p>She has hijacked the law here:</p>
<p>A &#8220;solution&#8221; to the budget was never agreed to, there is no budget, if there was the House would pass it, Harry Reid could write it up,  and Obama would sign it.</p>
<p>Obama ran the country for four years without a budget, you cannot re write history. You cannot satisfy the law that says there should be a budget by funding old spending.</p>
<p>NO more money for Obama, shut it down.</p>
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		<title>By: riddick</title>
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		<dc:creator>riddick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 21:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;John Boehner can straight up refuse to pass the next Continuing Resolution. No Continuing Resolution… Nobody gets paid. Newt Gingrich was the last Speaker of the House who had the balls to do this, and while it cost him his seat, it also forced Bill Clinton to move to the center politically.

SWalker on November 15, 2012 at 12:37 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Isn&#039;t it funny (/s) that Boehner was one of the ten &quot;bright minds&quot; in GOP Congress who forced Newt out, Na d now we are stuck with this POS of a (supposed) human being as our House leader.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>John Boehner can straight up refuse to pass the next Continuing Resolution. No Continuing Resolution… Nobody gets paid. Newt Gingrich was the last Speaker of the House who had the balls to do this, and while it cost him his seat, it also forced Bill Clinton to move to the center politically.</p>
<p>SWalker on November 15, 2012 at 12:37 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it funny (/s) that Boehner was one of the ten &#8220;bright minds&#8221; in GOP Congress who forced Newt out, Na d now we are stuck with this POS of a (supposed) human being as our House leader.</p>
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		<title>By: Dante</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Wouldn’t Ryan be a nice choice?

cajunpatriot on November 15, 2012 at 1:18 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, he wouldn&#039;t. In fact, he&#039;s a horrible choice for a Representative.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Wouldn’t Ryan be a nice choice?</p>
<p>cajunpatriot on November 15, 2012 at 1:18 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>No, he wouldn&#8217;t. In fact, he&#8217;s a horrible choice for a Representative.</p>
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		<title>By: cptacek</title>
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		<dc:creator>cptacek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Wouldn’t Ryan be a nice choice?
cajunpatriot on November 15, 2012 at 1:18 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Recent history shows that the Vice Presidential loser shall henceforth be ridiculed and destroyed.  Didn&#039;t you get the memo?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Wouldn’t Ryan be a nice choice?<br />
cajunpatriot on November 15, 2012 at 1:18 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Recent history shows that the Vice Presidential loser shall henceforth be ridiculed and destroyed.  Didn&#8217;t you get the memo?</p>
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		<title>By: Old Fritz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Fritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Someone rated her (Patty Murray)the stupidest member of the US Congress. I can believe it.

slickwillie2001 on November 15, 2012 at 2:45 PM 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, there is Elizabeth Warren waiting in the wings. Fauxchahontas will surely give The Mom In Tennis Shoes a run for her money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Someone rated her (Patty Murray)the stupidest member of the US Congress. I can believe it.</p>
<p>slickwillie2001 on November 15, 2012 at 2:45 PM
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<p>Well, there is Elizabeth Warren waiting in the wings. Fauxchahontas will surely give The Mom In Tennis Shoes a run for her money.</p>
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		<title>By: freedomfirst</title>
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		<dc:creator>freedomfirst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No more continuing resolutions.
Let govt shut down.
This crap has to end.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No more continuing resolutions.<br />
Let govt shut down.<br />
This crap has to end.</p>
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		<title>By: GarandFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>GarandFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The last thing the Democrats want is a budget.  You can hide a lot of red ink when you don&#039;t have a budget.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last thing the Democrats want is a budget.  You can hide a lot of red ink when you don&#8217;t have a budget.</p>
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		<title>By: slickwillie2001</title>
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		<dc:creator>slickwillie2001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
    “I have no idea.” Senator Patty Murray-D.

Yup

Jabberwock on November 15, 2012 at 12:59 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Someone rated her the stupidest member of the US Congress. I can believe it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
    “I have no idea.” Senator Patty Murray-D.</p>
<p>Yup</p>
<p>Jabberwock on November 15, 2012 at 12:59 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Someone rated her the stupidest member of the US Congress. I can believe it.</p>
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		<title>By: williamg</title>
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		<dc:creator>williamg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;We need a new Speaker of the House.

UltimateBob on November 15, 2012 at 12:21 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wouldn’t Ryan be a nice choice?

cajunpatriot on November 15, 2012 at 1:18 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;


WINNER - Most intelligent comment of the thread!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>We need a new Speaker of the House.</p>
<p>UltimateBob on November 15, 2012 at 12:21 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Wouldn’t Ryan be a nice choice?</p>
<p>cajunpatriot on November 15, 2012 at 1:18 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>WINNER &#8211; Most intelligent comment of the thread!!</p>
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		<title>By: williamg</title>
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		<dc:creator>williamg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;williamg on November 15, 2012 at 12:40 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Dude, you’re flirtin’ with the ban hammer.

UltimateBob on November 15, 2012 at 12:42 PM &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Saul was struck by a vision of God telling him to pursue the instructions on God on his way to Damascus.  It was a powerful, ebullient, eruptive, fiery, and forceful event:

&quot;And as he journeyed, it came to pass that he drew nigh unto Damascus: and suddenly there shone round about him a light out of heaven: and he fell upon the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: but rise, and enter into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do. And the men that journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing the voice, but beholding no man. And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw nothing; and they led him by the hand, and brought him into Damascus. And he was three days without sight, and did neither eat nor drink.&quot;

After this event - Saul stopped persecuting God and became Paul, the author of many Epistles.  St. Paul helped spread the word of God.

It was a divine revelation - and it was dramatic and profound.  If you are against this kind of conversion - startling though it may be - you are against the natural processes of The Divine intervening in human affairs.  I am not.

I believe something like this &lt;strong&gt;NEEDS TO HAPPEN&lt;/strong&gt; to Boehner - and I&#039;m hoping it happens soon!  Boehner needs to spend time at Street Called Straight!:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_Paul_the_Apostle]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>williamg on November 15, 2012 at 12:40 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Dude, you’re flirtin’ with the ban hammer.</p>
<p>UltimateBob on November 15, 2012 at 12:42 PM </p></blockquote>
<p>Saul was struck by a vision of God telling him to pursue the instructions on God on his way to Damascus.  It was a powerful, ebullient, eruptive, fiery, and forceful event:</p>
<p>&#8220;And as he journeyed, it came to pass that he drew nigh unto Damascus: and suddenly there shone round about him a light out of heaven: and he fell upon the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: but rise, and enter into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do. And the men that journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing the voice, but beholding no man. And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw nothing; and they led him by the hand, and brought him into Damascus. And he was three days without sight, and did neither eat nor drink.&#8221;</p>
<p>After this event &#8211; Saul stopped persecuting God and became Paul, the author of many Epistles.  St. Paul helped spread the word of God.</p>
<p>It was a divine revelation &#8211; and it was dramatic and profound.  If you are against this kind of conversion &#8211; startling though it may be &#8211; you are against the natural processes of The Divine intervening in human affairs.  I am not.</p>
<p>I believe something like this <strong>NEEDS TO HAPPEN</strong> to Boehner &#8211; and I&#8217;m hoping it happens soon!  Boehner needs to spend time at Street Called Straight!:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_Paul_the_Apostle" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_Paul_the_Apostle</a></p>
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		<title>By: jetch</title>
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		<dc:creator>jetch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[if the republicans in the house block obama and reid, they&#039;ll just use it against us in the next election, and they WILL win.

boehner needs to go in front of the camera and say he&#039;ll muster the votes to pass anything obama wants. for the next four years, just let obama get his way, right now, it&#039;s what the majority of people want.  if he does this, dems will lose elections for the next 20 years because the economy will be in shambles, unemployment will skyrocket and the debt will require that &lt;em&gt;all&lt;/em&gt; citizen pay more.

it&#039;s a bitter pill, but the way things are going it may be our only hope.  more people voted for obama than romney, we&#039;re not going to convince them that responsibility is the right way as long as they&#039;re happy with the status quo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if the republicans in the house block obama and reid, they&#8217;ll just use it against us in the next election, and they WILL win.</p>
<p>boehner needs to go in front of the camera and say he&#8217;ll muster the votes to pass anything obama wants. for the next four years, just let obama get his way, right now, it&#8217;s what the majority of people want.  if he does this, dems will lose elections for the next 20 years because the economy will be in shambles, unemployment will skyrocket and the debt will require that <em>all</em> citizen pay more.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s a bitter pill, but the way things are going it may be our only hope.  more people voted for obama than romney, we&#8217;re not going to convince them that responsibility is the right way as long as they&#8217;re happy with the status quo.</p>
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		<title>By: stukinIL4now</title>
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		<dc:creator>stukinIL4now</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It makes sense since Obamuh has declared today &quot;America Recycles Day&quot; so of course the Senate will recycle all their old moldy ideas that weren&#039;t fresh the first time. But Obamuh is 8 days late in his declaration bcuz we started recycling him and his smelly old used up prezuhduncy on Nov 7.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes sense since Obamuh has declared today &#8220;America Recycles Day&#8221; so of course the Senate will recycle all their old moldy ideas that weren&#8217;t fresh the first time. But Obamuh is 8 days late in his declaration bcuz we started recycling him and his smelly old used up prezuhduncy on Nov 7.</p>
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		<title>By: UltimateBob</title>
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		<dc:creator>UltimateBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m not encouraged by what I read on this and other blogs. If Boehner agrees to the (actually very small) tax increase Obama says he wants, conservatives are going to scream for his head and the Tea Parties are going to start calling for primary opponenets against every House Republican who votes for it. This is what Obama wants!

Why would we tear our party apart over a tiny tax increase on a handful of rich people, most of whom voted for Obama and live in Blue cities and states? Write the damn bill so it actually LOWERS the rate on small business income, if that’s what you really care about. Raise the top rate on salary and investment income to 40%. The eliminate the deduction for state and local taxes, pass a surtax on incomes over $10 million to hit the Hollywood stars and pro athletes, eliminate the trick accounting rules that allow movie studios to avoid taxes on billion-dollar movies, etc.

Two can play this game. But will we?

rockmom on November 15, 2012 at 12:43 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Excellent points. You are exactly right that everything that team 0bama does is purely political, and they want nothing more than for the GOP to implode on itself.

One thing that maybe the GOP &lt;strong&gt;can &lt;/strong&gt;do (but as you asked, will they?) is to just vote &quot;present&quot; on all tax increase legislation. That way, they can avoid the ire of Conservatives and TEA Party groups, since they won&#039;t have voted &quot;&lt;em&gt;for&lt;/em&gt;&quot; them.  Kind of a high stakes game of chicken.

Nonetheless, I am certain that Pelosi, the Dems, and the media (redundant, I know) will find some way to blame the GOP when the Baby Ruth Bars hit the fan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m not encouraged by what I read on this and other blogs. If Boehner agrees to the (actually very small) tax increase Obama says he wants, conservatives are going to scream for his head and the Tea Parties are going to start calling for primary opponenets against every House Republican who votes for it. This is what Obama wants!</p>
<p>Why would we tear our party apart over a tiny tax increase on a handful of rich people, most of whom voted for Obama and live in Blue cities and states? Write the damn bill so it actually LOWERS the rate on small business income, if that’s what you really care about. Raise the top rate on salary and investment income to 40%. The eliminate the deduction for state and local taxes, pass a surtax on incomes over $10 million to hit the Hollywood stars and pro athletes, eliminate the trick accounting rules that allow movie studios to avoid taxes on billion-dollar movies, etc.</p>
<p>Two can play this game. But will we?</p>
<p>rockmom on November 15, 2012 at 12:43 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Excellent points. You are exactly right that everything that team 0bama does is purely political, and they want nothing more than for the GOP to implode on itself.</p>
<p>One thing that maybe the GOP <strong>can </strong>do (but as you asked, will they?) is to just vote &#8220;present&#8221; on all tax increase legislation. That way, they can avoid the ire of Conservatives and TEA Party groups, since they won&#8217;t have voted &#8220;<em>for</em>&#8221; them.  Kind of a high stakes game of chicken.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, I am certain that Pelosi, the Dems, and the media (redundant, I know) will find some way to blame the GOP when the Baby Ruth Bars hit the fan.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Russo III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Russo III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;This is NOT about economic policy. It is NOT about redistribution. It is NOT about “fairness.”

It is about politics. EVERYTHING Barack Obama has done and will do is about politics.

rockmom on November 15, 2012 at 12:48 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Um, the first part satisfies the second part.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This is NOT about economic policy. It is NOT about redistribution. It is NOT about “fairness.”</p>
<p>It is about politics. EVERYTHING Barack Obama has done and will do is about politics.</p>
<p>rockmom on November 15, 2012 at 12:48 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Um, the first part satisfies the second part.</p>
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		<title>By: itsspideyman</title>
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		<dc:creator>itsspideyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a laugh.  The Democrat party is simply an appetite.  There is no seriousness on their side when it comes to real cuts.  I&#039;ve been arguing that if they&#039;re serious, then defund Big Bird, a crony capitalist that makes money on the backs of the taxpayers.  They agrue back that that&#039;s only .00001 of the budget.  I counter back with they&#039;re constant refrain to cut Defense with that taking it to zero will still leave an 800 billion dollar deficit.

  The Dems will pave the way for the return of capitalism through their desperate need to feed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a laugh.  The Democrat party is simply an appetite.  There is no seriousness on their side when it comes to real cuts.  I&#8217;ve been arguing that if they&#8217;re serious, then defund Big Bird, a crony capitalist that makes money on the backs of the taxpayers.  They agrue back that that&#8217;s only .00001 of the budget.  I counter back with they&#8217;re constant refrain to cut Defense with that taking it to zero will still leave an 800 billion dollar deficit.</p>
<p>  The Dems will pave the way for the return of capitalism through their desperate need to feed.</p>
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		<title>By: ardenenoch</title>
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		<dc:creator>ardenenoch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the GOP House leadership had any brains or balls, they&#039;d come out and say that in spite of the Democrats controlling all three branches of government during Obama&#039;s first two years, and two out of three branches during his 2nd two years, the media was able to convince a majority of voters that George W. Bush and Republican obstructionism are the two main culprits for our economic woes. And if Obama and Reid don&#039;t want to get serious about addressing these problems, we&#039;ll just tell all GOP House members to abstain on any votes that are taken, and let the Democrats pass whatever they want, and let them deal with the fall out. 

For all these years, the GOP has allowed themselves to be whipped into submission by the media. This is a perfect opportunity for them to cry Uncle and say &quot;okay, you win, do whatever you want, and you can take the blame for it&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the GOP House leadership had any brains or balls, they&#8217;d come out and say that in spite of the Democrats controlling all three branches of government during Obama&#8217;s first two years, and two out of three branches during his 2nd two years, the media was able to convince a majority of voters that George W. Bush and Republican obstructionism are the two main culprits for our economic woes. And if Obama and Reid don&#8217;t want to get serious about addressing these problems, we&#8217;ll just tell all GOP House members to abstain on any votes that are taken, and let the Democrats pass whatever they want, and let them deal with the fall out. </p>
<p>For all these years, the GOP has allowed themselves to be whipped into submission by the media. This is a perfect opportunity for them to cry Uncle and say &#8220;okay, you win, do whatever you want, and you can take the blame for it&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: matthew8787</title>
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		<dc:creator>matthew8787</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Republican leadership in both houses of Congress should hold a press conference and simply say, “We heard the American people in this last election and we’re going to let you have what you asked for.”

Then, stand back and let Harry, Nancy and Obama own it.

BacaDog on November 15, 2012 at 12:30 PM &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I agree, but there are some problems:

1. their constituents voted for them to pursue liberty and economic sanity

2. they take an oath of office to uphold the constitution of the united states; rolling over to the RATS isn&#039;t very faithful to that oath.

That said, I am in favor of the GOP letting Obama and the RATS own anything to which reasonable people will hold them accountable.

We are coming up on Obama&#039;s six-year itch in 2014, so the political dynamics should heavily favor the GOP.

However, we cannot survive as a party that can only win midterm elections.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Republican leadership in both houses of Congress should hold a press conference and simply say, “We heard the American people in this last election and we’re going to let you have what you asked for.”</p>
<p>Then, stand back and let Harry, Nancy and Obama own it.</p>
<p>BacaDog on November 15, 2012 at 12:30 PM </p></blockquote>
<p>I agree, but there are some problems:</p>
<p>1. their constituents voted for them to pursue liberty and economic sanity</p>
<p>2. they take an oath of office to uphold the constitution of the united states; rolling over to the RATS isn&#8217;t very faithful to that oath.</p>
<p>That said, I am in favor of the GOP letting Obama and the RATS own anything to which reasonable people will hold them accountable.</p>
<p>We are coming up on Obama&#8217;s six-year itch in 2014, so the political dynamics should heavily favor the GOP.</p>
<p>However, we cannot survive as a party that can only win midterm elections.</p>
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		<title>By: PatriotGal2257</title>
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		<dc:creator>PatriotGal2257</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;    I still don’t understand the end game for the Dems.

    rik on November 15, 2012 at 12:25 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is what the endgame is for the Dems. Here is by far the most perceptive comment I&#039;ve ever read from this Pajamas Media article &lt;a href=&quot;http://pjmedia.com/blog/can-the-moral-narrative-of-obamacare-be-defeated/2/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Can the Moral Narrative of Obamacare be Defeated? &lt;/a&gt;


&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;There is nothing “noble” about the charade being played out on the current American landscape.

Radicalizing this nation into an extremist and totalitarian state via soothing words and under the cover of “protections” for the “people” is belied by the nasty screaming, epithets, false accusations of racism, and all the other “ism’s”.

It is belied by the fakery needed to infuse ambush legislation into every nook and cranny of our lives.

It is belied by the cramdown nature of midnight stealth deals and the use of “reconciliation” to deprive the people of a voice in their self-governing of this land of ours.

Radical leftism has grown fangs and claws and it is spitting out venom at record levels, while screeching in the night at rock concert decibels.

&lt;strong&gt;“Health care” is neither about health, nor about care.&lt;/strong&gt; The radical leftist doesn’t give a damn about whether you live or die. This is about owning a permanent vote. If they give you “health care,&quot; they can take it away. They own your health.

They also want to own your energy. And your auto, transportation, … your very mobility.

They want to own your finances and banking.

They want to own your 401k and yo’ daddy’s 401k and yo’ granddaddy’s 401k.

They want to own Puerto Rico.

They want to own Fannie and Freddie.

They want to own the media, entertainment and academia.

They want to own the insurance industry.

They want to own the medical device industry.

They want to own research and science.

They want to own space exploration.

They want to own the pharmaceutical industry.

They want to own the unions.

They want to own our borders, so that a permanent underclass will be protected and infused into their scheme.

This is NOT about one sixth of the economy, this is about making every citizen, every entrepreneur, every small business owner, every Joe the Plumber or Joe Sixpack, every salt of the earth patriot … into a whimpering pool of melting butter at the threat of being “cut off, shut off or shunned off” the reservation.

This is not about “one” thing, this is about everything. It’s a grab for the whole enchilada. The internal debate raging inside the extremist walls is whether to keep slow boiling the frog or seize the country by the throat now that they were able to sneak into all three Houses.

By any means necessary. Reconciliation is just a warm and fuzzy term for shoving their extremist notions down your throat and up your most available other orifice.

Some argued to keep this going slowly. The “f—ing retards” got a little too anxious and power mad … they want to strangle any complaint, put it in a chokehold and declare all matters “settled.&quot;

The Tea Party movement is simply the natural reaction, instinctive, reflexive…”get your hands off my throat and out of my pocket.&quot; It doesn’t seem to have any “form or direction” to the leftist extremist class, because it isn’t about “politics.&quot; It’s about survival.

-- cfbleachers, March 4, 2010&lt;/em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>    I still don’t understand the end game for the Dems.</p>
<p>    rik on November 15, 2012 at 12:25 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>This is what the endgame is for the Dems. Here is by far the most perceptive comment I&#8217;ve ever read from this Pajamas Media article <a href="http://pjmedia.com/blog/can-the-moral-narrative-of-obamacare-be-defeated/2/" rel="nofollow"> Can the Moral Narrative of Obamacare be Defeated? </a></p>
<blockquote><p><em>There is nothing “noble” about the charade being played out on the current American landscape.</p>
<p>Radicalizing this nation into an extremist and totalitarian state via soothing words and under the cover of “protections” for the “people” is belied by the nasty screaming, epithets, false accusations of racism, and all the other “ism’s”.</p>
<p>It is belied by the fakery needed to infuse ambush legislation into every nook and cranny of our lives.</p>
<p>It is belied by the cramdown nature of midnight stealth deals and the use of “reconciliation” to deprive the people of a voice in their self-governing of this land of ours.</p>
<p>Radical leftism has grown fangs and claws and it is spitting out venom at record levels, while screeching in the night at rock concert decibels.</p>
<p><strong>“Health care” is neither about health, nor about care.</strong> The radical leftist doesn’t give a damn about whether you live or die. This is about owning a permanent vote. If they give you “health care,&#8221; they can take it away. They own your health.</p>
<p>They also want to own your energy. And your auto, transportation, … your very mobility.</p>
<p>They want to own your finances and banking.</p>
<p>They want to own your 401k and yo’ daddy’s 401k and yo’ granddaddy’s 401k.</p>
<p>They want to own Puerto Rico.</p>
<p>They want to own Fannie and Freddie.</p>
<p>They want to own the media, entertainment and academia.</p>
<p>They want to own the insurance industry.</p>
<p>They want to own the medical device industry.</p>
<p>They want to own research and science.</p>
<p>They want to own space exploration.</p>
<p>They want to own the pharmaceutical industry.</p>
<p>They want to own the unions.</p>
<p>They want to own our borders, so that a permanent underclass will be protected and infused into their scheme.</p>
<p>This is NOT about one sixth of the economy, this is about making every citizen, every entrepreneur, every small business owner, every Joe the Plumber or Joe Sixpack, every salt of the earth patriot … into a whimpering pool of melting butter at the threat of being “cut off, shut off or shunned off” the reservation.</p>
<p>This is not about “one” thing, this is about everything. It’s a grab for the whole enchilada. The internal debate raging inside the extremist walls is whether to keep slow boiling the frog or seize the country by the throat now that they were able to sneak into all three Houses.</p>
<p>By any means necessary. Reconciliation is just a warm and fuzzy term for shoving their extremist notions down your throat and up your most available other orifice.</p>
<p>Some argued to keep this going slowly. The “f—ing retards” got a little too anxious and power mad … they want to strangle any complaint, put it in a chokehold and declare all matters “settled.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Tea Party movement is simply the natural reaction, instinctive, reflexive…”get your hands off my throat and out of my pocket.&#8221; It doesn’t seem to have any “form or direction” to the leftist extremist class, because it isn’t about “politics.&#8221; It’s about survival.</p>
<p>&#8211; cfbleachers, March 4, 2010</em><br />
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		<title>By: matthew8787</title>
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		<dc:creator>matthew8787</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;When the government takes more of people’s money, that’s money that isn’t being spent in the private sector — and since the private sector unfailing spends money more productively than the federal government, more taxes come at the opportunity cost of greater economic growth, which in turn is what creates jobs, wealth, and innovation. Government does not bring about these things.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Democrats do not believe this, and the American people do not understand this.

We have Democratic leaders arguing that food stamps are an economic stimulus.

Democrats actually believe that government can produce wealth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>When the government takes more of people’s money, that’s money that isn’t being spent in the private sector — and since the private sector unfailing spends money more productively than the federal government, more taxes come at the opportunity cost of greater economic growth, which in turn is what creates jobs, wealth, and innovation. Government does not bring about these things.</p></blockquote>
<p>Democrats do not believe this, and the American people do not understand this.</p>
<p>We have Democratic leaders arguing that food stamps are an economic stimulus.</p>
<p>Democrats actually believe that government can produce wealth.</p>
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		<title>By: cajunpatriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>cajunpatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;  We need a new Speaker of the House.

    UltimateBob on November 15, 2012 at 12:21 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wouldn&#039;t Ryan be a nice choice?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>  We need a new Speaker of the House.</p>
<p>    UltimateBob on November 15, 2012 at 12:21 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t Ryan be a nice choice?</p>
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		<title>By: justltl</title>
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		<dc:creator>justltl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is why you see a moron like Mayor Bloomberg banning big soft drinks. 
Think about it- does that sort of thing accomplish anything positive for anyone whatsoever?
Of course not.
It lets him know that he&#039;s in control.
And if a person like him finally gets into a position of total control, well that&#039;s when the genocide begins.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why you see a moron like Mayor Bloomberg banning big soft drinks.<br />
Think about it- does that sort of thing accomplish anything positive for anyone whatsoever?<br />
Of course not.<br />
It lets him know that he&#8217;s in control.<br />
And if a person like him finally gets into a position of total control, well that&#8217;s when the genocide begins.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Fritz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Fritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The only way we’ll ever settle the argument over which philosiphy is better is to let them have every freakin thing they want for the next few years. Taxes, give away programs, no spending reductions, carbon taxes…….the whole nine-yards.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That is so stupid. Cutting your nose off to spite your face is no solution. All of those new taxes will be permanantly imbedded in the budget for years to come. And once you create new forms of taxation such as a VAT or a carbon tax, they never die and go away.

We fight for every inch of ground and hold out for the mid term elections in 2014. If that doesn&#039;t work then we hold out for the next presidential election in 2016. Four years is not that long in the grand scheme of things. We wait them out. Obama can&#039;t run for re-election and the Dims will be left with either Hillary or Uncle Joe Biden the Clown as their standard bearer. I&#039;ll take that fight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The only way we’ll ever settle the argument over which philosiphy is better is to let them have every freakin thing they want for the next few years. Taxes, give away programs, no spending reductions, carbon taxes…….the whole nine-yards.</p>
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<p>That is so stupid. Cutting your nose off to spite your face is no solution. All of those new taxes will be permanantly imbedded in the budget for years to come. And once you create new forms of taxation such as a VAT or a carbon tax, they never die and go away.</p>
<p>We fight for every inch of ground and hold out for the mid term elections in 2014. If that doesn&#8217;t work then we hold out for the next presidential election in 2016. Four years is not that long in the grand scheme of things. We wait them out. Obama can&#8217;t run for re-election and the Dims will be left with either Hillary or Uncle Joe Biden the Clown as their standard bearer. I&#8217;ll take that fight.</p>
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