Harry Reid: Regulations have nothing to do with killing jobs

posted at 6:51 pm on November 15, 2012 by Mary Katharine Ham

Sen. Harry Reid, in a floor speech Tuesday:

Republicans “have yet to produce a single shred of evidence that the regulations they hate so much do the broad economic harms they claim. That’s because there is none,” said Reid, the Senate majority leader from Nevada.

In a Senate speech, Reid said the Bureau of Labor Statistics has concluded “only a tiny fraction of layoffs have anything at all to do with tighter regulation.”

“Last year, only three-tenths of 1 percent of people who lost their jobs were let go principally because of government regulation or intervention,” Reid said. “On the other hand, a quarter of them were laid off because of lack of business.

The Heritage Foundation’s James Gattuso explains the statistic:

The numbers come from the Labor Department’s Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), which, in cooperation from state authorities, tracks mass layoffs, defined as layoffs of 50 or more workers for 31 days or more. In each case in which such a “mass layoff” is identified, state authorities interview the employers involved, asking them (among other things) the reason for the layoffs. For the third quarter, BLS reported that 0.3 percent of respondents listed “governmental regulations/intervention” as the reason…

It appears to be a simple process, but it’s actually quite tricky. The first problem is that economic hardship does not come with labels. Employers know if their costs are rising but not necessarily whether it is due to new burdens imposed on their suppliers or other factors. They may know that they didn’t get the capital they needed but not if it was because investors had better opportunities or because of government financial rules. They will know if demand has slumped, but it’s not so clear whether it was because their product is valued less by the marketplace or because government rules choked off demand from customers. The actual causes are likely to be mixed.

But even if government interviewers could identify with precision the reasons for mass layoffs, that would tell us little about why unemployment is so high. Mass layoffs are only part of the job loss picture—job losses don’t always come 50 or more at a time. Most small businesses don’t even have 50 employees.

But where Reid and others really miss the mark, however, is in assuming that job losses are the problem, rather than a lack of job creation. As argued by my colleague James Sherk, layoffs spiked early in the recession but then they fell sharply. Since late 2009, gross job losses in the economy have actually been below their pre-recession levels. In fact, in 2010 there were fewer gross job losses than any time since the government began tracking these figures in 1992. Unemployment remains high because the economy has not been creating jobs. Last September, for instance, employers hired only 4.2 million new workers—a million fewer monthly new hires than before the recession.

Let’s lay aside the fact that it is job creation that’s most of our problem and that all the layoffs we’ve been hearing about lately seem to be Obamacare regulation-related.

Sen. Harry Reid, meet the people you think don’t exist. A boutique, local, organic, artisan maker of cured meats is closing in Denver thanks to a USDA regulation that would require him to taint his all-natural, Old World methods for making his product in order to comply:

“In August, the USDA imposed additional requirements on Il Mondo Vecchio’s production methods. After two months of sharing information and collaboration back and forth between Il Mondo Vecchio and the USDA as well as various attempts to modify the production methods,” the owners announced, “Il Mondo Vecchio has determined that the impact of the regulatory requirements on dry cured sausage products was detrimental to the quality of the product and therefore, Mark and Gennaro are forced to close the[ir] doors.”

This conflict between modern regulations and traditional methods is something DeNittis thought for a time he could navigate.

“We adhere to Old World techniques of natural process while following New World regulations,” Il Mondo Vecchio’s website states.

When it comes to Old World methods, I think it would be hard to find a better example of a traditional, conscientious, sustainable, and local producer than Il Mondo Vecchio.

The product has, of course, never sickened anyone or faced any complaint, and Denver foodies will count it a loss to their community. This is, literally, the war on bacon.

And, one man’s dream, his livelihood, his community, and his employees are poorer for it. But by all means, keep piling them on, Harry.

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Cowboy poetry does save and create jobs though.

gsherin on November 15, 2012 at 6:53 PM

I`m a few stories of this nature from wandering the streets aimlessly and saying “What the HELL is going on??!!”

ThePrez on November 15, 2012 at 6:54 PM

And the Khmer Rouge policies never caused anyone any harm.

There’s stupid, then there’s Reid stupid.

Bishop on November 15, 2012 at 6:55 PM

Is Stephanie Cutter the daughter of Harry Reid?

portlandon on November 15, 2012 at 6:55 PM

Harry Reid: Regulations have nothing to do with killing jobs

And, Obamacare won’t result in a lot of layoffs at Stryker or full-time restaurant employees becoming part-time employees either. Right, FU Reid?

Resist We Much on November 15, 2012 at 6:55 PM

Hey, FU Reid, why did you, Maerose Prizzi and Obama, when you were assuring Americans that “if you like your doctor, you can keep him. if you like your plan, you can keep it,” fail to say “if you like your full-time job, you can keep it if we pass Obamacare”?

Resist We Much on November 15, 2012 at 7:03 PM

What does one have to do with another?!

lester on November 15, 2012 at 5:09 PM

rogerb on November 15, 2012 at 7:03 PM

Oh jeez… Harry Reid might just be the only man in Washington who is more clueless, stupid and delusional than Joe Biden.

jasetaro on November 15, 2012 at 7:03 PM

Slime ball extraordinaire! He just looks so sleezy and creepy.

Where is the oppo research on this pedo, anyway?

Key West Reader on November 15, 2012 at 7:03 PM

Harry Reid: Regulations have nothing to do with killing jobs

Because they often strangle them in the womb, Harry. You used to know that.

Ask your buddy Barack. Even he found out there weren’t very many “shovel-ready” jobs because they needed to satisfy….local, state, and federal environmental on other sundry regulations, including one that required union-scale “prevailing” wages no matter where the job was done.

JeffWeimer on November 15, 2012 at 7:04 PM

That reedy-voiced bag of puss is making it very difficult for me to remain a free man.

rayra on November 15, 2012 at 7:05 PM

The War On Meat Candy

awww — wait a tic — you fooled me MKH!

FlatFoot on November 15, 2012 at 7:07 PM


Harry Reid: Regulations have nothing to do with killing jobs

Tell that to coal miners.

Happy Nomad on November 15, 2012 at 7:09 PM

Moron. Of course, he’s probably never earned an honest day’s living in his life.

COgirl on November 15, 2012 at 7:09 PM

Is Stephanie Cutter the daughter of Harry Reid?

Yes, she burst forth from Reid’s head fully grown like Athena. She is the goddess of vapid talking points.

rw on November 15, 2012 at 7:11 PM

Somewhere out there in the vast expanse of the Nevada desert amongst the dirt and the rocks, the cacti, and the creepy-crawly creatures that squirm across the earth in the night — a sad Cowboy poet rhymes a woeful song — while he pokes a slithering Harry Reid with a stick.

FlatFoot on November 15, 2012 at 7:11 PM

When the most senior Democrats in the country believe this, our country is in peril.

WordsMatter on November 15, 2012 at 7:11 PM

Reid’s statements have nothing to do with reality.

Bigfoot on November 15, 2012 at 7:12 PM

I liked Harry better as a boxer. He always received his due.

Windsweeping on November 15, 2012 at 7:13 PM

Of course, he’s probably never earned an honest day’s living in his life.

COgirl on November 15, 2012 at 7:09 PM

You don’t have to when on one day you buy worthless land in the Nevada desert on the cheap and then on the next push through federal legislation that makes it key property for federal projects. Harry Reid should be in jail.

Happy Nomad on November 15, 2012 at 7:15 PM

“The woods are lovely, dark, and deep, but I have promises to keep. And miles to go before I sleep, and miles to go before I sleep. Remember. Miles to go before I sleep. “

AubieJon on November 15, 2012 at 7:15 PM

Ok, then let’s introduce a bill to heavily regulate biofuels.

The Count on November 15, 2012 at 7:16 PM

What a mindless jerk . . . and his underlings voted him as their leader. Harry isn’t the only problem in the Democrat senate.

rplat on November 15, 2012 at 7:16 PM

Harry Reid: Having sex has nothing to do with having babies.

petefrt on November 15, 2012 at 7:17 PM

rayra on November 15, 2012 at 7:05 PM

Remain calm, carry on.

/ I know that’s impossible for you but… neener

Key West Reader on November 15, 2012 at 7:17 PM

Does he speak everyday? Could you imagine having to listen to his BS everyday as part of your job?

ctmom on November 15, 2012 at 7:20 PM

Hey Harry how about the coal industry, the Key Stone pipe line, 1.5 million acres taken out for oil permits, argoF yourself.

Drill and Fill on November 15, 2012 at 7:22 PM

Okay, Harry. We get it…you’re lonely.

DeathtotheSwiss on November 15, 2012 at 7:23 PM

I’m tired of that picture of Reid. Can’t Hot Air use a picture of some horrible deep water sea creature to stand for Reid? It’d be more pleasant.

(No offense intended towards said creature.)

Baerwulf on November 15, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Reid’s statements have nothing to do with reality.

Bigfoot on November 15, 2012 at 7:12 PM

But everything to do with senility.

Aviator on November 15, 2012 at 7:31 PM

He is made of the same sausage mix Obama is made of: Pinocchio, Machiavelli, Orwell, Goebbels and Muenchhausen.

May the devil strike the Ds and the Rs.

Schadenfreude on November 15, 2012 at 7:32 PM

D/Rs may you all go to Hades.

Schadenfreude on November 15, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Only a true moron can believe that. This guy is such a pathetic liar. You will never convince me he won the last election, don’t try. We are a country of close to 350 million and this dope along with pelosi, odumbo and biden are the best we can do!

rjoco1 on November 15, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Okay, Harry. We get it…you’re lonely.

DeathtotheSwiss on November 15, 2012 at 7:23 PM

Just imagine how lonely he’ll be after the government starts regulating all of those 1-900-I-Sound-Like-A-Little-Boy-Talk-Dirty-To-Me phone-sex companies. All of those old queens will lose their jobs.

Resist We Much on November 15, 2012 at 7:34 PM

ot:
Fox is breaking that at least 4x deaths have occurred in Midland, TX when a train or tractor trailer collided with a trailer carrying a bunch of veterans and their wives in a parade.

ted c on November 15, 2012 at 7:34 PM

Biggest scrot dirt bag I’ve ever seen. If he’s breathing, he’s lying.

Sasha List on November 15, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Harry Reid has the brains of my left knut – that one being ten percent dumber than the right.

Furthermore, Harry Reid should stay away from knuts and children in general

Slade73 on November 15, 2012 at 7:35 PM

The creche awaits him soon. It’s gon’ be very hot there.

Schadenfreude on November 15, 2012 at 7:38 PM

All sweetness and light comes from the Progressive leaders in our grand and glorious government.

Capitalism and “prrrrrrrrrofit” are evil and bring about the worst in people. And it must be exterminated.

In America 2012…..this is logic.

Like Mammy said.

NO GOD, NO COMMON SENSE.

PappyD61 on November 15, 2012 at 7:40 PM

I’m tired of that picture of Reid. Can’t Hot Air use a picture of some horrible deep water sea creature to stand for Reid? It’d be more pleasant.

(No offense intended towards said creature.)

Baerwulf on November 15, 2012 at 7:27 PM

I dunno. I like the way they use Cthulhu.

Axe on November 15, 2012 at 7:40 PM

China just called…they agree with Harry.

teejk on November 15, 2012 at 7:44 PM

I had a family friend that I’ve known for 25 years and he’s a State Senator here in our state. He ran as a Democrat, but he masked his Progressive world view.

He tried to convince me to become his protege and would have supported me had I wanted to replace him when he was term-limited out. But I wouldn’t switch parties.

Can you imagine? Pappy in the State Senate. Almost happened.

Of course, he confided to me that his real goal was to make everything a “utility” and to remove profit from the equation to make it “fair”. He sat at our table and worked on me (see I hid my true partisanship too). :-)

It was a great conversation, and helped illuminate what the goals of the Progressives really are.

PappyD61 on November 15, 2012 at 7:46 PM

The thought that keeps hope alive is that even Harry Reid…

… cannot out run the hands of time.

Seven Percent Solution on November 15, 2012 at 7:46 PM

I’m 22% more bacteria-resistant than Reid, and a tiny fraction better adapted to darkness — and even I don’t want to go looking for his calculator. He can just do without it until he needs it again, then go get it himself.

Axe on November 15, 2012 at 7:47 PM

He seems to not understand or to not care about things like opportunity costs and lost productivity. I work for a small business and we have recently crossed certain size thresholds that dramatically increased our reporting requirements and the oversight we now live under. So our productivity has dropped because of all the additional time we have to commit to compliance. All that time spent is not dedicated to growing our business which would create more jobs and provide more services to the community.

Ironwood297 on November 15, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Republicans “have yet to produce a single shred of evidence that the regulations they hate so much do the broad economic harms they claim. That’s because there is none,” said Reid, the Senate majority leader from Nevada.

A Look Ahead to EPA Regulations for 2013
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Files.View&FileStore_id=b4e25337-d765-46cf-9e27-b9ca21ddf148

EPA anti-energy regulations killing jobs
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/23/epa-anti-energy-regulations-killing-jobs/

Economic Study Shows EPA Regulations Increase Prices, Kill Jobs
http://www.americaspower.org/sites/default/files/NERA_CATR_MACT_29.pdf

Regulation And Government “Science” Cost Us More Than Dollars
http://www.openmarket.org/2012/08/22/regulation-and-government-science-cost-us-more-than-dollars/

We all experience the costs of regulations, but they are usually hidden in the price of the products we buy. Unfortunately, since these are essentially hidden taxes, regulators are not particularly accountable.

MAPI Executive Summary of Regulations Impact Report
http://www.mapi.net/blog/2012/08/mapi-executive-summary-regulations-impact-report

NERA’s analysis notes that while federal regulations analyzed in isolation may have a small economic and financial impact, when they are analyzed collectively—or “layered” on top of another in practice—this interaction creates additional distortions that lead to higher costs, both for manufacturers and the overall economy.

Ten Thousand Commandments
An Annual Snapshot of the Federal Regulatory State
http://cei.org/sites/default/files/Wayne%20Crews%20-%2010,000%20Commandments%202012_0.pdf

redguy on November 15, 2012 at 8:08 PM

…Harry is really TO OLD too be smoking crack!

KOOLAID2 on November 15, 2012 at 8:13 PM

Follow the money…..

BallisticBob on November 15, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Harry Reid is one of the most despicable, partisan, people ever to achieve public office. The people of NV ought to be proud of themselves. His continued partisan and ignorant statements emphasize the lowlife worm that he really is…….. What a true moron.

ultracon on November 15, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Republicans “have yet to produce a single shred of evidence that the regulations they hate so much do the broad economic harms they claim. That’s because there is none,” said Reid, the Senate majority leader from Nevada.

OK Nevada and other naysayers, Sharon Angle was worse than this? Really? Could anything Sharon Angle have done in the Senate been as damaging as this senile old fool who is ru[i]nning the place? Thank-you to all the stupid people in Nevada for re-electing this disaster, to the press who spent their time following every utterance of Angle looking for a gaffe while ignoring the drooling old fool’s mutterings, and to the people across the US who kept yelling about how bad Angle was.

I am really approaching the point of thinking that my fellow citizens are about as dull as pencil erasers and deserving as much respect.

AZfederalist on November 15, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Republicans “have yet to produce a single shred of evidence that the regulations they hate so much do the broad economic harms they claim. That’s because there is none,” said Reid….

“Last year, only three-tenths of 1 percent of people who lost their jobs were let go principally because of government regulation or intervention,” Reid said. “On the other hand, a quarter of them were laid off because of lack of business.

In other words:

“I’m an idiot with my right pinky finger on my nose, and my left thumb up my butt.”

Ugly on November 15, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Regulations have nothing to do with killing jobs

Tell that to the gulf oil workers and coal miners, you senile old fool!

GarandFan on November 15, 2012 at 8:55 PM

The willingness to unabashedly distort data and/or repeat the lies and distortions of others has typified the Democrats since at least 2006.

Count to 10 on November 15, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Tell that to the 13 people that go laid off at my job today due to Dodd-Frank regulations. Just today.

JustTruth101 on November 15, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Buisnesses only have to deal with what… only 68 new regulations A DAY? Why would that have any affect on jobs???

TEXASLEGAL on November 15, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Little Harry is so much out of it – he needs to go and will retire soon.

Amazingoly on November 15, 2012 at 9:18 PM

I dunno. I like the way they use Cthulhu.

Axe on November 15, 2012 at 7:40 PM

Hey, wait a second! I am NOT associated in any way, shape, or form with the abominable Harry Reid!

cthulhu on November 15, 2012 at 9:19 PM

Hey, wait a second! I am NOT associated in any way, shape, or form with the abominable Harry Reid!

cthulhu on November 15, 2012 at 9:19 PM

lol — My apologies, O great dead and dreaming.

Hate it when that happens. :)

Axe on November 15, 2012 at 9:22 PM

Tell that to the 13 people that go laid off at my job today due to Dodd-Frank regulations. Just today.

JustTruth101 on November 15, 2012 at 9:00 PM

I suspect Frankendodd will kill more jobs than Obamacare, yet it is a lot less visible to the public.

slickwillie2001 on November 15, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Obama has decided he does not like collection agencies, so he will now regulate them the way he regulates coal. He is going to put us out of business.

And hey, Obama people, you think that’s great, don’t you? I’ll tell you how great it is: Once collection agencies can’t collect bills from people who can pay them, those that actually pay their bills will have to pay more. But hey you bunch of deadbeats, you don’t care because you don’t pay your bills anyway, right? 4 more years! woo-hoo! 4 more years! woo-hoo!

Then, the REAL fun comes: once banks figure out that debts can no longer be collected, we can no longer foreclose on homes or repossess cars because we’ve been regulated out of business, then guess what dumba$$e$ – BANKS WON’T MAKE LOANS! Yay! 4 more years! woo-hoo! 4 more years! woo-hoo!

Yeah, Obama people! You would have LOVED to see the people crying as they left our office today. One of the secretaries had been there for 28 years, an IT lady was there for 26. But screw them right? What mean mean people collecting debt!

F*ck you Obama voters. What comes around goes around. You’re so STUPID what you don’t realize is that when we all lose our jobs and don’t pay taxes, the gubmint won’t give you any more obamaphones or food stamps or health care or ANYTHING. You WILL get payback, all of your own doing.

JustTruth101 on November 15, 2012 at 9:41 PM

Sharon Angle was worse than this? I don’t trust myself to say anymore.

Who is John Galt on November 15, 2012 at 9:41 PM

Satan is eagerly waiting to welcome you home Harry Reid.

Left Coast Right Mind on November 15, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Now, now … you’re all being too hard on comrade Lord Harry.

To the Marxist, the only “real” jobs are government jobs — and those “unfair” private industry ones will be criminalized soon enough. For now though, the more regulations … the more bureaucrats that must be hired by the Federal Teat to administer said regulations, leading to the logical conclusion that MORE regulation means MORE jobs.

QED (Quietly, Evasion Devastates …)

ShainS on November 15, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Ya know, every time I see or hear this smarmy b*stard on the TV, I wanna SMACK the ever loving SH*T outta him.

Gothguy on November 15, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Ya know, every time I see or hear this smarmy b*stard on the TV, I wanna SMACK the ever loving SH*T outta him.

Gothguy on November 15, 2012 at 10:13 PM

…I’ll hold him for you!

KOOLAID2 on November 15, 2012 at 10:42 PM

I`m a few stories of this nature from wandering the streets aimlessly and saying “What the HELL is going on??!!”

ThePrez on November 15, 2012 at 6:54 PM

Cue the mime in the invisible box.

Great post ThePrez.

Ufdaubet on November 15, 2012 at 10:59 PM

Ya can’t fix stoopid.

Nancy Reid(D) is the most odious troll to crawl out of the Nevada desert, and I’m absolutely convinced there’s special level of h3ll for him and his ilk.

locomotivebreath1901 on November 16, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Harry Reid should talk to my friend that’s closing a business down and laying off 5 people because of the extra regulations that are coming (not even Obamacare). He said, “It’s too much work, and too expensive to follow every regulation, and so it’s not worth it to keep the business running.”

That business was making him a decent bit of money, and employing 5 people. Was.

Vancomycin on November 16, 2012 at 7:54 AM

F*ck you Obama voters. What comes around goes around. You’re so STUPID what you don’t realize is that when we all lose our jobs and don’t pay taxes, the gubmint won’t give you any more obamaphones or food stamps or health care or ANYTHING. You WILL get payback, all of your own doing.

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There are three distinct groups of Democrats now, although they do intersect in places. The first is, as noted above, just plain stupid. A product of the dumbed down politicised welfare and education systems, they have absolutely no clue about how the world really works and therefore keep doing and asking for stupid stuff.

The second are the facist zealots, who absolutely do get the negative consequences of their actions, and are using Cloward-Piven to crash the system so they can seize total control and shape their new world order from the wreckage.

And the third are the equivalent of organised crime, using the system to milk personal wealth for them and their cohorts. The new elite robber barons if you will. The Democrat Party is a criminal organization!

Groups two and three manipulate the masses who comprise group 1 with consumate ease to achieve their ends.

Unless we accept that there are no old school patriot Democrats any more and begin to fight the groups above on their own terms on the correct battlefields, with all the cultural and new media tools at our disposal then we will never win.

Blindsummit on November 16, 2012 at 8:06 AM

Neo-cons to Harry : we agree already. Let’s get this done.

PS We have capitulated totally to your will and we might make a little noise every now and then, but that is just for show. We really and truly have no deeply held beliefs and welcome the opportunity to sit at the same table as you wise and courteous leaders. If you help us marginalize the social cons we will be in your debt forever.

signed,

House and Senate republican leaders as well as the republican establishment in general.

Fuquay Steve on November 16, 2012 at 9:06 AM

Based on my own experience in manufacturing, I guarantee that I can walk into any manufacturing facility in the USA and find multiple OSHA violations. OSHA alone has so many regulations, many that are unproductive and illogical, that even large well staffed businesses can’t keep up and stay in 100% compliance.

Free Indeed on November 16, 2012 at 9:53 AM

Now you know why the country’s economy and national security is in shambles. Here we have the majority leader of the senate and every time he opens his mouth, he leaves no doubt in our minds that this idiot is brain dead. Multiply this by the number of elected and non-elected politicians in government and, all that awaits us is disaster.

savage24 on November 16, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Harry Reid, “I am, therefore you do not need to think.”

georgeofthedesert on November 17, 2012 at 11:43 AM