French CEOs: So, we’re kinda’ drowning over here…

posted at 3:46 pm on November 14, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

Last spring, despite the many and deep fiscal woes of multiple eurozone countries, France went ahead and decided to just keep skipping merrily in their wide and calamitous wake by electing a whole swath of certifiable Socialists to their national government. Unsurprisingly, French President Francois Hollande proceeded to do what socialists do best: I believe the fashionable term these days is “raise revenue,” and I don’t mean the sort that happens naturally after enacting measures that encourage competitiveness and economic growth. I mean the other one.

The incoming results are even less surprising. Via Bloomberg Businessweek:

Over the past few weeks, an extraordinary cry of alarm has risen from chief executives who warn that the French economy has gone dangerously off track. In an interview to be published on Nov. 15 in the magazine l’Express, Chief Executive Officer Henri de Castries of financial-services group Axa (CS:FP) warns that France is rapidly losing ground, not only against Germany but against nearly all its European neighbors. “There’s a strong risk that in 2013 and 2014, we will fall behind economies such as Spain, Italy, and Britain,” de Castries says.

On Nov. 5, veteran corporate chieftain Louis Gallois released a government-commissioned report calling for “shock treatment” to restore French competitiveness. And on Oct. 28, a group of 98 CEOs published an open letter to Hollande that said public-sector spending, which at 56 percent of gross domestic product is the highest in Europe, “is no longer supportable.” The letter was signed by the CEOs of virtually every major French company. …

The problems they’re complaining about aren’t new. Heavy taxes and social charges required to support high government spending have eroded corporate profitability. In the l’Express interview, de Castries says that on average, the government charges incurred by his company for each employee are more than double the employee’s take-home pay. French labor costs are the second-highest in Europe, after Belgium, as companies are burdened with rigid and devilishly complicated work rules. No surprise, then, that operating margins at French companies have shrunk almost 40 percent over the past decade…

The French economy has been stuck at zero percent growth for months, while unemployment has climbed to above 10 percent — and all signs point to an oncoming recession. Hollande gave himself two years to turn the French economy around, and if this is the direction he’s taking it, I can’t say I’m placing much hope in his pledge. It’s a universal truth (though unfortunately not one that’s universally acknowledged) that expanding taxes and an expanding welfare state do not a robust, innovative, and job-creating economy make.

And then… there’s this. The cherry on top. The government can’t get their stuff together, and so they punish Nutella? …I can’t even talk about this.

First the French government went after the rich. Now it has it in for Nutella.

Despite an outcry in support of the beloved chocolate and hazelnut spread, the Senate passed a measure Wednesday that would triple the tax on palm and some other vegetable oils in the hope of cutting down on obesity.

The “Nutella tax” would affect any foods made with those oils and bring in about €40 million ($51 million).


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May all the American ones who supported Obama “drown” too.

Schadenfreude on November 14, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Hollande gave himself two years to turn the French economy around, and if this is the direction he’s taking it, I can’t say I placing much hope in his pledge.

You mean if he doesn’t get it turned around in that timeframe, it’s a one-term proposition? Uh oh, you don’t wanna make pledges like that. You could win up…..uh, being reelected.

BTW, the wife loves Nutella. Looks like we’re never moving to France.

Doughboy on November 14, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Oh Merde.

portlandon on November 14, 2012 at 3:50 PM

France implements 100% wine tax. Hilarity ensues!

Marcola on November 14, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Gee, that’s too bad, sux to be them.

JPeterman on November 14, 2012 at 3:51 PM

win = wind

Must proofread!

Doughboy on November 14, 2012 at 3:51 PM

I like Nutella.

D-fusit on November 14, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Maybe, just maybe if the rest of the world adopts these policies, we’ll get enough conservative immigrants flooding in to America to turn the tide in American politics.

Oh wait, we’re doing the same thing.

DeathtotheSwiss on November 14, 2012 at 3:52 PM

But I hate France. went there back in 82 or 83. Paris had an ongoing labor dispute with the garbage collectors. Trash was piled 10 feet high in most of the downtown areas and it was July, boy did that place smell.

D-fusit on November 14, 2012 at 3:54 PM

Last spring, despite the many and deep fiscal woes of multiple eurozone countries, France went ahead and decided to just keep skipping merrily in their wide and calamitous wake by electing a whole swath of certifiable Socialists to their national government.

Let it burn.

the_nile on November 14, 2012 at 3:54 PM

It’s a universal truth (though unfortunately not one that’s universally acknowledged) that expanding taxes and an expanding welfare state do not a robust, innovative, and job-creating economy make.

Loving the Austen reference, Erika.

As for Nutella, leave it to the French to try and balance their budget on the back of an Italian corporation. Good luck with that. Let us know how it works out. *sigh*

Libraritarian on November 14, 2012 at 3:55 PM

*snork*

Bully.

kim roy on November 14, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Gee, that’s too bad, sux to be them.

JPeterman on November 14, 2012 at 3:51 PM

One good thing about the election is that it has forced many conservatives to adopt a real change in attitude. See above. No matter what happens, it’s time to NOT be nice.

L.I.B.

Nick_Angel on November 14, 2012 at 3:55 PM

But I hate France. went there back in 82 or 83. Paris had an ongoing labor dispute with the garbage collectors. Trash was piled 10 feet high in most of the downtown areas and it was July, boy did that place smell.

D-fusit on November 14, 2012 at 3:54 PM

It wasn’t the trash.

Nick_Angel on November 14, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Kid yourself at your own peril, no matter who you are.

Schadenfreude on November 14, 2012 at 3:57 PM

First the French government went after the rich. Now it has it in for Nutella.

Dead to me France. DEAD TO ME!

Gatsu on November 14, 2012 at 3:57 PM

I like the sound of it:

“There’s a strong risk that in 2013 and 2014, we will fall behind economies such as Spain, Italy, and Britain,” de Castries says.

Did he imply that there’s a significant chance of France going into bankruptcy even sooner than Italy or Spain? Ahh, 1200 years of history down the drain, sic transit gloria mundi and all that…

Archivarix on November 14, 2012 at 3:57 PM

The “Nutella tax” would affect any foods made with those oils and bring in about €40 million ($51 million) in the make-believe world inhabited by Democrats/Leftist/Liberals/Marxists/Progressives/Socialists. Meanwhile here in Real World, the tax will further crush a business with the resulting “ripple effect” extending outward to destroy more ancillary businesses, resulting in lower tax revenues. And the downward Leftist/Liberal spiral continues…

FIFY

oldleprechaun on November 14, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Get Ready folks, Hollande and Obama think alike. They both are financially illiterate.

plutorocks on November 14, 2012 at 3:58 PM

The Psychotic behavior of these raving Ideologues is astounding! How many times do they have to see their policies Fail miserably, before they start to deal with reality? It’s like a bunch of tantrum throwing 2 yr olds. You have to throw the repercussions to their actions in their face, every time and they only throw another tantrum rather than learn!

http://www.paratisiusa.blogspot.com

God Bless America!

paratisi on November 14, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Kid yourself at your own peril, no matter who you are.

Schadenfreude on November 14, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Add to that the looming Obamataxes on businesses and the “rich”.

You ain’t seen a depression like this one, evah.

Schadenfreude on November 14, 2012 at 3:59 PM

I like Nutella.

D-fusit on November 14, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Let it burn. Then we can roast some contraband marshmallows over the flame and make Nutella S’mores with our black market graham crackers. Yum.

Fallon on November 14, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Oh god!!! I’m doubled over laughing … STILL – can’t even catch my breath!

djl130 on November 14, 2012 at 4:06 PM

The “Nutella tax” would affect any foods made with those oils and bring in about €40 million ($51 million) in the make-believe world inhabited by Democrats/Leftist/Liberals/Marxists/Progressives/Socialists. Meanwhile here in Real World, the tax will further crush a business with the resulting “ripple effect” extending outward to destroy more ancillary businesses, resulting in lower tax revenues. And the downward Leftist/Liberal spiral continues…

FIFY

oldleprechaun on November 14, 2012 at 3:57 PM

They invade our restaurants, and we fall back. They tax and ban countless foods, and we fall back. Not again. Not this time. The line must be drawn HERE!

Nick_Angel on November 14, 2012 at 4:07 PM

So why is it that the same policies liberals in America support are the very same policies that failed & failing European countries have been following with very disastrous results, but somehow if they are tried here, they’ll work?
I guess when I see somebody doing something stupid, I tend to avoid it.
I see that liberals see somebody doing something stupid and run to be the second to try it.

Badger40 on November 14, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Love the cliff.
EMBRACE the cliff!

jukin3 on November 14, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Just plain stupid.
These dingdongs are willing to upset a significant % of the French population for 51 million in revenue !
Ah well. It’s their choice. As we have done the same we cannot complain.
The Gimmedat party is wordwide.

Jabberwock on November 14, 2012 at 4:15 PM

One good thing about the election is that it has forced many conservatives to adopt a real change in attitude. See above. No matter what happens, it’s time to NOT be nice.

L.I.B.

Nick_Angel on November 14, 2012 at 3:55 PM

I’m not even bitter anymore. I wake with a smile on my face and these words on my lips………..

Let. It. Burn.

JPeterman on November 14, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Don’t worry Nutella, they will soon start selling frogs and snails out of the vending machines in Paris, and the palm oil tax will be forgotten.

NapaConservative on November 14, 2012 at 4:16 PM

I’m not even bitter anymore. I wake with a smile on my face and these words on my lips………..

Let. It. Burn.

JPeterman on November 14, 2012 at 4:15 PM

“Some men just want to see the world burn.”

We’ve all become The Joker.

Nick_Angel on November 14, 2012 at 4:19 PM

Good. I bet most of those CEOs voted for Hollande. Like the companies here who supported Obama then started laying off employees right after he won. I hope they all fail miserably. I hope the ones who supported Hollande get what they voted for good and hard.

Elections have consequences.

juliesa on November 14, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Meanwhile, the mayor of Paris wants to ban cars built before 1997 from the city center:

Paris mayor looks to ban old cars from city

What if people can’t afford newer cars? Silly American, the French government will help them buy new cars!

Ward Cleaver on November 14, 2012 at 4:22 PM

“There’s a strong risk that in 2013 and 2014, we will fall behind economies such as Spain, Italy, and Britain,”

Ouch Brits.

Is Britain really now as much of a basket case as Spain and Italy? It has a thriving manufacturing sector specializing in jihadis, surely that is monetized?

CorporatePiggy on November 14, 2012 at 4:23 PM

The muslims are working on a takeover anyway, so soon all sorts of things will be banned.

Bishop on November 14, 2012 at 4:23 PM

I don’t think my sleep pattern will be affected.

docflash on November 14, 2012 at 4:24 PM

http://www.paratisiusa.blogspot.com

God Bless America!

paratisi on November 14, 2012 at 3:59 PM

I’m with you on that.

From; “What can we really learn from the 2012 polls?”

We learned that when you let the democrats say lies about the republican candidate it works and you need to fight back with the real truth and not let it slide. Rolling over and thinking nobody could believe that just doesn’t work. To many gullible voters out there.

plutorocks on November 12, 2012 at 8:03 PM

Time to get tough and smart.

plutorocks on November 14, 2012 at 4:24 PM

War on…Nutella!

Even worse…if it’s bacon-infused Nutella. :)

22044 on November 14, 2012 at 4:25 PM

What if people can’t afford newer cars? Silly American, the French government will help them buy new cars!

Ward Cleaver on November 14, 2012 at 4:22 PM

How do you say cash for clunkers in French?

JPeterman on November 14, 2012 at 4:25 PM

Time to sharpen those old guillotines again.

NapaConservative on November 14, 2012 at 4:27 PM

How do you say cash for clunkers in French?

JPeterman on November 14, 2012 at 4:25 PM

Francs pour Citroen’s

NapaConservative on November 14, 2012 at 4:28 PM

Don’t you fret none, there Monsieur & Madame Frog. I’ll bet all your “guest workers” would be happy to even out the playing field with a little sharia…

Bruno Strozek on November 14, 2012 at 4:35 PM

Ha! When Hollande was elected and the Left here and there erupted in euphoria claiming that austerity was over and Socialism had finally driven a stake through the heart of capitalism, I told them 3 things:

1. Math always wins in the end.

2. The French Right was actually thrilled that Hollande won because he and the Socialists would get the blame for what would have to take place.

3. In 6 months, Hollande will have backtracked on a good deal of his election promises, the French people will be irate with the continuing decline of the French economy, and Francois Hollande’s approval ratings will be in the 30s (he had January 2009-Obama-like approval ratings when he was sworn into office).

I was correct on all 3.

I also remember asking them why, if tax increases on the wealthy and corporations were so great for the economy, was Obama pleading with Hollande not to take a, figurative, 21st guillotine to the national economy by following through on his election promises to dramatically do both.

As is the case when I quiz them about the tax rates in Canada, the EU, China, etc, it was COMPLETE CRICKETS.

Resist We Much on November 14, 2012 at 4:36 PM

Hollande is really the socialist archetype. He is wealthy, highly educated, and lacks any private sector experience. He’s the ideal candidate for the Democrats in 2016. Hollande-Fauxcahontas ftw.

CorporatePiggy on November 14, 2012 at 4:40 PM

elections have consequences, give the voters what they asked for. at some point you would think they’d get a little sober and figure out that they are running out of rich people to eat…

burserker on November 14, 2012 at 4:40 PM

I’m not even bitter anymore. I wake with a smile on my face and these words on my lips………..

Let. It. Burn.

JPeterman on November 14, 2012 at 4:15 PM

And the sooner the better. The sooner we take our medicine, the quicker we can get on the road to a true recovery, not these manufactured ‘wreckovery summers’.

txsurveyor on November 14, 2012 at 4:41 PM

I think all of this (including Obama’s genius tricks) are purposeful – to usher in one world economy.

stenwin77 on November 14, 2012 at 4:41 PM

Let it burn.

the_nile on November 14, 2012 at 3:54 PM

We are the largest trading partners with the European Union countries of which France comes in number three behind Great Britain and Germany.

They burn, we get burned.

Dr. ZhivBlago on November 14, 2012 at 4:42 PM

Alternate headline: “Liberals Everywhere Doubling Down on Stupidity” According to Secretary of Humor, Ron White, “You can’t fix stupid.” When asked about this statement by a reporter, Mr. White referred journalists to the Obama administration. In a further statement on the situation, President Obama responded, “I won.”

College Prof on November 14, 2012 at 4:44 PM

I think all of this (including Obama’s genius tricks) are purposeful – to usher in one world economy.

stenwin77 on November 14, 2012 at 4:41 PM

Ding ding ding!

Prepare yourselves.

tom daschle concerned on November 14, 2012 at 4:44 PM

I’m not even bitter anymore. I wake with a smile on my face and these words on my lips………..

Let. It. Burn.

JPeterman on November 14, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Must be the Yam Yam. :-)

UltimateBob on November 14, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Raise of hands. Who here was alive when France actually mattered?

29Victor on November 14, 2012 at 4:45 PM

But I hate France. went there back in 82 or 83. Paris had an ongoing labor dispute with the garbage collectors. Trash was piled 10 feet high in most of the downtown areas and it was July, boy did that place smell.

D-fusit on November 14, 2012 at 3:54 PM

trust me it stinks even WHEN they pick up the trash ….

conservative tarheel on November 14, 2012 at 4:46 PM

I think all of this (including Obama’s genius tricks) are purposeful – to usher in one world economy.

stenwin77 on November 14, 2012 at 4:41 PM

Ding ding ding!

Prepare yourselves.

tom daschle concerned on November 14, 2012 at 4:44 PM

I believe you are right ….

conservative tarheel on November 14, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Marie Antoinette…. “Let them eat cake”
Francois Hollande…. “No Nutella for you”

moo on November 14, 2012 at 4:48 PM

But I hate France. went there back in 82 or 83. Paris had an ongoing labor dispute with the garbage collectors. Trash was piled 10 feet high in most of the downtown areas and it was July, boy did that place smell.

D-fusit on November 14, 2012 at 3:54 PM

Maybe we convince the rest of the the civilized world to go left of Obama, after all America is always the benchmark for right wing capitalism (in Euroland for example) even if Obama is the president.

America might be saved yet, because the rest of the world is even dumber than we are.

William Eaton on November 14, 2012 at 4:49 PM

Raise of hands. Who here was alive when France actually mattered?

29Victor on November 14, 2012 at 4:45 PM

No kidding. Hitler demolished them in 47 days – from Fall Gelb to effective date of the armistice – even though France had a bigger army, was better equipped, and everyone (except Hitler), including the German generals, thought France would either win or it would be a long slog that could go either way.

I also remember stories about the French in WWI. Apparently, they were the best-dressed corpses on the battlefield. Everyone noticed. Facepalm.

Resist We Much on November 14, 2012 at 4:57 PM

What the h3ll, just go Sharia on those pesky CEO’s.

Problem solved.

NapaConservative on November 14, 2012 at 5:02 PM

If it bothers them, they need to leave. Staying will only drag out the problem.

Esthier on November 14, 2012 at 5:08 PM

Perhaps North Korea can send them some food when things get bad. You know, gruel mixed with sawdust. Breakfast of socialist champions.

hanzblinx on November 14, 2012 at 5:09 PM

Let’s help them out by returning the 300 cots that they so graciously donated to us when 9/11 happened in NYC.

NapaConservative on November 14, 2012 at 5:11 PM

Despite an outcry in support of the beloved chocolate and hazelnut spread, the Senate passed a measure Wednesday that would triple the tax on palm and some other vegetable oils in the hope of cutting down on obesity.

It’s the carbs, you idiots, not the fats, that are the root of obesity.

Another fiction that governments double down on to solve the problem – needless to say, the obesity problem will not be solved until people eat enough protein and fat, instead of filling up on much cheaper carbs.

This is why you see so many poor people who are fat. They’re starving their organs while their fat cells fill and multiply. Read Why We Get Fat by Gary Taubes and you’ll be horrified by what the “experts” are telling us.

Science – promoting obesity while trying to end it, promoting AGW when it doesn’t exist. Mmm mmm mm!

disa on November 14, 2012 at 5:13 PM

Clearly the French didn’t do it right. Obama and Harry Reid have a plan that will work much, much better.

hawksruleva on November 14, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Oh.

Well.

FlatFoot on November 14, 2012 at 5:18 PM

Raise of hands. Who here was alive when France actually mattered?

29Victor on November 14, 2012 at 4:45 PM

LOL, I think the only thing they have going for them is production of nuclear reactors for military ships and power plants. Besides crappy cars and some good wine and cheese, nothing else comes to mind.

franciscodanconia on November 14, 2012 at 5:20 PM

Resist We Much on November 14, 2012 at 4:57 PM

yeah, but Hitler (like Obama) cheated by going round the defenses!

OldEnglish on November 14, 2012 at 5:21 PM

The “Nutella tax” would affect any foods made with those oils and bring in about €40 million ($51 million).

Always funny to see what they think these taxes will bring in. Oh let me guess, they’ve already decided on additional sixty million in spending to offset this “additional revenue.” LOL

Ukiah on November 14, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Elections have consequences.

darkpixel on November 14, 2012 at 5:39 PM

public-sector spending, which at 56 percent of gross domestic product

Is that number right? Mind . . . can’t wrap around it.

Axe on November 14, 2012 at 5:53 PM

Can’t make this shite up, now he goes after Nutella??!!! :)…) Hollande made a personal enemy of my twin 4 year old nieces, now their mom has an excuse not to give them any: ‘Hollande took your Nutella away, girls’ :)…to which, apparently one of them replied ‘Hollande est un vrai con’ :)… Hehe, little anarchist in the making…she’s not going to sit back and let them take her Nutella :)… But anywyas, Hollande’s popularity is in free fall, went from 60% 6 months go to mid 30%, he’s toast, first termer…a cretin without any backbone, no sense whatsoever or and understanding of how the economy works…hope the idiots eho coted for him suffer, ssme like the idiotswho coted from the bigger con artist in the WH…

jimver on November 14, 2012 at 6:18 PM

It should read: same like the idiots who voted for…

jimver on November 14, 2012 at 6:18 PM

Heavy taxes and social charges required to support high government spending have eroded corporate profitability. In the l’Express interview, de Castries says that on average, the government charges incurred by his company for each employee are more than double the employee’s take-home pay. French labor costs are the second-highest in Europe, after Belgium, as companies are burdened with rigid and devilishly complicated work rules.

Oh My God!

Hey, have they heard about “Disparate Impact” yet? We will be like France, except half our Workers will be have criminal records, be illiterate and live in a house they can’t afford. Remember the Card that Holder carries around with him in his wallet.

Bulletchaser on November 14, 2012 at 6:20 PM

Nutella is French? No wonder it sucks.

woodNfish on November 14, 2012 at 6:24 PM

Oh My God!

Hey, have they heard about “Disparate Impact” yet? We will be like France, except half our Workers will be have criminal records, be illiterate and live in a house they can’t afford. Remember the Card that Holder carries around with him in his wallet.

Bulletchaser on November 14, 2012 at 6:20 PM

Yepper. Those who think we’re that far from France are sorely mistaken. I have the advantage of going back and forth in between the two countries, and observe. We’re heading in the Euro direction faster we you think.

jimver on November 14, 2012 at 6:24 PM

Send all your right-wingers over here, France. :-)

L.I.B.

Punchenko on November 14, 2012 at 6:30 PM

The “Nutella tax” would affect any foods made with those oils and bring in about €40 million ($51 million).

Wow. They will piss that away in a heartbeat. Maybe if the French suffer enough they will wake up?

I really hope they do.

dogsoldier on November 14, 2012 at 6:50 PM

I’m not even bitter anymore. I wake with a smile on my face and these words on my lips………..

Let. It. Burn.

JPeterman on November 14, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Problem is that Boehner has no idea. Nor balls.

riddick on November 14, 2012 at 7:03 PM

Elections have consequences.

darkpixel on November 14, 2012 at 5:39 PM

You really think they do for that large portion of the 47%? I am sure ObamaPhones and welfare will keep on flowing…

riddick on November 14, 2012 at 7:05 PM

I think socialists and people like really liberal left democrats like our President and some of his friends, do not get it, that you need revenues…at your COMPANY…in order to have something to tax, and that a bigger GDP takes care of all your problems. ALL of them.

Fleuries on November 14, 2012 at 7:31 PM

I’d recommend they pull up stakes and move to America en masse…

If we weren’t going precisely down the same road.

MelonCollie on November 14, 2012 at 7:59 PM

The “Nutella tax” would affect any foods made with those oils and bring in about €40 million ($51 million).

Only economic illiterates believe you can multiply a tax hike on a product by current volume of product sold and come up with that much revenue.

IOW, this is a lie. Actual revenue raised will be much, much less. If in fact it raises any.

On the bright side, such measures do stimulate the economy. But only the black-market economy.

tom on November 14, 2012 at 8:03 PM

L.I.B.

xplodeit on November 14, 2012 at 8:04 PM

how do you say go Galt in french?

tom daschle concerned on November 14, 2012 at 8:25 PM

I’d recommend they pull up stakes and move to America en masse…

If we weren’t going precisely down the same road.

MelonCollie on November 14, 2012 at 7:59 PM

So where do I recommend my sons consider settling? Singapore? Hong Kong? Costa Rica?

Over50 on November 14, 2012 at 8:26 PM

So where do I recommend my sons consider settling? Singapore? Hong Kong? Costa Rica?

Over50 on November 14, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Only place I can think of right off the bat is Australia, unfortunately, because that place is very notable for being rather dangerous. (scroll down to near the bottom and click on “Real Life – Australia” )

MelonCollie on November 14, 2012 at 8:44 PM

It’s the carbs, you idiots, not the fats, that are the root of obesity.

Another fiction that governments double down on to solve the problem – needless to say, the obesity problem will not be solved until people eat enough protein and fat, instead of filling up on much cheaper carbs.

This is why you see so many poor people who are fat. They’re starving their organs while their fat cells fill and multiply. Read Why We Get Fat by Gary Taubes and you’ll be horrified by what the “experts” are telling us.

Science – promoting obesity while trying to end it, promoting AGW when it doesn’t exist. Mmm mmm mm!

Indeed.. !!! Yeah! another that knows the great nutritional secret that our Government pyramids have been contributing to the obesity rates.

I love Taubes, but easier for many folks and entertaining is “Fat Head: The Movie” Great stuff.

I love my coconut and palm oils too..and isn’t funny that most of us get fatter and fatter when they are used less and less with replaced with the rancid and poor quality Pufa’s they shove at us?

Noelie on November 14, 2012 at 10:39 PM

Yeah, like we couldn’t see this one coming.

Sheesh.

Bob's Kid on November 15, 2012 at 10:21 AM

Goatweed won’t be allowed to drive his Rolls Royce Phantom to the Isle de France?

goatweed on November 15, 2012 at 12:21 PM