You are half- right. Seniors are 10% of the population but account for just over 21% of the 47%. My mistake. (The largest group pay federal taxes at about the same rate as Mitt Romney — a fact that is conveniently forgotten by intellectually dishonesty comm enters like you — but it’s through Social Security and Medicare withholding)

Really, though, “commie?” Me, a home-owning, tax-paying, equity investing middle-aged guy? I think not.

urban elitist on November 14, 2012 at 8:45 AM

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Ok fine. You’re not a commie, you just think and act like one- got it. Mitt Romney pays Capital Gains Taxes- at the same rate as does every other RICH limousine liberal. And yes, he’s not a senior in the 47%. Whoopee. Here’s an idea !! Change the IRS code- use a super majority if need be. oops.

But back to hating the seniors, who built this great country.

Go to you WaPo comrades and check their data out-
Medicare age % of population is 15% not 10%. Do the math with 220 million potential working adults and potential tax payers- and then remove ALL those awful seniors who pay taxes on pensions, annuities and retirement distributions from your 47% smear data- you math does not hold water. And tell your friends Romney was not including the military- as they pay taxes a s well after some credits. Another lefty lie echo chambered to trash a decent man.

But stop regurgitating the liberal parsing and lying. You don’t get to $1 trillion dollar deficits because of Senior Citizens. And yes, they don’t like their country going Euro style Section 8.

I continue to be a huge Jindal supporter. I’m still conservative-libertarian. You were sayin…

Here’s a tip: Whether or not the GOP supports “amnesty” will not make a difference if the conservative side of the debate is dominated — or appears to be dominated – by people who think Hispanics are a bunch of lazy breeders who only come to America to go on welfare, drop anchor babies and steal.

urban elitist on November 14, 2012 at 7:54 AM

Assumptions about the motivation of Latinos isn’t worth anyone’s time. Whether or not illegals come here with the intention to use government programs doesn’t really matter because inevitably quite a lot of them do end up needing assistance. My own personal opinion is that the majority do want to improve their financial situation, but due to the fact that arrive here poor and less educated is what makes it much more difficult.
The Center for Immigration Studies reports that in Texas for instance , 58 % of illegal households collect some form of welfare, , with 49 percent using food assistance and 41 percent using Medicaid. In California and Illinois, 55 percent use welfare.

Nationally, 47 percent of illegals use welfare; 39 percent use food assistance and 35 percent use Medicaid.

Those are some pretty high percentages.

“We have a darned good chance using this blueprint to get something done this year,” Schumer, who chairs a Judiciary Committee subcommittee on immigration, said on NBC’s Meet the Press. “The Republican Party has learned that being anti-illegal anti-immigrant doesn’t work for them politically.”…

See repubs, this is what you get for lying down with dems. A stab in the back on a natl TV show. Are you paying attention, Graham, Rubio and Hatch? You’re being led down this road by pundits and your good friend across the aisle. It’s a loser with the base. You need to find a better way to win.

Isn’t this all a moot point since “illegals” are employed, have driver’s licenses, receive food stamps. get tax refunds from the IRS and are already voting in large numbers?
Fallon on November 14, 2012 at 8:26 AM

Excellent comment.

Securing the border shouldn’t be contingent on anything. I don’t want to hear a damn thing about granting amnesty to anyone until that border is secured.

Look, it is very sad to see once beautiful areas in the southwest, for example, now resemble Third World slums. Some people might want to make this into a racial thing, but it is more about Mexico dumping its poor, unskilled population on us. Consider communities of Taiwanese or Korean immigrants in Southern California; these areas are often known for excellent schools, high home values and other desirable attributes. You see, there is a reason why we have immigration laws and encourage immigration from other countries under a certain set of rules. We want to make sure the people coming here have the skills we need, are not going to be a burden on the states, etc.

We should not believe any promises from politicians that the border will be secured if we go along with another wave of amnesty now. We should believe it only when we see it.

As for granting citizenship to illegal aliens: NEVER. Most of us can support some kind of legal recognition or guestworker program or whatever, but people who enter this country illegally should never be granted citizenship, not now, not 25 years from now, and not ever. What about all of the people waiting in line for their green cards and paying all kinds of legal fees in order to remain in this country through proper means? It is simply not right to let one group of people leapfrog ahead of everyone else.

What makes this all so sick is that people are trying to force us to go along with amnesty, not because it is the right thing to do necessarily, but because they are trying to win the votes of people who will never support the Republican Party in large numbers anyway, for a variety of other reasons.

people who scream racism (you) are usually only good for one thing – screaming racism ;)

Slade73 on November 14, 2012 at 8:05 AM

I’m just pointing out that your team has an image problem.

FlaMurph on November 14, 2012 at 8:32 AM

Lying racist commie turd?

Are you 12?

You are half- right. Seniors are 10% of the population but account for just over 21% of the 47%. My mistake. (The largest group pay federal taxes at about the same rate as Mitt Romney — a fact that is conveniently forgotten by intellectually dishonesty comm enters like you — but it’s through Social Security and Medicare withholding)

Really, though, “commie?” Me, a home-owning, tax-paying, equity investing middle-aged guy? I think not.

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You do realize that the biggest sub-group of the 47% is retirees collecting Social Security, and that they went for Romney by 12 points, right?

Here’s a tip: Whether or not the GOP supports “amnesty” will not make a difference if the conservative side of the debate is dominated — or appears to be dominated – by people who think Hispanics are a bunch of lazy breeders who only come to America to go on welfare, drop anchor babies and steal.

urban elitist on November 14, 2012 at 7:54 AM
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You lying commie turd.
The strong language is required to counter your HuffPo Pravdathink LIES you dare spread to this wonderful forum. Just because your Messiah gets away with being a Lying POS – doesn’t mean you get away with it.

Seniors REPRESENT ONLY 10% of the 47%- and news flash- they paid their dues, most of them, and are NOT the problem with the dysfunction that the Democrat Party has destroyed this country with. And that 10 % number is Dwarfed and nullified by the MISSING MILLIONS of adults who have dropped out and are NOT EVEN COUNTED ANYMORE As a TOTAL % of the population the 47% number is LOW – and the REAL NUMBER is incalculable- but you commies and your propaganda just love to parse and believe your own little reality- and deceive America. The GOP hates seniors and everyone else, while racist democrats vote “identity”.

Stop the lying. Do some math. More mouths to feed means LESS STUFF for the racist, yes racist, Urban voters. You are being dishonest to your comrades if you tell them any different.

But that’s just how you roll, Da ?

Isn’t this a moot point since we are no longer a country that follows laws for civility but instead writes reams of laws and regulations to fund and gum up the system?

Basic premise: Illegals are already employed, have driver’s licenses, receive food stamps, IRS tax refunds and are voting in many areas.

But folks this party already is…….either dumb or traitorous.

DEAD…..republican party.

urban elitist on November 14, 2012 at 8:02 AM

people who scream racism (you) are usually only good for one thing – screaming racism ;)

Apparently you haven’t read the immigration threads on Hot Air, which are chock full nativist ravings.

urban elitist on November 14, 2012 at 8:02 AM

You’re chock full of bull squeeze. F@#$ off and die, already, you racist prick.

Rs need to embrace who they are. flawed..but a hell of a lot better than the alternative

r keller on November 14, 2012 at 2:01 AM

makes me think of the “I’m good enough, I’m smart enough, and dog-gone it, people like me” routine what’s his face used to do – ‘Stuart Smalley’ or something?

Weaksauce.

Not voting again for ‘better than the alternative’ ever, ever again. When the election is lost again, and again, and again, and the country continues to accelerate in its hand basket to hell, somehow, having done so doesn’t seem to make me feel better.

Slade73 on November 14, 2012 at 7:57 AM

Apparently you haven’t read the immigration threads on Hot Air, which are chock full nativist ravings.

urban elitist on November 14, 2012 at 7:54 AM

hahaha

and therein lies the problem. Conservatives think nothing of the sort, that’s what the liberal media says they think, and what loyal and useful idiots like yourself rinse and repeat.

Pat yourselves on the back a couple of times.

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Or make a very loud case that more amnesty will create millions more in the class of 47%, and that will reduce the amount of redistribution of dollars for the urban voters get to have – which ultimately means less stuff for them…….

In other words, appeal to their socialist principles.

FlaMurph on November 14, 2012 at 7:43 AM

You do realize that the biggest sub-group of the 47% is retirees collecting Social Security, and that they went for Romney by 12 points, right?

Here’s a tip: Whether or not the GOP supports “amnesty” will not make a difference if the conservative side of the debate is dominated — or appears to be dominated – by people who think Hispanics are a bunch of lazy breeders who only come to America to go on welfare, drop anchor babies and steal.

we could either grant amnesty to 12 million Hispanic Dems and lose the next election

or legalize marijuana and win the next election

Slade73 on November 14, 2012 at 7:34 AM

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Or make a very loud case that more amnesty will create millions more in the class of 47%, and that will reduce the amount of redistribution of dollars for the urban voters get to have – which ultimately means less stuff for them…….

In other words, appeal to their socialist principles.

marco “fish-lips” rubio for amnesty???…but….but….but…..i thought he was a tea party conservative/s