This is a governor who wants creationism taught in schools.

inklake on November 14, 2012 at 12:15 PM

Actually, he signed into law a voucher program that lets students attend schools where creationsism may or may not be taught.
Jindal has never stated that he “wants creationism taught in schools.”

Mr. Arrogant on November 14, 2012 at 3:45 PM

inklake on November 14, 2012 at 12:15 PM

This is a governor who wants creationism taught in schools.

inklake on November 14, 2012 at 12:15 PM

What’s wrong with that? You don’t really think everything just made itself do you?

We allowed smears to go unanswered this summer. That was our great mistake. Otherwise we had a superior candidate.

writeblock on November 13, 2012 at 6:51 PM

You hit that one squarely. It was almost as if the RNC was afraid, probably was , in fact, that to counter these , they’d have been accused of racism. Well hell, that was going to happen no matter what . Rightly or wrongly, the blue collar voters, who voted against themselves in 2008 and 2012 , responded to these attack ads, exactly as designed. Failure to respond simply gave them the patina of plausibility. Remember Joe Biden? All his aggressive , hackneyed and vicious attacks were seen as tough guy strengths by far too many. Had the campaign allowed Ryan to truly open up, Biden would still be comatose.

Louisiana is not a rich state, thanks to generations of Democrat dominance. We’ve had 3 Republican governors, Dave Treen, center right , a little moderate, then Mike Foster, tough, VERY conservative and very much the Governor of Louisiana , he brought Bobby Jindal to the forefront. Jindal’s first loss here was based on a very racist and vicious campaign by Blankstare and the Democrats. Post Katrina, he became the only logical alternative and has done good things for the state. The fact that all the right people hate him just adds to my confidence in him.

Face this people, Akin should never have gotten to where he was. The fact that the DNC poured a hell of a lot of money to boost him into his primary victory should have set off all kinds of alarm bells . Instead, the Communists simply bided their time , waiting for him to implode and he did. Do we need more of this? Jindal is trying to address this. He is not calling for amnesty and he is not calling for abandonment of principle. He is calling for bringing the message, and it is a great message , up from the 1980′s.

Hate the message and the messenger all you wish, and continue to complain in the darkness while the Communists take it all. OR, pay attention to what is actually said and how to make it more easily grasped by the low info voter.

As I stated at it, part of the problem is, the GOP is viewing some groups and organizations as our “Allies” when they aren’t.

Religion is not our ally. In the past 4 years, Catholic and Christian churches, for the most part, has sided with the Liberals on the most major, and controversial issues. DREAM ACT, which in many cases, grants illegal immigrants benefits better than legal U.S. Citizens, in and out of state, when it comes to college (Namely In-state, or even in county/city, a factor notable with a lot of community colleges, tuition rates) They sided with the Democrats. When it came to Obamneycare. When the church finally got around to reading the fine print which said “Oh yea, by the way, Government funded Abortion is in this bill, and you all have to provide it”. What did the Church do? They came running to us, and said “Oh here’s the short end of the stick, please hold onto it tightly. We need you guys, to clean up the mess we helped to create”: End Result, we get the Akin/Mourdock idiots.

Big Biz/Wall Street is not our friends: Now before someone comes here, and starts shouting that I’m really a secret Occupier, let me explain something: Wall Street knows how to play both sides, it also knows, that when Democrats are in power, it’s best to keep it’s mouth shut, and use lobbyist quietly. But for our side, we look like idiots, when we accept the words of Donald Trump, and give him a spot at Convention platforms and on Talk radio, over the people in our party who have real ideas for our economy, and aren’t just looking to get their face plastered on our tv screens.

Big Media, is NEVER going to be our friend: Dear Establishment, just give up on this already. In 2008, you all fell for it, and gave us John McCain, because during the Primary, the Media portrayed him as some great, bi-partisan maverick, that voted often with the Liberals. The second he was the party nominee, and up against Barack? He was some old wrinkly white guy, overly militaristic, and stuck in an old era. The same happened with Romney this time: “Oh, he’s so Reasonable, he worked with Democrats in a liberal New England state, he’s so charming, and friendly.” Post Nomination: “He’s an ultraconservative Religious nut case, and supporter of big businesses”.

I’ll borrow a certain ski instructor meme out there on the internet:
“If you’re going to keep trying to become best friends with the MSM, You’re gona have a bad time!”.

Skip these useful liberal idiots, and communicate directly to the American people. It’s not hard in the Internet age. Let the Citizens ask you the tough questions. Let the people decide who we want, not some Establishment people looking at a bunch of numbers and the MSM.

I agree with what Jindal is trying to say.

The biggest problem with GOP this time was that it failed to explain how free market policies help individual middle class Americans. More often than not their defense of free market was exactly what many in this board is describing:

The rich guy worked for his wealth and nobody should be able to take it away from him.

While conservatism should advocate that, a middle class guy gains nothing from this aspect of conservative policies.

What conservatives should have emphasized was the policies that makes republicans the party of upward mobility.

A good example is how repubs dealt with the occupy movement. Instead of arguing with them about sharing rich peoples’ wealth (which is simply fighting in their turf), repubs should have spent their effort pointing out how Obama’s policies were making a bunch of people so desperate and hopeless that they were going around occupying things. Repubs should have used occupy as an example of how Obama was killing the American dream – American dream of those hippies. Again I am not saying that they would agree with you, but the common people would.

CoolAir on November 14, 2012 at 12:09 AM

Yup. It wasn’t the message. It was that it wasn’t communicated well.

Reagan and Newt communicated it well to the electorate. Because they believed it all deep down in their souls.

Romney accepted it later and to be pragmatic and get the nomination. He isn’t a total liberal or moderate, but Romney wasn’t a real conservative at heart and he had a moderate record.

Romney’s tremendous wealth was simply bad optics this year. As well as his Romneycare a year when Obamacare should have been front and center along with jobs. (Even with a few differences, the principal of both health plans was the same.)

And have conservatism and anti Obamacare/Romneycare articulated well from the heart of a real conservative.

That’s what Jindal was talking about. The communication. Getting the real and successful conservative message out for EVERYONE, like
Reagan and Newt did. It changed the face of this country the years they won.

It can happen again, even if we are now damaged by 8 years of Obama and Republican moderates and cowards.

Will it happen? That’s the question.

but a Jindal would be perfect. He was always my first pick. He feels conservatism in his heart, articulates it well and has a successful record of it. (again, I’m sure he isn’t a perfect conservative in every inch of his record. None are. Even Sarah. Even Reagan. lol)

Social cons don’t have to change their tune about homosexuality, but they DO need to drop the national ban-gay-marriage amendment pushing. Opinions are changing on this, like it or not, and you won’t win any converts at all by being overbearing. This needs to remain a state-by-state issue, just like pot, prostitution and gambling. Let’s get back to the states being a laboratory for good ideas and an isolator of bad ideas, and let people pick and choose what kind of government they want.

The biggest problem with GOP this time was that it failed to explain how free market policies help individual middle class Americans. More often than not their defense of free market was exactly what many in this board is describing:

The rich guy worked for his wealth and nobody should be able to take it away from him.

While conservatism should advocate that, a middle class guy gains nothing from this aspect of conservative policies.

What conservatives should have emphasized was the policies that makes republicans the party of upward mobility.

A good example is how repubs dealt with the occupy movement. Instead of arguing with them about sharing rich peoples’ wealth (which is simply fighting in their turf), repubs should have spent their effort pointing out how Obama’s policies were making a bunch of people so desperate and hopeless that they were going around occupying things. Repubs should have used occupy as an example of how Obama was killing the American dream – American dream of those hippies. Again I am not saying that they would agree with you, but the common people would.

Everyone ought to keep their own toys, you dipstick Jindal.

AshleyTKing on November 13, 2012 at 9:12 PM

If we’re going to play identity politics, this is the demographic to go for.

Another thing is that too many irreligious Republicans think that they have to wear their lack of religion as a badge of honor and that their candidates must do the same.

BTW, most evangelicals voted for the dramatically non-evangelical Romney.

itsnotaboutme on November 13, 2012 at 8:13 PM

Ignorance again.. to state you have faith is one thing. To impose that belief through government is violation of everything Madison believed.

I am a conservative but that doesn’t mean I impose my values through governmental interference.

Another thing is that too many religious Republicans think that they have to wear their religion as a badge of honor and that their candidates must do the same.

Another thing is that too many irreligious Republicans think that they have to wear their lack of religion as a badge of honor and that their candidates must do the same.

BTW, most evangelicals voted for the dramatically non-evangelical Romney.

I do think that christian based laws are better than sharia based. that said, what even better is secular laws. and that is the choice here. I prefer secular laws to either christian or Islamic based laws.

nathor on November 13, 2012 at 4:23 PM

So let’s enshrine “survival of the fittest” into the legal code.

Silly nathor, no one is demanding a Christian version of sharia.
Western Civilization’s values have historically been educated by Judeo-Christian values.
With what would you substitute them?