Jindal: End “dumbed-down” conservatism

posted at 1:51 pm on November 13, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

The question that every Republican — and every pundit — will ponder until the end of the year is this: what ails the GOP?  That question and its answers isn’t limited to the grassroots or the commentariat.  The next generation of Republican leaders know that they’d better have an answer if they have any hope of winning national elections in the near or long-term future.

One member of the GOP bench offered an answer in an interview today with Politico:

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal on Monday called on Republicans to “stop being the stupid party” and make a concerted effort to reach a broader swath of voters with an inclusive economic message that pre-empts efforts to caricature the GOP as the party of the rich. …

“We’ve got to make sure that we are not the party of big business, big banks, big Wall Street bailouts, big corporate loopholes, big anything,” Jindal told POLITICO in a 45-minute telephone interview. “We cannot be, we must not be, the party that simply protects the rich so they get to keep their toys.”

He was just as blunt on how the GOP should speak to voters, criticizing his party for offending and speaking down to much of the electorate.

“It is no secret we had a number of Republicans damage our brand this year with offensive, bizarre comments — enough of that,” Jindal said. “It’s not going to be the last time anyone says something stupid within our party, but it can’t be tolerated within our party. We’ve also had enough of this dumbed-down conservatism. We need to stop being simplistic, we need to trust the intelligence of the American people and we need to stop insulting the intelligence of the voters.”

Jindal also said that “Simply being the anti-Obama party didn’t work.  You can’t beat something with nothing.”  That certainly proved to be the case last week.  Many Republicans figured that the economic malaise and the lack of any vision of a second term from Obama would doom him with voters, but we ended up getting stuck in our own blind spot where Obama is concerned.

As I wrote after the election, we can’t allow ourselves to fall into the trap of being mainly an oppositional party — being defined by what we’re against rather than what we’re for.  We have to have a clear, positive agenda aimed at communicating specific policies that will improve the lives of voters in demonstrable ways.  Too often, we offer philosophical slogans about economic policies without offering nuts-and-bolts solutions to back them up.  That requires going into hostile political ground — especially in urban areas, where we fare the worst in national elections — and offer specific free-market-based policies to solve real problems for people whom Democrats can take for granted now.  That is the most direct route to defusing the claim that the GOP is nothing but the party of the rich.

Where our values demand a firm stance, we need to maintain it — but we need to get better at communicating those values, too.  Todd Akin derailed the GOP’s pro-life message, and so did Richard Mourdock to a lesser extent.  We need candidates who can communicate better and make sure that campaigns remain focused on those core values and specific policy agendas that will improve the lives of all voters.

If the Republican Party is to have a renaissance, it will have to be led by Jindal and the other Republicans of his rank in the next few years.  Hopefully, the message will resonate within the party.

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We have to have a clear, positive agenda aimed at communicating specific policies that will improve the lives of voters in demonstrable ways. Too often, we offer philosophical slogans about economic policies without offering nuts-and-bolts solutions to back them up.

Democrats runs all out hostile psy-ops war.

Why not copy that? It works.

Why play nice?

the_nile on November 13, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Keep your ‘stupid’ GOP. Bye, “Bobby”!

Sir Napsalot on November 13, 2012 at 1:55 PM

He’s right. That “47%” includes a lot of married, working class families who take the child tax credits. The Republican message this year did not really even try to speak to their concerns.

AngusMc on November 13, 2012 at 1:56 PM

“We cannot be, we must not be, the party that simply protects the rich so they get to keep their toys.”

Jindal is buying in to this crap?

One more off the list.

Jindal

portlandon on November 13, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Heh, the party is full of idiots.

There goes Bobby.

Schadenfreude on November 13, 2012 at 1:57 PM

I hope he never gets asked on the campaign trail about exorcisms.

And why does “defending free market capitalism” translate into “defending the rich” ??

Most people out there defending economic liberty are not rich.

Joseph Russo III on November 13, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal on Monday called on Republicans to “stop being the stupid party” and make a concerted effort to reach a broader swath of voters with an inclusive economic message that pre-empts efforts to caricature the GOP as the party of the rich. …

“We’ve got to make sure that we are not the party of big business, big banks, big Wall Street bailouts, big corporate loopholes, big anything,” Jindal told POLITICO in a 45-minute telephone interview. “We cannot be, we must not be, the party that simply protects the rich so they get to keep their toys.”

He was just as blunt on how the GOP should speak to voters, criticizing his party for offending and speaking down to much of the electorate.

“It is no secret we had a number of Republicans damage our brand this year with offensive, bizarre comments — enough of that,” Jindal said. “It’s not going to be the last time anyone says something stupid within our party, but it can’t be tolerated within our party. We’ve also had enough of this dumbed-down conservatism. We need to stop being simplistic, we need to trust the intelligence of the American people and we need to stop insulting the intelligence of the voters.”

Jindal is forgetting one key ingredient for electoral success…..Whomever controls the media (ABC/CBS/NYT/WAPO/Yahoo/Reuters/AP/etc.) will be able to DEMONIZE the other party.

It doesn’t matter if the gop nominates JESUS CHRIST. He would be depicted as “INTOLERANT”, “narrow minded”, “out of the mainstream”, “extreme” and “angry”.

Face it folks………it’s TEATERTIME in America.

Find a warm one, latch on and enjoy sucking until it runs out. That Federal Sow is going to be getting dry pretty soon.

PappyD61 on November 13, 2012 at 1:57 PM

I think the last elections shows that we need to dumb down more issues.

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El_Terrible on November 13, 2012 at 1:58 PM

We need to cave on amnesty (so the GOP’s big money donors can keep their cheap labor) while fighting to the death to protect millionaires from having their taxes raised a single penny. That will help us get back those white working class voters who stayed home.

Jon0815 on November 13, 2012 at 1:58 PM

As I wrote after the election, we can’t allow ourselves to fall into the trap of being mainly an oppositional party — being defined by what we’re against rather than what we’re for. We have to have a clear, positive agenda aimed at communicating specific policies that will improve the lives of voters in demonstrable ways.

Are you prepared to go into housing projects and inner cities with the message?

Joseph Russo III on November 13, 2012 at 1:58 PM

Ronald Reagan weeps in his grave at such stupidity, among the older and the bench.

Rs are the same harlots as are the Ds.

Schadenfreude on November 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM

The left have to be loving this complete and total meltdown.

Kataklysmic on November 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Specific policies are offered, but they’re demagogued relentlessly by the Left and their allies in the media. Romney talked about wanting to lower tax rates for everyone in order to jumpstart growth….that was attacked as favoring tax cuts for the rich.

changer1701 on November 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Gotta depress the dem vote with going after their elitist cronyism

Mormontheman on November 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Is Jindal also on the amnesty bandwagon or has he sold out too?

JPeterman on November 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM

One of the best fiscal conservative minds knows why we lost.

Thomas Sowell: Romney Just Another Nice, Moderate Republican Loser

portlandon on November 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM

We need to stop being simplistic, we need to trust the intelligence of the American people and we need to stop insulting the intelligence of the voters.

Oh. Was this Romney’s problem???

Dongemaharu on November 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM

derka derka free stuff derka derka allah akbar

El_Terrible on November 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM

It’s not going to be the last time anyone says something stupid within our party, but it can’t be tolerated within our party. We’ve also had enough of this dumbed-down conservatism.

It wasn’t ‘tolerated’, and we still lost.

The left has much, much crazier loons than we do, and they win their elections (fake Indians, fake war heroes Kerry).

What we have is a bunch of really, really bad politicians (like Jindal) and pundits.

RINOs are 0 for the last 3 elections.

Enough is enough.

faraway on November 13, 2012 at 2:00 PM

“We cannot be, we must not be, the party that simply protects the rich so they get to keep their toys.”

Jindal is buying in to this crap?

One more off the list.

Jindal

portlandon on November 13, 2012 at 1:57 PM

He’s even more wrong too, Obama let rich crooks like Jon Corzine keep his toys.

AND THEY WON!!

the_nile on November 13, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Jindal also said that “Simply being the anti-Obama party didn’t work. You can’t beat something with nothing.”

Look, I respect Bobby Jindal as a governor and a person, but I think he’s assuming everything the Democrat/media complex says about the GOP is true. Romney/Ryan DID offer the American people a stark contrast with Obama(except in the foreign policy debate, but that didn’t decide this election). On reducing the budget, they offered specifics. Same on tax reform. Same with energy policy. Obviously repealing Obamacare and Dodd-Frank was a centerpiece of their campaign, but it’s not like they stopped there.

Obama ran on literally nothing of substance and won. That’s not Mitt Romney’s fault. Now could our side have gone after Obama’s record a lot harder and showed not only why he was responsible for our current economic malaise, but also warned everyone where we’d end up after another 4 years? Certainly. But I resent this insinuation that we offered a message of “Obama sucks!” and nothing else.

Doughboy on November 13, 2012 at 2:00 PM

“We cannot be, we must not be, the party that simply protects the rich so they get to keep their toys.”

Jindal is buying in to this crap?

One more off the list.

Jindal

portlandon on November 13, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Oookaaay! So we know who the 2016 candidate will NOT be.

tom on November 13, 2012 at 2:01 PM

So we’re too racist, homophobic, sexist, and fiscally conservative to win. Cool. So, what’s the new party platform, “moderates?”

Doomberg on November 13, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Gotta depress the dem vote with going after their elitist cronyism

Mormontheman on November 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Let all Bush tax cuts expire, then take the battle to Santa Claus’ workshop.

El_Terrible on November 13, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Call me selfish.

Me and mine.

MontanaMmmm on November 13, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Is Jindal talking about the perception of the GOP as the party of the rich, or is he saying it ‘is’ the party of the rich?

I don’t trust Politico’s reporting.

Mitsouko on November 13, 2012 at 2:02 PM

The phony conservatives are folding like cheap suits.

The GOP continues to pick our candidates for Pres, we continue to lose.

It’s time to let the conservatives pick a candidate.

Romney, please??? McCain, please??? Dole, please???

stenwin77 on November 13, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Oookaaay! So we know who the 2016 candidate will NOT be.

tom on November 13, 2012 at 2:01 PM

I don’t think he ever had a prayer. Politics is about image and Jindal is a lanky, weird-looking dude. I used to think he could compensate for that with his brains, but those are in question now based on this idiotic little rant of his.

Doughboy on November 13, 2012 at 2:03 PM

We need to stop being simplistic, we need to trust the intelligence of the American people and we need to stop insulting the intelligence of the voters.

Bobbi, my Bobbi, the people are choosing socialism. A little here, a little there, and for a terrifying number of them, the whole package. The problem with the Republican party is that it hasn’t been socialistic. There is no messaging problem, no lack of information. Too many people want something else.

. . . can’t find my asbestos underwear . . .

Axe on November 13, 2012 at 2:03 PM

I think the last elections shows that we need to dumb down more issues.

Derka derka free derka condoms derka derka

El_Terrible on November 13, 2012 at 1:58 PM

+1. It’s not the economy; it’s the stupid, stupid. Whoever appeals to the most stupid people wins, so Repubs–second look at the “Stupid Party?”

Christien on November 13, 2012 at 2:04 PM

…..and wait until companies find out what kind of savings they can achieve by offloading their employees onto this Federal plan.

And have you heard about the subsidies if your income is under $92,200?

Once people stop paying $15,000 or $20,000 a year for family coverage and can just pay the fine or the employer will save $$$$ it’s going to be party time in America. Sure the healthcare will be crapola and you might die, or the HHS secretary might end treatment for you but at least your premiums will be less.

TEATERMERICA………forward!

And Jindal is just pipe-dreaming if he thinks he’s going to be anything but another demonized republican by the media. Therefore, we’ll never get another Conservative nominee until the party is ready to tell the media to go Beyonce themselves.

PappyD61 on November 13, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Let all Bush tax cuts expire, then take the battle to Santa Claus’ workshop.

El_Terrible on November 13, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Let it burn.

the_nile on November 13, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Save the Republican Party.

Or save the Republic.

Now choose.

Shy Guy on November 13, 2012 at 2:04 PM

The phony conservatives are folding like cheap suits.

stenwin77 on November 13, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Tuesday is Fake Conservative Coming Out Day. Who’s next?

faraway on November 13, 2012 at 2:05 PM

We need to stop being simplistic, we need to trust the intelligence of the American people and we need to stop insulting the intelligence of the voters.
Oh. Was this Romney’s problem???

Dongemaharu on November 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Romney trusted the American voters. This is why he ran a campaign centered on the economy.

Joseph Russo III on November 13, 2012 at 2:05 PM

In fact, the Republican base and conservatives are more informed than ever before… ever! We have access to more information and have the ability to validate that information in ways our forefathers never dreamed of. Dear Governor Bobby, please stay in Louisiana and play with your pet crawfish.

WordsMatter on November 13, 2012 at 2:06 PM

He’s right about the stupid part. It’s not as though abortion is a new issue. Nothing much has changed about it since the beginning of time, certainly not since Roe v. Wade 40 years ago. How can a Republican Senate candidate be caught off guard by a question about abortion in 2012? The RNC needs to have a script, and make every candidate receiving funds demonstrate that they have it memorized. It’s ridiculous to be making those kinds of unforced errors.

Progressive Heretic on November 13, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Is Jindal also on the amnesty bandwagon or has he sold out too?

JPeterman on November 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Article says he avoided answering when asked about it.

Jon0815 on November 13, 2012 at 2:06 PM

“We cannot be, we must not be, the party that simply protects the rich so they get to keep their toys.”

We never were that party. The MSM won’t stop lying about us, but we are under no obligation to accept their false picture of us.

Stay the course. I want to hear just one GOP politician say we’re still right, and the work we need to do is to convince people of that.

Seriously, does an adverse vote, by 61 million (or fewer) people who happened to make it to the polls in 2012, make something wrong? Is that how we decide what’s right and wrong?

If you think we do, you’re everything that’s needed to be a successful slave.

J.E. Dyer on November 13, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Jindal is buying in to this crap?

One more off the list.

Jindal

portlandon on November 13, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Pretty soon you & Jelly Toast will be the only ones left. Maybe you can be President and he can be VP.

lostmotherland on November 13, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Why play nice?

the_nile on November 13, 2012 at 1:55 PM

What would GOP psyops look like? What sort of caricature would you create? Would it be something along the lines of, “Social Security is Communism”?

ernesto on November 13, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Jindal:

We need to stop being simplistic, we need to trust the intelligence of the American people and we need to stop insulting the intelligence of the voters.”

Sorry, Bobby. Thanks to decades of abysmal public education and the “gimme what’s mine” mentality, that ain’t gonna work. We’ve passed the tipping point in America. It’s gonna take the total collapse of the welfare state for the leeches to understand exactly what they voted for…

Common Sense Floridian on November 13, 2012 at 2:07 PM

OMG, Bobby Jindal said he was concerned about the middle class. That means he’s not a true conservative and we need to purge him!!! OMG OMG!

AngusMc on November 13, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Why, when their Moderate Presidential Candidate was defeated, is the GOP turning to more “Moderatism”?

kingsjester on November 13, 2012 at 2:07 PM

The electorat voted on muppets, vajayjays and a hurrican named Sandy. And Jindal thinks that our problem was “dumbed-down conservatism”? Governor, do you usually drink a lot?

Valkyriepundit on November 13, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Thank the Lord I’m old. Maybe I’ll be dead by the time the country has completely collapsed.

But it’s the yung uns and the grandkids I’m concerned about. They have to live here longer.

Thank you republicans………you couldn’t poor piss out of an electoral boot if you had too.

PappyD61 on November 13, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Big Bird

forest on November 13, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Weird Al – Dare To Be Stupid

Put down that chainsaw and listen to me
It’s time for us to join in the fight
It’s time to let your babies grow up to be cowboys
It’s time to let the bedbugs bite

You better put all your eggs in one basket
You better count your chickens before they hatch
You better sell some wine before it’s time
You better find yourself an itch to scratch

You better squeeze all the Charmin you can
while Mr. Wipple’s not around
Stick your head in the microwave and get yourself a tan

Talk with your mouth full
Bite the hand that feeds you
Bite off more than you can chew
What can you do
Dare to be stupid

Christien on November 13, 2012 at 2:07 PM

I think the last elections shows that we need to dumb down more issues.

Derka derka free derka condoms derka derka

El_Terrible on November 13, 2012 at 1:58 PM

+1. It’s not the economy; it’s the stupid, stupid. Whoever appeals to the most stupid people wins, so Repubs–second look at the “Stupid Party?”

Christien on November 13, 2012 at 2:04 PM

No. We didn’t even try to defend some of the issues. The ones who are stupid are those in the GOP leadership.

Romney got less votes than McCain. Now those people shouldn’t have stayed home or done whatever they did, but I don’t think that if Obama didn’t fool them in 2008 that he managed to do so 4 years later. To my way of thinking it’s more like they weren’t sure if they’d be sold out again by the GOP.

INC on November 13, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Republican/independents who are upset about liberal media bias should boycott liberal media outlets such as: Comcast – owner of NBC News and MSNBC, Disney – owner of ABC News…

philrat on November 13, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Yes, let’s copy “Vote your lady parts”.

Of course, I’ve been hoping for a legitimate third party, Tea Party for years, just to get away from the suggestion that we’re just cheerleaders for the rich. Of course, a good analysis of this might just require some analysis of how the two richest men in America vote (Dem) and who won 8 of the 10 richest districts (Obama), rather than reacting–and validating–straw men.

Axeman on November 13, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Is Jindal talking about the perception of the GOP as the party of the rich, or is he saying it ‘is’ the party of the rich?

I don’t trust Politico’s reporting.

Mitsouko on November 13, 2012 at 2:02 PM

It’s hard to say based on this excerpt:

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal on Monday called on Republicans to “stop being the stupid party” and make a concerted effort to reach a broader swath of voters with an inclusive economic message that pre-empts efforts to caricature the GOP as the party of the rich. …

“We’ve got to make sure that we are not the party of big business, big banks, big Wall Street bailouts, big corporate loopholes, big anything,” Jindal told POLITICO in a 45-minute telephone interview. “We cannot be, we must not be, the party that simply protects the rich so they get to keep their toys.”

If Jindal is just saying we have to fight the perception that the GOP is the party of the rich, ok I’m with him there. In fact, that’s one reason I want Boehner and McConnell to give Obama his stupid tax hikes. So that talking point for the Dems goes away.

Now if on the other hand Jindal literally means we ARE the party of big business and big banks who are only looking out for the rich, well then he’s lost me for good. He may as well go over in the corner and hang out with Chris CRISTie, cuz they’ve both gone off the reservation.

Doughboy on November 13, 2012 at 2:08 PM

We need to stop being simplistic, we need to trust the intelligence of the American people and we need to stop insulting the intelligence of the voters.

[swearing goes here] — Why do people say this kind of thing on Monday and then tell me on Tuesday to treat all Americans of Mexican descent as racists that don’t want the border closed because the people running it have similar hair?

Are voters stupid or not? Are we supposed to manipulate them as groups or talk to them as adults? Make up your flippin’ minds.

Axe on November 13, 2012 at 2:09 PM

The Ultimate RINO candidate lost.

Now RINOs now want to kill their base.

Who’s stupid?

faraway on November 13, 2012 at 2:09 PM

“We’ve also had enough of this dumbed-down conservatism.” – A quote from Ronald Reagan never ever.

WordsMatter on November 13, 2012 at 2:09 PM

We don’t need tired old unprincipled RINO hacks like Snowe, Lugar, Tommy Thompson or George Allen.

Wethal on November 13, 2012 at 2:09 PM

The electorat voted on muppets, vajayjays and a hurrican named Sandy. And Jindal thinks that our problem was “dumbed-down conservatism”? Governor, do you usually drink a lot?

Valkyriepundit on November 13, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Indeed.

Axeman on November 13, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Jindal’s talk to Politico covered every angle: class, gender, race.

Plus he also threw in ‘intelligence’ as a bonus.

Sir Napsalot on November 13, 2012 at 2:10 PM

He’s right about the stupid part. It’s not as though abortion is a new issue. Nothing much has changed about it since the beginning of time, certainly not since Roe v. Wade 40 years ago. How can a Republican Senate candidate be caught off guard by a question about abortion in 2012? The RNC needs to have a script, and make every candidate receiving funds demonstrate that they have it memorized. It’s ridiculous to be making those kinds of unforced errors.

Progressive Heretic on November 13, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Did voters actually believe that Romney and Republicans would overturn Roe v. Wade or “outlaw abortion” and birth control?

If so, how do you reach these people? They obviously have no clue.

Joseph Russo III on November 13, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal on Monday called on Republicans to “stop being the stupid party” and make a concerted effort to reach a broader swath of voters with an inclusive economic message that pre-empts efforts to caricature the GOP as the party of the rich. …

STOP BASHING JINDAL!!!

Read his words for goodness sake, don’t just jump all over him.

Mitsouko on November 13, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Hey, Romney’s not to blame, the people who supported Romney, made contributions to his campaign, canvassed for him, and attended his rallys, yeah, they’re to blame.

WordsMatter on November 13, 2012 at 2:10 PM

If Jindal is just saying we have to fight the perception that the GOP is the party of the rich, ok I’m with him there. In fact, that’s one reason I want Boehner and McConnell to give Obama his stupid tax hikes. So that talking point for the Dems goes away.

I think he’s saying that Romney did not help matters when his response to “What will you do to help middle class families?” was “We are going to reduce the investment taxes on capital gains and dividends.” The vast majority of middle class families have little or zero capital gains or dividends.

AngusMc on November 13, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Actually, I/’m done wit the GOP. I was Tea Party this time, but I’m done with that now too. I’m more like The Second American Revolution Party now.

MikeA on November 13, 2012 at 2:11 PM

OMG, Bobby Jindal said he was concerned about the middle class. That means he’s not a true conservative and we need to purge him!!! OMG OMG!

AngusMc on November 13, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Yes! Yes! Purge!

Look. The bedrock of conservatism is people keeping their money, and spending it on what they want because we know how to spend our money better than the Government.

Class warfare is a big No no in the Republican Party. Up until Today I guess.

Now read this quote from Jindal:

“We cannot be, we must not be, the party that simply protects the rich so they get to keep their toys.”

If this doesn’t seen a shiver down your spine, I don’t know what will.

portlandon on November 13, 2012 at 2:11 PM

This country and its politicans have become a bad joke

ChunkyLover on November 13, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Calling on the GOP to be “the party of ideas, details and intelligent solutions,” the Louisianan urged the party to “stop reducing everything to mindless slogans, tag lines, 30-second ads that all begin to sound the same. “

The GOP leadership are the ones doing this. Call on them to defend their platform. The Republican Platform is in reality very conservative. We do have something to beat the Democrats with. Why GOP leadership pretends that we don’t is ridiculous.

http://www.gop.com/2012-republican-platform_home/

INC on November 13, 2012 at 2:12 PM

What comes AFTER Republican?

Are they accepting new members?

portlandon on November 13, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Is Jindal also on the amnesty bandwagon or has he sold out too?

JPeterman on November 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Today he is for redistribution and amnesty, and tomorrow he will be pro-abortion. And Ed will agree with him. The message is clear: if you can’t beat them, join them.

Gelsomina on November 13, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Article says he avoided answering when asked about it.

Jon0815 on November 13, 2012 at 2:06 PM

In other words, he’s also on the amnesty bandwagon.

JPeterman on November 13, 2012 at 2:14 PM

“We cannot be, we must not be, the party that simply protects the rich so they get to keep their toys.”

If this doesn’t seen a shiver down your spine, I don’t know what will.

portlandon on November 13, 2012 at 2:11 PM

It does.

Thanks Boobi.

CycloneCDB on November 13, 2012 at 2:14 PM

A few good points. Actually, the GOP primary where Reagan won the nomination was a love fest among candidates.

There were no…

Moats with alligators

Tardasil

Vulture Capitalism

Kermit on November 13, 2012 at 2:14 PM

What would GOP psyops look like? What sort of caricature would you create? Would it be something along the lines of, “Social Security is Communism”?

ernesto on November 13, 2012 at 2:06 PM

I’m thinking variants of “You have nothing to fear from an Obama Presidency”.

the_nile on November 13, 2012 at 2:14 PM

My granddad worked 14 hour days for 70 years for his toys.

The “toys” raw land converted by hard work into productive fram and ranch land.

The “goverment took its share every hour he worked”.

He died and his offsprind had to pay taxes (death taxes) to keep his toys.

They worked only 12 hours a day for 70 years, and the Govt. had its hand in the till the whole time. That and govt. reg. ect. made it harder and harder to make a few new toys (tractors and fences) to make the the land make a living.

Now comes this fool calling me and my family rich and lazy.

Screw him.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 13, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Just let the damned fiscal cliff hit. Let the 47% 50.6% start footing some of the bill for their welfare state and the Democratic majority will collapse.

You’ll be amazed at the gains the GOP will make once people start seeing the bills for the Democrats’ spending spree.

SAMinVA on November 13, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Jindal is the man. I’ve lived in Louisiana and of all the modern-day people out there I think he’s the closest to Reagan’s message.

itsspideyman on November 13, 2012 at 2:15 PM

If this doesn’t seen a shiver down your spine, I don’t know what will.

portlandon on November 13, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Did you actually read the whole article? He is talking about changing the perception of the GOP as the party of the rich, not saying they ARE the party of the rich.

Crikey, we’re a touchy lot these days.

Mitsouko on November 13, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Question for RINOs: If we purge the millions of socons, who do we replace them with?

faraway on November 13, 2012 at 2:15 PM

LOL.

Keep insisting that there is no difference between R and D; keep lying to yourself that they are two parties.

Dante on November 13, 2012 at 2:15 PM

We need to cave on amnesty (so the GOP’s big money donors can keep their cheap labor) while fighting to the death to protect millionaires from having their taxes raised a single penny. That will help us get back those white working class voters who stayed home.

Jon0815 on November 13, 2012 at 1:58 PM

+1000

rockmom on November 13, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Conservatives shouldn’t purge Rinos from the Republican party. We should purge ourselves from it.

Kataklysmic on November 13, 2012 at 2:16 PM

How did Jindal win in LA? Was part of it because “Stupid” finally became painful enough, post-Katrina? When Stupid hurts enough, it seems to have a clarifying, salutary effect among voters.

Christien on November 13, 2012 at 2:17 PM

Now if on the other hand Jindal literally means we ARE the party of big business and big banks who are only looking out for the rich, well then he’s lost me for good. He may as well go over in the corner and hang out with Chris CRISTie, cuz they’ve both gone off the reservation.

Doughboy on November 13, 2012 at 2:08 PM

I think this is probably a coordinated effort by the GOP leadership to stampede the party into lining up behind them for amnesty and tax/spending increases (and implicitly, lining up behind Obama). It reminds me of the one overwhelming “day of bad news” that largely collapsed the Gingrich campaign in Florida.

I’m expecting a steady wave of GOP pundits and “star” politicans throughout the week pounding home the viewpoint that the GOP lost because it is too racist, sexist, homophobic, and fiscally conservative. Hopefully this will stop by Friday and we can get some honest analysis of the loss next week, instead of craven attempts to stampede the conservatives into minting 11+ million new Democrat voters.

Doomberg on November 13, 2012 at 2:17 PM

o/t: Rand Paul now on the “path to citizenship” bandwagon.

Kataklysmic on November 13, 2012 at 2:10 PM

RAND PAUL!?!?!?!? WTF!!!!!!!

El_Terrible on November 13, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Conservatives shouldn’t purge Rinos from the Republican party. We should purge ourselves from it.

Kataklysmic on November 13, 2012 at 2:16 PM

It may be one of the things they are successful at getting us to do.

MontanaMmmm on November 13, 2012 at 2:19 PM

“We’ve also had enough of this dumbed-down conservatism.” – A quote from Ronald Reagan never ever.

WordsMatter on November 13, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Wanting to engage people with our ideas is something I agree with. It’s just that in context, I’m not sure what that phrase really means. You can’t say that (and mean what I want it to mean) and say this in the same conversation:

“We cannot be, we must not be, the party that simply protects the rich so they get to keep their toys.”

– without being a hypocrite or an idiot. Talk about dumbing-down. Jindal’s never been either, so maybe it’s just a wide-eyed, panic-filled day.

Axe on November 13, 2012 at 2:20 PM

“We are all Democrats now.”

WordsMatter on November 13, 2012 at 2:20 PM

“We cannot be, we must not be, the party that simply protects the rich so they get to keep their toys.”

If this doesn’t seen a shiver down your spine, I don’t know what will.

portlandon on November 13, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Agreed. Either he’s bought into the media narrative on that, or he honestly doesn’t know why we object to raising those rates. Either way, it’s disturbing.

Bottom line is the GOP will cave on raising taxes on the “wealthy”. The writing is on the wall. We might get some cust in return, but they’ll be meaningless and do nothing to address the spending problem DC has.Can officially kicked down the road, in other words. But I hope all these people whining about Big Bird realize that when the stuff really hits the fan a lot more than PBS subsidies will need to go.

changer1701 on November 13, 2012 at 2:20 PM

Bobby Jindall WAS in charge of the republican party and it’s image as the head of the party in his own state.

Who knows what was going on down there in LA?

“You can’t beat something with nothing.”

?

It was Bobby Jindal’s responsibility to get the GOP to the polls, who is he blaming Mitt Romney? Romney had a splendid campaign, which Jindall knew could not go to 50 states. And Jindall’s state did not need extra campaigning so no campaigning was spent in his state. But he could have put on anything that he wanted.

Jindall could have put the campaign rallies on a screen and served drinks and popcorn to make people “feel good.” As far as I know, LA voted for Romney, how is that Nothing?

Fleuries on November 13, 2012 at 2:20 PM

RAND PAUL!?!?!?!? WTF!!!!!!!

El_Terrible on November 13, 2012 at 2:18 PM

See my post above. There is clearly a major effort underway by the GOP leadership to force the base to submit to amnesty and tax/spending increases. You’re going to see betrayal after betrayal this week by people you though were rock solid.

Third party time, folks. The GOP is now useless to oppose socialism. Let it disappear into the ash heap of history alongside the Whigs.

Doomberg on November 13, 2012 at 2:20 PM

Oh brother, c’mon now. Let’s face it, the Republicans put a guy up against Obama who couldn’t win against the guy that Obama beat the first time around. Did we really think we were going to win based on ‘anybody but Obama’? And, I do believe we already tried this strategy of being more like the Democrats in order to win elections by nominating McCain and Romney. How’s that working for us? There’s one ruling class. Elections are just dog and pony show.

Cpoy2 on November 13, 2012 at 2:20 PM

Sick and effing tired of hearing carping about how we need to stop insulting the intelligence of the voter.

The intelligence of the Free Sh!t Army you mean?

The intelligence of the 12% or so who didn’t even pay attention until the week of the election?

The intelligence of those on the right who bought into the Democrat assault on Romney and stayed home, even thought the most cursory examination of data would have shown the Democrat line as the shinola it was?

We’ve tried messaging. Simple math didn’t work. Facts didn’t work. Taking the high road didn’t work. The effing unemployment rate and Sh!tty economy didn’t work. The debt bomb falling on our kids didn’t work. Scandals didn’t matter. Broken campaign promises from Obama were ignored. The deaths of Americans overseas ands the associated cover-up were excused and obfuscated. The coming higher taxes on everyone – not just the rich – don’t matter. The gutting of our national defense is irrelevant. The spending and growth of government were justified and in fact, hailed as necessary for the sake of the country? Excuses abound, continue in fact. No one cares.

Now the prevailing attitude is to capitulate and try to out liberal the liberals.

Eff that.

catmman on November 13, 2012 at 2:21 PM

I think this is probably a coordinated effort by the GOP leadership to stampede the party into lining up behind them for amnesty and tax/spending increases (and implicitly, lining up behind Obama). It reminds me of the one overwhelming “day of bad news” that largely collapsed the Gingrich campaign in Florida.

I’m expecting a steady wave of GOP pundits and “star” politicans throughout the week pounding home the viewpoint that the GOP lost because it is too racist, sexist, homophobic, and fiscally conservative. Hopefully this will stop by Friday and we can get some honest analysis of the loss next week, instead of craven attempts to stampede the conservatives into minting 11+ million new Democrat voters.

Doomberg on November 13, 2012 at 2:17 PM

Yup.

the_nile on November 13, 2012 at 2:21 PM

o/t: Rand Paul now on the “path to citizenship” bandwagon.

Kataklysmic on November 13, 2012 at 2:10 PM

On immigration, Paul hopes to work across the aisle for a plan that includes an “eventual path” to citizenship for illegal immigrants. He thinks he can put together a proposal that conservatives will accept.

I swear, these people live in an alternate universe(or Washington DC as it’s known by many). We have 23 million Americans unemployed or underemployed with the number growing by the day now that Obamacare is guaranteed to be implemented in just over a year. And these idiots want to add as many as 20 million new citizens into the workforce. Not to mention the welfare rolls which are already at the brink.

I’m praying to the Almighty that the House GOP remains steadfast in this. If they cave on amnesty, we don’t even need to wait til the end of Obama’s 2nd term for the collapse.

Doughboy on November 13, 2012 at 2:21 PM

In other words, he’s also on the amnesty bandwagon.

JPeterman on November 13, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Not necessarily, maybe he does not want to add to the ‘gotcha’ style of Politico reporting, adding to the perception of the GOP as the party of stupid.

Mitsouko on November 13, 2012 at 2:21 PM

The Left and RINOs are in agreement. They are both trying to split the Right.

faraway on November 13, 2012 at 2:21 PM

Wasn’t Jindal the guy who supported Perry??? And NOW he wants to tell us we can’t have “dumbed down” conservatism any more??
Es tu Brutus!

camaraderie on November 13, 2012 at 2:21 PM

Romney failed to make the sale. Romney did not use the tool given to him. Romney did not believe in conservatism, and thus could not articulate it in anything but a dumbed down version.

astonerii on November 13, 2012 at 2:21 PM

Question for RINOs: If we purge the millions of socons, who do we replace them with?

faraway on November 13, 2012 at 2:15 PM

independents, moderates, conservative democrats, Republicans in Massachusetts.

or something

Joseph Russo III on November 13, 2012 at 2:21 PM

My granddad worked 14 hour days for 70 years for his toys.

The “toys” raw land converted by hard work into productive fram and ranch land.

The “goverment took its share every hour he worked”.

He died and his offsprind had to pay taxes (death taxes) to keep his toys.

They worked only 12 hours a day for 70 years, and the Govt. had its hand in the till the whole time. That and govt. reg. ect. made it harder and harder to make a few new toys (tractors and fences) to make the the land make a living.

Now comes this fool calling me and my family rich and lazy.

Screw him.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 13, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Do you think you have anything in common with a hedge fund trader who makes $10 million a year? A CEO of a company that makes $25 million while paying his employees minimum wage and outsourcing production to China to save a few bucks on costs, while whining about health insurance premiums?

These are the people now identified with the Republican Party, not people like you. And they are writing big checks to the GOP to keep things the way they are.

rockmom on November 13, 2012 at 2:22 PM

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