Af-Pak theater commander caught in sex scandal?

posted at 8:01 am on November 13, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

The FBI probe into the affair involving a former commander of the Afghanistan-Pakistan theater of war has apparently led to the exposure of his successor.  Reports overnight from several news sources say that investigators discovered tens of thousands of communications between General John Allen, commander of NATO forces in Afghanistan, and Jill Kelley, whose friendship with General David Petraeus allegedly triggered a bout of e-mail harassment from Petraeus’ mistress Paula Broadwell:

The FBI probe into the sex scandal that prompted CIA Director David Petraeus to resign has expanded to ensnare Gen. John R. Allen, the commander of U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan, the Pentagon announced early Tuesday.

According to a senior U.S. defense official, the FBI has uncovered between 20,000 and 30,000 documents — most of them e-mails — of “potentially inappropriate” communications between Allen and Jill Kelley, a 37-year-old Tampa woman whose close relationship with Petraeus ultimately led to his downfall.

Allen, a Marine, succeeded Petraeus as the top allied commander in Afghanistan in July 2011. He also served as Petraeus’s deputy when both generals led the military’s Tampa-based Central Command from 2008 until 2010.

The FBI first notified the Pentagon of its investigation into Allen’s communications with Kelley on Sunday evening, according to the senior defense official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss details of the pending case.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta issued a statement last night that said Allen would remain in place for now, but he was on his way out anyway.  The Senate Armed Services Committee was scheduled to take up the confirmation hearing of his successor, Marine General Joseph F. Dunford, on Thursday.  According to the Washington Post, Panetta asked Senate leadership yesterday to expedite Dunford’s confirmation, and that could happen within days.  At the same time, Panetta put a hold on Allen’s promotion to commander of all NATO forces in Europe while the investigation continues.

Allen will have fewer options than Petraeus did if this turns out to be true.  Petraeus was a civilian when his affair was discovered, and could have opted to keep his job.  An extramarital affair on active duty is another matter entirely.  The Uniform Code of Military Justice prohibits such sexual relationships, and it could result in a court-martial.

That doesn’t occur very often, but that’s not to say that it’s consequence-free, either.  Seven years ago, Army Chief of Staff Peter Schoomaker abruptly dismissed four-star General Kevin Byrnes from the service over an extramarital affair, even though Byrnes was only a few months away from retirement, and even though Byrnes and his wife had been separated for months and were in the process of divorce.  Byrnes headed the Training and Doctrine Command in Virginia, not a war theater or a strategic center such as NATO, but that probably makes it worse for Allen, not better.

Let’s hope that Jill Kelley and Paula Broadwell have never made General Dunford’s acquaintance.

Update: Maybe it’s not the money after all:

Update II: Ace Gabriel Malor at Ace’s place is aghast, not just at the cheating, but the sheer scope of the communications:

Twenty to thirty THOUSAND pages? I write for a living and I can tell you that I haven’t written twenty to thirty thousand pages in my working career. Cheese-and-crackers, that’s a damn lot of love letters. I’ve never liked anyone enough EVER to spend that much time talking to them. Eesh.

The inescapable rule of affairs just ran into the first rule of spycraft. The rule of affairs is that there is never just one. You cheat, that makes you a cheater. It never just happens once.

And the first rule of spycraft is that “Everyone (or every man) has his blond bombshell in a red Ferrari.” Translation: every idiot will let his sex drive drive.

On Twitchy, it’s been suggested that these may be captures of chat sessions, which would make more sense … but also mean that the commander of the Af-Pak theater spends a lot of time thinking about something other than victory.

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The military in Turkey was once the secular balance that kept the Islamists from taking over. Erdogan has slowly been removing secularist generals and promoting Islamists. The balance is gone.

Wethal on November 13, 2012 at 8:35 AM

And Erdogan is Obama’s best friend among foreign leaders. Ick.

ProfessorMiao on November 13, 2012 at 8:40 AM

And the Feds arrest a movie producer for a parole violation..

Electrongod on November 13, 2012 at 8:40 AM

What happened in Benghazi? Why were 4 Americans left to die?

NotCoach on November 13, 2012 at 8:31 AM

They weren’t “left” to die. State was watching it happen in real-time but did nothing. Defense waited nearly a day to send in reinforcements. And now we find out that CIA might have been detaining people in contradiction to an EO signed the first day the rat-eared wonder took office.

The more we find out about this story the more questions are raised. And the timing is fishy.

Happy Nomad on November 13, 2012 at 8:41 AM

methinks it’s just your regularly scheduled republican sex scandal, only more bizarre than usual.

sesquipedalian on November 13, 2012 at 8:20 AM

Do you have some clairvoyant power to determine political leanings? I didn’t see any reference to these clowns’ party affiliation.

Maybe i just missed it or you forgot to take your meds ….again.

belad on November 13, 2012 at 8:41 AM

As I wrote on the other thread:

It is like a coup in reverse. Instead of the generals taking out the civilian government, we may be witnessing the president taking out the generals.

Wow, cant believe I just wrote that.

esr1951 on November 13, 2012 at 7:00 AM

esr1951 on November 13, 2012 at 8:21 AM

Are we witnessing a coup?

sartana on November 13, 2012 at 8:33 AM

Yep.

esr1951 on November 13, 2012 at 8:41 AM

What happened in Benghazi? Why were 4 Americans left to die?

NotCoach on November 13, 2012 at 8:31 AM

i understand that you want your opinion leaders and movement betters to focus 100 percent on bringing down the obama administration. you think benghazi is the key to that. it isn’t.

i wish you were motivated by genuine concern for the four dead. you aren’t.

sesquipedalian on November 13, 2012 at 8:41 AM

McCain:We have nothing to fear with Barack Obama in the White House.

the_nile on November 13, 2012 at 8:42 AM

Do you have some clairvoyant power to determine political leanings? I didn’t see any reference to these clowns’ party affiliation.

Maybe i just missed it or you forgot to take your meds ….again.

belad on November 13, 2012 at 8:41 AM

Just letting his mask slip a little when it comes to his opinion of those who serve.

NotCoach on November 13, 2012 at 8:43 AM

i understand that you want your opinion leaders and movement betters to focus 100 percent on bringing down the obama administration. you think benghazi is the key to that. it isn’t.

i wish you were motivated by genuine concern for the four dead. you aren’t.

sesquipedalian on November 13, 2012 at 8:41 AM

Why were 4 Americans left to die in Benghazi?

NotCoach on November 13, 2012 at 8:44 AM

I’m sitting in the Atlanta airport right now and it is wall to wall news on the sex scandals. That they could have spent a quarter of the time on Benghazi.

hawkdriver on November 13, 2012 at 8:44 AM

i understand that you want your opinion leaders and movement betters to focus 100 percent on bringing down the obama administration. you think benghazi is the key to that. it isn’t.

i wish you were motivated by genuine concern for the four dead. you aren’t.

sesquipedalian on November 13, 2012 at 8:41 AM

They were left to die to cover up Obamas secret activities. It’s all connected.

the_nile on November 13, 2012 at 8:44 AM

Agree. We’re seeing a coup.

Skywise on November 13, 2012 at 8:44 AM

…but also mean that the commander of the Af-Pak theater spends a lot of time thinking about something other than victory.

So does the Commander-in-Chief.

Having said that, though, has anyone noticed how we’re suddenly talking about affairs and sex scandals and not Benghazi for the most part? And if we conservatives here at Hot Air are doing that, what do you think the media and the general public are focused on?

Yes, the administration has quite successfully yelled “SQUIRREL!” and distracted everyone from a potentially ruinous situation for them. Well played, Obama. Well played.

Shump on November 13, 2012 at 8:45 AM

i understand that you want your opinion leaders and movement betters to focus 100 percent on bringing down the obama administration. you think benghazi is the key to that. it isn’t.

i wish you were motivated by genuine concern for the four dead. you aren’t.

sesquipedalian on November 13, 2012 at 8:41 AM

Wow, now you make the claim that you can determine the motivation of others. This is a national security issue no matter how much you want to try to spin this as nothing but a sex scandal. It isn’t going to work because there are national security considerations.

Happy Nomad on November 13, 2012 at 8:46 AM

i wish you were motivated by genuine concern for the four dead. you aren’t.

sesquipedalian on November 13, 2012 at 8:41 AM

Obviously no one on your side is. Hypocrite.

hawkdriver on November 13, 2012 at 8:46 AM

This ‘sex scandal’ was the best thing that happened to the Benghazi story.

The Petraeus affair: A lot more than sex (CNN)

The scandal surrounding the decorated four-star Army general who once ran the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan involves questions of national security, politics and even the September 11 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, that left four Americans dead.

sharrukin on November 13, 2012 at 8:47 AM

This is a distraction.
ted c on November 13, 2012 at 8:19 AM

And it feels like a maestro is orchestrating these “leaks” and events with precision….
Only military commanders having affairs?…..politicians are squeaky clean?……..yeah, right. Where’s Obama anyway? Haven’t seen him since election night. And everyone is hunky-dory with HRC wine tasting and not testifying? Welcome to our Banana Republic.

conservative pilgrim on November 13, 2012 at 8:47 AM

Yep.

esr1951 on November 13, 2012 at 8:41 AM

well, then, if a coup, Broadwell and KY Jelly are plants and these generals have fallen to these beauties. stupid guys…old farts who pray for a little woody….ridiculous.

gracie on November 13, 2012 at 8:48 AM

I’m sitting in the Atlanta airport right now and it is wall to wall news on the sex scandals. That they could have spent a quarter of the time on Benghazi.

hawkdriver on November 13, 2012 at 8:44 AM

These generals should be smarter than this to expose themselves to the chicago thugs.

the_nile on November 13, 2012 at 8:48 AM

McCain:We have nothing to fear with Barack Obama in the White House.

the_nile on November 13, 2012 at 8:42 AM

That quote ranks right up there with Newt’s sitting on that couch with Nancy Pelosi as among the most bone-headed acts by a Republican in the past decade.

Happy Nomad on November 13, 2012 at 8:48 AM

sesquipedalian on November 13, 2012 at 8:41 AM

Presumptuous little Troll, aren’t you? 4 brave americans are dead, and you don’t give a rat’s behind.

kingsjester on November 13, 2012 at 8:48 AM

You bet it’s all connected . That’s why they’re using a
Gatling gun loaded with squirrels .

Lucano on November 13, 2012 at 8:48 AM

I’m glad that John Kerry may be our next Secretary of Defense. WE need a Swift Boater to deal with all this Motor Boating.

Rocks on November 13, 2012 at 8:49 AM

Do the math:

Ken Gardner@kesgardner
20,000-30,000 pages of emails between Allen and Kelley? That’s 55-82 pages of emails per day, every day, for an entire year. Math is fun!
13 Nov 12 ReplyRetweetFavorite

Naturally Curly on November 13, 2012 at 8:39 AM

We learned on Nov. 6 that at least 51% of the electorate cannot do basic math.

We already knew about 90% of the MSM cannot. Ridiculous, incredulous, and often conflicting numbers and statistics are regularly reported by the MSM without pause or question or even a raised eyebrow.

Assume any number reported by the MSM is utter nonsense until proven otherwise unless you already know it comes from a credible source.

farsighted on November 13, 2012 at 8:49 AM

i wish you were motivated by genuine concern for the four dead. you aren’t.

sesquipedalian on November 13, 2012 at 8:41 AM

I’m pretty effin’ disgusted by the idea that these men fought bravely for their lives for hours while your idiot obama let them die. You’re a real jacka$$.

Blake on November 13, 2012 at 8:50 AM

Affairs…whatever. What about the Bengazi coverup and F&F. Eye on the ball please.

Mr. Arrogant on November 13, 2012 at 8:51 AM

Do the math:

Ken Gardner@kesgardner
20,000-30,000 pages of emails between Allen and Kelley? That’s 55-82 pages of emails per day, every day, for an entire year. Math is fun!
13 Nov 12 ReplyRetweetFavorite

Naturally Curly on November 13, 2012 at 8:39 AM

Yeah , too many to be about an affair.

the_nile on November 13, 2012 at 8:51 AM

sharrukin on November 13, 2012 at 8:47 AM

but notice CNN didn’t mention Obama’s role in this. He gave the orders to stand down in Bengazi. Petraeus, Allen and Ham did not. we can’t let the White House get away with this. KY Jelly and Broadwell may be working for the White House.

gracie on November 13, 2012 at 8:52 AM

Do the math:

Ken Gardner@kesgardner
20,000-30,000 pages of emails between Allen and Kelley? That’s 55-82 pages of emails per day, every day, for an entire year. Math is fun!
13 Nov 12 ReplyRetweetFavorite

Naturally Curly on November 13, 2012 at 8:39 AM

I suspect that number must include texting messages.

Text messaging leveled off between 2010 and 2011, even as users send or receive more than 40 texts per day on average

sharrukin on November 13, 2012 at 8:52 AM

I’m sitting in the Atlanta airport right now and it is wall to wall news on the sex scandals. That they could have spent a quarter of the time on Benghazi.

hawkdriver on November 13, 2012 at 8:44 AM

The Sour Kraut was right. He said last week when this broke that the sex scandal aspect would lure the press to cover Benghazi. They may not intend to shine a spotlight on the attack on the consulate, but indirectly that’s what they’re doing.

Doughboy on November 13, 2012 at 8:52 AM

Haven’t seen him since election night. And everyone is hunky-dory with HRC wine tasting and not testifying? Welcome to our Banana Republic.

conservative pilgrim on November 13, 2012 at 8:47 AM

I’ll make this prediction now. HRC and Patraeus will be called to testify in a closed session (i.e. not in front of cameras where the pols can posture and bluster). They both will plead the fifth because there are aspects to the story which could lead to charges being filed. The most damning might center on whatever the CIA was doing and who in the administration knew about it. Presumably Ambassador Stevens knew so HRC probably knew. Patraeus would have known. Which leads to a very scary question. What did the President know and if he knew nothing, why not? Who was in charge?

Happy Nomad on November 13, 2012 at 8:52 AM

KY Jelly’s a spy…lot’s of $ in that.

gracie on November 13, 2012 at 8:54 AM

We learned on Nov. 6 that at least 51% of the electorate cannot do basic math.

We already knew about 90% of the MSM cannot. Ridiculous, incredulous, and often conflicting numbers and statistics are regularly reported by the MSM without pause or question or even a raised eyebrow.

Assume any number reported by the MSM is utter nonsense until proven otherwise unless you already know it comes from a credible source.

farsighted on November 13, 2012 at 8:49 AM

Also learned that the GOP cannot do basic math either or Mitt Romney’s large loss would not have been a surprise.

jonknee on November 13, 2012 at 8:55 AM

We already knew about 90% of the MSM cannot. Ridiculous, incredulous, and often conflicting numbers and statistics are regularly reported by the MSM without pause or question or even a raised eyebrow.

Assume any number reported by the MSM is utter nonsense until proven otherwise unless you already know it comes from a credible source.

farsighted on November 13, 2012 at 8:49 AM

The ene-media is only there to protect the junta.

Enablers.

the_nile on November 13, 2012 at 8:55 AM

Having said that, though, has anyone noticed how we’re suddenly talking about affairs and sex scandals and not Benghazi for the most part? And if we conservatives here at Hot Air are doing that, what do you think the media and the general public are focused on?

Yes, the administration has quite successfully yelled “SQUIRREL!” and distracted everyone from a potentially ruinous situation for them. Well played, Obama. Well played.

Shump on November 13, 2012 at 8:45 AM

They may be able to ignore it until Patraeus and Broadwell and who knows who else is called to testify in Congress about Benghazi.

Hopefully they will not be able to keep a lid on this. It didn’t work for Nixon who tried to keep a lid on a third rate amateur break-in he had nothing to do with. In this case we have four dead Americans, including an Ambassador. Patraeus is right in the middle of it and Broadwell has publicly said things about Benghazi the American people were not told about.

farsighted on November 13, 2012 at 8:56 AM

but notice CNN didn’t mention Obama’s role in this. He gave the orders to stand down in Bengazi. Petraeus, Allen and Ham did not. we can’t let the White House get away with this. KY Jelly and Broadwell may be working for the White House.

gracie on November 13, 2012 at 8:52 AM

Agreed, but at least they are covering it and this is CNN. They can’t ignore it anymore due to the tabloid nature we are now seeing. Sadly, most people will pay attention to a sex scandal and ignore a national security scandal. This is both.

I think its possible that Jill Kelley is working for the White House though Broadwell may not be.

sharrukin on November 13, 2012 at 8:56 AM

Text messaging leveled off between 2010 and 2011, even as users send or receive more than 40 texts per day on average

sharrukin on November 13, 2012 at 8:52 AM

Any general that is going to leave a paper trail this extensive really does leave questions about the confidence in his ability to lead.

Happy Nomad on November 13, 2012 at 8:57 AM

Blake ,
You forgot to say that the scum watched it also .

Lucano on November 13, 2012 at 8:58 AM

How does investigating one general lead the investigator to stumble upon e-mails between another different general? How does this happen? It looks to me like there is widespread, arbitrary, monitoring of internet communication going on here. I just can’t believe a word I’m hearing from this administration. Truly evil.

tommyboy on November 13, 2012 at 8:58 AM

Any general that is going to leave a paper trail this extensive really does leave questions about the confidence in his ability to lead.

Happy Nomad on November 13, 2012 at 8:57 AM

20,000 to 30,000 E-mails sent to a socialite from the commander in Afghanistan does seem a tad excessive.

sharrukin on November 13, 2012 at 8:59 AM

When their no leadership in the White House this sh*t happens… We are living the age of Obama and his inner city leadership…

mnjg on November 13, 2012 at 8:59 AM

Shut it wingnuts.

Stalin fired the his generals by giving them an overdose of 7.62x54R.

These officers should praise Bark for his mercy.

CorporatePiggy on November 13, 2012 at 9:01 AM

This whole sex scandal thing is a blatant attempt to divert attention away from Benghazi! You ever think what the families of the four Americans who were killed there are going through right now, seeing what is happening right now, how all the attention on Benghazi is being intentionally diverted away to some sordid sex affair?

Why don’t you ask them if they consider this sex scandal crap “newsworthy”? I think you’ll find they will somewhat beg to differ!

pilamaye on November 13, 2012 at 8:40 AM

Spare me with the melodrama. I doubt you know these families personally, and it’s disgusting that you would try to speak for them in some cheap attempt to advance your argument. This site has devoted an enormous amount of energy covering Benghazi, and has earned the benefit of the doubt when it comes to reporting news about other topics. Judging by the number of comments, I think it’s fair to say that plenty of readers are interested in this story and appreciate being kept up to speed on a topic that may be much more than what it seems.

HarryBackside on November 13, 2012 at 9:01 AM

Any general that is going to leave a paper trail this extensive really does leave questions about the confidence in his ability to lead.

Happy Nomad on November 13, 2012 at 8:57 AM

I would be more concerned about a person in his position trying to hide communications. In today’s electronic age I am guessing all communication is saved in and out of government run facilities. Maybe the better question to ask is why did he feel so comfortable using government recorded lines of communication to carry on in this way. If a person really wants to keep an affair secret they don’t use government computers, government issued phones, or government servers.

NotCoach on November 13, 2012 at 9:01 AM

Also learned that the GOP cannot do basic math either or Mitt Romney’s large loss would not have been a surprise.

jonknee on November 13, 2012 at 8:55 AM

It is not easy to predict how the electorate turnout in an elections but it is easy to find out that you cannot spend over one trillion dollars each year over what we get in revenues… So yes Obama and the socialists have a huge Math problem in this case…

mnjg on November 13, 2012 at 9:02 AM

How does investigating one general lead the investigator to stumble upon e-mails between another different general? How does this happen?

tommyboy on November 13, 2012 at 8:58 AM

Paula Broadwell is claimed to have sent E-mails to Jill Kelley who was close to Petraeus AND who had a relationship with Gen. Allen.

sharrukin on November 13, 2012 at 9:02 AM

The number of emails is not the same as the number of printed pages.

They used gmail. When you have a long email thread going, all the messages keep getting duplicated and then there are ads included.

Blake on November 13, 2012 at 9:02 AM

How does investigating one general lead the investigator to stumble upon e-mails between another different general? How does this happen? It looks to me like there is widespread, arbitrary, monitoring of internet communication going on here. I just can’t believe a word I’m hearing from this administration. Truly evil.

tommyboy on November 13, 2012 at 8:58 AM

I believe so too , they were monitored in a fishing operation, and then someone created a trigger to unravel it.

The story in ene-meida is constantly evolving and changing.

the_nile on November 13, 2012 at 9:02 AM

I realize it might look -especially to Obama supporters- like a dishonest attempt to slander the president, but the fact remains that leaders set the tone for those they lead. If they’re active, hands-on, and involved with those that they employ; and honest, stern, and effective in the leadership style, that will trickle down throughout the ranks.

On the other hand, if you’re disengaged, aloof, and uninterested; unresponsive, second-guessing, and quick to blame others, those who work for you will be less serious and less efficient. As we used to say in the Corps, you’ll have a bunch of “skaters”. A “when the cat’s away, the mice will play”-group of subordinates. Or, if you prefer the more modern version of the same thing, “leading from behind”.

When a leader lacks integrity, that trait will not find its way among the majority of those they lead.

A look at the number of known scandals under Obama all have a common thread- an utter disregard of established protocol, with a tenancy for rogue maneuvers by mid-level management. Fast & Furious. GSA. Secret Service. And even Benghazi. All the result of a lack of interest from the top, and lower-level decision-makers making rash, political/ideological/irresponsible/unethical decisions.

We’ve all worked someplace where we saw someone in a leadership position shirk their responsibility in favor of self-indulgent behavior or an attempt to remain “one of the guys/gals”. Those under their charge rarely perform well. This is what we have today.

BKeyser on November 13, 2012 at 9:04 AM

How does this happen? It looks to me like there is widespread, arbitrary, monitoring of internet communication going on here. I just can’t believe a word I’m hearing from this administration. Truly evil.

tommyboy on November 13, 2012 at 8:58 AM

When I was active, every single time I signed on to a computer, I had to accept a notice that said, in effect, ‘everything you do on this computer is the property of the US government, and you have no expectation of privacy.’

I imagine it’s only gotten more intrusive since I got out in 2010.

Washington Nearsider on November 13, 2012 at 9:04 AM

Soledad obrien is “connecting the dots” for us with the Petraeus Affair. 40 minutes of CNN news and not a word about Benghazi. The us media needs to be taken apart. No talk. No simple carping about them. They need to be taken down a notch.

hawkdriver on November 13, 2012 at 9:05 AM

I would be more concerned about a person in his position trying to hide communications. In today’s electronic age I am guessing all communication is saved in and out of government run facilities. Maybe the better question to ask is why did he feel so comfortable using government recorded lines of communication to carry on in this way. If a person really wants to keep an affair secret they don’t use government computers, government issued phones, or government servers.

NotCoach on November 13, 2012 at 9:01 AM

They save everything from everwhere.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/

the_nile on November 13, 2012 at 9:06 AM

the length these generals are willing to go to protect the president is astonishing, right?

methinks it’s just your regularly scheduled republican sex scandal, only more bizarre than usual.

sesquipedalian on November 13, 2012 at 8:20 AM

Petraeus is no republican, so give it a rest. Besides, in those ranks, they rarely make their political preferences known. Too busy sucking up to the CiC du jour…

jimver on November 13, 2012 at 9:06 AM

Also learned that the GOP cannot do basic math either or Mitt Romney’s large loss would not have been a surprise.

jonknee on November 13, 2012 at 8:55 AM

What’s for dinner? Sh17 sandwiches?

tom daschle concerned on November 13, 2012 at 9:07 AM

Paula Broadwell is claimed to have sent E-mails to Jill Kelley who was close to Petraeus AND who had a relationship with Gen. Allen.
sharrukin on November 13, 2012 at 9:02 AM

So they decided to just go on a massive fishing expedition into the e-mails of the purported victim who merely reported she was being threatend via e-mail? Then they “accidently” learned this “victim” was having an affair with another high ranking official? Sorry, but that stinks to high heaven and makes me very suspicious of the entire storyline.

tommyboy on November 13, 2012 at 9:07 AM

When I was active, every single time I signed on to a computer, I had to accept a notice that said, in effect, ‘everything you do on this computer is the property of the US government, and you have no expectation of privacy.’
Washington Nearsider on November 13, 2012 at 9:04 AM

Do we know Allen was using a government computer or account to communicate with Kelley?

tommyboy on November 13, 2012 at 9:08 AM

Missing from Ed’s story, (I think), via AP

The FBI’s decision to refer the Allen matter to the Pentagon rather than keep it itself, combined with Panetta’s decision to allow Allen to continue as Afghanistan commander without a suspension, suggested strongly that officials viewed whatever happened as a possible infraction of military rules rather than a violation of federal criminal law.

Allen was Deputy Commander of Central Command, based in Tampa, prior to taking over in Afghanistan. He also is a veteran of the Iraq war.

In the meantime, Panetta said, Allen’s nomination to be the next commander of U.S. European Command and the commander of NATO forces in Europe has been put on hold “until the relevant facts are determined.” He had been expected to take that new post in early 2013, if confirmed by the Senate, as had been widely expected.

The man was about to be appointed as the NATO’s Supreme Allied Commander in Europe? Yeah, Leon, I’d put that one on hold too.

Rovin on November 13, 2012 at 9:08 AM

Obama (and company) is reading every email you send.
Ever wonder how they could pinpoint and target potential voters for Obama?

albill on November 13, 2012 at 9:10 AM

Doesn’t this whole thing start to smell of a Chicago smear on steroids to anyone? First of all, I never thought P4 was the next big R thing just cuz he was a general. He never even came out with his preference in that regard. Then he shows up on the steps of the CIA as their new honcho. He may have been a good military man and general but he was never a spook. Looks like they started trolling for big fish a long time ago and only reveal their trophies when they need to. Makes me wonder who’s next on their list.

Kissmygrits on November 13, 2012 at 9:10 AM

Do we know Allen was using a government computer or account to communicate with Kelley?

tommyboy on November 13, 2012 at 9:08 AM

Doesn’t matter , everything is recorded. They should know.

the_nile on November 13, 2012 at 9:11 AM

So they decided to just go on a massive fishing expedition into the e-mails of the purported victim who merely reported she was being threatend via e-mail? Then they “accidently” learned this “victim” was having an affair with another high ranking official? Sorry, but that stinks to high heaven and makes me very suspicious of the entire storyline.

tommyboy on November 13, 2012 at 9:07 AM

It’s another coincidence that’s for sure. I mean this Jill Kelley knew what was on her own computer and SHE called in the FBI.

sharrukin on November 13, 2012 at 9:11 AM

Is it a coincidence that the title of Petraeus’ bio is “All in” and his replacement is named “Allen” hmmmm

Next up Fox reality show “The four star hump club” where retired four stars spend 90 days in seclusion with two attractive women.

Bradky on November 13, 2012 at 9:11 AM

Because it is starting to become very obvious that someone high up has pulled the Sex Scandal Card and is desperately attempting to divert everyone’s attention away from the subject of Benghazi.

pilamaye on November 13, 2012 at 8:19 AM

Not working very well, is it?

“I don’t know if a lot of you have heard this, but the CIA annex had actually taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoner and they think that the attack on the consulate was an effort to get these prisoners back,” said Broadwell in a speech last month at the University of Denver.

As reported by

Associated Press

Reuters

CNN

ABC

WGNTV, Chicago

PressTV

KVIA, El Paso, TX Las Cruces, NM

Washington Post

CBS News

Chicago Tribune

Denver Post

And that’s from just the first 2 pages of Google.

Flora Duh on November 13, 2012 at 9:12 AM

Soledad obrien is “connecting the dots” for us with the Petraeus Affair.

hawkdriver on November 13, 2012 at 9:05 AM

Oh please! That woman is so stupid she couldn’t connect two dots if her life depended on it.

Happy Nomad on November 13, 2012 at 9:12 AM

Do we know Allen was using a government computer or account to communicate with Kelley?

tommyboy on November 13, 2012 at 9:08 AM

Any computer plugged into the network on an air station, FOB or firebase is a government computer. Any aircard provided by the government makes the computer it is used on a government computer.

Washington Nearsider on November 13, 2012 at 9:13 AM

SEX!!!!!!
SEX!!!!!!
SEX!!!!!!
SEX!!!!!!

That’s how we needed to get Benghazi in the headlines, duh. Why didn’t we try that sooner.

It’s even on the cover of USA Today. The sex part, they don’t care about the 4 dead Americans.

PappyD61 on November 13, 2012 at 9:13 AM

Also learned that the GOP cannot do basic math either or Mitt Romney’s large loss would not have been a surprise.

jonknee on November 13, 2012 at 8:55 AM

You can’t really blame us for not being able to trust the left leaning, Obama ass kissing media. They don’t even deny it or try to hide it any more. That is the problem when the press, which is supposed to be a watchdog of the government is actually a partner with a particular party. They lose credibility, which is why so many of them are about to go bankrupt. Maybe something better can arise from the ashes.

Night Owl on November 13, 2012 at 9:13 AM

Doesn’t this whole thing start to smell of a Chicago smear on steroids to anyone? First of all, I never thought P4 was the next big R thing just cuz he was a general. He never even came out with his preference in that regard.

Kissmygrits on November 13, 2012 at 9:10 AM

What active duty officer does? The Uniform Code of Military Justice prohibits any military member from commenting on, or participating in politics. Those that do tend to find themselves in hot water after doing so.

NotCoach on November 13, 2012 at 9:13 AM

And Erdogan is Obama’s best friend among foreign leaders. Ick.

ProfessorMiao on November 13, 2012 at 8:40 AM

NEVER trust the Turks. Obama is an idiot if he thinks Erdogan is an ally. Mistifyingly enough, former and current American administrations and their diplomacy tried for years to push Europe into accepting Turkey into the EU (the Trojan horse, right), am glad that the EU resisted and it looks like hell would froze over before Turkey gets into the EU.

jimver on November 13, 2012 at 9:14 AM

http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/11/07/military-insider-watergate-him/

Starting to seem more plausible everyday.

can_con on November 13, 2012 at 9:17 AM

Any computer plugged into the network on an air station, FOB or firebase is a government computer. Any aircard provided by the government makes the computer it is used on a government computer.
Washington Nearsider on November 13, 2012 at 9:13 AM

How about a smart phone using a G4 satellite data service?

tommyboy on November 13, 2012 at 9:18 AM

How about a smart phone using a G4 satellite data service?

tommyboy on November 13, 2012 at 9:18 AM

Privately owned phone, or government issued? Regardless, one only needs to log into their Gmail account once from a government computer to leave behind a record of everything in that Gmail account on a government server.

NotCoach on November 13, 2012 at 9:21 AM

Well said BK

cmsinaz on November 13, 2012 at 9:22 AM

How about a smart phone using a G4 satellite data service?

tommyboy on November 13, 2012 at 9:18 AM

You may be okay there, provided it’s a personal cell phone, and not a government-issued Blackberry or something.

Even if that’s the case (which seems remarkably improbably) it was happening on government time.

Washington Nearsider on November 13, 2012 at 9:23 AM

25,000 letters would be 34 a day for two years.

Akzed on November 13, 2012 at 9:23 AM

Yepper Hawkdriver

CNN covering for the one

cmsinaz on November 13, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Privately owned phone, or government issued? Regardless, one only needs to log into their Gmail account once from a government computer to leave behind a record of everything in that Gmail account on a government server.

NotCoach on November 13, 2012 at 9:21 AM

NSA stores all traffic they can grab on the internet.

the_nile on November 13, 2012 at 9:26 AM

Bradky on November 13, 2012 at 9:20 AM

Nice job by the production crew there.

CorporatePiggy on November 13, 2012 at 9:26 AM

Privately owned phone, or government issued? Regardless, one only needs to log into their Gmail account once from a government computer to leave behind a record of everything in that Gmail account on a government server.
NotCoach on November 13, 2012 at 9:21 AM

The point is that the General, if he wanted to keep the online portion of the relationship off the military grid, he could easily have do so with a smart phone and a $100 a month verizon account. This would avoid the waivers of privacy noted above when using government accounts and equipmnet and Generals usually are pretty smart people, so Allen doiong this is not beyond the realm of possibility. I don’t know either way.

tommyboy on November 13, 2012 at 9:27 AM

NSA stores all traffic they can grab on the internet.

the_nile on November 13, 2012 at 9:26 AM

I saw your link.

NotCoach on November 13, 2012 at 9:28 AM

now that is funny

Bradky on November 13, 2012 at 9:20 AM

heh!!

ted c on November 13, 2012 at 9:30 AM

I saw your link.

NotCoach on November 13, 2012 at 9:28 AM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/sep/15/data-whistleblower-constitutional-rights

US data whistleblower: ‘It’s a violation of everybody’s constitutional rights’

Former National Security Agency official Bill Binney says US is illegally collecting huge amounts of data on his fellow citizens
Bill Binney believes he helped create a monster.

Sitting in the innocuous surroundings of an Olive Garden in the Baltimore suburbs, the former senior National Security Agency (NSA) official even believes he owes the whole American people an apology.

But all involved should know this.

the_nile on November 13, 2012 at 9:31 AM

Jill Kelley? no it was Jill Kahwam before marriage. She is a volunteer unpaid “liaison”? Between which parties? And for what purpose? What, to hook up general officers? An arab chick??? Wait a minute what’s going on here?

jake49 on November 13, 2012 at 9:32 AM

So they decided to just go on a massive fishing expedition into the e-mails of the purported victim who merely reported she was being threatend via e-mail? Then they “accidently” learned this “victim” was having an affair with another high ranking official? Sorry, but that stinks to high heaven and makes me very suspicious of the entire storyline.

tommyboy on November 13, 2012 at 9:07 AM

Agreed, but it’s even worse than this. According to at least one report, the FBI knew of Petraeus’ affair in May, yet did not report it to anyone in the White House until last week. And only then, they say, because it constituted a potential security threat. So what’s the deal with the tens of thousands of emails that Kelley just happened to have on her computer, and that have not been demonstrated to prove an affair or anything else, so far, becoming public at the same time?

ProfessorMiao on November 13, 2012 at 9:39 AM

This would avoid the waivers of privacy noted above when using government accounts and equipmnet and Generals usually are pretty smart people, so Allen doiong this is not beyond the realm of possibility. I don’t know either way.

tommyboy on November 13, 2012 at 9:27 AM

Wouldn’t matter. All the emails he sent Kelley are stored in her account which she allowed the feds to access. As soon as they saw inappropriate messages from Allen, they had probable cause to search.

Blake on November 13, 2012 at 9:39 AM

Must find a way to blame the totally new practice of powerful men having affairs on Obama. Must. Find. A. Way.

libfreeordie on November 13, 2012 at 8:04 AM

What’s really funny its that your only thought is to deflect on how this reflects on Obama. When the real question is, “What did the president know and when did he know it ands sites it have anything to do with the disgraceful handling of Benghazi?”

Because it already reflects badly on Obama if he know or should have known about this corruption and did nothing.

tom on November 13, 2012 at 9:40 AM

This seems to have been known for months. Why no media about this till afte the election.

Candy “it’s the video” crowley, I want to know;

*When did Obama know of this, when did holder know off this, when did clinton know of this
*Was their prisoners being held in libya and was that the reason for the murder od our 4 people
*Why was their no security after the previous 2 attacks to the 9-11 assualt. Did it have something to do with us holding prisoners
*Why did the CIA station chief on 9-11 call the assualt terrorism then Petraues two days later told congress under oath that the video was the reason for the asasualt. Was petraeus being blackmailed
*Did broadwell have classified info given to her by petrateus
*Why did the FBI/Holder not inform congress months ago
*Why did petreus resign after the election and not before
*Why did the FBI investigate a simple computer harrassment for jill kelly against Broadwell. What more was involved?

I have 100 more question. Will our worthless media follow-up.

Isn’t it convient for Obama that

*It comes out after the election BY TWO FRIGGEN DAYS
*Holder/Clinton etc. were able to get away with the Video garbage
*That only Fox out of every news outlet covered anything to do with the bengazi coverup

This tells me we are living in the old soviet union where our press is Pravda!!!!

Danielvito on November 13, 2012 at 9:40 AM

Jill Kelley? no it was Jill Kahwam before marriage. She is a volunteer unpaid “liaison”? Between which parties? And for what purpose? What, to hook up general officers? An arab chick??? Wait a minute what’s going on here?

jake49 on November 13, 2012 at 9:32 AM

If you want to add a whole new layer of stinkyness to this whole scenario just check out this story from the NY Post:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/twisted_sister_wPCTY0kcH9xu9DPh8RN7yL

Kinda makes you rethink, who really was the harasser vis-a-vis the emails between Kelley and the General’s mistress?

tommyboy on November 13, 2012 at 9:40 AM

Wouldn’t matter. All the emails he sent Kelley are stored in her account which she allowed the feds to access. As soon as they saw inappropriate messages from Allen, they had probable cause to search.

Blake on November 13, 2012 at 9:39 AM

Probable cause of what? I know of no crime these e-mails could constitulte under FBI jurisdiction.

tommyboy on November 13, 2012 at 9:42 AM

Here a scandal, there a scandal, everywhere a scandal scandal. My, my, my.

scalleywag on November 13, 2012 at 9:43 AM

“POTUS is a [insert rude word for lady parts], might as well shag.”
- the Generals

Or not.

ElectricPhase on November 13, 2012 at 9:44 AM

Wow, now you make the claim that you can determine the motivation of others. This is a national security issue no matter how much you want to try to spin this as nothing but a sex scandal. It isn’t going to work because there are national security considerations.

Happy Nomad on November 13, 2012 at 8:46 AM

of course there are national security implications. the chief spy’s total lack of discipline is a biggie, for one. alas, the sex scandal is a story on its own right, and has little if anything to do with the four dead in benghazi.

sesquipedalian on November 13, 2012 at 9:45 AM

They were left to die to cover up Obamas secret activities. It’s all connected.

the_nile on November 13, 2012 at 8:44 AM

very interesting, please explain! what secret activities, pray tell, is the shirtless fbi agent covering up?

sesquipedalian on November 13, 2012 at 9:46 AM

Obama (and company) is reading every email you send.
Ever wonder how they could pinpoint and target potential voters for Obama?

albill on November 13, 2012 at 9:10 AM

THIS

djl130 on November 13, 2012 at 9:46 AM

very interesting, please explain! what secret activities, pray tell, is the shirtless fbi agent covering up?

sesquipedalian on November 13, 2012 at 9:46 AM

They’ve babbled about so many variations of their own imagined conspiracy theories, the can’t get it straight anymore.

Should come out and say they hate Obama so men in power cheating, like all the other ills of the universe are his fault.

lester on November 13, 2012 at 9:51 AM

Well, looks like we’ve gone from love triangle to love pentagon.

TXUS on November 13, 2012 at 9:52 AM

sesquipedalian on November 13, 2012 at 9:46 AM

lester on November 13, 2012 at 9:51 AM

The two of you seem rather confused, so let me try and focus things for you: Why were 4 Americans left to die in Benghazi?

NotCoach on November 13, 2012 at 10:00 AM

SEX!!!!!!

That’s how we needed to get Benghazi in the headlines, duh. Why didn’t we try that sooner.

It’s even on the cover of USA Today. The sex part, they don’t care about the 4 dead Americans.

PappyD61 on November 13, 2012 at 9:13 AM

An old bird hunter bragging about his best dog ever always swore if he didn’t find a bird in the first ten minutes in the field, he’d go behind a tree and make one.
Petraus was that bird, in this case destraction, in the making. A compromised subordinate never causes problems and is easily desposed of publicly for even further self grandeur. (Again, could this explain the little Boehner poodle dog?)
Well, the progressives have successfully kept us chasing out tail that’s fur sure. And always violent, when they’re at their most successfull like Fast and Furious, they’re able to keep it secret for the most part.
When you defend yourself, they’re still able to look the victim. Example:After burning buildings and attacking the firemen that responded in the 60′s we got a memorable “Four Dead in Ohio”
Now, “four dead in Benghazi”? Hardly. Sideshow time. “Look! Look at the squirrel, uhm bird!” MSM dances merrily.

onomo on November 13, 2012 at 10:03 AM

sesquipedalian on November 13, 2012 at 9:46 AM

Should come out and say they we hate Obama Bush so men in power cheating, like all the other ills of the universe are his fault.

lester on November 13, 2012 at 9:51 AM

FIFY

btw, I notice you two haven’t commented on the thread where Diane Feinstein, a DEM, in case you’ve forgotten, is threatening to subpoena the CIA for witholding information about Patreus’ trip to Benghazi.

Why so silent?

Flora Duh on November 13, 2012 at 10:04 AM

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