Af-Pak theater commander caught in sex scandal?

posted at 8:01 am on November 13, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

The FBI probe into the affair involving a former commander of the Afghanistan-Pakistan theater of war has apparently led to the exposure of his successor.  Reports overnight from several news sources say that investigators discovered tens of thousands of communications between General John Allen, commander of NATO forces in Afghanistan, and Jill Kelley, whose friendship with General David Petraeus allegedly triggered a bout of e-mail harassment from Petraeus’ mistress Paula Broadwell:

The FBI probe into the sex scandal that prompted CIA Director David Petraeus to resign has expanded to ensnare Gen. John R. Allen, the commander of U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan, the Pentagon announced early Tuesday.

According to a senior U.S. defense official, the FBI has uncovered between 20,000 and 30,000 documents — most of them e-mails — of “potentially inappropriate” communications between Allen and Jill Kelley, a 37-year-old Tampa woman whose close relationship with Petraeus ultimately led to his downfall.

Allen, a Marine, succeeded Petraeus as the top allied commander in Afghanistan in July 2011. He also served as Petraeus’s deputy when both generals led the military’s Tampa-based Central Command from 2008 until 2010.

The FBI first notified the Pentagon of its investigation into Allen’s communications with Kelley on Sunday evening, according to the senior defense official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss details of the pending case.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta issued a statement last night that said Allen would remain in place for now, but he was on his way out anyway.  The Senate Armed Services Committee was scheduled to take up the confirmation hearing of his successor, Marine General Joseph F. Dunford, on Thursday.  According to the Washington Post, Panetta asked Senate leadership yesterday to expedite Dunford’s confirmation, and that could happen within days.  At the same time, Panetta put a hold on Allen’s promotion to commander of all NATO forces in Europe while the investigation continues.

Allen will have fewer options than Petraeus did if this turns out to be true.  Petraeus was a civilian when his affair was discovered, and could have opted to keep his job.  An extramarital affair on active duty is another matter entirely.  The Uniform Code of Military Justice prohibits such sexual relationships, and it could result in a court-martial.

That doesn’t occur very often, but that’s not to say that it’s consequence-free, either.  Seven years ago, Army Chief of Staff Peter Schoomaker abruptly dismissed four-star General Kevin Byrnes from the service over an extramarital affair, even though Byrnes was only a few months away from retirement, and even though Byrnes and his wife had been separated for months and were in the process of divorce.  Byrnes headed the Training and Doctrine Command in Virginia, not a war theater or a strategic center such as NATO, but that probably makes it worse for Allen, not better.

Let’s hope that Jill Kelley and Paula Broadwell have never made General Dunford’s acquaintance.

Update: Maybe it’s not the money after all:

Update II: Ace Gabriel Malor at Ace’s place is aghast, not just at the cheating, but the sheer scope of the communications:

Twenty to thirty THOUSAND pages? I write for a living and I can tell you that I haven’t written twenty to thirty thousand pages in my working career. Cheese-and-crackers, that’s a damn lot of love letters. I’ve never liked anyone enough EVER to spend that much time talking to them. Eesh.

The inescapable rule of affairs just ran into the first rule of spycraft. The rule of affairs is that there is never just one. You cheat, that makes you a cheater. It never just happens once.

And the first rule of spycraft is that “Everyone (or every man) has his blond bombshell in a red Ferrari.” Translation: every idiot will let his sex drive drive.

On Twitchy, it’s been suggested that these may be captures of chat sessions, which would make more sense … but also mean that the commander of the Af-Pak theater spends a lot of time thinking about something other than victory.

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Must find a way to blame the totally new practice of powerful men having affairs on Obama. Must. Find. A. Way.

libfreeordie on November 13, 2012 at 8:04 AM

No wonder Benghazi happened.

Everyone else is getting nooky.

Electrongod on November 13, 2012 at 8:04 AM

We’re just at the crusty outer layer of this onion.
What has this nation become?

CTSherman on November 13, 2012 at 8:05 AM

20 to 30,000 documents?

Holy crap.

BallisticBob on November 13, 2012 at 8:05 AM

Witness the full power of this epic clusterfark.

Mord on November 13, 2012 at 8:06 AM

All of this is important for their own reasons, but I have serious concerns all of this tawdry crap is going to bury the Benghazi story. Does any of this answer the question of who, where, when, what and why 4 Americans were left to die?

NotCoach on November 13, 2012 at 8:07 AM

Must find a way not to be distracted from the real story here – Benghazi. Must. Find. A. Way.

Trafalgar on November 13, 2012 at 8:08 AM

Forget the benghazi scandal, lets just focus on this

Feels very squirrel to me

cmsinaz on November 13, 2012 at 8:08 AM

I think this country needs an overall commander to be in charge. Like a boss of all these organizations – the millitary, CIA etc all answer to him/her and he/she provides strong leadership. We could call it Commander in Chief or something like that.

forest on November 13, 2012 at 8:09 AM

The heck with all this sex scandal crap!!!! All of this is diverting attention away from what should be the real issue, namely what actually happened in Benghazi and who dropped the ball.

I am beginning to see all this sex scandal stuff as being almost an intentional smoke and mirrors attempt to divert the public’s and the media’s attention away from the Benghazi incident and that alone is now starting to seriously piss me off.

I would not be the least bit shocked if someone way high up is orchestrating this!

pilamaye on November 13, 2012 at 8:09 AM

Agree with not coach and Trafalgar

Anything for the lsm to change the subject

cmsinaz on November 13, 2012 at 8:09 AM

Hey, anybody remember that we are supposed to be talking of BENGHAZI?

Hey, look a shiny, sequin-covered squirrel; who needs to investigate security in Benghazi when we have a pretty, shiny squirrel?

herm2416 on November 13, 2012 at 8:10 AM

What is with these men? Get the Spice channel if you are that “needy”

gophergirl on November 13, 2012 at 8:10 AM

Must find a way to blame the totally new practice of powerful men having affairs on Obama. Must. Find. A. Way.

libfreeordie on November 13, 2012 at 8:04 AM

Please do not engage in projection.

Dextrous on November 13, 2012 at 8:12 AM

Must find a way to blame the totally new practice of powerful men having affairs on Obama. Must. Find. A. Way.

libfreeordie on November 13, 2012 at 8:04 AM

We don’t have to find a way. Just sit back and watch. For THE WON II it will all come out in the end.

Yoop on November 13, 2012 at 8:12 AM

No wonder Benghazi happened.

Everyone else is getting nooky.

Electrongod on November 13, 2012 at 8:04 AM

Af-Pak or Af-Bang

Oil Can on November 13, 2012 at 8:12 AM

Must find a way to blame the totally new practice of powerful men having affairs on Obama. Must. Find. A. Way.

libfreeordie on November 13, 2012 at 8:04 AM

You and I are on the same side.

Looking in on the BS that we call Government.

Welcome aboard.

Electrongod on November 13, 2012 at 8:12 AM

Forest heh :)

cmsinaz on November 13, 2012 at 8:13 AM

Must find a way to blame the totally new practice of powerful men having affairs on Obama. Must. Find. A. Way.

libfreeordie on November 13, 2012 at 8:04 AM

LMFAO!!

HondaV65 on November 13, 2012 at 8:13 AM

Leadership, uncovered.

FlaMurph on November 13, 2012 at 8:15 AM

Old and busted: Squirrel!
New and hotness: Beaver!

ted c on November 13, 2012 at 8:15 AM

All of this is important for their own reasons, but I have serious concerns all of this tawdry crap is going to bury the Benghazi story. Does any of this answer the question of who, where, when, what and why 4 Americans were left to die?

NotCoach on November 13, 2012 at 8:07 AM

LOL – NONE Of this is important. The Benghazi story is the ONLY thing important. But because they (the LSM) knows we’re a bunch of crazy moralists – they’ll give us this to chew on so we don’t concentrate on the real crime – Benghazi.

“Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!”

HondaV65 on November 13, 2012 at 8:15 AM

I don’t believe in coincidences here.

too convenient.

ted c on November 13, 2012 at 8:16 AM

No wonder Benghazi happened.

Everyone else is getting nooky.

Electrongod on November 13, 2012 at 8:04 AM

Obama went to bed.

dogsoldier on November 13, 2012 at 8:17 AM

So over the course of the last month we’ve seen the “retirement” of Carter Ham, David Petraeus, and now this guy? Move along, nothing to see here.

HarryBackside on November 13, 2012 at 8:17 AM

This is how dems deflect attention. They truly are the Kardashian party.

ctmom on November 13, 2012 at 8:18 AM

Operation “Fast and Furious” takes on a whole new meaning.

Electrongod on November 13, 2012 at 8:19 AM

Instead of being a rockstar to get laid, who knew it was being a General to get laid.

Oil Can on November 13, 2012 at 8:19 AM

Hey HotAir staff! Why don’t you guys take the reins here and we spend less thread time discussing who is in Petraeus’s pants and we concentrate more on the real issue at stake, namely what happened in Benghazi?

Because it is starting to become very obvious that someone high up has pulled the Sex Scandal Card and is desperately attempting to divert everyone’s attention away from the subject of Benghazi.

It would be nice to see you guys being among the few sites out there who aren’t falling for this diversion ploy and instead keep your attention laser-focused on the Benghazi issue instead.

pilamaye on November 13, 2012 at 8:19 AM

This is a distraction.

ted c on November 13, 2012 at 8:19 AM

Well quite a little coup going on. I’d even go as far to say an “ism spring”.
These top security clearanced pro’s puppeted by their personal life. (Hmm, could this be why the speaker of the house looks more like the house eunuch?) Lining them up in front of the bus and all the people watch. And no notice of the military vote denied-how can they deserve one really? With behavior like this? Damn near pack of lions…”of the senate”.
Well I’m not one for conspiracy theories anywho. ABC, NBC, CNN and the like would protect us from such.

onomo on November 13, 2012 at 8:20 AM

I would not be the least bit shocked if someone way high up is orchestrating this!

pilamaye on November 13, 2012 at 8:09 AM

the length these generals are willing to go to protect the president is astonishing, right?

methinks it’s just your regularly scheduled republican sex scandal, only more bizarre than usual.

sesquipedalian on November 13, 2012 at 8:20 AM

I don’t believe in coincidences here.

too convenient.

ted c on November 13, 2012 at 8:16 AM

I agree. In training I attended we were taught that enemy intelligence operatives would attempt to subvert us in a number of ways, including using women to get near us, in exactly the same way we are hearing about in this case.

We need to stay focused on Benghazi. There must be something very very ugly there that the Emperor does not want public.

dogsoldier on November 13, 2012 at 8:21 AM

I wonder how much better Afghanistan might have gone if our Generals weren’t so busy on their computers.

BettyRuth on November 13, 2012 at 8:21 AM

So over the course of the last month we’ve seen the “retirement” of Carter Ham, David Petraeus, and now this guy? Move along, nothing to see here.

HarryBackside on November 13, 2012 at 8:17 AM

Rear Adm. Charles Gaouette as well for…’inappropriate leadership judgment‘.

sharrukin on November 13, 2012 at 8:21 AM

By the way, does anyone else here think there’s something strange about the number of emails? It says 20,000 to 30,000 documents. Even if there are multiple documents in one email, this is still an enormous number. How long would it take to send someone 10,000 emails?

Dextrous on November 13, 2012 at 8:21 AM

As I wrote on the other thread:

It is like a coup in reverse. Instead of the generals taking out the civilian government, we may be witnessing the president taking out the generals.

Wow, cant believe I just wrote that.

esr1951 on November 13, 2012 at 7:00 AM

esr1951 on November 13, 2012 at 8:21 AM

pretty soon, we’re going to find a general or admiral who gave a kid a haircut in high school.

GEN Petraeus*** Benghazi **** GEN Allen

read between the lines…..

ted c on November 13, 2012 at 8:21 AM

No wonder Benghazi happened.

Everyone else is getting nooky.

Electrongod on November 13, 2012 at 8:04 AM

Obama went to bed.

dogsoldier on November 13, 2012 at 8:17 AM

With Mochelle :)…dang, it must be hard when 60year top bras are banging hawt and sultry chicks half their ages…

jimver on November 13, 2012 at 8:22 AM

Ed, Ace didnt write that. Gabe Malor did.

Valkyriepundit on November 13, 2012 at 8:22 AM

Hey HotAir staff! Why don’t you guys take the reins here and we spend less thread time discussing who is in Petraeus’s pants and we concentrate more on the real issue at stake, namely what happened in Benghazi?

pilamaye on November 13, 2012 at 8:19 AM

Has there been any new information regarding Benghazi? Do you just expect HA to rehash the same information? Sorry, but this is news worthy.

HarryBackside on November 13, 2012 at 8:22 AM

I wonder what GEN Stan McChrystal has to say about this….oh wait.

ted c on November 13, 2012 at 8:22 AM

According to a senior U.S. defense official, the FBI has uncovered between 20,000 and 30,000 documents — most of them e-mails — of “potentially inappropriate” communications between Allen and Jill Kelley, a 37-year-old Tampa woman whose close relationship with Petraeus ultimately led to his downfall.

20,000 to 30,000 e-mails? That seems excessive. How was he dealing with the affairs of his command when he had this affair going on???

And more importantly, how did he get to the week of his confirmation hearing without any of this coming up? The first question you get asked in the vetting process is- Is there anything we need to know? There is something else going on here but it is not clear what that is.

Happy Nomad on November 13, 2012 at 8:23 AM

“potentially inappropriate”? Like partially explosive or semi-flammable? Bill Clinton was only marginally sexual with Lewinsky too I think.

Rocks on November 13, 2012 at 8:23 AM

pretty soon, we’re going to find a general or admiral who gave a kid a haircut in high school.

GEN Petraeus*** Benghazi **** GEN Allen

read between the lines…..

ted c on November 13, 2012 at 8:21 AM

and don’t forget Gen Ham and Adm Gaouette.

jimver on November 13, 2012 at 8:24 AM

the length these generals are willing to go to protect the president is astonishing, right?

methinks it’s just your regularly scheduled republican sex scandal, only more bizarre than usual.

sesquipedalian on November 13, 2012 at 8:20 AM

And Benghazi? What happened there?

NotCoach on November 13, 2012 at 8:24 AM

Rear Adm. Charles Gaouette as well for…’inappropriate leadership judgment‘.

sharrukin on November 13, 2012 at 8:21 AM

Move along sharrukin. There’s nothing to see here.

HarryBackside on November 13, 2012 at 8:24 AM

Obama went to bed.

dogsoldier on November 13, 2012 at 8:17 AM

I said nooky…
not w**kie

Electrongod on November 13, 2012 at 8:24 AM

We’ve now turned into France.

Socialism and rampant infidelity amongst our masters.

Forward!

CorporatePiggy on November 13, 2012 at 8:24 AM

pilamaye on November 13, 2012 at 8:09 AM

I don’t know about current orchestration, but I wonder about Petraeus’s original appointment to CIA. The WH had to know about his affair through the background check–or else the FBI are the Keystone Kops. So, given that Obama loves to use J. Edgar Hoover dirt on people, I wonder whether the WH played stupid, and decided to play the affair card when they needed it–say to roll out Petraeus for the intelligence briefing to say it was the video. I think that briefing came out after the Rice shows, which didn’t pass the laugh test, but were still at a time when Obama was trying to buy time and at a time when the media were cooperating by trashing Romney for jumping the gun.

Here’s the ax I have to grind: Congress or someone should crucify this commander. Why? Our soldiers are getting murdered by the people they’re training while this guy’s getting his jollies sending countless e-mails to a paramour. You tell me that’s not affecting the guy’s effectiveness to lead. If I were the family of a dead soldier, I’d be screaming at my member of Congress and senator demanding redress.

BuckeyeSam on November 13, 2012 at 8:25 AM

Makes one wonder what the administration has on all the Senators and Congresscritters…

Four Americansm including an Ambassador die on the anniversary of 9/11, the administration lies repeatedly about the cause and the press and most Americans yawn. The purge of the military is currently underway and the focus is on sex and mistresses. We are a silly, shallow tabloid nation.

Fallon on November 13, 2012 at 8:26 AM

And to think that people were opposed to the repeal of DADT because teh gheys might not be able to keep it in their pants…

Valkyriepundit on November 13, 2012 at 8:26 AM

what is going on? What does Petraeus’ gal friend have on her ‘hard drive’???

white house is getting desperate and is now taking out petraeus friends.

ted c on November 13, 2012 at 8:26 AM

We’ve now turned into France.

Socialism and rampant infidelity amongst our masters.

Forward!

CorporatePiggy on November 13, 2012 at 8:24 AM

Coming soon, the Vendee or the Huguenots?

tom daschle concerned on November 13, 2012 at 8:27 AM

Good thing these people don’t have other peoples lives or national security in thier hands …. oh wait.
Reflects the leadership from the top. Vacations and golf anyone?

Garym on November 13, 2012 at 8:27 AM

Move along sharrukin. There’s nothing to see here.

HarryBackside on November 13, 2012 at 8:24 AM

The problem is that we have no idea who, or what we are looking at.
I just do not believe this is unrelated to the Petraeus testimony.

sharrukin on November 13, 2012 at 8:27 AM

Benghazi
Secret prison
rendition
t0rtur3!

ted c on November 13, 2012 at 8:27 AM

Is there nobody focusing on the safety and sovereignty of this country??? From Obama on down there is nobody paying attention. This is really scary and makes this country really vulnerable.

KickandSwimMom on November 13, 2012 at 8:28 AM

20,000 to 30,000 e-mails? That seems excessive. How was he dealing with the affairs of his command when he had this affair going on???

Happy Nomad on November 13, 2012 at 8:23 AM

Remember…Benghazi happened because of being bogged down with lots of emails – Sec. of Defense.

/

Electrongod on November 13, 2012 at 8:28 AM

the match is lit….

ted c on November 13, 2012 at 8:28 AM

Has there been any new information regarding Benghazi? Do you just expect HA to rehash the same information? Sorry, but this is news worthy.

HarryBackside on November 13, 2012 at 8:22 AM

Actually, I read at Daily Caller that Gingrich was on Greta last night saying that two networks supposedly have e-mails confirming that the WH order the Code Stand Down.

BuckeyeSam on November 13, 2012 at 8:28 AM

And Benghazi? What happened there?

NotCoach on November 13, 2012 at 8:24 AM

the election is over, calm down already. benghazi is not the story you’re trying to make it out to be.

sesquipedalian on November 13, 2012 at 8:29 AM

The FBI first notified the Pentagon of its investigation into Allen’s communications with Kelley on Sunday evening, according to the senior defense official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss details of the pending case.

How convenient that the FBI with-held “this notification” until after a presidential election. Great timing Mr. Holder.

Rovin on November 13, 2012 at 8:29 AM

It would be nice to see you guys being among the few sites out there who aren’t falling for this diversion ploy and instead keep your attention laser-focused on the Benghazi issue instead.

pilamaye on November 13, 2012 at 8:19 AM

Hey, at least now the MSM will have an excuse to mention Benghazi- at least in passing. But this story goes even deeper than affairs. This has been going on for months, it is a big deal for the FBI to be involved in an investigation that involves the Director of the CIA. There should have been all sorts of notifications as part of normal protocols within the national security organization. We need to know a few things like- did the rat-eared wonder get informed of this investigation (why or why not?) Who in the administration knew? Why was this all suppressed until after the election and who made the call to hide it from the public?

So yes, on one level it doesn’t really matter as a story about David Patraeus but it does matter as an indictment on this administration’s honesty and transparency.

Happy Nomad on November 13, 2012 at 8:30 AM

Now I finally know what they mean, when the brass talks about “more bang for the buck”.

Valkyriepundit on November 13, 2012 at 8:30 AM

Hey, look a shiny, sequin-covered squirrel; who needs to investigate security in Benghazi when we have a pretty, shiny squirrel?

herm2416 on November 13, 2012 at 8:10 AM

Not even pretty. Middle-aged, skanky squirrels.

Twenty or thirty thousand e-mails? Don’t any of these people have jobs? Who has time to read/write tens of thousands of e-mails and still do their jobs? No wonder we didn’t have assets in place to protect the Americans in Benghazi; all the brass were too busy reading/writing their damn e-mails. Does the “e” now stand for erotic?

AZCoyote on November 13, 2012 at 8:30 AM

what. the. f. i cant keep up. this story is so ridiculous that i don’t even know who cheated with who and who sent emails where…

Must find a way to blame the totally new practice of powerful men having affairs on Obama. Must. Find. A. Way.

libfreeordie on November 13, 2012 at 8:04 AM

liberals: must find a way to get conservatives to stop talking about benghazi, muts find a way…

Sachiko on November 13, 2012 at 8:30 AM

the election is over, calm down already. benghazi is not the story you’re trying to make it out to be.

sesquipedalian on November 13, 2012 at 8:29 AM

What happened in Benghazi? Why were 4 Americans left to die?

NotCoach on November 13, 2012 at 8:31 AM

the election is over, calm down already. benghazi is not the story you’re trying to make it out to be.

sesquipedalian on November 13, 2012 at 8:29 AM

You’re right. Who gives a crap about 4 dead Americans who should still be alive today?

Doughboy on November 13, 2012 at 8:32 AM

Pentagon to order issue of Burkas in 5, 4, 3…

MikeA on November 13, 2012 at 8:32 AM

Is there nobody focusing on the safety and sovereignty of this country??? From Obama on down there is nobody paying attention. This is really scary and makes this country really vulnerable.

KickandSwimMom on November 13, 2012 at 8:28 AM

No. Our government is looking more and more like Rome in the late Claudian era. They don’t give a rat’s backside and they’re all too busy …

You get where I’m going with that. It’s a circus and an orgy. Where are the clowns?

dogsoldier on November 13, 2012 at 8:32 AM

Y’know, if you read all the self-proclaimed political pundits on the internet, they all say that this soap opera will fizzle out eventually, that Americans are not interested in it, and that it really does not matter that 4 Americans were murdered in Benghazi.

Of course, these are some of the same opinionated individuals who say that “Social (Reagan) Conservatives are passe”, and, that we must “evolve”.

Funny, though. They also admonish those of us who follow Christ, telling us that we are busybodies, and, what goes on between consenting adults does not affect any one else.

Well…the General’s and Ms. Broadwell’s actions could affect our whole nation’s security.

Shoots that argument all to Blazes, doesn’t it?

kingsjester on November 13, 2012 at 8:32 AM

From Morrissey’s post, you’d never know our country’s disintegrating before our eyes. I’m getting the feeling more and more, that we’re being led by people who don’t really give a damn about anything or couldn’t see to care.

McChrystal
Hamm
Gauoette
Petraeus
Allen

And just before our Libya escapade last year, the Admiral in charge of the fleet in the Mediterranean I believe, was also relieved of command over boy/girl trouble aboard his ship.

It almost seems as if “Obmama” has been weeding out those loyal to the Constitution and replacing them with others loyal to him.

Are we witnessing a coup?

sartana on November 13, 2012 at 8:33 AM

According to a senior U.S. defense official, the FBI has uncovered between 20,000 and 30,000 documents — most of them e-mails — of “potentially inappropriate” communications between Allen and Jill Kelley, a 37-year-old Tampa woman whose close relationship with Petraeus ultimately led to his downfall.

“potentially inappropriate”, could they clarify this?

That doesn’t sound like an affair,too many documents, more like someone trying to allege an affair .

the_nile on November 13, 2012 at 8:33 AM

These old fart generals are wishing they could have sex…sounds like more sexting than anything. To me this has the unfortunate potential of being a spy ring and not a sex ring.

How can we find out more re: reasons for dismissals of Ham and Gaouette?

gracie on November 13, 2012 at 8:33 AM

And to think that people were opposed to the repeal of DADT because teh gheys might not be able to keep it in their pants…

Valkyriepundit on November 13, 2012 at 8:26 AM

Right. But every things okay now because gays have so much less indiscriminate sex than straights and scandals like this will never happen.

Rocks on November 13, 2012 at 8:33 AM

the election is over, calm down already. benghazi is not the story you’re trying to make it out to be.

sesquipedalian on November 13, 2012 at 8:29 AM

Agreed, Benghazi is a much bigger story than the White House is desperately trying to make us believe.

Trafalgar on November 13, 2012 at 8:33 AM

I would not be the least bit shocked if someone way high up is orchestrating this!

pilamaye on November 13, 2012 at 8:09 AM

The incompetence in this administration comes from the top all the way to the bottom. Perhaps because there is no leadership from the top. But not to worry, John Kerry may be on his way! /

scalleywag on November 13, 2012 at 8:33 AM

…they’re fluking everybody!

KOOLAID2 on November 13, 2012 at 8:34 AM

I just do not believe this is unrelated to the Petraeus testimony.

sharrukin on November 13, 2012 at 8:27 AM

I don’t blame you. Just to many high ranking military officials under investigation in a small time frame. If this is Obama attempting a cover up by forcing out high ranking members of the military, he’s playing with fire. Whether they are inside or outside of the military, these are still powerful men who are well respected through out the armed forces. They still have people loyal to them. I’m not suggesting anything sinister, but something like this would probably be enough to motivate other high ranking military officers to have an off the books chat with guys like Darrell Issa.

HarryBackside on November 13, 2012 at 8:34 AM

What happened in Benghazi? Why were 4 Americans left to die?

NotCoach on November 13, 2012 at 8:31 AM

Because the preezy was to sleepy to save them and he had a busy day in Vegas planned, SO HE WENT TO BED.

dogsoldier on November 13, 2012 at 8:34 AM

It is like a coup in reverse. Instead of the generals taking out the civilian government, we may be witnessing the president taking out the generals.

Wow, cant believe I just wrote that.

esr1951 on November 13, 2012 at 7:00 AM

The military in Turkey was once the secular balance that kept the Islamists from taking over. Erdogan has slowly been removing secularist generals and promoting Islamists. The balance is gone.

Wethal on November 13, 2012 at 8:35 AM

the election is over, calm down already. benghazi is not the story you’re trying to make it out to be.

sesquipedalian on November 13, 2012 at 8:29 AM

Really? You have inside information to back that claim up? Of course you don’t. You just want to keep the cover-up in place because it is clear that the details are becoming more damning to this administration with every new detail. For example, an FBI investigation of the CIA director should have been cause to notify the rat-eared wonder as a national security matter. Did that happen? Why was this deliberately suppressed until after the election? Who made the call for cover-up?

And what about the claim that the CIA was detaining people at the Benghazi annex? The EO that prohibits this has some huge loopholes.

Happy Nomad on November 13, 2012 at 8:36 AM

the election is over, calm down already. benghazi is not the story you’re trying to make it out to be.

sesquipedalian on November 13, 2012 at 8:29 AM

Bumps in the road.

“All In” will be a Best Seller next year

Electrongod on November 13, 2012 at 8:36 AM

Actually, I read at Daily Caller that Gingrich was on Greta last night saying that two networks supposedly have e-mails confirming that the WH order the Code Stand Down.

BuckeyeSam on November 13, 2012 at 8:28 AM

Well yeah. Duh. In Obama’s mind it’s better to lose 4 Americans than hidden Muslim prisoners. This all makes sense in a completely amateurish, Obama kind of way.

BettyRuth on November 13, 2012 at 8:36 AM

I’m wondering if Paula Broadwell knew something about Jill Kelley and was protecting petraeus from her????

ted c on November 13, 2012 at 8:36 AM

Wow ses

Benghazi is a story that needs to be told…. if it occurred under a gop president your buddies in the lsm would be crying impeachment

cmsinaz on November 13, 2012 at 8:36 AM

Spies…spies…spies…

albill on November 13, 2012 at 8:36 AM

Obama’s generals are just trying to fit in to his corrupt administration.

rplat on November 13, 2012 at 8:36 AM

John Kerry may be on his way! /

…he’s going to save the armed services by having all the top military brass…marry rich b!tches!

KOOLAID2 on November 13, 2012 at 8:37 AM

What happened in Benghazi? Why were 4 Americans left to die?

NotCoach on November 13, 2012 at 8:31 AM

Because the annex was a secret overseas US prison? Like the Ones Bammy said he shut down in 2009? Better to let it burn down and be ransacked?

Wethal on November 13, 2012 at 8:37 AM

How could they possibly write so many emails since the 6th?

rogerb on November 13, 2012 at 8:37 AM

Spies Like Us

ted c on November 13, 2012 at 8:37 AM

these may be captures of chat sessions, which would make more sense … but also mean that the commander of the Af-Pak theater spends a lot of time thinking about something other than victory.

Gosh gee whiz… it would also mean that one woman might be responsible for bringing down two generals. She turned her computer over to her friend in the FBI, never imagining that they would look at the tens of thousands of pages of correspondence with Allen????

Looking for ocean front property in Montana…

ProfessorMiao on November 13, 2012 at 8:38 AM

…they’re fluking everybody!

KOOLAID2 on November 13, 2012 at 8:34 AM

Thermal Dynamic Energy.

Or is it..

Kinetic Military Action?

Electrongod on November 13, 2012 at 8:38 AM

I can see where this is all leading.

“I am not a crook” — Richard Nixon, November 1973, as he denies any prior knowledge whatsoever of the break-in and its coverup, at the start of what will become the wide-ranging and wide-reaching Watergate scandal.

“The American people can trust me” — Barack Obama, November 2012, as he denies any prior knowledge whatsoever of Patraeus’ affair and the coverup of the Benghazi fiasco, at the start of what what will become the wide-ranging and wide-reaching Benghazigate scandal.

farsighted on November 13, 2012 at 8:38 AM

Great message we’re sending to our enemies.

This is the stuff that endears the U.S. to radical islam.

Cripes.

tru2tx on November 13, 2012 at 8:38 AM

Do the math:

Ken Gardner@kesgardner
20,000-30,000 pages of emails between Allen and Kelley? That’s 55-82 pages of emails per day, every day, for an entire year. Math is fun!
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Naturally Curly on November 13, 2012 at 8:39 AM

I’m not suggesting anything sinister, but something like this would probably be enough to motivate other high ranking military officers to have an off the books chat with guys like Darrell Issa.

HarryBackside on November 13, 2012 at 8:34 AM

It might be sinister, or it might just be Obama using the scandal to clean house of those who wants out of the way. Paula Broadwell seems to be the one who doesn’t fit here. The others all seem to lead back to the Kelley family. Maybe she was a woman scorned who decided to break the story open?

sharrukin on November 13, 2012 at 8:40 AM

Sorry, but this is news worthy.

HarryBackside on November 13, 2012 at 8:22 AM

It’s only newsworthy if the site you are on is some rag sheet gossip site like TMZ or the National Enquirer!

This whole sex scandal thing is a blatant attempt to divert attention away from Benghazi! You ever think what the families of the four Americans who were killed there are going through right now, seeing what is happening right now, how all the attention on Benghazi is being intentionally diverted away to some sordid sex affair?

Why don’t you ask them if they consider this sex scandal crap “newsworthy”? I think you’ll find they will somewhat beg to differ!

pilamaye on November 13, 2012 at 8:40 AM

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