Quotes of the day

posted at 11:02 pm on November 12, 2012 by Allahpundit

We were wrong.

We were wrong about the turnout.

We were wrong about the makeup of the electorate.

We were wrong about the advertising mix and message that would work.

We were wrong about the effectiveness of President Obama’s turnout mechanism.

The simple fact is Republicans spent more and achieved less than Democrats in 2012…

Some Republican analysts and strategists are rushing around with new explanations of what happened and what we must do.

The fact is less than an a week after the election they don’t know what happened and they can’t possibly know what we should do.

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The Republican Party — which, by the way lost women to President Obama by 12 points — needs to run away from its archaic stance. Yes, object to abortion. Yes, work to make it rare. But move on: Abortion is here to stay. (And while you’re at it, GOP, it might just be time also to abandon that vaunted “abstinence-only” policy that has been such a dismal failure.)

Second, gay marriage. On this, simply — who cares? America 2012 has enormous problems. Is this really an issue that matters to — anyone? Christians, two men getting married doesn’t affect your marriage in any way. Get over it. The Republicans are on the wrong side of history on this issue, and Mr. Obama swept in millions of young voters by his tolerance. It’s time to walk away.

On both issues, the GOP can make a clean break: As the party of individual freedom, the GOP can simply say it now sees that Americans — especially women — do have the right to choose their own path. In fact, the party espouses the freedoms enshrined in the Constitution, always has, so the turnabout won’t even raise an eyebrow.

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My age group is one pocket of voters who Republicans should be carrying with ease. Youth is all about rebellion and freedom and independence—things the Democratic Party preaches but doesn’t deliver. Behind their clever one-liners lurks a government shackle waiting to be slapped onto the wrists of every young voter they ensnare…

Shame on Republicans for not seizing the opportunity this time around. They could so easily define their brand as the true advocate of rebellion; a “stick it to the government” movement in the spirit of the 1960s hippie wave.

It wouldn’t be a smoke-and-mirrors, bait-and-switch trick either, like what goes on across the aisle. Republicans truly are the party of a less intrusive ruling class. Frame the Republican fundamentals—tax less, spend less—as a fresh populist approach instead of Grandpa’s adage, and the party is back in business.

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Every time I suggest better, smarter GOP outreach to young people, Hispanics, African Americans, and women, many in the GOP old guard wave their pointer fingers at me and insist that I am advocating pandering, that I am allying myself with the Left’s divide and conquer tactics.

Let me correct them in writing, as I have done in speech: Outreach is not pandering. They are completely different things. I am not talking about dividing the country up into special interest groups, pandering to voting blocs with speeches telling them what they want to hear in order to win votes. What I am talking about is taking the conservative message, a message that stands to benefit everyone in society, to places the GOP often ignores–local African-American and Hispanic church groups, feminist centers, and left-leaning college campuses, to name a few.

Will your message face resistance? Yes, and that’s okay. It gives you a chance to correct false, media-driven stereotypes about conservatives and conservatism. Will you convert the majority in one afternoon? Of course not; these stereotypes have been inculcated over decades. Opening hearts and minds is a process, not a lunch appointment. That doesn’t mean you don’t get to work. Andrew Breitbart understood that better than anyone.

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The darndest thing is I’m listening to all this handwringing and most of it is coming from a lot of people who’ve never really been conservative or supported conservatism. These people hated our ideas and values when we were winning and now choose this opportunity to sell us out the way they’ve always wanted. The conservative herd is headed off a cliff led by a consultant class that would otherwise now be swimming in pools full of dollar bills like Scrooge McDuck.

These people would have us believe that we must make fundamental changes to draw in new voters. We must exile social conservatives to bring in young people and single women. We must exile fiscal conservatives to bring in hispanic and black voters. With whatever is left from having exiled both, these geniuses would have us believe the Democrats in whose camp these groups already find themselves will just sit back and let it happen.

The Republican Party will never out Democrat the Democrats. Conservatives will never out liberal Liberals. We should not try.

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[T]hough I have my anxieties about the president’s next term, I also have a hunch the GOP dodged a bullet with Mr. Romney’s loss.

It dodged a bullet because a Romney victory would have obscured deeper trends in American politics the GOP must take into account. A Romney administration would also have been politically cautious and ideologically defensive in a way that rarely serves the party well.

Finally, the GOP dodged ownership of the second great recession, which will inevitably hit when the Federal Reserve can no longer float the economy in pools of free money. When that happens, Barack Obama won’t have George W. Bush to kick around.

So get a grip, Republicans: Our republican experiment in self-government didn’t die last week. But a useful message has been sent to a party that spent too much of the past four years listening intently to echoes of itself. Change the channel for a little while.

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“If Republicans do not do better in the Hispanic community,” [Sen.-elect Ted Cruz] said, “in a few short years Republicans will no longer be the majority party in our state.” He ticked off some statistics: in 2004, George W. Bush won forty-four per cent of the Hispanic vote nationally; in 2008, John McCain won just thirty-one per cent. On Tuesday, Romney fared even worse.

“In not too many years, Texas could switch from being all Republican to all Democrat,” he said. “If that happens, no Republican will ever again win the White House. New York and California are for the foreseeable future unalterably Democrat. If Texas turns bright blue, the Electoral College math is simple. We won’t be talking about Ohio, we won’t be talking about Florida or Virginia, because it won’t matter. If Texas is bright blue, you can’t get to two-seventy electoral votes. The Republican Party would cease to exist. We would become like the Whig Party. Our kids and grandkids would study how this used to be a national political party. ‘They had Conventions, they nominated Presidential candidates. They don’t exist anymore.’ ”

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At the same time, a Republican Party that moves too far leftward on immigration risks alienating its white working-class supporters, an easily disillusioned constituency whose support the party cannot take for granted. These voters already suspect that Republican elites don’t have their interests at heart: Mitt Romney lost last week because he underperformed among minority voters, but also because a large number of working-class whites apparently stayed home. If the party’s only post-2012 adjustment is to embrace amnesty, they aren’t likely to turn out in 2016 either.

What the party really needs, much more than a better identity-politics pitch, is an economic message that would appeal across demographic lines — reaching both downscale white voters turned off by Romney’s Bain Capital background and upwardly mobile Latino voters who don’t relate to the current G.O.P. fixation on upper-bracket tax cuts.

As the American Enterprise Institute’s Henry Olsen writes, it should be possible for Republicans to oppose an overweening and intrusive state while still recognizing that “government can give average people a hand up to achieve the American Dream.” It should be possible for the party to reform and streamline government while also addressing middle-class anxieties about wages, health care, education and more.

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The common theme here is that the current Republican economic message isn’t very compelling to any of these groups. If Republicans addressed that problem, they would find their numbers improving in all of these groups, and outside them too. White, working-class voters, who supported Romney for president but seem to have had low turnout, might have shown up in greater numbers if Republicans had retooled on economics.

Men and women, whites and Hispanics, the young and the middle-aged: All of them want politicians to offer a practical agenda to create jobs, raise wages, and make health care and higher education more affordable. Most of them aren’t wedded to liberal answers on those issues. They will take them over nothing, and that’s what Republicans have been giving them.

Republicans are unlikely to return to majority status, or even keep their current strength, unless they do better. Looking at voters in categories of race, sex and age won’t help them do that.

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Why isn’t soul searching underway on the left
? When the personality at the center of the cult leaves the stage in four years, Democrats will own his results without the benefit of his appeal. We can’t know quite what a second Obama term will bring, but if his first term is an indication, there’s little reason to expect his party will be crowing. The fiscal cliff is here but a whole landscape of steep drops comes next: the economic cliff (over which lies a possible double-dip recession), the Obamacare cliff (over which lies an unprecedented bureaucratic behemoth), the Iran cliff (over which lies a nuclear bomb), and so on. A precipice in every direction and a president who’s given us no reason to presume he can steer clear. Have Democrats stopped to wonder what initiatives they’ll have to defend when the dust settles in 2016?…

It is in the nature of personality cults to fail at most things beyond generating and disseminating propaganda. This inability is the result of two things. First, the personality’s popularity is not results-driven. Since adoration hasn’t been earned by achievement but by the advent of charisma, why kill yourself trying to get results. Second, few people are willing to candidly critique the personality at the center of the cult, so there is little chance of course correction. None of this bodes well for Barack Obama. And for the country’s sake, let’s hope it’s wrong.

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here’s the ‘dream team’ that barry had helping him

Simply identifying a person as a voter, as many volunteers did — “Mr. Jones, we know you have voted in the past” — acts as a subtle prompt to future voting, said Dr. Cialdini, a foundational figure in the science of persuasion. “People want to be congruent with what they have committed to in the past, especially if that commitment is public,” he said.

Many volunteers also asked would-be voters if they would sign an informal commitment to vote, a card with the president’s picture on it. This small, voluntary agreement amplifies the likelihood that the person will follow through, research has found.

this is considered the dream team of behavioral scientists. right. somehow thugs have known forever these tricks

so we’ve moved from here’s a couple of cigs…to we know how you vote. Good job barry

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/13/health/dream-team-of-behavioral-scientists-advised-obama-campaign.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimes&_r=1&

r keller on November 13, 2012 at 2:39 AM

Long day. Need sleep. :)

Goodnight all!

4Grace on November 13, 2012 at 2:44 AM

4Grace on November 13, 2012 at 2:38 AM
libs have been buying up the lower,mid,upper rockies
for 50 years now…taos, aspen, steamboat springs,
jackson hole, kalispell…money is taking over the rockies

going2mars on November 13, 2012 at 2:47 AM

I thought Montana used to be reliably red. Did a bunch of Cali people move there & politically pollute the joint?

4Grace on November 13, 2012 at 2:38 AM

Yes.
Sold our beautiful land to the highest(Hollywood types)bidder.

Plus lot’s of corruption here too, and that ever lovin pork the farmers and ranchers love so much.

IMO Rehberg ran a crappy campaign (voted against Ryan’s budget twice! arrrgh, “I will not cut medicare”… and had filed a lawsuit against the Billings fire dept, dumb.
Lot’s of back story, as I was talking about up thread.

I need to get to sleep, but if anyone’s interested go to Breitbart and type in Tester, Schwietzer and a couple of stories they ran about our problems, should pop up.
Oh and we have a George Soro’s monkey for Sec. of State.
See SOS project/George Soro’s.

Never thought of owning a gun, next week on my long list of prep.

Nite all.

MontanaMmmm on November 13, 2012 at 2:59 AM

The Republican Party will never out Democrat the Democrats. Conservatives will never out liberal Liberals. We should not try.

No you shouldn’t, at least not in the way the MSM/GOP establishment would like, but there is need for change. There is no reason why people in one state or region should have the right to force their values on other states and regions that don’t share them. That needs to change, Republicans need to stop talking about it and do it, which means throwing the GOP establishment, the zombie Bush/Romney machine, under the bus….Even if it requires a new party. Different regions have different, often incompatible ways of life, it isn’t logical to expect use of force to accomplish anything but resentment and hatred.

So everybody needs to stop trying!

Ron Paul 2016, in spirit if not in fact. The very man America needed in ’08 and ’12.

FloatingRock on November 13, 2012 at 3:04 AM

FloatingRock on November 13, 2012 at 3:04 AM

This is the first and last time I will respond to you.
Thanks to the “Libertarian” party MT has a Democrat for Gov.
Great work.

MontanaMmmm on November 13, 2012 at 3:08 AM

it took me a while to re-find this..but for the
CIA to tell me that they no longer are
in this line of work…is just not factual..
http://www.thenation.com/article/161936/cias-secret-sites-somalia#
and now gen pets pet mentions this about Libia
the CIA says….we dont do that….
its just not real…

going2mars on November 13, 2012 at 3:20 AM

MontanaMmmm on November 13, 2012 at 3:08 AM

I’m sorry you feel that way but I’m not responsible. Your party cheated in the primaries and even rigged votes at the national convention to disenfranchise people like me. If I am not welcome in the Republican Party, and I was not, then they certainly don’t get my vote. Do you think I am being unfair? Please explain how.

FloatingRock on November 13, 2012 at 3:29 AM

I’m sorry you feel that way but I’m not responsible. Your party cheated in the primaries and even rigged votes at the national convention to disenfranchise people like me. If I am not welcome in the Republican Party, and I was not, then they certainly don’t get my vote. Do you think I am being unfair? Please explain how.

FloatingRock on November 13, 2012 at 3:29 AM

Because sometimes adults do things that they don`t want to do because it`s the practical thing to do. It`s called being an adult, something I`ve seen little of from libertarians.

Because I can`t see much daylight between the libertarians and liberals you will never have my support and I will actively dissuade as many people as I can from joining you and yours.

And just stop. Ron Paul will NEVER do more than he has before. If Romney got massacred over binders, 47% and other petty things, then Paul`s newsletters will stop him before he starts.

Now we have to try to rebuild AND fight off Obama`s BS rather than use our full energy to rebuild. It will take longer and hurt more people.

But that`s okay. You feel good, just like a liberal. That`s all that matters.

kim roy on November 13, 2012 at 3:43 AM

kim roy on November 13, 2012 at 3:43 AM

You can smear Ron Paul with your racist lies but the fact is he didn’t write the newsletters so it is false to say that it is evidence he is a racist. In fact the evidence is all to the contrary. Your false smear is common on the right against Ron Paul, even though it is not true, in the same way that people like you smeared Palin and Reagan.

In spite of liars the likes of you, the fact is that Ron Paul has far more support of racial minorities than any of the other candidates, by far. Racial minority groups themselves have chosen Ron Paul, for you to pretend to have superior judgment is itself almost a form of racism, if you want to start hurling around charges like that.

FloatingRock on November 13, 2012 at 3:54 AM

kim roy on November 13, 2012 at 3:43 AM

The GOP operatives who locked out Ron Paul’s racial minority supporters from caucuses probably all did it because they thought Ron Paul was a racist. No, they thought, all of you black people and Hispanics, you’re not welcome here, go away, we’re locking the doors. Ron Paul is a racist and your kind aren’t welcome here!

It’s charge is absurd, and it was used by a lot of people like you to justify cheating his supporters and even rigging votes at the national convention. It’s un-Americana and unethical. People like you are the reason that the GOP lost to the worst president in American history.

FloatingRock on November 13, 2012 at 3:59 AM

You can smear Ron Paul with your racist lies but the fact is he didn’t write the newsletters so it is false to say that it is evidence he is a racist. In fact the evidence is all to the contrary. Your false smear is common on the right against Ron Paul, even though it is not true, in the same way that people like you smeared Palin and Reagan.

In spite of liars the likes of you, the fact is that Ron Paul has far more support of racial minorities than any of the other candidates, by far. Racial minority groups themselves have chosen Ron Paul, for you to pretend to have superior judgment is itself almost a form of racism, if you want to start hurling around charges like that.

FloatingRock on November 13, 2012 at 3:54 AM

His name was on the newsletters. That would be enough to demolish him in a NATIONAL election.

You can b!tch and moan about the unfairness of it all, but the fact of the matter is he had questionable content in his newsletters.

Try for once to think something through and understand the way the world works. Temper tantrums, screaming liar and the doing the equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears will not make reality go away.

The fact of the matter is that in this world stupid comments, questionable associations and sometimes even lies (I can see stupidity from my house) is enough to seriously damage and kill a candidacy.

He published racist content. End of story. End of sane belief of national office. Reality.

PS: Trying to call me a racist because I`m explaining reality to you is something a liberal would do. Just saying.

kim roy on November 13, 2012 at 4:06 AM

FloatingRock on November 13, 2012 at 3:59 AM

Yeah, okay. Whatever. Don`t forget your tinfoil hat on the way out.

And don`t forget your boogie man.

Out.

kim roy on November 13, 2012 at 4:10 AM

kim roy on November 13, 2012 at 4:06 AM

You are wasting you time, FR isn’t a rational person, you can’t have a rational dialog with him.

SWalker on November 13, 2012 at 4:11 AM

His name was on the newsletters. That would be enough to demolish him in a NATIONAL election.

kim roy on November 13, 2012 at 4:06 AM

No, you’re wrong, it wouldn’t. Even after Rush, Levin, FNC and others were repeating that lie over and over again Ron Paul was still tied as the most electable candidate against Obama, according to Rasmussen and others. Ron Paul appealed to the most diverse, big-tent of any of the other candidates, according to polls during the primaries.

And even if you’re right it still does not justify cheating and vote rigging and disenfranchising the very minority voters that you pretend to care about.

FloatingRock on November 13, 2012 at 4:13 AM

You are wasting you time, FR isn’t a rational person, you can’t have a rational dialog with him.

SWalker on November 13, 2012 at 4:11 AM

What am I not rational about. You can never back up anything you say with any evidence, you are such a loser.

FloatingRock on November 13, 2012 at 4:20 AM

SWalker made false allegations against me during the primaries on multiple occasions over a period of at least a few months, and was unable to provide any evidence in spite of being challenged to do so on multiple occasions, yet he continued to smear me with false allegations to try to harm my reputation and discredit me. SWalker couldn’t debate me using logic and reason and counter my arguments with his own, all he was capable of doing was lying.

That’s why I called him a loser. Well, that and because it’s because of people like him that Republicans lost the election to the worst president in history. An election outcome that I accurately predicted the outcome of way back during the primaries.

FloatingRock on November 13, 2012 at 4:28 AM

There are now 28 states petitioning to leave.

http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=302029443234230&id=112883682080346

28. Utah – 142
27. Kansas – 1,235
26. W. Virginia – 135
25. Pennsylvania – 6,355
24. Rhode Island – 124
23. Nevada – 4,978
22. Oklahoma – 47
21. Arizona – 9,798
20. Michigan – 11,465
19. Delaware – 3,662
18. New York – 10,334
17. Tennessee – 16,452
16. Colorado – 12,775
15. Mississippi – 11,157
14. N. Dakota – 8,066
13. Alabama – 17,006
12. Oregon – 9,460
11. New Jersey – 8,779
10. N. Carolina – 15,559
9. Georgia – 8,736
8. Indiana – 11,335
7. Montana – 9,010
6. Kentucky – 11,026
5. Florida – 17,841
4. Missouri – 9,288
3. Texas – 60,175
2. S. Carolina – 9,998
1. Louisiana – 26,305

Signatures needed by December 10, 2012 goal of 25,000

sharrukin on November 13, 2012 at 4:52 AM

Something tells me this petition drive was started by the White House itself. I think they’re trying to turn the heat up. I think he’s trying to ignite civil unrest on a much larger scale than he did in over the Zimmerman affaire in Florida. Not that the sentiment isn’t there naturally- but that they’re feeding it to use for there own purposes. Never let a crisis go to waste- or hesitate to manufacture one when necessary.

That supposedly “racist” anti-Obama gathering the night of the election is also suspicious. Possibly started to get a narrative rolling.

You have to watch out with these people. The devil in the White House is a fire-starter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmin5WkOuPw

sartana on November 13, 2012 at 5:06 AM

My age group is one pocket of voters who Republicans should be carrying with ease.

Arggggggg…..

Look at the CNN exit polls… Mitt Romney won young whiter voters 51-44… after McCain lost them 54-44…

Young white voters are the only swing white voters…

ninjapirate on November 13, 2012 at 5:32 AM

You can smear Ron Paul with your racist lies but the fact is he didn’t write the newsletters so it is false to say that it is evidence he is a racist.

FloatingRock

Romney didn’t say he was going to take women’s birth control away either, and yet, the majority of women thought he was going to do that and make them have rape babies.

What am I not rational about.

FloatingRock

Reality.

xblade on November 13, 2012 at 5:34 AM

Second, gay marriage. On this, simply — who cares? America 2012 has enormous problems. Is this really an issue that matters to — anyone? Christians, two men getting married doesn’t affect your marriage in any way. Get over it. The Republicans are on the wrong side of history on this issue, and Mr. Obama swept in millions of young voters by his tolerance. It’s time to walk away.

1. Gay marriage will destroy religious liberty… if you’re too stupid to know this and at least give a nod to it then you shouldn’t be a columnist.

2. Again, Mitt Romney won young whiter voters. The “youth” vote is a “myth”… there is an “ethnic” vote period and a young white vote… and Romney won that vote.

ninjapirate on November 13, 2012 at 5:35 AM

the ONLY time abortion is brought up is during a debate where a lib moderator asks ONLY gop candidates…every 2 years like clockwork…its election time, let’s bring up abortion and birth control to the gop folk…let’s NOT ask the dems about their stance or partial birth abortion and dear leader’s vote on that issue

cripe…i really hate the lsm/libs

cmsinaz on November 13, 2012 at 5:38 AM

Yes, nationally we score less than 40% of the Hispanic vote. However, the assertion is that we could, “never,” win the Hispanic vote. Well, a candidate that actually tried to get that vote managed about forty, despite the fact that its a predominantly lower income demographic.

WolvenOne

You mean like McCain, who got 31%? We will NEVER get the Hispanic vote. Ever. I’m not saying don’t try, I’m saying don’t screw over the country via amnesty for something that will never happen.

xblade on November 13, 2012 at 5:40 AM

pigeon holing voters into certain categories will only take the dems so far…everyone is expecting something for nothing….

may it bite this administration in the a$$

cmsinaz on November 13, 2012 at 5:42 AM

Ron Paul appealed to the most diverse, big-tent of any of the other candidates, according to polls during the primaries.

FloatingRoc

Yes, he did appeal to a lot of crazy people.

xblade on November 13, 2012 at 5:57 AM

I’m sorry you feel that way but I’m not responsible. Your party cheated in the primaries and even rigged votes at the national convention to disenfranchise people like me. If I am not welcome in the Republican Party, and I was not, then they certainly don’t get my vote. Do you think I am being unfair? Please explain how.

FloatingRock on November 13, 2012 at 3:29 AM

The very reason Paul should be banned from the GOP. Claiming libertarian ideas while using the GOP resources as a source of welfare but his wild eyed followers don’t believe in party unity.
Why don’t you and your legion of bad asses go form your own party and “do it your way”? But quit trying to act like you have some sort of moral high ground in ideas when the only connection with the GOP is for welfare/pr purposes.
On your own you are just another of the 15 third parties on the ballot that no on gives a *&*& about. Just another band of whiny “victims” claiming they alone possess truth and virtue.

Bradky on November 13, 2012 at 6:03 AM

cmsinaz on November 13, 2012 at 5:42 AM

The Democrat coalition is a tinder-box just waiting for a match.

They need 90% of the Black vote. Yet Blacks just joined Republicans in voting down Gay Marriage in California 2010. And there will be and end to the bribes that are used to buy that vote, not to mention Blacks will never vote in such numbers for a non-Obama Leftist.

The Hispanics(Mexican) demand Amnesty, yet Blacks oppose Amnesty probably even to a greater degree than Whites. Hispanics are also not on board with the radical social agenda of the New Left(formerly Democrat Party).

The Youth vote eventually grows up becoming in time, slightly less idiotic- while the true idiots don’t pro-create.

I shouldn’t forget that Blacks and Mexcians really aren’t that into each other. We’ve had a full-blown race-war going on in LA County that the media has been successful in blotting out.

Blacks and Hispanics both despise the White Leftists that keep them in line with bribes and promises of loot and one day will turn their angst on them.

The Left coalition as it is now, is nothing but a criminal gang kept united by the conspiracy to thieve, once the deal is done and there’s nothing further to be had- they’ll turn on each other.

The coalition of the Right, however, is comprised by people who are united by a common vision, with fealty towards binding documents like the Constitution, and respect for and adherence to the rites and traditions that gave rise to wisdom found with those documents.

We hold all the cards. That’s why they’re shouting so loudly now. Don’t they seem to be all up in a tizzeh?

sartana on November 13, 2012 at 6:07 AM

ninjapirate on November 13, 2012 at 5:35 AM

What’s your source for the “young white” stat? I can’t find any site that has broken the numbers down to that level of detail and would enjoy getting a closer look.

urban elitist on November 13, 2012 at 6:10 AM

sartana on November 13, 2012 at 6:07 AM

yes they do…

thanks buddy

cmsinaz on November 13, 2012 at 6:13 AM

I am a libertarian who compromised and voted for Romney because I understood the importance of getting rid of Obama. Republicans couldn’t compromise their own differences enough to vote for Romney. What does that say for my chances of ever voting republican again? Abortion, birth control gay marriage…when you choose to have government intervene in social issues, you have to answer sticky social questions that many don’t like. How’s this for an answer on the abortion question: For most Americans, abortion is a moral right, or a moral wrong. At a base level, abortion is a medical procedure. It is not the federal government’s purview to make decisions about medical procedures or moral rights and wrongs. It is the federal government’s responsibility to define when life begins for the purpose of defining murder. I believe that life begins at conception, but from a law enforcement perspective, it would be impossible to prosecute a first term abortion. Legally the federal government should define life as beginning in the second trimester, and therefore has an obligation to be the advocate for the unborn fetus.

tdarrington on November 13, 2012 at 6:29 AM

The fact is less than an a week after the election they don’t know what happened and they can’t possibly know what we should do.

Yeah, and we were wrong about the effectiveness of their cheating.

JellyToast on November 13, 2012 at 6:45 AM

Yeah, and we were wrong about the effectiveness of their cheating.

JellyToast on November 13, 2012 at 6:45 AM

OFA cheating wouldn’t have mattered if 5 million republs would have just gotten out of bed last tues.

tdarrington on November 13, 2012 at 6:50 AM

JellyToast on November 13, 2012 at 6:45 AM

You are so right, my brother: Liars, Petraeus, and graft…oh, my!
My take.

kingsjester on November 13, 2012 at 6:51 AM

kingsjester on November 13, 2012 at 6:51 AM

excellent KJ

‘the lyin’ king’
heh

cmsinaz on November 13, 2012 at 6:59 AM

…FLUKE YOU!!!…Floating Rock!!!

KOOLAID2 on November 13, 2012 at 7:00 AM

cmsinaz on November 13, 2012 at 6:59 AM

Thank you, ma’am! Please share.

kingsjester on November 13, 2012 at 7:02 AM

President Born-Alive Infant Protection Act………won’t be happy unit abortions can be performed on every street corner and every drive-thru in America.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/carney-re-elected-obama-takes-aim-at-religious-liberty/article/2513129?utm_source=Washington%20Examiner:%20Opinion%20Digest%20-%2011/12/2012&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Washington%20Examiner:%20Opinion%20Digest#.UKI17Hy9KK1

…….and yet he won Catholics by 5%.

Actual Churches are next. They will be targeted for “hate speech”.

And speaking of an election emboldened left……Our Progressive masters are building a 90 foot tall idol of Gold (and like old). Soon ALL will be called upon to subjugate their will to the state and bow at its wisdom.

I’m pretty sure, now that i think about it……Nebuchadnezzer was a lefty big gov kinda guy too.

PappyD61 on November 13, 2012 at 7:16 AM

Here’s a radical idea for the GOP: federalism.

Point out that the National government really isn’t that great in deciding the great moral and ethical decisions of our day: you are.

Point out that the federal government can’t live with in its means, and that for $2 trillion you should have enough government to run the US and if you want more: get your State to do it.

Point out that as all members of society gain benefit from being protected by the National level government, everyone should have to pay some taxes to the federal government on an exactly equal percentage basis, with even only the poor getting some break but still having to kick in at least $50/year with your States being able to pay for the truly destitute amongst us.

Compassion does not come from the hand of government, thriftiness is a value that is American and our government must reflect and in all cases all laws are to be applied equally without favor nor fervor to all US citizens.

The National government has no place saying to any citizen of any race, ethnic or monetary background that you are just incapable and need a break or a thumb on the scale, and that your liberty is the greatest thing you can exercise to better yourself in this life. Your States can figure out how to deal with those who have problems, the National scale is unsuitable to rendering judgment on such local affairs.

Bureaucrats are an anathema to all citizens and working for the government should not be a guaranteed life position. Therefore the most any citizen can work for the US government is 10 years done at the lowest pay rate in the US Armed Forces.

Set high level policy towards federalism.

Let people know that the goody-train will now have to be moved to the State level where it can be better handled and the federal government will phase out all welfare systems via block grants to the State which will be decreased steadily over a decade. That includes the special bonds held by SSA being given to the States to see if they can run that program based on its minimal assets. FICA is abolished. All special taxes are abolished. All write-offs, without exception, are abolished.

You are on your own.

The US government will keep the country protected from invasion and attack.

You are better suited on how to figure out the rest of this stuff than any bureaucrat, any agency, or any program at the National level.

YOU OWN THIS COUNTRY NOT THE GOVERNMENT.

THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT OWN YOU.

And, yeah, for this the Republican Party needs a thorough and complete overhaul to get it out of the 20th century. The Democrats are unwilling to move away from failures that impoverish Nations on a demonstrated scale that leads to catastrophe… that was known before we even got to the half-way mark of last century. The Democrats can’t buy a clue and actively reject them at every turn. Perhaps the Republican Party can hurry through the process of trying every failed alternative and, instead, go back to what WORKS.

That is a novel idea.

The party might want to try it some time.

ajacksonian on November 13, 2012 at 7:59 AM

OFA cheating wouldn’t have mattered if 5 million republs would have just gotten out of bed last tues.

tdarrington on November 13, 2012 at 6:50 AM

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OR voted absentee ballot……
OR voted mail in ballot
OR voted in the month long early voting…..

That apathy along with the 2-2.5 million seniors who continue to pass away each year(8-10 million every election) and are replaced with a younger voting group- will guarantee a lock on Presidency. Hate to beat a dead horse, but if Clinton wasn’t such a whore dog- 43 would have never won- and we would be going into years 20 thru 24 in the Presidential wilderness.

The future will not require sunglasses.

FlaMurph on November 13, 2012 at 8:05 AM

MontanaMmmm on November 13, 2012 at 2:17 AM

I was hoping you’d respond. Sorry I missed you last night. I fell asleep once the Advil sinus kicked in. Thanks for the info about the election up there. Canofor too for his links. I guess we shall see what states are going to do.

txhsmom on November 13, 2012 at 8:13 AM

Here’s a radical idea for the GOP: federalism.

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You are correct sir.

Federalism IS THE ONLY WAY TO SAVE THIS COUNTRY.

Mitt did try selling it…….because he knows the commies want their central govt. Poliburo, and will sell their vagynas to get it.

A commie SCOTUS though, could kill off the 10th amendment easily.
Oh wait…..

we’re already there, Da ?

FlaMurph on November 13, 2012 at 8:13 AM

Yes, he did appeal to a lot of crazy people.

xblade on November 13, 2012 at 5:57 AM

That’s a gross mistatement. Personally, I think the Ron Paul cultists are a little nuts but I was surprised at a number of successful, competent, sane business people and industrious, sane college students who believed in his message. Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water. That’s Obama’s schtick.

Fallon on November 13, 2012 at 8:33 AM

Allahpundit, about same sex marriage, it affects anyone who is religious and does not want to participate in accepting it. Once the relationship is accepted as equal (how you get that a man and woman who naturally and abundantly produce the next generation is the same as two women or two men are equal is beyond any logic I know), business owners get sued for discrimination. Easy to understand the agenda. You just look at “love”. I look at freedom of speech and action. Numerous people and businesses have already suffered from this restraint. I know you hate the idea of God but at least look at logic and reality.

mbabbitt on November 13, 2012 at 8:41 AM

QUOTE OF THE DAY

“I don’t think we lost it on those budget issues, especially on Medicare, we clearly didn’t lose it on those issues”

- Clueless Ryan

You will continue to lose by running people who are detached from reality.

Dave Rywall on November 13, 2012 at 9:21 AM

You will continue to lose by running people who are detached from reality.

Dave Rywall on November 13, 2012 at 9:21 AM

You are the “Go To” guy on reality, patriot.

tom daschle concerned on November 13, 2012 at 9:26 AM

“Finally, the GOP dodged ownership of the second great recession”

Yes, it’s going to crash, so why be left holding the bag?

And Romney dodged being personally destroyed for beating the Lightworker.

He and his family would go through hell, for no benefit to the country.

PattyJ on November 13, 2012 at 11:56 AM

Once again the Mad Jackass defeats the Cowardly Elephant.

Republicans need to stop talking about it and do it, which means throwing the GOP establishment, the zombie Bush/Romney machine, under the bus….Even if it requires a new party.

Floating Rock

Indeed. The party is only a means to ends. Republican victories do not necessarily bring about those ends–not for those of us who aren’t in the game for office! It may be time to go with a different mascot–a rattlesnake, maybe?

Olo_Burrows on November 18, 2012 at 6:34 PM

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