Open thread: Sunday morning talking heads

posted at 8:01 am on November 11, 2012 by Allahpundit

A quote from last week’s Sunday OT:

For the Democrats it’ll be the Axelrod and Plouffe Show, now in its 200th week or so. Reason 8,357 to hope Romney wins: If he does, we almost certainly won’t see either of them next Sunday.

You know how that worked out. Headlining “Face the Nation” this morning: The Axelrod victory lap. Expect to hear lots today, and not just from him, about how Obama’s ground game and ingenious microtargeting strategies kept a D+7 electorate at the zenith of Hopenchange in 2008 more or less intact after four years of Obamanomic dreck. There’ll be plenty of chatter too about the GOP’s demographic problem, so naturally Lindsey Graham and Jon Huntsman will appear and reiterate their fervent belief that it’s time to Tory-ize.

Here’s the line-up via National Journal. A glaring omission: Nate Silver. Surely there’s some Sunday host out there who’d benefit from having him patiently explain, once again, that if state polls are accurate in the aggregate, a statistical model that’s based on state polls will also be accurate.

Meet the Press hosts Sen. Charles Schumer, D-NY., Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., and Rep. Joaquin Castro, D-Texas,.

Face the Nation Obama senior adviser David Axelrod and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC)

This Week hosts Sens. Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga., and Patty Murray, D-Wash.

Fox News Sunday hosts Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., and Rep. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md., and Sen. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.

State of the Union hosts California Gov. Jerry Brown, former Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez, former Republican Presidential candidate Jon Huntsman and Campaign for Working Families president Gary Bauer.


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The talking head shows have proven utterly worthless. Especially since the unwashed masses only need to hear about the free stuff they can get. Who needs politics analyzed when we have reached that low point in history?

May their ratings plummet as there is no longer a need for it is a socialistic society.

I really hope that Glenn Beck’s cable network is able to take off. I think I will be subscribing to his Internet programming this week.

Rockshine on November 11, 2012 at 11:22 AM

I can usually bring myself to at least watch Fox…

Not yet.

Yellowdog12 on November 11, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Rule 4: Make opponents live up to their own book of rules.

Rule 6: A good tactic is one your people enjoy.

We’re in for a long guerrilla war folks. We all better start looking at the Alynsky playbook real carefully.

Two easy examples:

The Left loves the UN. The UN sent election observers here and they were shocked (Shocked!) that people could vote in many parts of the US without any form of ID. So follow up on the Universal Wisdom of the UN – voter ID everywhere. The UN says it’s the Right Thing. Who are we to disagree?

Here in Minny the amendment banning Gay Marriage was defeated. The Donks now hold both chambers of the Legislature and the Governorship yet today the DFL is putting the brakes on “legislating” Gay marriage into law. Why – they are wary of going on the record -especially the new, rural legislators.

The GOP needs to PUSH and PUSH HARD for votes on Gay Marriage on libertarian principles. Then, they vote present.

Gay Marriage fails because the DFL will not get a majority, and they can become, on the record, the party of hateful homophobia. The GOP effectively washes their hands of the issue, sits back and it’s “pass the popcorn time.”

We’re only scratching the surface here gang – let the good times roll!

Bruno Strozek on November 11, 2012 at 11:29 AM

I can usually bring myself to at least watch Fox…

Not yet.

Yellowdog12 on November 11, 2012 at 11:28 AM

…I have to tell my bride to turn the volume down…when I can hear it…

KOOLAID2 on November 11, 2012 at 11:32 AM

I can usually bring myself to at least watch Fox…

Not yet.

Yellowdog12 on November 11, 2012 at 11:28 AM

I haven’t watched one thing that was remotely related to a news cast. No papers either. Can’t wait for the coronation in Jan.

sandee on November 11, 2012 at 11:40 AM

ot…JugEars is playing golf today!

KOOLAID2 on November 11, 2012 at 11:42 AM

The talking head shows have proven utterly worthless. Especially since the unwashed masses only need to hear about the free stuff they can get. Who needs politics analyzed when we have reached that low point in history?

May their ratings plummet as there is no longer a need for it is a socialistic society.

I really hope that Glenn Beck’s cable network is able to take off. I think I will be subscribing to his Internet programming this week.

Rockshine on November 11, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Obama avoided it all , and won. Media didn’t complain though, for some reason…

the_nile on November 11, 2012 at 11:42 AM

I won’t be watching this dog and pony show today….or maybe any other day.

lilium479 on November 11, 2012 at 11:43 AM

A lesson for the GOP from 149 Years Ago

Pickett’s Charge was an infantry advance from Seminary Ridge across Emmittsburg Road toward A “Corpse of Trees” and a stone wall before reaching Taneytown Road.

The Union artillery first fired conventional shells which were meant to shock and awe in addition inflicting casualties since equipment and body parts were hurled long distances in the intense explosions. The shot was also more accurate. As they continued slowly marching the hundreds of yards in open ground, the Confederate officers ordered the men to consolidate and hold ranks.

As they came closer, the artillery shot was switched to canister with odd pieces of metal sent by their powder charges hurling in all directions and cutting cleanly through the bodies of walking soldiers. Some of the metal was so hot that it burned the uniforms of soldiers in both entrance AND exit wounds. Still the march continued.

The officers ordered a consolidation so the forward men’s bodies could absorb the infantry musket rounds which were sure to come from the Union soldiers now waiting behind the wall ahead.

To instill confidence , the officers stepped in front of what remained of their units as they approached the wall and the “corps of trees”. Some shouted or raised their swords or waved their arms in the air to draw fire. One Confederate officer put his hat on his sword and held it aloft while leading his tiny group of soldiers.

Today, a teacher takes a leadership class on this walk. I don’t believe that it is The War College but it could be.

He explains that the actions of the officers show the difference between Management and Leadership.

In addition to Gettysburg, there is a small museum in Richmond with artifacts from that battle. There are also tributes in Bill O’Reilly’s book about Lincoln.

Let us remember and admire the men on on sides of that war.

IlikedAUH2O on November 11, 2012 at 11:59 AM

It’s finally over…!
I spent the morning organizing some recyclables, doing some vacuuming, and watching an old episode of Shark Tank.

And following a couple of threads here & elsewhere.

22044 on November 11, 2012 at 12:06 PM

It’s very difficult for me to watch any TV news, even Fox when the net shows 13 wards in Philly had a 99% vote for Obama and Allen West has 114% voting against him. Msm is mum, this mess in Benghazi takes a rear seat where it is rife with corruption and political careers are hanging by a thread and four American souls are ignored, kinda shows what’s important to the “Land of Laws”.

mixplix on November 11, 2012 at 12:08 PM

Surprised Hannity wasn’t a guest on any of these shows as his stance on amnesty has apparently “evolved.” What a putz.

SheVee on November 11, 2012 at 12:34 PM

ot…JugEars is playing golf today!
KOOLAID2 on November 11, 2012 at 11:42 AM

Dude…. Let it go… Does it smooth the pain from the spanking? If so, don’t mind me..

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on November 11, 2012 at 12:43 PM

Posted this elsewhere on another thread. Makes my blood boil to see all this gathered together in one place to reinforce what many have thought. This is the 4th article down, with even more egregious remarks below.

Vote fraud alert: One out of five registered Ohio voters is bogus

Vote fraud is no big deal, right? It hardly ever happens. It’s so rare that it’s not even worth discussing. Anyone who claims to take the integrity of our ballots seriously is cynically exploiting phantom fears for the purpose of suppressing the Democrat-loving minority vote.

To keep that silly narrative alive, it’s important not to read the Sunday edition of the Columbus Dispatch, in which readers were informed that “more than one out of every five registered Ohio voters is probably ineligible to vote.”

Furthermore, “in two counties, the number of registered voters actually exceeds the voting age population: Northwestern Ohio’s Wood County shows 109 registered voters for every 100 eligible, while in Lawrence County along the Ohio River it’s a mere 104 registered per 100 eligible.”

31 more counties report over 90 percent voter registration, which is a good 20 percent higher than the national average. The Buckeye State sure is civic-minded! Well, except that 1.6 million of the 7.8 million registered voters in the state haven’t voted in at least four years. So I guess they were civic minded, once upon a time. Never fear – I’m sure plenty of those “inactive” voters will reactivate themselves just in time for Barack Obama’s re-election.

You might think these astonishing statistics indicate a crisis-level voter registration problem requiring immediate attention, particularly since this is 2012, not 1912, and modern technology gives us extremely potent tools for accurately managing massive amounts of data. But Attorney General Eric Holder disagrees. Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted sent Holder a letter back in February, warning that “common sense says that the odds of voter fraud increase the longer these ineligible voters are allowed to populate our rolls… I simply cannot accept that.” Husted said existing federal regulations “limit Ohio’s ability to remove ineligible names, thereby increasing the chance for voter fraud.”

No one from the Justice Department ever responded. Conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch, which called Ohio’s voter registration train wreck to Husted’s attention, is now suing him for failing to take action, beyond issuing a “directive” to remove ineligible voters that Judicial Watch describes as “all bark and no bite,” since there is no evidence that anything was actually done.

Judicial Watch has already filed a similar lawsuit against the State of Indiana, and says other states with disturbing levels of ineligible registered voters include Mississippi, Iowa, Missouri, Texas, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Florida, Alabama, California, and Colorado. Florida’s struggle to clean up its rolls, in the face of active hostility from Eric Holder’s Justice Department, has already made headlines.

Nationwide, the Pew Center for the States estimates about 24 million ineligible voter registrations, including “more than 1.8 million dead people listed as voters; about 2.75 million with voter registrations in more than one state; and about 12 million voter records with incorrect addresses, meaning either the voters moved or errors in the information make it unlikely any mailings can reach them.”

http://thewildernessofmirrors.wordpress.com/2012/11/08/serious-question-here-what-if/#comment-3288

avagreen on November 11, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Dude…. Let it go… Does it smooth the pain from the spanking? If so, don’t mind me..
Can.I.be.in.the.middle on November 11, 2012 at 12:43 PM

You.are.illiterate.

Sherman1864 on November 11, 2012 at 1:40 PM

NPR just sent out an article bashing Fox News’ election night coverage. They miss Brit Hume.

All you guys who did not care to back Mitt…

You realize that we are stuck with NPR, too?

IlikedAUH2O on November 11, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Perhaps now is a good time to talk to those members of your church who say bad things about Mormonism or Catholicism or other religions.
Illinidiva on November 11, 2012 at 9:33 AM

I sat at my parish’s Saturday Vigil Mass wanting to punch in the face those Catholics I knew at that same Mass who voted for Obama. We did not get a lecture from our pastor last week about who or who not to vote for, just a request to say a prayer for God’s guidance before casting it. When the inevitable SHTF, I am going to be pointedly telling them “I told you so.”

Our goal over the next four years is to make sure that America hates the Democrats so much that even a fluffy candidate like Rubio can win.. M’kay. So I say over the fiscal cliff.. no more free stuff.

Illinidiva on November 11, 2012 at 10:01 AM

This is a good idea. We need to figure out some plan for doing so.

PatriotGal2257 on November 11, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Dude…. Let it go… Does it smooth the pain from the spanking? If so, don’t mind me..
Can.I.be.in.the.middle on November 11, 2012 at 12:43 PM

We’ll let it go when you apologize for every instance of ridicule for Dubya’s “vacations” to his own house.

Nutstuyu on November 11, 2012 at 2:43 PM

http://thewildernessofmirrors.wordpress.com/2012/11/08/serious-question-here-what-if/#comment-3288

avagreen on November 11, 2012 at 12:59 PM

The election results matched the pre-election polls exactly (only the partisan Republican pollsters manipulated the numbers to fool the gullible). 100% of the dozens and dozens of independent polls told you what reality was for those who were willing to listen. The election apparatus in Ohio and Florida and Pennsylvania and Virginia is run by Republicans. Reality is a hard thing to accept. Take off you tinfoil hat and realize American is different than what you believe.

ZippyZ on November 11, 2012 at 3:14 PM

I sat at my parish’s Saturday Vigil Mass wanting to punch in the face those Catholics I knew at that same Mass who voted for Obama. We did not get a lecture from our pastor last week about who or who not to vote for, just a request to say a prayer for God’s guidance before casting it. When the inevitable SHTF, I am going to be pointedly telling them “I told you so.”

Our goal over the next four years is to make sure that America hates the Democrats so much that even a fluffy candidate like Rubio can win.. M’kay. So I say over the fiscal cliff.. no more free stuff.

Illinidiva on November 11, 2012 at 10:01 AM

This is a good idea. We need to figure out some plan for doing so.

PatriotGal2257 on November 11, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Bitter clingers indeed…letting your hatred fuel you…not the way to convince people to join your cause.

ZippyZ on November 11, 2012 at 3:23 PM

Haven’t had cable television in over 6 years.
Have I missed anything?

MichaelGabriel on November 11, 2012 at 5:22 PM

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