Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on November 10, 2012 by Allahpundit

“He doesn’t have to play to get reelected anymore, which is huge,” said Chicago supporter Jim Slama, who first met Obama in 2001. “It frees him to be who he is.”…

“I’m hopeful,” said Slama. “He’ll try to play to the middle, but he’s got the Tea Party to deal with, and he can take out his baseball bat and wail away and he won’t have to worry about the implications of reelection.”

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“Millions of American evangelicals are absolutely shocked by not just the presidential election, but by the entire avalanche of results that came in,” R. Albert Mohler Jr., president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, in Louisville, Ky., said in an interview. “It’s not that our message — we think abortion is wrong, we think same-sex marriage is wrong — didn’t get out. It did get out.

“It’s that the entire moral landscape has changed,” he said. “An increasingly secularized America understands our positions, and has rejected them.”…

The evangelical share of the population is both declining and graying, studies show. Large churches like the Southern Baptist Convention and the Assemblies of God, which have provided an organizing base for the Christian right, are losing members.

“In the long run, this means that the Republican constituency is going to be shrinking on the religious end as well as the ethnic end,” said James L. Guth, a professor of political science at Furman University in Greenville, S.C.

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This year Democrats’ arguments on values were heard. This was a “values” election as strident as the ones from culture wars past in which Christians marched against subsidies for Mapplethorpe, creationists vied for seats on Kansas school boards, and William Bennett demanded to know where the outrage was. What was different about this year’s culture war is that Republicans lost it

Obama has made a lot of mistakes, but running the country as a business is not one of them. Like Bush before him, he is always stressing how America is the only place where membership in the nation derives not from race, ethnicity, or religion but from belief in an idea.

The bright side of that vision is a beautiful thing, but there is a dark side to it, too. If America is an idea, you can belong to it regardless of your ethnic background. But you cannot belong to it regardless of your beliefs. A tendency to lecture the American public on what they are supposed to believe has become a constant in the president’s oratory. “That’s who we are,” he said in his victory speech on Tuesday. He was talking about the need to help an 8-year-old girl with leukemia, a fairly uncontroversial proposition. But he uses this trope even when talking about the tiniest velleities, usually expanding it to “that’s not who we are as a people.” If there is one disturbing truth that Obama has always understood, it is that a winning American campaign is always about values, is never lukewarm, and is generally a bit scary-looking to foreigners and losers.

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In my own state, where the Democrats ran the board on election night, the “Live Free or Die” license plates look very nice when you see them all lined up in the parking lot of the Social Security office. But, in their view of the state and its largesse, there’s nothing very exceptional about Americans, except that they’re the last to get with the program. Barack Obama ran well to the left of Bill Clinton and John Kerry, and has been rewarded for it both by his party’s victory and by the reflex urgings of the usual GOP experts that the Republican party needs to “moderate” its brand.

I have no interest in the traditional straw clutching — oh, it was the weak candidate . . . hard to knock off an incumbent . . . next time we’ll have a better GOTV operation in Colorado . . . I’m always struck, if one chances to be with a GOP insider when a new poll rolls off the wire, that their first reaction is to query whether it’s of “likely” voters or merely “registered” voters. As the consultant class knows, registered voters skew more Democrat than likely voters, and polls of “all adults” skew more Democrat still. Hence the preoccupation with turnout models. In other words, if America had compulsory voting as Australia does, the Republicans would lose every time. In Oz, there’s no turnout model, because everyone turns out. The turnout-model obsession is an implicit acknowledgment of an awkward truth — that, outside the voting booth, the default setting of American society is ever more liberal and statist.

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In future, our elections will be like those in Britain or New York. We will be presented with a choice between a statist liberal and an out-there uber-liberal. And with the uber-liberal enjoying the full backing of the media and Hollywood, it’ll by no means be an easy win for the ordinary Mike Bloomberg or David Cameron-style liberal, who will be portrayed as a heartless plutocrat if he happens to come from money, or as a hopeless rube if he happens to come from nowhere…

The school choice movement will be killed off as “draining resources from public education,” which really means it harms a core Democratic interest group, the teachers’ unions. The simple matter of requiring voters to supply I.D. will be forbidden, not because it doesn’t make sense, the voters don’t want it or because it’s unconstitutional, but because it harms Democratic party interests. The two parties will fall all over each other in their efforts to mollify illegal immigrants. The new health-care entitlement will become increasingly onerous and costly, with all discussion limited to how best to “save” it, until one day employers’ efforts to work around it cause a frustrated government to convert it to a full-on single-payer Socialist scheme.

I didn’t expect this would ever happen to my country, and certainly not so fast, but we are now a decadent European social welfare state, sure to be accompanied by European levels of economic stagnation, taxation, welfare rolls, unemployment and perpetually misallocated resources such as subsidies to favored companies. Military irrelevance will soon follow as the staggering costs of the cradle-to-grave socialist state grow exponentially. Iran will soon have nuclear capability, to be followed in short order by its Middle Eastern neighbors, folllowed shortly by widespread proliferation of nuclear arms to terrorist groups.

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If we are to lose America as it has been, could we not ask that it be lost to something better than this? Our president, a Narcissus masquerading as a Demosthenes, makes big speeches packed full of little ideas, and he is applauded wildly for it. His, says Marco Rubio, “are tired and old big-government ideas. Ideas that people come to America to get away from. Ideas that threaten to make America more like the rest of the world, instead of helping the world become more like America.” I will vouch for the verity of these words. I have watched how these sorry ideas play out in the real world, and it is not pretty: They make people’s lives worse, and yet simultaneously convince them that any reform will kill them — a fatal combination. Americans should avoid this path sedulously, for that way lies decline…

And yet, he has now won twice. To paraphrase Oscar Wilde, to elect such a man once may be regarded as a misfortune, but to elect him twice looks like carelessness. (Or, rather, criminal negligence.) This year, certainly, was not the perfect storm of 2008. Then, novelty and redemption played a role; this time, an insipid bore ran on an openly statist platform and won the day in a country that is supposed to be “center right.” Maybe it no longer is. In 1980, when faced with a set of policies that demonstrably hadn’t worked and a president who wanted to take America leftward, America chose a different path; in 2012, it doubled down. That says a lot about a people. The central problem, then, is not that Obama will be president for the next few years, but that the American people — knowing him — chose to reelect him. Even if this is put down to a failure of Romney’s turnout operation or Hurricane Sandy or Obama’s brilliant targeting, it does not say much for their commitment to classical liberalism that a significant group of Americans stayed away from the fight because they didn’t like Mitt Romney. That this was not a clear-cut repudiation of the president should sound the alarm.

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Obama is taking us toward the European way at very the moment that model is collapsing. This may mean total decline, but it may also mean a painful process of cultural reconstitution.

The West was already headed for demographic-economic Armageddon. Even a Romney victory wouldn’t have changed that. The real test will be what happens when the crisis truly hits, sometime in the next decade. Fighting for conservative/classically-liberal solutions until that moment will make all the difference in how America weathers the storm. The Western welfare state as currently constituted cannot survive. It will shortly move from inevitable to impossible.

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Thinking about the present day, if conservatives are right and what Walter Russell Mead has called the “blue state model” is indeed collapsing, then the GOP might not be that far away from another moment. At the least, the fact that it did not come in 2012 does not mean it is not coming.

And conservatives should be ready for it. For starters, they should ignore the triumphalists on the left espousing a permanent shift leftward. Nonsense! Yes, conservatives must do a better job of reaching out to Hispanics, but some perspective is necessary. The incumbent president is set to take in millions of fewer votes than he won in 2008. He limped across the finish line by dint of vicious demagoguery, which lowered turnout among white voters who have voted Republican in the past. Put simply, the GOP is still very much in this ballgame.

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Now we need a majority in Congress to listen – and they should start by making sure taxes don’t go up on the 98% of Americans making under $250,000 a year starting January 1. This is something we all agree on. Even as we negotiate a broader deficit reduction package, Congress should extend middle-class tax cuts right now. It’s a step that would give millions of families and 97% of small businesses the peace of mind that will lead to new jobs and faster growth. There’s no reason to wait.

We know there will be differences and disagreements in the months to come. That’s part of what makes our political system work. But on Tuesday, you said loud and clear that you won’t tolerate dysfunction, or politicians who see compromise as a dirty word.


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We tried to look it up on line but found nothing. So glad to know that we aren’t losing our minds completely!

Nikkia2112 on November 10, 2012 at 10:31 PM

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/region/N_America.php

When you feel an earthquake, this is the place to go. Info usually goes up quickly.

MichaelGabriel on November 10, 2012 at 10:44 PM

orbitalair on November 10, 2012 at 10:42 PM

There’s nothing humorous about calling for mass murder, you clown.

wargamer6 on November 10, 2012 at 10:44 PM

I’m a city girl so it makes it even harder moving since even the cities in most of the red states are blue.

Think I’m going to have to compromise and do the burbs thing if I make a move. No sense moving from blue to blue you know?

gophergirl on November 10, 2012 at 10:37 PM

That does make it tough. However, I’m sure the right place is out there for you. Maybe you can find someplace a bit warmer, eh? Brrrr it’s cold up your way!

Nikkia2112 on November 10, 2012 at 10:45 PM

So you alls answer now is to wait and vote some more?

orbitalair on November 10, 2012 at 10:34 PM

Hey, I grew up behind the Iron and unlike you, I’m still here.

Let me be the first to say adios from HA.

JPeterman on November 10, 2012 at 10:45 PM

Oh that is funny! I guess they wouldn’t approve that my 8 year old son received his first .22 for Christmas last year, huh? His stocking was full of ammo. :)

Nikkia2112 on November 10, 2012 at 10:42 PM

You did what? Arm an innocent child, with a rifle? And, ammo, too? Oh, don’t tell them that up in Maine, they’ll have you arrested for child abuse.

TXUS on November 10, 2012 at 10:47 PM

Here’s some backward bumper stickers

One

Two

Three

gophergirl on November 10, 2012 at 10:47 PM

Not all of us read every single post, or some get missed while doing a quick scan.

Bishop on November 10, 2012 at 10:40 PM

For sure. Didn’t see the original post, but saw the next 20 posts of some troll soiling his pants.

MichaelGabriel on November 10, 2012 at 10:48 PM

I caught this,two days ago,and it was my thinking as well,back in the Primaries,with Herman Cain!!

ZoNation:

Obama Represented and Won (Nov. 8, 2012)
*****************************************

Video:(7:21)

http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&mpid=84&load=7685

canopfor on November 10, 2012 at 10:49 PM

Just to detour for a sec, I emailed my congressman and called on him to not elect Boehner as speaker. I’m going to try and do that to as many R congressmen in Texas that I can. I don’t know if it will help, but I saw the suggestion on another site. What can it hurt? Roy Beck at NumbersUSA has always said that the calls and emails matter. That’s essentially how Bush’s amnesty was derailed in 2006 and 2007.

TxAnn56 on November 10, 2012 at 10:49 PM

Geez. I’m off to work on my bestselling novel:

Biggles-bottom Clenches!

— until this thread virus runs it’s course.

//lurkmode

Axe on November 10, 2012 at 10:50 PM

see you in the breadlines.

Goodnight.

portlandon on November 10, 2012 at 10:50 PM

I as well as others still have some b i tchin’ to do. But it’s almost time to quit.

I don’t think we can save the whole United States of America. But we can save our turf–the red turf: http://obamavoterfraud.blogspot.com/

That site talks about the fraud, but I cite it to show how much turf we have.

davidk on November 10, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Going Galt.

John Galt didn’t just disappear from the world completely.
In fact, he worked actively to bring about the inevitable collapse of society brought on by the looters.
His goal was to achieve the collapse.

John Galt was never about withdrawing, he was about destroying the corrupt. Dagney Taggart correctly called him The Destroyer.

I’ve been in this mode for about a year.

MichaelGabriel on November 10, 2012 at 10:23 PM

You bet, and Schadenfreude pure!

Schadenfreude on November 10, 2012 at 10:51 PM

gophergirl on November 10, 2012 at 10:47 PM

Thanks! When I clicked on the first link, a pop-up informed me that I wouldn’t have to pay sales tax on it in Pennsylvania. LOL!

PatriotGal2257 on November 10, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Sorry for posting more “despair”, but maybe Socialism really is inevitable, as globalization continues and technology progresses. It’s not just America but this trend is engulfing the whole world. Even the Red Chinese can’t avoid this and will probably need to implement some sort of welfare system to avoid open rebellion. But hopefully this will be just a phase or transition in human history. Maybe one day in the future, when poverty and “inequality” is no longer such a big an issue, we can go back to the principles of liberty and freedom from government.

tkyang99 on November 10, 2012 at 10:52 PM

I live in MN – I feel your pain.

gophergirl on November 10, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Although the pain became a little less today! Jesse is going to JAIL, h/t: drudge.

Gus Savage, Mel Reynolds, and now Jesse Jackass, Jr. Man, my district sure knows how to pick ‘em. My guess, his wife will run for his seat. Of course, she is an alderman, who represents her ward from DC!, but she will win handily.

herm2416 on November 10, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Boomer_Sooner, you fool, here’s the address you write to

tips@hotair.com

No one here agrees with that moron.

Schadenfreude on November 10, 2012 at 10:53 PM

canopfor on November 10, 2012 at 10:10 PM

I like her..

Not sure why……

:)

Electrongod on November 10, 2012 at 10:12 PM

Electrongod:Yup:)

canopfor on November 10, 2012 at 10:53 PM

Read these and begin to ponder the possibilities.

http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2012/11/10/america-at-the-brink/comment-page-1/#comment-2184446

davidk on November 10, 2012 at 10:53 PM

gophergirl on November 10, 2012 at 10:47 PM

Speaking of bumper stickers…I was at Target today and pulled up next to a car with an Obama bumper sticker, which is rare in this area. It also had a sticker that read something like, “My dog rides inside. Dogs against Mitt. com.” Get this though, it was a Prius (naturally) and there was a huge black lab squished in the tiny trunk area of the car. Oh the irony!

Nikkia2112 on November 10, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Boomer_Sooner on November 10, 2012 at 10:11 PM

Why don’t you try sending them an email at the contact on the upper right of the page —

instead of re-posting the ‘offending’ post in it’s entirety and whining about it?
How many more times are you going to repost it?
It’s starting to look as though you want it to be seen more.

Solaratov on November 10, 2012 at 10:54 PM

My Christian brothers and sisters, Oswald Chambers said “Prayer does not fit us for the greater work; prayer is the greater work.”

Then the LORD appeared to Solomon at night and said to him, “I have heard your prayer and have chosen this place for Myself as a house of sacrifice. If I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain, or if I command the locust to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among My people, and My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land. Now My eyes will be open and My ears attentive to the prayer offered in this place.”

davidk on November 10, 2012 at 10:54 PM

herm2416 on November 10, 2012 at 10:52 PM

It’s the little things that make you feel better sometimes.

gophergirl on November 10, 2012 at 10:55 PM

What would happen if 50% of taxpayers started cheating by massive amounts on our taxes? Just brainstorming here.

The Count on November 10, 2012 at 10:55 PM

My last four comments were originally one comment but after six tries I broke them up.

davidk on November 10, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Boomer_Sooner, you fool, here’s the address you write to

tips@hotair.com

No one here agrees with that moron.

Schadenfreude on November 10, 2012 at 10:53 PM

They both should be shitcanned, for sure.

TXUS on November 10, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Maybe one day in the future, when poverty and “inequality” is no longer such a big an issue, we can go back to the principles of liberty and freedom from government.

tkyang99 on November 10, 2012 at 10:52 PM

“There’s An App For That”

sharrukin on November 10, 2012 at 10:56 PM

They both should be shitcanned, for sure.

TXUS on November 10, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Absolutely.

gophergirl on November 10, 2012 at 10:57 PM

herm2416 on November 10, 2012 at 10:52 PM

This is bad news for Chicago, wherever will they find someone with his ethics and morals as a replacement.

Bishop on November 10, 2012 at 10:57 PM

Romney was responsible for the gay marriage victory this year. Notice that it was just days after Romney secured the nomination that O did his gay marriage proclamation. O knew Romney would be mush about it, would do nothing, and thus Romney gave tacit assent to gay marriage. It killed us in the election. Nominating Romney was the worse thing that ever happened to conservatives.

We can still win on gay marriage. Abortion, no.

anotherJoe on November 10, 2012 at 10:57 PM

What would happen if 50% of taxpayers started cheating by massive amounts on our taxes? Just brainstorming here.

The Count on November 10, 2012 at 10:55 PM

I plan to put on my tax return when it asks me about my healthcare “None of your damn business”.

That should go over well.

gophergirl on November 10, 2012 at 10:57 PM

tkyang99 on November 10, 2012 at 10:52 PM

The theory is that ‘someone else’ needs to create some ‘money’, so I am not real sure how that works if the whole world is trying to spend someone elses money. Unless its just printed 24/7.

orbitalair on November 10, 2012 at 10:58 PM

Quote of the day? Here’s one: “Let it burn.”

No, really.

Let it burn.

The Resolute Desk on November 10, 2012 at 10:41 PM

Just gonna stand there and watch me burn
But that’s all right because I like the way it hurts
Just gonna stand there and hear me cry
But that’s all right because I love the way you lie
I love the way you lie
I love the way you lie

Fallon on November 10, 2012 at 10:58 PM

Boomer_Sooner on November 10, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Are you just going to keep re-posting that? Or actually report it?

wargamer6 on November 10, 2012 at 10:59 PM

Agreed. However, that would first require the resuscitation of the concept of Shame in America — which slowly declined and seems to have ultimately died somewhere along the line these past five decades …

ShainS on November 10, 2012 at 9:44 PM

No, shame is alive and well if you’re a white male, a practicing Christian, or someone who provides for your family and then some.

Shame is alive and well in America.

Punchenko on November 10, 2012 at 9:48 PM

You are correct. I should have rephrased or included a disclaimer …

[Apparently not so] Obviously I was lamentingly being hyperbolic, referring to in general, on the macro level, all those who support the and/or voted Left, didn’t vote, or committed voter fraud.

Similar to Neitzsche’s declaration that “God is dead” — obviously not true for many — it was my analogue that “Shame is dead.”

[Like you, I possess shame; in fact, one of my personality problems is that I possess both excessive shame and a sense of responsibility -- which at least is the best side upon which to err. ;-) ]

ShainS on November 10, 2012 at 10:59 PM

And remember. The Nile ain’t just a river in Egypt.

Or is it?

Lanceman on November 10, 2012 at 10:16 PM

Well, “The Nile” is……………

“De Nile”, not so much. :)

Solaratov on November 10, 2012 at 10:59 PM

With a, “meh”, attitude and get down on the person who doesn’t allow it to just disappear underneath the table of “polite conversation”.

Boomer_Sooner on November 10, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Meh. One poster at HA. Bill Ayers and his “How to you ‘eliminate’ 25 million” comment.

Take your phucking righteous indignation to D Koz, sister.

Lanceman on November 10, 2012 at 11:00 PM

I plan to put on my tax return when it asks me about my healthcare “None of your damn business”.

That should go over well.

gophergirl on November 10, 2012 at 10:57 PM

S’ok, they’ll have direct access to all your electronic bank accounts and electronic medical records, they won’t need your input.

orbitalair on November 10, 2012 at 11:01 PM

You did what? Arm an innocent child, with a rifle? And, ammo, too? Oh, don’t tell them that up in Maine, they’ll have you arrested for child abuse.

TXUS on November 10, 2012 at 10:47 PM

Yeah, I should probably keep that under my hat.

Nikkia2112 on November 10, 2012 at 11:01 PM

Riiiight, because I’m the one who’s acting in appropriately or not according to what you guys would prefer to hear. Best that we all just look past a post like THIS:

You whine more than a pack of puppies.

How many times do you need to read that not everyone hear reads every post. Some of us do this thing where we start at the end and read up, or we look for favorite commenters to see what they have to say.

Seriously, you made EVERYONE here aware of the comment when most of us wouldn’t have seen it at all. Send your complaint to the actual administrators, we can’t do anything about it.

Man, I have little girls who piss and moan less than you.

Bishop on November 10, 2012 at 11:02 PM

Why don’t you try sending them an email at the contact on the upper right of the page —
instead of re-posting the ‘offending’ post in it’s entirety and whining about it?
How many more times are you going to repost it?
It’s starting to look as though you want it to be seen more.
Solaratov on November 10, 2012 at 10:54 PM

It SHOULD be seen more. People who post things like this should NOT be able to just slip by, they should be seen by as many people who might have some capability to respond to it as is humanly possible. THIS:

Because, Ughh, they are DEMOCRATS, they lie, cheat, steal, and they NEVER ADMIT WRONG. It will be someone elses fault, it always is.

Hitler had it right, the only way to really be rid of them is to kill them. The conflict of the next decade will be the capstone of all the conflicts of the 20th century.

I like the quote above about Iran getting a nuke, they want US, the military conservative to either be afraid of that, or to save them from it. Its hard to tell which.

Muslims, Dems, Marxists and Environmentalists are the enemy. You know what needs to be done. Their names and addresses are out there.
orbitalair on November 10, 2012 at 9:23 PM

And the person who wrote it, is not something that should be allowed to be swept underneath the rug, deleted and forgotten about like its no big deal, ever. Sorry.

But of course, go on, and be upset with me solely because its not what you want highlighted about someone in the group.

Boomer_Sooner on November 10, 2012 at 11:03 PM

With a, “meh”, attitude and get down on the person who doesn’t allow it to just disappear underneath the table of “polite conversation”.

Boomer_Sooner on November 10, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Meh.

That’s exactly what I do, because, um, this the Internet, not some old ladies Bridge Club.

Frequency of imflammatory stuff on the Internet: High.
Available amount of time to care much about it: Low.

MichaelGabriel on November 10, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Boomer_Sooner on November 10, 2012 at 10:23 PM

You just love re-posting that, don’t you, lefty?

You do realize that you’re starting to look like a fool…and you’re becoming a bore.

Solaratov on November 10, 2012 at 11:05 PM

With a, “meh”, attitude and get down on the person who doesn’t allow it to just disappear underneath the table of “polite conversation”.

Boomer_Sooner on November 10, 2012 at 10:55 PM

We won’t miss you when Ed lays the hammer to your butt.

JPeterman on November 10, 2012 at 11:07 PM

Ok, serious question here, and keep in mind that I live far away from college football insanity and I don’t really get it.

We don’t like liberal educators and liberal institutions. So why support them? Liberal college football raises boatloads of money from alumni. Does going Galt include boycotting them? If not, why not?

My husband doesn’t give a penny to his law school alumni association anymore because it has become so leftist in the last 20 years.

Mitsouko on November 10, 2012 at 11:07 PM

Boomer_Sooner on November 10, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Martyr syndrome. Got it.

wargamer6 on November 10, 2012 at 11:07 PM

Boomer_Sooner on November 10, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Remember how, during the tea party era, there was always somebody there holding a racist sign. Remember how it always turned out to be a lib plant.

Just sayin’.

ElectricPhase on November 10, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Another thing on gay marriage. It remains a winnable issue for us. When Romney said about Chick Fil A that “that is not part of my campaign,” many of the white working class voters that had been supportive of Romney turned away. The missing white working class voters. Romney blew this election big time. He could have won the election with the help of making hey with gay marriage, but no.

anotherJoe on November 10, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Otay Peeps,I’m bailing,and I’ll leave you(s),a story that
hasn’t blown up,as of yet,

Nite Everyone———–:)
==========================

RE:

Two children murdered,and Nanny tried to commit Hari-Kari in
New York!
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CNBC Exec’s Children Murdered, 1 Day After CNBC Reports $43 Trillion Bankster Lawsuit
October 27, 2012
****************

This week financial news organization CNBC gave some mainstream attention to the largest money laundering and racketeering lawsuit in United States History, in which “Banksters” and their U.S. racketeering partners are being accused of laundering of 43 trillion dollars worth of ill gotten gains.

The lawsuit is said to involve officials located in the highest offices of government and the financial sector.

Since this information was surprisingly revealed by the mainstream news organization there has been a very suspicious and deadly fallout at the CNBC headquarters.

Within hours the original page for the article was taken down, and CNBC senior vice president Kevin Krim received news that his children were killed under very suspicious circumstances.

It seems that the murder happened first and then the page was removed later.

According to mainstream accounts the children’s nanny is responsible for the murders, allegedly stabbing both children.

However, those same mainstream news sources report the highly unlikely story that the nanny slit her own throat just after committing the homicides.

Police have released very little information and although a wider plot has not been officially implicated, it seems very possible that these murders are a show of force against the press organization for releasing such damning information about the most powerful people in the world.

Here is some more information about the lawsuit from the Wall Street Journal:

“In the District Court lawsuit, Spire Law Group, LLP — on behalf of home owner across the Country and New York taxpayers, as well as under other taxpayer recompense laws — has expanded its mass tort action into federal court in Brooklyn, New York, seeking to halt all foreclosures nationwide pending the return of the $43 trillion ($43,000,000,000,000.00) by the “Banksters” and their co-conspirators, seeking an audit of the Fed and audits of all the “bailout programs” by an independent receiver such as Neil Barofsky, former Inspector General of the TARP program who has stated that none of the TARP money and other “bailout money” advanced from the Treasury has ever been repaid despite protestations to the contrary by the Defendants as well as similar protestations by President Obama and the Obama Administration both publicly on national television and more privately to the United States Congress.

Because the Obama Administration has failed to pursue any of the “Banksters” criminally, and indeed is actively borrowing monies for Mr. Obama’s campaign from these same “Banksters” to finance its political aspirations, the national group of plaintiff home owners has been forced to now expand its lawsuit to include racketeering, money laundering and intentional violations of the Iranian Nations Sanctions and Embargo Act by the national banks included among the “Bankster” Defendants. “

Some of the alleged conspirators are Attorney General Holder, Assistant Attorney General Tony West, the brother in law of Defendant California Attorney General Kamala Harris, Jon Corzine (former New Jersey Governor), Robert Rubin (former Treasury Secretary and Bankster), Timothy Geitner, Treasury Secretary, Vikram Pandit (recently resigned and disgraced Chairman of the Board of Citigroup), Valerie Jarrett (a Senior White House Advisor), Anita Dunn (a former “communications director” for the Obama Administration), Robert Bauer (husband of Anita Dunn and Chief Legal Counsel for the Obama Re-election Campaign), as well as the “Banksters” themselves, and their affiliates and conduits.

It is expected that all news on this subject will be removed from CNBC, and that other news organizations will be discouraged from covering such information.

However, screen shots of the original CNBC article

http://theintelhub.com/2012/10/27/cnbc-execs-children-murdered-1-day-after-cnbc-reports-43-trillion-bankster-lawsuit/

were taken to verify the authenticity of this story.

Assassination and brute intimidation are common strategies for the ruling class to use on people who may threaten their agenda.

This is the second situation this week in which a high level executive was the victim of a suspicious attack that seemed very much like an assassination.

The Intel Hub just reported that Nicholas Mockford, a 60 year old British executive for the oil company ExxonMobil was shot dead in front of his wife in an assassination-style killing in Brussels.

We will be keeping a close eye on both of these stories and provide more details as they become available.

Note: You can read the lawsuit here.
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http://theintelhub.com/2012/10/27/cnbc-execs-children-murdered-1-day-after-cnbc-reports-43-trillion-bankster-lawsuit/

canopfor on November 10, 2012 at 11:10 PM

Few days ago Rush played “Feliz Navidad” as some sort of “outreach” program to Hispanics on his show.

This is why we lose elections. Not because people are rejecting our message, it’s because we have an image problem and people aren’t listening to us. Something has to change.

tkyang99 on November 10, 2012 at 10:31 PM

Rush obviously did that as a tongue-in-cheek take on everyone in the GOP – and alleged conservatives – who are starting to pander to Hispanics. But you see, after the Left crucified him for his truthful remark at Sandra Fluke, no one can take a freaking joke.

Now, Hannity de facto endorsed amnesty for illegals by embracing W’s original “pathway to citizenship” amnesty-lite plan. Talk about pandering. Talk about caving.

Myron Falwell on November 10, 2012 at 11:10 PM

Good work idiot, I’m sure Ed or AP will enjoy cleaning up not only the original, but the mess you also created.

JPeterman on November 10, 2012 at 10:34 PM

Leftists never worry about the messes they make or who has to clean them up.

Solaratov on November 10, 2012 at 11:12 PM

Just to detour for a sec, I emailed my congressman and called on him to not elect Boehner as speaker. I’m going to try and do that to as many R congressmen in Texas that I can. I don’t know if it will help, but I saw the suggestion on another site. What can it hurt? Roy Beck at NumbersUSA has always said that the calls and emails matter. That’s essentially how Bush’s amnesty was derailed in 2006 and 2007.

TxAnn56 on November 10, 2012 at 10:49 PM

Hate to pee on your cornflakes, Ann, but that’s not how it works in Speaker elections. First, once you are elected Speaker, you make sure that as few of your members/supporters as possible have no opponents in the primary. You do this by calling and visiting with important donors in those members’ districts who are on the cusp of being challenged in a primary. So, those votes are in your pocket.

Then, as Speaker, you go and campaign in every member’s district who has a close race there in the fall against the other party. So, the winners of those elections are in your pocket.

As to the others, who had safe seats from the beginning, you make sure that they know that they’ll have the committee assignments they want in the next congress or maybe even better ones. So, these, too are in your pocket.

As a result, it’s very difficult, almost impossible, to unseat a sitting Speaker. Or, for that matter and for the same reasons, a sitting Majority Leader in the Senate.

Sorry, but it is what it is.

TXUS on November 10, 2012 at 11:12 PM

Anyone who has ideas about figuring out what to do next, I’m all ears. I mean that in all sincerity. We all need to figure out ways to ride this out until we take it back. Then we must be vigilant.

PatriotGal2257 on November 10, 2012 at 10:17 PM

I as well as others still have some bitchin’ to do. But it’s almost time to quit.

I don’t think we can save the whole United States of America. But we can save our turf–the red turf: http://obamavoterfraud.blogspot.com/

That site talks about the fraud, but I cite it to show how much turf we have.

Read these and begin to ponder the possibilities.

http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2012/11/10/america-at-the-brink/comment-page-1/#comment-2184446

http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/ specifically: http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2012/11/07/no-more-waiting-nullify-now/

Re nullification: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nullification_%28U.S._Constitution%29

My Christian brothers and sisters, Oswald Chambers said “Prayer does not fit us for the greater work; prayer is the greater work.”

Then the LORD appeared to Solomon at night and said to him, “I have heard your prayer and have chosen this place for Myself as a house of sacrifice. If I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain, or if I command the locust to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among My people, and My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land. Now My eyes will be open and My ears attentive to the prayer offered in this place.”

davidk on November 10, 2012 at 11:12 PM

Another thing on gay marriage. It remains a winnable issue for us. When Romney said about Chick Fil A that “that is not part of my campaign,” many of the white working class voters that had been supportive of Romney turned away. The missing white working class voters. Romney blew this election big time. He could have won the election with the help of making hey with gay marriage, but no.

anotherJoe on November 10, 2012 at 11:09 PM

For me, that was more of a freedom of speech issue which would have been powerful and you wouldn’t have to bring in gay marriage. That comment really pissed me off because it made him look weak and that he wasn’t standing up for the first amendment.

TxAnn56 on November 10, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Folks, stop this end of the world desperation crap… Toughen up and stand up to fight another day… Do you think that Obama is worst than FDR or LBJ? During FDR time the taxes were up to 90% on the highest income… LBJ created the welfare state as we know it… Obamacare may die due to lack of support from the state who are refusing to implement it… Do you think that we have it worse now than during the Civil War? Civil War people!… The war that almost ended the Union… Our times compare nothing to that… If we survived FDR, LBJ, and the Civil War we can certainly survive Obama and his voters…

mnjg on November 10, 2012 at 11:14 PM

sharrukin on November 10, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Bite me, trucon.

You little keepers of the ‘conservative’ flame have gone so far right you have more in common with your democrats than you do with anyone.

Solaratov on November 10, 2012 at 11:17 PM

Another thing on gay marriage. It remains a winnable issue for us. When Romney said about Chick Fil A that “that is not part of my campaign,” many of the white working class voters that had been supportive of Romney turned away. The missing white working class voters. Romney blew this election big time. He could have won the election with the help of making hey with gay marriage, but no.

anotherJoe on November 10, 2012 at 11:09 PM

The last two months he ran a campaign that was aimed at
about 3-4% undecideds. Looking back I’m thinking this was a mistake.
Who cares about 4% undecided when you lose big chunks of your base?

TarheelBen on November 10, 2012 at 11:18 PM

Should read so far right that you’ve gone full circle …

Solaratov on November 10, 2012 at 11:18 PM

CNBC Exec’s Children Murdered, 1 Day After CNBC Reports $43 Trillion Bankster Lawsuit
October 27, 2012
****************

This week financial news organization CNBC gave some mainstream attention to the largest money laundering and racketeering lawsuit in United States History, in which “Banksters” and their U.S. racketeering partners are being accused of laundering of 43 trillion dollars worth of ill gotten gains.

The lawsuit is said to involve officials located in the highest offices of government and the financial sector.

Since this information was surprisingly revealed by the mainstream news organization there has been a very suspicious and deadly fallout at the CNBC headquarters.

Within hours the original page for the article was taken down, and CNBC senior vice president Kevin Krim received news that his children were killed under very suspicious circumstances.

It seems that the murder happened first and then the page was removed later.

According to mainstream accounts the children’s nanny is responsible for the murders, allegedly stabbing both children.

However, those same mainstream news sources report the highly unlikely story that the nanny slit her own throat just after committing the homicides.

This is the second situation this week in which a high level executive was the victim of a suspicious attack that seemed very much like an assassination.

The Intel Hub just reported that Nicholas Mockford, a 60 year old British executive for the oil company ExxonMobil was shot dead in front of his wife in an assassination-style killing in Brussels.

canopfor on November 10, 2012 at 11:10 PM

We may end up seeing a lot of these sorts of stories and there’s not much we can do about it. If it was a hit and the media sits on its hands there is nothing any of us can do about it and there is no way to prove, or disprove what took place.

sharrukin on November 10, 2012 at 11:19 PM

Folks, stop this end of the world desperation crap… Toughen up and stand up to fight another day… Do you think that Obama is worst than FDR or LBJ? During FDR time the taxes were up to 90% on the highest income… LBJ created the welfare state as we know it… Obamacare may die due to lack of support from the state who are refusing to implement it… Do you think that we have it worse now than during the Civil War? Civil War people!… The war that almost ended the Union… Our times compare nothing to that… If we survived FDR, LBJ, and the Civil War we can certainly survive Obama and his voters…

mnjg on November 10, 2012 at 11:14 PM

If only the massive entitlement programs enacted by Woodrow Wilson, FDR, LBJ, Nixon, Carter, W. and Obama could be scaled back or expunged. But, you see, they haven’t been. Nor will anyone want to. England has been in the exact same predicament for 60 years now with no end in sight.

The ONLY hope we have is to have the country fall apart into bankruptcy and give the 57,000,000 moochers a blast of cold water when their Obamaphones fail to work. And yet, the Dems will continue to blame Booooooooosh.

Myron Falwell on November 10, 2012 at 11:19 PM

Now, Hannity de facto endorsed amnesty for illegals by embracing W’s original “pathway to citizenship” amnesty-lite plan. Talk about pandering. Talk about caving.

Myron Falwell on November 10, 2012 at 11:10 PM

Huge mistake if we go all in for amnesty. History has shown that we won’t gain Hispanic votes, and we’ll actually lose our own voters.

TarheelBen on November 10, 2012 at 11:20 PM

Sorry, but it is what it is.

TXUS on November 10, 2012 at 11:12 PM

And unfortunately the people in his district keep re-electing him. I guess that’s the only way to dethrone him.

TxAnn56 on November 10, 2012 at 11:21 PM

I’m wondering,has America really changed,or is it the Democrat Party/MSM Proxies,that have stolen the Narration,in there NeverEnding Perception/Deception and OnGoing Operations,at making it looks as if America has shifted!! Jus say’n!
canopfor on November 10, 2012 at 8:53 PM

This.^^^

It is one of many difficult tasks before us and I often ponder how we would go about taking it on.

PatriotGal2257 on November 10, 2012 at 11:22 PM

mnjg on November 10, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Not very bright.

It’s not a matter of desperation. It’s survival.

Starve the looters and actively destroy them.

The moochers will feel the pain. It’s the only way they’ll learn.

Schadenfreude on November 10, 2012 at 11:22 PM

Bite me, trucon.

You little keepers of the ‘conservative’ flame have gone so far right you have more in common with your democrats than you do with anyone.

Solaratov on November 10, 2012 at 11:17 PM

Calm down, sparky. No one is going to deny you your ObamaPhone, your government band aid + aspirin healthcare coverage, or your right to have either Sandra Fluke or Andrew Sullivan as your “life partner”. All we want is to be left alone and not be forced to partake or pay for it. That’s all we’re asking.

Punchenko on November 10, 2012 at 11:25 PM

Boomer_Sooner on November 10, 2012 at 11:03 PM

The original is gone, and now so should you be gone, you incedible moron.

You spread the hate too, you azzhole.

Schadenfreude on November 10, 2012 at 11:27 PM

Thinking about the present day, if conservatives are right and what Walter Russell Mead has called the “blue state model” is indeed collapsing, then the GOP might not be that far away from another moment. At the least, the fact that it did not come in 2012 does not mean it is not coming.

The chances of another good moment for the GOP would increase quite a bit if they’d take Democrat voter fraud seriously.

Why has Boehner abandoned Allen West? He is in the midst of exposing the voter fraud that occurred in Florida and no one in the GOP seems to care.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/robbins-report/2012/nov/9/allen-west-asks-recount-amid-growing-vote-count-sc/#.UJ8IAsJls1I.facebook

We need House hearings on Democrat voter fraud! We cannot allow this to be swept under the rug. If the Democrats get away with this it’s over! I do not know whether the fraud committed actually won Obama his re-election.. but that is why we need hearings! To get to the truth!

JellyToast on November 10, 2012 at 11:29 PM

Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.

Ronald Reagan

I read these words Reagan, it gets me choked up.
Good night, folks.

TarheelBen on November 10, 2012 at 11:29 PM

And unfortunately the people in his district keep re-electing him. I guess that’s the only way to dethrone him.

TxAnn56 on November 10, 2012 at 11:21 PM

Yes, and that very thing, a really safe district, is the first prerequisite to running for Speaker. In all my years dealing in Washington, Austin, and a number of other states, I can’t recall one close election against a sitting Speaker, absent some personal scandal of some sort. Just doesn’t happen.

TXUS on November 10, 2012 at 11:30 PM

But of course, go on, and be upset with me solely because its not what you want highlighted about someone in the group.

Boomer_Sooner on November 10, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Jayzus! You sure are a whiney, sniveling little nancy-boy.

Why don’t you just copy it, run to dkos of dummyundrground and paste it and call it a night? Your work here is finished, you sniveling hypocrite.

And…you’re boring.

And a whiner.

And a sniveling nancy-boy.

Did I mention you’re boring? Well…you are.

Solaratov on November 10, 2012 at 11:30 PM

Anyone who has ideas about figuring out what to do next, I’m all ears. I mean that in all sincerity. We all need to figure out ways to ride this out until we take it back. Then we must be vigilant.

PatriotGal2257 on November 10, 2012 at 10:17 PM

If you’re like me and you want America to be more like the country you grew up learning about in school, the country that fought for freedom and liberty against tyranny, then vote for Ron Paul in 2016. Don’t follow the zombie Bush/Romney/Rove machine into statist oblivion, don’t double down on stupid, join the liberty movement instead.

The Tea Party was strong when it still stood for balancing the budget without raising taxes or inflation. The Tea Party was strong when it used to oppose crony bailouts of unions, corrupt banks and so forth. The Tea Party was strong when Ron Paul and his supporters were included and it stood for the Constitution and Bill of Rights. The Tea Party was strong before it abandoned all those principles and became a mouthpiece for the same old corrupt GOP establishment.

Ron Paul is the only tea party leader who remained steadfast behind the original tea party principles and has any credibility left.

Ron Paul 2016!

Let freedom and liberty reign again and get Americas financial house back in order.

FloatingRock on November 10, 2012 at 11:31 PM

Frequency of imflammatory stuff on the Internet: High.
Available amount of time to care much about it: Low.

MichaelGabriel on November 10, 2012 at 11:03 PM

^^^This^^^

Solaratov on November 10, 2012 at 11:32 PM

The GOPe will betray you..:)

Dire Straits on November 10, 2012 at 11:33 PM

Calm down, sparky. No one is going to deny you your ObamaPhone, your government band aid + aspirin healthcare coverage, or your right to have either Sandra Fluke or Andrew Sullivan as your “life partner”. All we want is to be left alone and not be forced to partake or pay for it. That’s all we’re asking.
Punchenko on November 10, 2012 at 11:25 PM

Don’t you just love how ANYONE from a HotAir poster, to Marco Rubio, all it takes is even a moments step out of line, or a single comment to suddenly turn them into subhuman scum who’s only goal in life is free stuff, gay sex, and Stalinism?

You’ll eat the reddest of the red AM advertising salesmen conservative red meat at all times, and you will like it, agree, nod your head, and chime in with the mob or else! You’ll be a Obamaphone wanting, government band-aid needing, homosexual lover of rino’s, Chinese, and stalin’s progeny!

It’s a wonder republicans don’t win EVERY election! Geez.

Boomer_Sooner on November 10, 2012 at 11:33 PM

Ron Paul 2016!

Let freedom and liberty reign again and get Americas financial house back in order.

FloatingRock on November 10, 2012 at 11:31 PM

He might be dead by then, really.

Schadenfreude on November 10, 2012 at 11:34 PM

Do you think that we have it worse now than during the Civil War? Civil War people!… The war that almost ended the Union… Our times compare nothing to that… If we survived FDR, LBJ, and the Civil War we can certainly survive Obama and his voters…

mnjg on November 10, 2012 at 11:14 PM

We weren’t around then. Ending the union isn’t sounding so bad – not the war part. I’m thinking more along the lines of no-fault divorce. Seriously, what do we have in common with blue staters anymore?

The Count on November 10, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Ron Paul is the only tea party leader who remained steadfast behind the original tea party principles and has any credibility left. is still an anti-semite.

Ron Paul 2016!

FloatingRock on November 10, 2012 at 11:31 PM

What is he, like 900 now?

Lanceman on November 10, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Boomer_Sooner on November 10, 2012 at 11:33 PM

You are subhuman scum for reposting a comment which has long since disappeared.

YOU s/b banned for this.

Schadenfreude on November 10, 2012 at 11:35 PM

My last four comments were originally one comment but after six tries I broke them up.

davidk on November 10, 2012 at 10:55 PM

The site code only allows 3 links per comments. 3+ and your comment won’t post.

Thanks also for you 10:54 PM comment.

INC on November 10, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Ron Paul 2016!

Let freedom and liberty reign again and get Americas financial house back in order.

FloatingRock on November 10, 2012 at 11:31 PM

He will be over 80 by 2016.

tom daschle concerned on November 10, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Evening all!! :-)

So we are now a ‘liberal’ nation? whodathunkit… NOT ME EVER!

Now let me go read some and catch up…

Hi Sparky… Hi Lanceman :-)

Scrumpy on November 10, 2012 at 11:36 PM

Evening all!! :-)

So we are now a ‘liberal’ nation? whodathunkit… NOT ME EVER!

Now let me go read some and catch up…

Hi Sparky… Hi Lanceman :-)

Scrumpy on November 10, 2012 at 11:36 PM

I think Muse has seen the Big Board™ It might be too late to protect our precious fluids.

tom daschle concerned on November 10, 2012 at 11:37 PM

Boomer_Sooner on November 10, 2012 at 11:33 PM

Heh!

That anything like your party majority loudly proclaiming it wanted God removed from the ‘rat platform 3 times only to have it shoved back in regardless of what they voted for?

Tell me what is ‘democratIC’ about the ‘rats again?

Lanceman on November 10, 2012 at 11:38 PM

Hello, Scrumpers.

Lanceman on November 10, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Tell me what is ‘democratIC’ about the ‘rats again?

Lanceman on November 10, 2012 at 11:38 PM

They all stink the same, like the latrines they dwell in.

Schadenfreude on November 10, 2012 at 11:39 PM

It also had a sticker that read something like, “My dog rides inside. Dogs against Mitt. com.” Get this though, it was a Prius (naturally) and there was a huge black lab squished in the tiny trunk area of the car. Oh the irony!

Nikkia2112 on November 10, 2012 at 10:54 PM

But didn’t Obama’s family kill and eat a dog?

TigerPaw on November 10, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Lanceman on November 10, 2012 at 11:38 PM

Nice post friend..:)

Dire Straits on November 10, 2012 at 11:40 PM

Democrat – (n) One who panders to the mindless whims of the masses.

Lanceman on November 10, 2012 at 11:40 PM

Anyone who has ideas about figuring out what to do next, I’m all ears. I mean that in all sincerity. We all need to figure out ways to ride this out until we take it back. Then we must be vigilant.
PatriotGal2257 on November 10, 2012 at 10:17 PM

Thank you. Constructive ideas and taking action now to improve things is good. The time for despairing is over.

FloatingRock on November 10, 2012 at 11:31 PM

Thank you. You take a lot of flak here for sticking to your guns and for loyally promoting your preferred candidate, but I think it is good that people like you continue to speak up. Many of Paul’s ideas deserve more attention, but I think many of his supporters would also do well to drop the unrealistic purity requirements and the silly, cult-like idea that “only Paul” is worth voting for.

bluegill on November 10, 2012 at 11:41 PM

Ron Paul 2016!

Let freedom and liberty reign again and get Americas financial house back in order.

FloatingRock on November 10, 2012 at 11:31 PM

He might be dead by then, really.

Schadenfreude on November 10, 2012 at 11:34 PM

He will be over 80 by 2016.

tom daschle concerned on November 10, 2012 at 11:35 PM

I was going to say the same thing, but Schad and tom daschle concerned beat me to it. And things have definitely cooled off on Rand as a result of his father’s run.

PatriotGal2257 on November 10, 2012 at 11:41 PM

Scrumpy on November 10, 2012 at 11:36 PM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on November 10, 2012 at 11:41 PM

Nice post friend..:)

Dire Straits on November 10, 2012 at 11:40 PM

The DNC will betray them.

Or will they?

Lanceman on November 10, 2012 at 11:41 PM

Tell me what is ‘democratIC’ about the ‘rats again?

Lanceman on November 10, 2012 at 11:38 PM

They all stink the same, like the latrines they dwell in.

Schadenfreude on November 10, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Latrines smell better. Just sayin’.

Myron Falwell on November 10, 2012 at 11:42 PM

Lanceman on November 10, 2012 at 11:41 PM

LoLz..Not as long as they are running Santa Claus!!..:)

Dire Straits on November 10, 2012 at 11:44 PM

Another thing on gay marriage. It remains a winnable issue for us. When Romney said about Chick Fil A that “that is not part of my campaign,” many of the white working class voters that had been supportive of Romney turned away. The missing white working class voters. Romney blew this election big time. He could have won the election with the help of making hey with gay marriage, but no.

anotherJoe on November 10, 2012 at 11:09 PM

I was quite disappointed when Mitt said that; rather than come out big-time in support of Freedom of Speech. He wouldn’t have had to say a word about teh gheys.
Not getting tough on that is what led to him getting slapped down when he issued the statement about the DoS statement on the “offensive video”.

Solaratov on November 10, 2012 at 11:45 PM

CNBC Exec’s Children Murdered, 1 Day After CNBC Reports $43 Trillion Bankster Lawsuit
October 27, 2012

$43 trillion ($43,000,000,000,000.00)

canopfor on November 10, 2012 at 11:10 PM

politics is irrelevant…

equanimous on November 10, 2012 at 11:46 PM

They all stink the same, like the latrines they dwell in.

Schadenfreude on November 10, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Weren’t you giving me civility lectures earlier today?

urban elitist on November 10, 2012 at 11:46 PM

But didn’t Obama’s family kill and eat a dog?

TigerPaw on November 10, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Why yes, yes they did. Lefties don’t want to hear such nonsense, though.

Nikkia2112 on November 10, 2012 at 11:46 PM

Weren’t you giving me civility lectures earlier today?

urban elitist on November 10, 2012 at 11:46 PM

Never. I gave you a modesty lecture, and you got it, nicely, and I wished you well, before and after.

You can’t ask for civility from us. You are way smarter than this.

Get well soon.

Schadenfreude on November 10, 2012 at 11:48 PM

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