Rice: GOP has to address changing demographics of US

posted at 12:11 pm on November 9, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice appeared on CBS’ This Morning to do what everyone else is doing — providing a post-mortem on what happened Tuesday, as well as a look forward into the GOP’s future. Rice also gave some insight into Syria, China, and spent quite a bit of time talking about what we need to find out about the terrorist attack on Benghazi:

National Journal picks up the thread of Rice’s arguments on demographics:

Rice said on CBS’s This Morning that many key GOP issues are broadly popular – fiscal responsibility and a strong national defense, for instance – but the Party is losing “important segments of the electorate” because it has not adjusted to changing demographics.

“The changing demographics in the country really necessitates an even bigger tent for the Republican Party,” Rice said. “What we have to do is appeal to those people not as identity groups, but understanding that if you can get the identity issue out of the way then you can appeal on the broader issues that all Americans share concerns for.”

Some have argued that this is a call for the GOP to pander on identity, but I agree with Ben Howe:

You cannot expect people to join your party without making an argument about how their policies and philosophy will make their lives better.  And that cannot be done from 30,000 feet, either.  We do very well explaining about how we are the party of liberty and individual empowerment, but what does that mean in the neighborhoods of urban areas with high unemployment and poor government services?  What policies specific policies have we offered on the ground that will positively impact the lives of those voters who went 70% or more to the Democrats?

That doesn’t mean adopting the Democratic platform.  It means putting conservative principles into concrete policy that acts locally as well as nationally.  We may have scoffed at the Main Street/Wall Street rhetoric of the Occupy Movement and Barack Obama, and we may oppose the “free stuff” policies that rhetoric services, but we can’t win these votes by simply decrying class warfare.  Tuesday proved that much.

Rice also talked about Benghazi, and had some interesting insight into what specifically we should probe.  She’s less concerned about the “shifting stories” the White House produced in the first two weeks, having been the customer of some shifting intel data herself during crises.  Rice says we need answers on why the Obama administration apparently ignored months of warnings about security in Benghazi, and especially why the White House didn’t respond during the attack itself.


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RedCrow on November 9, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Burke on November 9, 2012 at 1:55 PM

You both make good points..Although I lean toward Red Crow’s point..BUT as the saying goes..Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it..:)

Dire Straits on November 9, 2012 at 2:03 PM

As a Texan, I have Bush fatigue. I still predict Chris Christie will change parties.

mobydutch on November 9, 2012 at 2:07 PM

As a Texan, I have Bush fatigue. I still predict Chris Christie will change parties.

mobydutch on November 9, 2012 at 2:07 PM

absolutely, Chris Christie is the new Charlie Christ…even their names sound alike :)

jimver on November 9, 2012 at 2:10 PM

What is the best 3rd party right now? I’m ready.

BoxHead1 on November 9, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Jesus Christ would be torn to shreds by the media today as a “religious extremist”, “intolerant”, “limited government conservative”, etc.

PappyD61 on November 9, 2012 at 12:55 PM

http://www.catholicmemes.com/captions/herod-2012/

workingclass artist on November 9, 2012 at 2:21 PM

I don’t throw around a 3rd party threat without some thought, but if these national pundits continue to spew all of this togetherness and get along for the sake of unity, then, I intend to reevaluate my 40 years of voting as a Republican. I will not change my core beliefs and values for any party.

mobydutch on November 9, 2012 at 2:29 PM

Bush 47 up against Chelsea Clinton…… won’t that be a hoot.
 
FlaMurph on November 9, 2012 at 2:00 PM

 
And they thought a lot of voters stayed home for this year’s election.

rogerb on November 9, 2012 at 2:29 PM

Ugh. I’m so sick of this whole “demographics” meme. What this election came down to was who was willing to be SANTA CLAUS. What happened to Allen West? What happened to Mia Love?

It’s not about “demographics” for the sake of demographics. It’s about the candy store. Sheesh. If anybody should understand how HARD the left makes it for Republicans of color, it’s Condi Rice. What the hell? What these people are saying is that if Republicans would just act more like Democrats, pandering and bribing their way along in the game of Identity Politics, Republicans would win elections. Problem is.. we’d just be Democrats wearing a different jersey.

We did not lose this election in the voting booth. We lost it over the course of decades in the classroom. We lost it because we’ve tolerated ignorance in civics, and history, and economics. We lost it because we’ve allowed academia to poison the minds of our young, so they go off to their careers in partisan journalism without a clue about the founding philosophy of this nation and the freedom they throw away with both hands.

Murf76 on November 9, 2012 at 2:35 PM

Yep…Christie will switch parties

Christie congratulates Obama over the phone but sends an email to Romney

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83619.html#ixzz2BkwQz3we

workingclass artist on November 9, 2012 at 2:40 PM

You are right MURF76. The candy store is wide open, but remember what children are told–if you eat too much candy, you get rotten teeth. That is exactly what has happened to America. Too much candy will and has caused decay and rot!!!

mobydutch on November 9, 2012 at 2:42 PM

If we look at the very long view, though, we can be more hopeful. The collapse of Rome led to a thousand-year hell of plague, poverty, strife and slavery in the form of serfdom, but eventually the Renaissance emerged.

Burke on November 9, 2012 at 1:55 PM

LOL! Thanks for cheering me up!

RedCrow on November 9, 2012 at 2:44 PM

What this election came down to was who was willing to be SANTA CLAUS. What happened to Allen West? What happened to Mia Love?

Murf76 on November 9, 2012 at 2:35 PM

That pretty much hits on the head.

Like I said, the “Republicans have a _______ problem” is an attack line pointing out a result, not a suggestion to do something differently. A Republican who repeats the attack line like it’s some kind of wisdom is marking themselves as foolish.

The white vote is still almost 3 times bigger than the black and Latino vote combined. That means for every point you lose among whites, you need to swing the vote roughly 6% among either blacks or Latinos. That’s not going to happen through any policy, as Democrats will just up the ante, all the way up to citizenship, voting rights, to free houses and cars for minorities, slavery reparations, giving SoCal to Mexico. You can’t outflank a liberal on his left.

We’re coming off an election where white turnout was the largest deciding factor. Somehow, I don’t think that embracing handouts is going to improve that situation.

HitNRun on November 9, 2012 at 2:47 PM

It’s not about “demographics” for the sake of demographics. It’s about the candy store.

Murf76 on November 9, 2012 at 2:35 PM

Try talking to hispanics who believe in Aztlan, blacks who think whites are to be eternally punished for slavery and racism, and the white liberals who agree with them. Try reading the many articles in the press the last few days that are discussing “the final solution to the white question.”

It IS about anti-white racism as a political tool and whites in America smply refuse to face up to it. It is used as a political tool just as it has been around the world for CENTURIES to gain and keep power. White Americans won’t admit it because the implications are too frightening and would require a realignment of thinking that flies in the face of everything we’ve been told for the last 50 years.

Django on November 9, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Django on November 9, 2012 at 2:49 PM

The idea of “revenge” is much more powerful than the ideas of “equality under the law”, or “content of character”.

(Or: “Being a white male means always having to say you’re sorry.”)

RedCrow on November 9, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Rubio & Rice 2016 ticket? How’s that for identity politics? We can even keep the RR bumper stickers.

FreeManOtis on November 9, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Or the GOP can repeal the 1965 Kennedy immigration act and reinstate the one left by the Founders.

What a thought….

Bulletchaser on November 9, 2012 at 3:20 PM

It IS about anti-white racism as a political tool and whites in America smply refuse to face up to it. It is used as a political tool just as it has been around the world for CENTURIES to gain and keep power. White Americans won’t admit it because the implications are too frightening and would require a realignment of thinking that flies in the face of everything we’ve been told for the last 50 years.

Django on November 9, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Amen Bro! But what you will get here is calls for more GOP “OutReach”, otherwise know as self-liquidation.

They tried “Outreach” in Rhodesia and South Africa. Thousands dead and Whites on the run.

Bulletchaser on November 9, 2012 at 3:22 PM

RedCrow on November 9, 2012 at 2:57 PM

America has turned its back on the idea that race doesn’t matter. It is now the only thing that matters. Blacks cheering that the “White House has stayed black” and hispanics demanding that anyone of their ethnicity be given American citizenship on demand – that’s America. And the only question the Republican Party asks is “How do we make ourselves black and hispanic, too?”

The rule of law being fairly and indiscriminately applied to everyone is a dead concept. Deceased. American citizenship is now a total farce. It means nothing. Nothing beyond the “right” to be taxed into oblivion by peoples from other countries who hate you. The American experiment is dead.

Django on November 9, 2012 at 3:23 PM

It’s a combination of both demographics and the candy store being open. Ignore demographics at your own peril.

JFS61 on November 9, 2012 at 3:29 PM

It’s a combination of both demographics and the candy store being open. Ignore demographics at your own peril.

JFS61 on November 9, 2012 at 3:29 PM

Exactly. I’m not denying that the candy store effect isn’t a large part of this. It is. But it’s also a result of the frank, open anti-white racism by non-whites that many whites refuse to acknowledge is even there. And that anti-white movement is grown and cultivated by the news and entertainment media and the Democratic Party.

Django on November 9, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Amen Bro! But what you will get here is calls for more GOP “OutReach”, otherwise know as self-liquidation.

They tried “Outreach” in Rhodesia and South Africa. Thousands dead and Whites on the run.

Bulletchaser on November 9, 2012 at 3:22 PM

America imports tens of millions of non-whites from other countries and then tells them to hate white people. There has never been a more masochistic, suicidal population of approval-seeking idiots than the American white population. At least the Rhodesians and South Africans had their fate imposed from the outside. We did it to ourselves.

I’m not “anti” any other ethnicity or nationality but I can’t help but see the evil of the lie that says whites are uniquely and inherently bad and they must resign with shame to be ruled by the “pride” of every other race on earth.

Django on November 9, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Ed, you can’t have this type of conversation just yet. Most of your readers are still in shock and mad at minorities. As a black indivual I can say Condi Rice, and what many others have said is truth. But this issue will steadily be ignored and waved off because most of your readers have little respect for brown people or people of lower means. As shown repeatidly in the comments here.

So it is pointless to spend blog post and airtime on it.

Magnus on November 9, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Django, there is a home for you and those that feel like you at Stormfront.org. Srsly.

Magnus on November 9, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Ed is right. Outreach is like marketing. We all know how that works. We believe in capitalism and free markets…well Republicans need to do a better job of selling themselves to target groups. It also would not hurt to create some alternative media sources that might help break the near monopoly that liberals have in the main stream media.

Terrye on November 9, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Magnus on November 9, 2012 at 4:02 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=txn-GEr_d_Y

So, because I think it’s wrong to gloat in racial terms and propagandize against white people, I belong at Stormfront. Sounds like you think whites deserve to be “put in their place.” Are you a New Black Panther by any chance or just a run-of-the-mill black racist?

Django on November 9, 2012 at 4:10 PM

The democrats OWN certain demographics in the form of the message. After the democrats lost in 2004 they said they would reach out to value voters. In a short while it went nowhere because it was too against their hedonistic base. This is the kind of talk BOTH parties have after loses. If we would have won and WE COULD HAVE with some better luck in the events towards election day the DEmocrats would be looking at 2010 and 2012 and slitting their wrists. Instead we are doing it and if we would have won we would look at the last 2 election results and been confident in ourselves. I would stop the panic. In additin I think the Latino pressure from the left and the MSM is to set up a victory on immigration for the one who ditched Latinos in the frst term.

Conan on November 9, 2012 at 4:18 PM

I have no issue with white people. And I personally don’t respect for the NBPP, I think its a useless org made up of racist people. I do, however, have feelings about certain commentors on these threads that come from the context of their own words.

But individuals at Stormfront.org have been sounding the alarm expressing your sentiments above for years. Perhaps you will find like minds have solutions.

Magnus on November 9, 2012 at 4:19 PM

blah, blah, blah.

White people deserve to lose. They no longer have any pride of identity and, in fact, are ashamed of their identity and heritage. I never saw a culture willingly become slaves before.

iconoclast on November 9, 2012 at 4:24 PM

Magnus on November 9, 2012 at 4:00 PM

You are smug a$$ to just throw out that we hate non-whites. This isn’t HuffPO we know who we are and we don’t have ANY racist feelings. We have principles that we adhere to and the fact is a lot of non-whites don’t adhere to them. That is due to the democrat party saying they are for Whites only and won’t work for them. YOUR propaganda is not OUR reality. We may have lost the country but it isn’t because WE see race in EVERYTHING. We will see how the country feels in another 4 years of race being everything and good leadership and policy meaning NOTHING. don’t be sure who will be popular by even 2014 when all the OBama sh*t hits the fan.

Conan on November 9, 2012 at 4:24 PM

Magnus on November 9, 2012 at 4:19 PM

I see…you’re a run-of-the-mill black racist.

Django on November 9, 2012 at 4:26 PM

I have no issue with white black people. And I personally don’t respect for the NBPP KKK, I think its a useless org made up of racist people. I do, however, have feelings about certain commentors on theseleftist threads that come from the context of their own words.

But individuals at Stormfront.org Nation of Islam, NBB, Department of Justice, SPLC, NAACP, Congressional Black Caucus have been sounding the alarm expressing your sentiments above for years. Perhaps you will find like minds have solutions.

there, FIFY

iconoclast on November 9, 2012 at 4:30 PM

When the dog gives all of his fleas an equal vote, he will always be outvoted.

Laura in Maryland on November 9, 2012 at 4:32 PM

Conservatism is a philosophy, not a tribe. The people who truly only care about their “tribe” refuse to see that because they love their racist identity as non-white antagonists of white people. They get off on it. More than anything in the world, they love being “black” or “hispanic” or whatever and yet white people are the obstacle to unity.

“The White House is staying black! They still call it the White House but that’s a temporary condition.” Hmm, okay. And whites are the ones who are allegedly racist, race-obsessed and evil.

Django on November 9, 2012 at 4:32 PM

Conan,of course you don’t see race in everything, it has never been a determination of your right of existence or right of personal liberty. You can’t understand the powerful psychology of a black American president on the non-white.

Magnus on November 9, 2012 at 4:34 PM

While I accept the premise, I think it puts us in the role of Whittaker Chambers …. quitting the winning team to join the losing team (of course, he turned out to be wrong … or was he?).

Too many voters see Republicans as the “Party of the Bosses” (as opposed to the “Part of the Employees”), which makes it rough because there are always going to be more employees than bosses.

Democrats promise government will “take care of you” directly; we tell people that they’ll benefit from improving the economic climate.

But guess what – when that pay raise or those better benefits come, does anyone drop on their knees and say “Thank you Republicans for making the economic climate better so my employer does better and I do better?”

“You’re kidding, right?”

Yeah, I know – “The raise, etc. is because I earned it. Nothing you Republicans did had anything to do with it.”

IMO, taken as a whole, we don’t value freedom anymore. What we want is security – and don’t bother us with trifles like “we can’t afford it” … we’ve always come up with the cash in the past & if we’re going down, I want to get my share now, before it happens, so I’ll be better situated to deal with it.

The only way this changes is if everyone is forced to put skin in the game – which means it’s going to be forced upon us, it won’t happen by choice, because no politician is going to do anything which risks turning off a MAJORITY (let alone an overwhelming majority) of the people who vote.

We’re going to have our little economic train wreck. The only way this gets fixed is when we can no longer give everyone what they want.

BD57 on November 9, 2012 at 4:36 PM

We’re going to have our little economic train wreck. The only way this gets fixed is when we can no longer give everyone what they want.

BD57 on November 9, 2012 at 4:36 PM

The economic train wreck may well turn into a violent train wreck as racists blame white people for not making enough money to pay for the free ride.

A Democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of Government. It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largess out of public treasury. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that Democracy always collapses over a loose fiscal policy, always to be followed by a Dictatorship.

As our Republic has become more and more like a direct Democracy, the mob has realized it can vote itself all sorts of goodies at the expense of the people who make those products. The mob–Democrats–will not passively accept that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money and will enact harsher and harsher punishments for not making enough money for the mob.

iconoclast on November 9, 2012 at 4:47 PM

BD57 on November 9, 2012 at 4:36 PM

People need to feel pride in self reliance, not put down because they are not. Sounds like head patting but a little of that would go a long way for the Republican party. Me thinks.

Magnus on November 9, 2012 at 4:47 PM

GOP has to address changing demographics

Another Elizabeth Warren thread?

Ronnie on November 9, 2012 at 4:56 PM

Why does Rice believe that blacks and Hispanics lack interest in a message that only applies to all Americans, and isn’t formulated as a Shiny Object for My Narrow Racial Viewpoint?

Does Rice believe blacks and Hispanics are too stupid to understand non-racial public policy, or too corrupted by the decades-long Democrat demagoguery and their policy of Give Minorities Presents to Buy Votes (and hopefully they won’t notice the unemployment rate)?

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

Nope…sorry, dude. The color of your skin is the only thing Democrats want to judge. Color blind public policies are for white racist Republicans only.

“What we have to do is appeal to those people not as identity groups, but understanding that if you can get the identity issue out of the way then you can appeal on the broader issues that all Americans share concerns for.”

Anyone understand one word of that? The Democrat/media campaign of racist demagoguery has done the opposite of “get the identity issue out of the way”, and the result is 95% black slavery in the voting booth. Not sure WTF world she lives in, but in my world, race is the only thing that matters to racist blacks, and Hispanics and Asians are beginning to see the light.

Jaibones on November 9, 2012 at 5:02 PM

You can’t understand the powerful psychology of a black American president on the non-white.

Magnus on November 9, 2012 at 4:34 PM

And there you have it. How ’bout “You can’t understand the powerful psychology of a white American president on the white”? How’s that sound? Ew….Off to Stormfront.

The racial “unity” of the Democrats is a lie. Obama didn’t use the word “revenge” by accident.

Herman Cain was beloved by Republicans because he was a practical businessman who doesn’t believe in racial revenge and animus. But the left really didn’t like that stand, did they? And isn’t it interesting that they hated him so much for it?

The Chinese in Indonesia thought they were safe because “The Indonesians need us. We’re the business class that helps the country run.” The Jews in the Soviet Union thought they were in an equitable utopia until “The Doctors’ Plot.” And the Jews in Germany in 1930 thought they were fine because “Germany’s the most civilized nation in the world. This craziness will all blow over.”

Are whites in America going to end up like that? Unlikely, but if you look at black-on-white crime stats and the rhetoric of the media and the Democratic Party it’s apparent that a version of it is already well under way in the US.

Django on November 9, 2012 at 5:11 PM

When the bottom of our economy falls out, who will get the blame? (The white people, the black people, or whatever color people?) I say the guilty party will be the undisciplined and irresponsible people. That means debt is color blind. It is a disease that will take great sacrifice to cure. I have wants and needs, but I hope to goodness, that I never have to hold the American society responsible for ME. Now, if that is racist, I don’t know what to say or think.

mobydutch on November 9, 2012 at 5:17 PM

Ed, you can’t have this type of conversation just yet. Most of your readers are still in shock and mad at minorities. As a black indivual I can say Condi Rice, and what many others have said is truth. But this issue will steadily be ignored and waved off because most of your readers have little respect for brown people or people of lower means. As shown repeatidly in the comments here.

So it is pointless to spend blog post and airtime on it.

Magnus on November 9, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Beyond the grammatical illiteracy of your comment is a sort of philosophical illiteracy. But as the self-appointed spokesgirl of “brown people”, you should get a very large forum, here. Go for it. Explain why “most of” Ed’s readers have “little respect for brown people”.

Does it have anything to do with the whole 95% thing? Or is it more based in this?

Jaibones on November 9, 2012 at 5:23 PM

You can’t understand the powerful psychology of a black American president on the non-white.

Magnus on November 9, 2012 at 4:34 PM

No, of course not…we’re just stupid, racist white people. Hey, I see that Chicago’s black denizens are deeply and powerfully affected by the “psychology of a black American president on the non-white”.

Is that what you meant?

Jaibones on November 9, 2012 at 5:26 PM

We do very well explaining about how we are the party of liberty and individual empowerment, but what does that mean in the neighborhoods of urban areas with high unemployment and poor government services? What policies specific policies have we offered on the ground that will positively impact the lives of those voters who went 70% or more to the Democrats?

Ed

Translation:

- Blacks and Mexicans are too stupid to understand that a $1.5 Trillion annual budget deficit, and a $17 Trillion national debt is a bad thing.

- Blacks and Mexicans are too stupid to understand that an unemployment rate of 8.3% is a bad thing.

- Blacks and Mexicans are too stupid to understand that raising taxes on job-producers will not cause the unemployment rate to go down.

- Blacks and Mexicans are too stupid to understand that increasing government spending by a minimum of 8% per year threatens to bankrupt the American economy.

Sorry, Ed, but I disagree. Blacks and Mexicans are not genetically stupid and inherently corrupt. Our government and media keep them stupid and corrupt on purpose, to see their own corrupt purposes. And nothing proves it better than this most recent campaign.

Jaibones on November 9, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Jailbone, I have no clue as to your general level of intelligence or your financial status, and so far you have not presented any indication of either. My grammar isn’t impeccable so apparently that is an indication to you that I am of low intelligence. It has never been my strong point.

I apologize though I never meant to imply you were stupid, only that you can’t truly understand. However I do generally feel most people, in general, are fairly intelligent, including yourself. So I am assuming that you know well that you can make a safe assumption that I have lived in the skin and amongst the group that is the topic of our discussion longer and more indepth than you have.

No, I am not the talking representative for this certain group, but I may have a tad bit more understanding than you.

Let us leave it at that. There will be no meeting of the minds here. So this conversation and topic is now time wasting.

Magnus on November 9, 2012 at 6:26 PM

Guees who the worst-educated states voted for?

ANSWER:
http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2012/10/15/americas-best-and-worst-educated-states/

Pragmatic on November 9, 2012 at 6:34 PM

Just a reminder, the government cannot give anything to anyone that they have not first taken away from someone else.

mobydutch on November 9, 2012 at 6:46 PM

Sorry, Ed, but I disagree. Blacks and Mexicans are not genetically stupid and inherently corrupt. Our government and media keep them stupid and corrupt on purpose, to see their own corrupt purposes. And nothing proves it better than this most recent campaign.

Jaibones on November 9, 2012 at 5:40 PM

All true, but also we have to consider that the system of illegal immigration from Mexico delivers us the poorest and the least educated that Mexico has to offer, those most likely to favor socialism.

slickwillie2001 on November 9, 2012 at 8:52 PM

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