“Let’s examine the claim, then. Of the counties Obama won:

relatively same turnout: Allegheny, Delaware, Lackawanna
1 point lower: Erie
2 points lower: Dauphin, Luzerne, Monroe
3 points lower: Montgomery, Northampton
4 points lower: Bucks, Lehigh
Moreover, Obama LOST Chester County if the current result holds.

The only place Obama got a higher percentage over 2008 was in Philadelphia County, where you may recall that GOP poll inspectors were illegally removed from several locations, which then had an odd surge in turnout (over 90% in a city that averaged a 60% turnout) and went as high as 99.5% for Obama.”
The Schaef on November 9, 2012 at 10:52 PM

I thought I’d do a little experiment, so I found the report of all the wards in Philadelphia which threw out all the GOP election inspectors and went to the Philadelphia Co. election results site to see if they had the data for each ward and their vote totals. Our county does this, as I was easily able to see my own ward and precinct vote totals in the hours after the polls closed. I was going to put together a spreadsheet for my own edification from the data.

Well, lo and behold, the problem is that there is no listing for the 2012 General Election in the pull-down menu. They have the raw data, but the most recent is for the 2012 Primary. Gee, so maybe I’d have to petition the court to see them, because obviously, someone’s holding out posting any of the totals for the county. If they’re not hiding something, then I bet it would all be there for everyone to see.

KMav on November 10, 2012 at 2:34 PM

What Mitt needed was for more whites to show up. They were out there and they told pollsters he was their man. I’m not talking about the base, who were motivated enough to vote. I’m talking about the ignorant slugs who couldn’t be bothered to who up at the polls.

Had Romney done just a little bit better — perhaps as well as 45% of the Latino vote

The Bringer on November 10, 2012 at 9:54 AM

You are incorrect. If Romney had beaten Obama by 60-40 with the Hispanic vote he would have still lost. Do not believe the Charles K’s of the world. They are lying to you.

Get the white vote up! That’s our hope. Not amnesty that would dramatically the number of Dem voting Hispanics. Again, we could have gotten the white vote up this time if we had stressed the immigration threat.

Flora Duh on November 10, 2012 at 8:45 AM

Agreed, I just took a close look at Broward counties demographics, and there’s just no way we took 99% there, it’s simply a statistical impossibility. The county contains large numbers of demographics that Romney carried nationally. It’s quite possibly that these demographics would vote considerably more liberally in a blue county, but they wouldn’t vote 99% regardless of where they lived.

Not sure about the election as a whole, but I’m convinced that Florida at least was stolen. As close as it was, it wouldn’t have been very difficult.

WolvenOne on November 10, 2012 at 12:06 PM

NO QUESTION ELECTION STOLEN BUT ELECTORAL COLLEGE WON’T BE CERTIFIED UNTIL DEC. 20. IF ANY SENATOR CHALLENGES RESULTS THERE HAS TOBE A HEARING. START BURNING UP THE PHONELINES, FAX MACHINES, EMAILS & IN PERSON MEETINGS/PROTESTS. NOT TOLATE TO HAVE THE SOURCE CODES EXAMINED FOR TAMPERING. OR SIT BACK & LET IT CONTINUE WHILE COMPLAINING ONLINE TO… OTHER UNHAPPY PEOPLE WITH NO MORE POWERTHAN ANY ONE OF US. COLLECTIVE POWER WORKS. CONVERGE ON YOUR U.S. LEGISLATORS.
In SWORN TESTIMONY before the U.S. House Judiciary Committee, computer programmer, Clint Curtiss testifies as tohow & by whom he was asked to write code that could change vote toals in an instant. At the 4:15 mark he shows how simple the “flip” Is. Just 3 clicks & vote totals switch between opposing candidates.

Flora Duh on November 10, 2012 at 8:45 AM

Agreed, I just took a close look at Broward counties demographics, and there’s just no way we took 99% there, it’s simply a statistical impossibility. The county contains large numbers of demographics that Romney carried nationally. It’s quite possibly that these demographics would vote considerably more liberally in a blue county, but they wouldn’t vote 99% regardless of where they lived.

Not sure about the election as a whole, but I’m convinced that Florida at least was stolen. As close as it was, it wouldn’t have been very difficult.

Maybe you’re right.
I just think those folks are too far gone.
I can’t tell you how frustrating it’s been to me, conversing with acquaintences before the election. Their dumb smiles, as I tried to explain what was happening…

People are really asking for it.

RedCrow on November 10, 2012 at 2:40 AM

And I’m going to laugh very sardonically at my liberal co-workers, some of them very smug, when our employer (privately owned, non-union) dumps our health coverage and/or cuts us full-timers back to 30-hour weeks. That last item was what my boss was worried about as the election returns were coming in. I took the time to explain a little bit about the taxes that will be coming and the fact that we will have to indicate on our tax returns whether or not we have health insurance and he looked questioningly at me. He’d not heard of it. I thought about emailing him some articles about it, but he’s the type that likes info in very small doses, so I’m going to have to think about how to present it to him.

Then again, I may just let him find out on his own. He doesn’t follow politics much and he’s one of many who still thinks that what the media says is the “official” version. There’s no discernment, no questioning, no realization that maybe, just maybe, the media has a vested interest in not telling the truth, which we all know, but people like him don’t.

And California is the wave of the future. A March 2011 poll by Moore Information found that Republican economic policies were a stronger turn-off for Hispanic voters in California than Republican positions on illegal immigration. Twenty-nine percent of Hispanic voters were suspicious of the Republican party on class-warfare grounds — “it favors only the rich”; “Republicans are selfish and out for themselves”; “Republicans don’t represent the average person”– compared with 7 percent who objected to Republican immigration stances.

It’s all about free benefits….. Free stuff!
Free $$$.
Free education.
Free healthcare.
Low-cost housing.
Social security. (Though, w/out the taxes paid into SS by the only rapidly growing population (Hispanics/Latinos) in the US, SS might not survive at all – damn 60s baby boomers.)

I guess when the Hezbollah & Al Qaida cells here in the US become legal US citizens… and we see another terrorist attack on US soil, I suppose the Southern Poverty Law Center will still bitch about “home-grown”- terrorists as the biggest terrorist threat.

I do agree that amnesty will happen (not my choice), but also believe it should happen with a price including no voting rights for a probationary period of time, as well as payment of additional taxes for a probationary period of time, and must exclude those who broke any other laws besides crossing the border (this group still gets deported)… Otherwise, we might as well simply reinstate voting rights for felons…
Oh wait, I forgot – the liberals are already working on the felon voting angle…

One thought that occurred to me is that maybe, it went on too long.

Almost 2 years of non-stop primary and election talk 24/7 may have burned non-political junkies out so much they just started tuning it out.

Doesn’t excuse their not showing up at the polls, but it might be something to consider.

I was concerned for Romney’s sake in the primaries when he ran too far to the right on immigration. The few votes it cost him were enough to flip the election and electoral college to Obama. Romney already had the etch-a-sketch label. He should have been prepared to take one more hit on this early in the spring or summer by amending his stance on immigration and campaigning hard for Latino and Asian votes.

The stunning thing is Romney carrying 60% of the white vote, the largest share since Bush in 1988. Obama got the lowest share since Clinton in 1992 in a three-way race. The Romney campaign misread the electorate. The same voting percentages up through about 2000 would have produced a Romney victory.

Ultimately, Obama was (also) LUCKY. Hurricane Sandy and . . . Several of the swing states had better economic indicators than the nation-at-large due to having Republicans in charge, which gave Romney a hard time campaigning on his economic message in those states.

“Let’s examine the claim, then. Of the counties Obama won:

relatively same turnout: Allegheny, Delaware, Lackawanna
1 point lower: Erie
2 points lower: Dauphin, Luzerne, Monroe
3 points lower: Montgomery, Northampton
4 points lower: Bucks, Lehigh
Moreover, Obama LOST Chester County if the current result holds.

The only place Obama got a higher percentage over 2008 was in Philadelphia County, where you may recall that GOP poll inspectors were illegally removed from several locations, which then had an odd surge in turnout (over 90% in a city that averaged a 60% turnout) and went as high as 99.5% for Obama.”
The Schaef on November 9, 2012 at 10:52 PM

The GOP needs to begin confronting the voter fraud that is rampant within the Democrat party or it soon won’t matter who we run they will lose.
The Democrats have no problem with accusing the Republicans of voter fraud. If the lies work so well how much more powerful is the truth? Republicans just sit there on their hands while the Democrat party accuses them of everything from racism to murder. I have no understanding of this.. but it has got to stop!

For crying out loud.. the Republican party was birthed as the anti-slavery party but the Democrats have so successfully manipulated the past that they have turned history upside down! Even Lincoln.. the first Republican President is being co-opted by the Democrats that I honestly believe some people in the GOP would be embarrassed to state that Lincoln was not a Democrat!

Why is this really happening? Because good men do nothing! It is as simple as that! Good men sit there and do nothing. Just like our glorious Speaker of the House! Surrender. Sit and warm the chair. Don’t take any risks because what’s the point and all the while our Republic slips away from us.

Good men who do nothing are as guilty as the evil men who steal, lie and cheat.

What I think we need to do is adopt a three-prong approach to Hispanics:

1) Offer immigration reform that makes us appear compassionate to Hispanics’ legitimate beefs about our legal immigration system while simultaneously limiting future immigration.

2) Push increased trade with Mexico and other Latin American countries, which benefits everyone’s economy and thereby reduces Hispanics’ desire to move to the US. (Most Hispanic immigration is driven by the need for work, not a yearning for freedom like what drove European immigration).

3) Try to find some way to stop the Democrats from eliminating Hispancs’ work ethic and making them into a group of people addicted to welfare. Our long term survival depends on Hispanics rising to the middle class.

Dante: Rush’s idea is brilliant the way most of his ideas are. SO to spare you the “taxation w/o representation” angst — they don’t have to pay taxes for 25 years either. How’s that?

IdrilofGondolin on November 10, 2012 at 8:58 AM

I think Rush’s idea is foolish. Democrats and the news media would demagogue it and make it look like Republicans don’t believe some “citizens” should have the right to vote. It would cast the Republicans as being too tricky by half, and also as being demeaning to the disenfranchised poor. Then it would be outed as Rush’s idea and as a result would even be more widely hated.

It’s possible to imagine something worse, though, and that would be that Republicans and Democrats would agree on the plan and implement it. If that happened, 20 million new people would immediately demand benefits along with the right to bring relatives into the country. At the same time, these 20 million would insist on the right to full citizenship, and not one in five Americans at that point would deny it to them.

They didn’t do immigration reform because the votes weren’t there. That’s why Harry Reid never introduced the crap-and-betrayed bill that passed the House and never went near card check. Too many vulnerable Dems refused to vote on those issues. And it was a smart move.

I’m frankly stunned how many Democrat Senators managed to survive their Obamacare and Porkulus votes with relative ease(although opponents like Achin’ certainly helped). But even Todd Achin’ would’ve knocked off McCasket had she cast yea votes on crap-and-betrayed and card check.

Doughboy on November 10, 2012 at 8:51 AM

You are correct on cap-and-trade but the Republicans filibustered the Dream Act twice and vowed to do the same for any comprehensive reform.

The reason we didn’t do immigration reform during the brief five months (including August recess) when we had 60 Senators is because it was — for better or for worse — all health care, all the time that summer.

urban elitist on November 10, 2012 at 8:25 AM

They didn’t do immigration reform because the votes weren’t there. That’s why Harry Reid never introduced the crap-and-betrayed bill that passed the House and never went near card check. Too many vulnerable Dems refused to vote on those issues. And it was a smart move.

I’m frankly stunned how many Democrat Senators managed to survive their Obamacare and Porkulus votes with relative ease(although opponents like Achin’ certainly helped). But even Todd Achin’ would’ve knocked off McCasket had she cast yea votes on crap-and-betrayed and card check.

He’s not advocating anything. He’s making a ridiculous offer to make a point – that these people are being used as a permanent voting bloc and without the vote they offer they’ll be quickly abandoned.

kim roy on November 9, 2012 at 11:05 PM

He is advocating it. He said he was serious. How many times does he say he lives in literalville? So I can’t take him literally? Do you support his idea? If so, why are you in favor of taxation without representation?

CycloneCDB on November 10, 2012 at 3:31 AM

Kennedy. She worked on MTV back in the day and apparently not works for Stossel. She’s good, I’ll leave the hot part to the gentleman.

The problem was that most voters were convinced that Bush, not Obama, was to blame for the bad economy. National exit polls showed this. This was the killer that should have been dealt with more effectively.

bluegill on November 9, 2012 at 10:27 PM

Two points:

First, Bush was to blame, at least in great part, for the bad economy. The sad fact is that at heart he was a big-spending fiscal liberal who paved the way for Obama and gave him cover.

Furthermore, the disaster of our country happened, or at least started, on his watch. So he should rightly be blamed for that. While he was busy handing out goodies and expanding government every which way he could so that he could gather support for his oversea wars, the country broke. It’s important to remember that Bush was not a conservative; he despised them along with the Tea Party. At the very least, that was an error on his part, and he should rightly be blamed for it.

Second, blaming Bush is perfectly predictable and that blame won’t likely change over the coming years. Remember, 80 years after the ’29 stock market crash, Hoover was still being blamed for the Great Depression of the ’30s. You have to go to the Cato Institute to find a different view, that FDR contributed to the problem. It’s easy to see that a half century from now or even a full century from now, Bush will still be blamed for the The Great Great Depression which is bound to come within the next decade. Obama will no doubt be considered a hero by liberals who will still be writing all the textbooks used in colleges.

My own view is that there is no easy fix to our country’s problems–at least no such fix such as finding a new election strategy (as you suggest, Bluegill). We as conservatives need to realize the truth of what Rush said the other day: “They outnumber us now.” Once we digest that truth, we can begin to move on.

And then the boy king gets 99% of the votes in Broward County.

Bullsh*t! Broward is blue, but it is not that damn blue.

Obama didn’t win Florida – he stole it!

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/A7NFNZjCcAA9wiv1.jpg

Why is it considered acceptable to demean white people in this way?