Quotes of the day

posted at 10:17 pm on November 9, 2012 by Allahpundit

That Hispanics are the fastest-growing segment of the electorate and a key swing vote in several toss-up states was well-known within the Romney campaign. That Republican opposition to immigration reform helped Democrats increase their appeal in the Hispanic community and take back the House in 2006 was also well established. Yet Romney’s team cultivated an unswerving belief that the torpid economy would sink Obama under its own weight and depress Latino support, even after the administration ordered temporary visas for Dream Act students.

Demographics—and Obama’s superior political machine—won the day. Republicans who have been sounding the alarm for years are wondering if Tuesday’s election will finally resonate as a clarion call.

“If we as Republicans had moved just a few percentage points of the Hispanic vote in states like Florida, Ohio, Colorado, and Virginia, it could have thrown the election to Romney,” said former Sen. Mel Martinez of Florida, a Cuban-American and past chairman of the Republican National Committee who fought for sweeping immigration reform. “This is not a choice. It’s either extinction or survival.”

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The president captured 48% of the Cuban-American vote in Florida—a record high for a Democrat, according to an exit poll by Bendixen & Amandi International, Mr. Obama’s Hispanic polling firm. Republican Mitt Romney received 52%…

Given his overwhelming support among Florida’s non-Cuban Hispanic voters, who make up a growing share of the electorate, Mr. Obama carried the state’s Latino vote overall by 61% to 39%, exceeding his margin in 2008 by seven percentage points. Together, both trends are accelerating a realignment of the state’s Latino vote, from once solidly Republican to now reliably Democratic, analysts say.

“The president has successfully picked the lock in Florida,” said Fernand Amandi, managing partner at the polling firm.

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The conservative base is smaller than it has been in three decades, with its share falling to 35% while liberals edged up to 24%, a narrowing advantage further diminished by the fact that about a fifth of that conservative base consists of blacks and Latinos who still overwhelmingly voted for Obama. The Republican conservative base seems perilously close to shrinking to white southern evangelicals, senior white males, and upper income Protestants

To be sure, a better crafted campaign would have filled in Romney’s policy goals more convincingly than the ritualistic invocation of five point plans and generic references to cutting regulation and producing more domestic energy. But that failure is not just a marketing flaw on the part of Romney’s ad men: it is a symptom of a modern conservatism that seems spent and resistant to innovation on some days, purely oppositional and reactive on other days. And the weightiest part of the recent conservative agenda, Paul Ryan’s budget plan, was barely mentioned and its details only intermittently defended. (The details of Ryan’s budget had their share of political pitfalls, but the scant attention to it by the Romney campaign surely contributed to the impression that the Republican wish list was being kept deliberately shadowy.)

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Each of the key groups in Obama’s coalition of the ascendant is growing in society—which means that they will provide an even greater advantage to Democrats over time unless Republicans start winning more of them. “When you have a younger generation with a different set of ideas, and a changing demographic in the country, there’s going to be a tipping point; and during that tipping point, the two sides are roughly at parity,” says Morley Winograd, a senior fellow at the Democratic advocacy group NDN and coauthor with Michael Hais of two books on the millennial generation. “But at some point, that parity goes away and the direction becomes very clear.… We think this coalition is not only ascendant but will be dominant.”…

After these results, the big question facing the GOP is whether it can improve its performance among minorities, especially Hispanics, without returning to George W. Bush’s support for immigration reform that provides a pathway to citizenship for those living here illegally. That policy shift would face impassioned resistance from conservatives. “Looks like a brawl coming soon,” says longtime GOP strategist Mike Murphy. “The question is: Will the party base accept these facts, since they chose to ignore similar facts after Obama’s election four years ago?”…

“That 28 percent [minority-vote share of the electorate] will be 31 percent probably in 2016, and then it will be 34,” notes Matt Barreto, a founder of Latino Decisions, a polling firm that specializes in Hispanic voters. To win future elections, Republicans will need to either improve their minority performance or win even higher percentages of whites. “So it’s either going to get scarier in terms of those huge racial divides,” he says, “or the Republicans are going to have to sit up and say, ‘How can we cut into the Latino, African-American, and the Asian-American vote?’”

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Maybe these people are convinced the larger GOP project can be saved simply by caving on just this one issue. That seems cracked. The bulk of the Hispanic electorate appears to instinctively vote Democratic, and not just because of immigration. (“[T]his is just a fairly liberal voting block.”) Maybe they can be wooed over to the Republican side over the course of decades. But by then there will be another wave of new, instinctively Democratic illegal immigrants (lured by the Boehner Amnesty) for Dems to appeal to. And the idea that the GOPs don’t have to change any of their other ideas if only they appease this one ethnic group (making up 10% of the electorate) is highly questionable, as David Frum has argued. … There were plenty of other reasons why Romney lost. (If he’d gotten McCain’s share of the Latino vote … he still would have lost.)…

A much better strategy would be to enact the enforcement measures (including a border fence and a system of employment checks), then wait a few years and see if they survive. If they do, sure, come up with some kind of amnesty. You could calmly pitch that plan to Latinos–it ends in the same place (amnesty). But that’s not the sort of sensible approach you will insist on if you are part of a stampede of panicked pols and consultants whose only goal is to pander to what they think Latinos want to make up for their shortcomings in other areas.

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If Republicans want to change their stance on immigration, they should do so on the merits, not out of a belief that only immigration policy stands between them and a Republican Hispanic majority. It is not immigration policy that creates the strong bond between Hispanics and the Democratic party, but the core Democratic principles of a more generous safety net, strong government intervention in the economy, and progressive taxation. Hispanics will prove to be even more decisive in the victory of Governor Jerry Brown’s Proposition 30, which raised upper-income taxes and the sales tax, than in the Obama election.

And California is the wave of the future. A March 2011 poll by Moore Information found that Republican economic policies were a stronger turn-off for Hispanic voters in California than Republican positions on illegal immigration. Twenty-nine percent of Hispanic voters were suspicious of the Republican party on class-warfare grounds — “it favors only the rich”; “Republicans are selfish and out for themselves”; “Republicans don’t represent the average person”– compared with 7 percent who objected to Republican immigration stances.

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To follow up on the question of whether Hispanics are held back from their natural Republican affinities by immigration-reform obstructionism, let’s not forget Obamacare. A Fox News Latino poll in September 2012 found that 62 percent of likely Latino voters backed President Obama’s handling of health care, including the Affordable Care Act. Only 25 percent of those voters wanted the act repealed. The Catholic Church’s strong opposition to the bill’s contraception mandate did not tip the Latino scales against it, dealing another blow to the myth of the “social values” Hispanic conservative. A Romney Spanish-language ad trumpeting Romney’s opposition to the Affordable Care Act showed that his strategists “don’t know what they are doing,” Latino pollster Matt Barreto told USA Today in August…

Out of sheer fatigue, I would almost be willing to support an E-Verify-preceded amnesty (starting with a DREAM Act that, unlike every extant version, disqualifies applicants with criminal records and requires serious educational attainment) in exchange for the elimination of chain migration and its replacement by a skills-based selection process. Congressional Democrats’ recent torpedoing of green cards for foreign Ph.D. science graduates, however, simply to preserve the “diversity” visa lottery shows how deep Democratic commitment to low-skilled immigration is. It would be risky to assume that they don’t know what they’re doing.

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It is prudent and sensible to favor amnesty for the remaining non-violent, long-term illegal aliens after a fully articulated enforcement system is in place and functioning and proven. But that will require some time, not just to staff up and put the physical and IT infrastructure in place but also to overcome the years-long scorched-earth litigation campaign the ACLU and its comrades will launch to stop all enforcement initiatives. (Or do you think they’ll feel bound by whatever illusory deal their congressional allies are compelled to settle for?)…

The Left understands much better the point of mass immigration. See, for instance, the comments of Eliseo Medina, vice president of the SEIU and an honorary chairman of the Democratic Socialists of America: “[Immigrants] will solidify and expand the progressive coalition for the future. . . . We will create a governing coalition for the long term not just for an election cycle.”

Conservatives shouldn’t be helping them do this.

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“This is a very, very dangerous area for Rubio if he has national aspirations,” said Roy Beck, head of the anti-immigration group Numbers USA. “You’ve had Republicans trying to do this in the past that really lost their status in the party once they did it.”…

In the aftermath of Tuesday’s elections, many Republicans believe they need to recalibrate and listen to Rubio. But while Rubio may be able to sway his Senate colleagues, his influence among House members is less certain.

“My gut is there are not too many Republicans who have been against comprehensive reform who will change positions,” said longtime pro-immigration activist Rick Swartz, who founded the National Immigration Forum. Reform “is easy to talk about but harder to get it done.”

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Former presidential candidate Rick Santorum charged Thursday that President Barack Obama and the Democratic Party held off on immigration reform so they could capitalize politically during the election.

“It did not get done, in my opinion, by this president because he wanted this as an issue,” Santorum said on Fox News’s “On the Record with Greta Van Susteren.” “I don’t believe the Democrats are at all sincere about doing anything and compromising with Republicans on immigration.”…

“They would rather have the issue and continue to drive…this wedge between races and creeds and classes or whatever else they want to divide America,” Santorum said of the Democratic approach to the immigration issue. “That’s unfortunate. Let’s see if Barack Obama, in a second term, is serious about solving problems or wants to perpetuate politics.”

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On Feb. 11, 2011, the person who should have been the Republican nominee laconically warned conservatives about a prerequisite for persuading people to make painful adjustments to a rickety entitlement state. Said Indiana’s Gov. Mitch Daniels: “A more affirmative, ‘better angels’ approach to voters is really less an aesthetic than a practical one. With apologies for the banality, I submit that, as we ask Americans to join us on such a boldly different course, it would help if they liked us, just a bit.” Romney was a diligent warrior. Next time, Republicans need a more likable one.

And one who tilts toward the libertarian side of the Republican Party’s fusion of social and laissez-faire conservatism. Most voters already favor less punitive immigration policies than the ones angrily advocated by clenched-fist Republicans unwilling to acknowledge that immigrating — risking uncertainty for personal and family betterment — is an entrepreneurial act. The speed with which civil unions and same-sex marriage have become debatable topics and even mainstream policies is astonishing. As is conservatives’ failure to recognize this: They need not endorse such policies, but neither need they despise those, such as young people, who favor them.

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Via WaPo:

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Amnesty for whoever is here. And it’s gonna be blanket, and it’s gonna be pretty quick. That’s where we’re headed. So I want to get in the game. I want to propose EIB amnesty. And I’ll agree to it. Amnesty for every illegal citizen who is here. There’s just one caveat. In exchange for having all of the laws that have been violated forgiven…

In exchange for blanket automatic citizenship without having to take the test, without having to learn the documents… (You’re here. You’ve been here a number of years so you’re a citizen. That’s where we’re headed.) One caveat: You can’t vote for 25 years. And let’s see how much support that idea gets. Let’s see if amnesty is what really is desired. Let’s see if it’s citizenship that all of these compassionate Democrats really have in mind.

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A comment timestamped before the post even goes up. Now that’s a Bishop!

happytobehere on May 17, 2013 at 11:57 AM

The rats are leaving the ship…

d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 11:58 AM

“I’m a Dem and stupid! But please still vote for me”!.

Only in the Democratic Party.

Oil Can on May 17, 2013 at 11:59 AM

A few more whistleblowers in the same vein we saw last week and we might finally get around to the truth, which is that the question isn’t a choice between idiots and liars, but whether we have both.

I think we all know the answer to that.

VegasRick on May 17, 2013 at 12:00 PM

Well, at least this one is closer to the truth.

WryTrvllr on May 17, 2013 at 12:01 PM

I simultaneously applaud and fear for Ms. Attkisson.

BobMbx on May 17, 2013 at 12:05 PM

How did you do that?

VegasRick on May 17, 2013 at 12:02 PM

Bob Woodward was right. This story is far from over. A few more whistleblowers in the same vein we saw last week and we might finally get around to the truth, which is that the question isn’t a choice between idiots and liars, but whether we have both.

This is a question?

Cylor on May 17, 2013 at 12:03 PM

“We’re portrayed by Republicans as either being lying or idiots,” said one Obama administration official who was part of the Benghazi response. “It’s actually closer to us being idiots.”

The Vulcan in me can’t resist.

The logic is irrefutable. WH officials admit to being being idiots and liars…but mostly idiots.

BobMbx on May 17, 2013 at 12:04 PM

They do not all agree on the list of mistakes and it’s important to note that they universally claim that any errors or missteps did not cost lives and reflect “incompetence rather than malice or cover up.”

Umm, four dead in Benghazi would beg to differ with that.

AZfederalist on May 17, 2013 at 12:05 PM

An idiot is someone who is incapable of thinking. Leftists merely choose not to think.

Fenris on May 17, 2013 at 12:05 PM

I simultaneously applaud and fear for Ms. Attkisson.

BobMbx on May 17, 2013 at 12:05 PM

“We’re portrayed by Republicans as either being lying or idiots,” said one Obama administration official who was part of the Benghazi response. “It’s actually closer to us being idiots.”

70/30

Electrongod on May 17, 2013 at 12:06 PM

State never convened the Counterterrorism Security Group (CSG) — even though the Benghazi situation is exactly why CSG exists.

This is one of those myriad government groups created with really snappy names by a congresscritter who needed some bona fides with a one group or another for an upcoming election.

I call them foundation plants. Those are the ones the builder sticks all around your house to make it look pretty on the day you buy it, don’t ever do anything except grow, and then when you consider taking them out you remember what your neighbors house looked like and decide to just keep the status quo.

Overtime, you simply forget about them.

BobMbx on May 17, 2013 at 12:06 PM

No Sharyl, we, the American voters that RE-elected this Marxist cabal to a second term, are the idiots.

Meople on May 17, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Alright..

Who stole the deLorean and screwed up the time-line here at HA?

Electrongod on May 17, 2013 at 12:08 PM

btw, ed, that awful sound you hear is your fingers scraping the bottom of the barrel.

sesquipedalian on May 17, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Care to amend?

Bishop on May 17, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Their idiocy caught up to them and they lied about it. Same tactic Clenis took. Democrats lie because they can. Their constituents are okay with it.

DanMan on May 17, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Apparently, I’m 5 minutes ahead of you all.

Losers.

BobMbx on May 17, 2013 at 12:15 PM

If you’re not first you’re last!

Meople on May 17, 2013 at 12:09 PM

Sharyl needs to watch her backside…

d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 12:09 PM

And that excuses this how?

Yeah…it doesn’t.

ProfShadow on May 17, 2013 at 12:10 PM

“It’s actually closer to us being idiots”

Well, we knew that. The question is how much they lied about being idiots.

inviolet on May 17, 2013 at 12:10 PM

A few more whistleblowers in the same vein we saw last week and we might finally get around to the truth, which is that the question isn’t a choice between idiots and liars, but whether we have both.

CoffeeLover on May 17, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Obama, the IRS and the Führerprinzip

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 12:06 PM

you go

inviolet on May 17, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Sharyl is freaking awesome. Doesn’t give a crap about who’s on what side of the story. Just reporting the facts. In a sane world she’d be the next Woodward and Bernstein.

jdpaz on May 17, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Can we go with malicious idiots?

mwbri on May 17, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Who broke HotAir..?

d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Who broke HotAir..?

d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 12:12 PM

It’s the IRS tracking software.

So ixnay on alkingtay about your irearmsfay.

Bishop on May 17, 2013 at 12:15 PM

LMAO…

d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 12:12 PM

(Said it elsewhere, but I’ll repeat)

This won’t wash with regards to 8 months of obstruction of justice inquiries and cover-up’s.

Nice try but no cigar.

Sir Napsalot on May 17, 2013 at 12:12 PM

btw, ed, that awful sound you hear is your fingers scraping the bottom of the barrel.

sesquipedalian on May 17, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Care to amend?

Bishop on May 17, 2013 at 12:08 PM

btw, ed, that awful sound you hear is my fingers scraping the bottom of my obama pickle barrel.

sesquipedalian on May 17, 2013 at 12:14 AM

VegasRick on May 17, 2013 at 12:12 PM

At least this pathetic excuse is plausible, I’ll give them that.

NoDonkey on May 17, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Report: IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election

NBC’s Lisa Myers reported this morning that the IRS deliberately chose not to reveal that it had wrongly targeted conservative groups until after the 2012 presidential election:

“[I]f this fact came out in September 2012, in the middle of a presidential election? The terrain would have looked very different.”

But, it’s NOT political!!! They pinky swear.

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 12:14 PM

TRUTH SQUAD

Shouting “FIRE!” when there is none is lying or providing incorrect information at a vital time.

Ok, First Amendment fans, if it is illegal to shout “FIRE!” in a crowded theater, can we pass another tiny law?

After the next attack, and there will be another attack, anyone who wrongly starts BS about “Columbine” or “self radicalization” “workplace violence” or “angry, frustrated film reviewers” or the other nonsense is committing a felony. It should be specifically identified as a “high crime and misdemeanor” for the purpose of punishing news outlets or even elected officials. Not that I am thinking of one elected official in particular.

Since we are getting killed and don’t have a phalanx of Secret Service, personal guards or even the right to carry and protect ourselves, can’t we at least handle the tragedy with some er, TRUTH?

I know this is a radical idea and tough for you PC bovine Americans to do but even stupid herd animals communicate alarm among themselves. They don’t pretend that a young one of their own has grown fangs and is eviscerating a relative or that ongoing predatory actions by hungry wolves can be ignored and the wolves will sooner or later turn vegan on their own.

It is an insult to the fallen or falling to lie and very unnatural. History has shown that nations do very well by hitting back when attacked as awful as their actions may seem sickening to the squeamish.

Sometimes it is a wise investment in the education of the other side.

So send notes to your elected officials and hope that they will take the plunge. The experience of telling the truth may feel so good that they might even do it more than once.

IlikedAUH2O on May 17, 2013 at 12:14 PM

This shows increasing desperation.

No one wants to be seen as an incompetent fool, but if the choice is fool or knave, the administration’s choice seems understandable.

And this is understandable – Barky’s decisions here

1) To run guns to Islamists in Libya, and then try and recover some of them to ship to Syria
2) To arrest a scapegoat video producer

are going to piss off anyone who is paying attention…

18-1 on May 17, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Apparently, I’m 5 minutes ahead of you all.

Losers.

BobMbx on May 17, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Who broke HotAir..?

d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 12:12 PM

It’s the IRS tracking software.

So ixnay on alkingtay about your irearmsfay.

Bishop on May 17, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Oh…you silly people. Don’t you know:

What Fox did was take the word of one person without apparently doing even basic fact-finding.

And of course, Erika/HotAir ran with it as material suitable for the daily Obama-hater wankfest.

chumpThreads on April 30, 2013 at 9:11 AM

And the story is a Fox News “update” based on the unsupported assertion of one, right-wing partisan who has a vested interest in muddying the waters on behalf of her client.

“All the subtly of a flying mallet.”

chumpThreads on April 30, 2013 at 8:02 AM

bigmacdaddy on May 17, 2013 at 12:16 PM

It’s the IRS tracking software.

So ixnay on alkingtay about your irearmsfay.

Bishop on May 17, 2013 at 12:15 PM

I lost all of mine in a tragic boating accident.

VegasRick on May 17, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Government is trying to blunt Sharyl’s reporting by leaking to her better spun info…

d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 12:17 PM

OK, so the WH admits they covered up the fact it was terrorist attack by claiming their idiots…whatever. We’ll game that out later. What I want to know is whether or not all of our Baghdad Bob trolls around here are finally going to acknowledge the obvious cover up since the administration just admitted to it.

NotCoach on May 17, 2013 at 12:18 PM

I’m thinking they are idiots who lie!

AND why are they establishing the Obama administration’s analysis and response?

gonnjos on May 17, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Apparently, I’m 5 minutes ahead of you all.

Losers.

BobMbx on May 17, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Does Guam finally tip over?

VegasRick on May 17, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Obama administration sources explain Benghazi: “It’s actually closer to us being idiots”

phuckmeordie…spermsequestrian…noforeskin…and DBare will now give us their expert analysis!…(as soon as their anal passages clear!)

KOOLAID2 on May 17, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Jeez, man up a bit. If the administration screwed up, say so. Admit it. Come clean. Keep on stonewalling, and this scandal will get bigger and bigger. More whistleblowers, more traction in the media etc. The 6th year curse is real alright.

tommy71 on May 17, 2013 at 12:22 PM

I’m thinking they are idiots who lie!

AND why are they establishing the Obama administration’s analysis and response?

gonnjos on May 17, 2013 at 12:20 PM

The obvious tactic here is to explain the cover-up without actually explaining it because the only other option is malice. And malice is more likely to require an explanation of motive.

NotCoach on May 17, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Apparently, I’m 5 minutes ahead of you all.

Losers.

BobMbx on May 17, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Does Guam finally tip over?

VegasRick on May 17, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Can’t wait until Hot Air time-warps back to 1969 so that we can see that Neil Armstrong actually planted the flag on Mars, not the Moon.

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 12:23 PM

“…and it’s important to note that they universally claim that any errors or missteps did not cost lives…”

They were very finely tuned mistakes, the kind that didn’t cost any lives in a fiasco that nevertheless cost four Americans their lives. But the mistakes were all realted to aspects of the fiasco that had nothing to do with their deaths.

Akzed on May 17, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Fish in barrel.

They were idiots and then they lied about being idiots.

PackerBronco on May 17, 2013 at 12:23 PM

This administration calling themselves idiots is akin to a blind man saying he can’t see.

DDay on May 17, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Any scoop on Major Garret’s piece on the GOP distorted email edits?

DDay on May 17, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Sharyl needs to watch her backside…

d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 12:09 PM

I’d be glad to watch it for her. ;-)

TXUS on May 17, 2013 at 12:26 PM

What I want to know is whether or not all of our Baghdad Bob trolls around here are finally going to acknowledge the obvious cover up since the administration just admitted to it.

NotCoach on May 17, 2013 at 12:18 PM

At this point, what difference does it make!

Saltysam on May 17, 2013 at 12:26 PM

And if they’d said all this back in September, they would now have one less scandal to deal with.

Chris of Rights on May 17, 2013 at 12:27 PM

But he can stand up, right? – Joe Biden

18-1 on May 17, 2013 at 12:30 PM

Yep, and apparently good with shotguns too.

DDay on May 17, 2013 at 12:28 PM

“We’re all idiots on a no-brainer situation where we should have provided Marines to protect a consulate, and when we should have tried to rescue American citizens under attack.

But don’t worry, we’re totally ready to implement an uber-complicated BarkyCare system with the help of the IRS.”

Bishop on May 17, 2013 at 12:29 PM

we’re more comfortable with Obama wielding this sort of power because he seems a hell of a lot more effective and responsible with it.

urban elitist on February 8, 2012

Me too! This is awesome!

Hey HotGas, can you fix the Atari Server already because I have an old Pong Machine that would do a better job.

Bishop on May 17, 2013 at 12:29 PM

This administration calling themselves idiots is akin to a blind man saying he can’t see.

But he can stand up, right? – Joe Biden

18-1 on May 17, 2013 at 12:30 PM

Tommy Vietor, who was in the e-mail chain on the talking points, told CBS in October that “I don’t know what [FEST] is… it sounds antiquated.”

*facepalm*

Honestly, when you have folks like Victoria Nuland and Tommy Vietor providing input on talking points – it’s clear that they’re not interested in providing the truth – they’re interested in establishing the “spin”.

Hill60 on May 17, 2013 at 12:30 PM

A few more whistleblowers in the same vein we saw last week and we might finally get around to the truth, which is that the question isn’t a choice between idiots and liars, but whether we have both.

There’s one other choice: criminals.

TXUS on May 17, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Can’t wait until Hot Air time-warps back to 1969 so that we can see that Neil Armstrong actually planted the flag on Mars, not the Moon.

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Just got back…..and for the record….I’m the guy holding the camera when the lunar lander blasts off back to the command module.

Solves that mystery.

BobMbx on May 17, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Can’t wait until Hot Air time-warps back to 1969 so that we can see that Neil Armstrong actually planted the flag on Mars, not the Moon.

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Well we are not going back without helium balloons!

VegasRick on May 17, 2013 at 12:35 PM

BobMbx on May 17, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Well we are not going back without helium balloons!

VegasRick on May 17, 2013 at 12:35 PM


Greetings from Guam!

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 12:37 PM

So it was a coverup with no malice…LOL. Yeah, that’s the ticket.

d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 12:38 PM

So, it’s somewhere in between lying and idiocy, but closer to idiocy.

Okaaaaaay.

Got ya, chief! *wink*

*walks away shaking head*

Saltysam on May 17, 2013 at 12:41 PM

So it was a coverup with no malice…LOL. Yeah, that’s the ticket.

d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Time traveler.

TXUS on May 17, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Ok, First Amendment fans, if it is illegal to shout “FIRE!” in a crowded theater, can we pass another tiny law? IlikedAUH2O on May 17, 2013 at 12:14 PM

It’s not illegal if there’s a fire. Jus sayin.

Akzed on May 17, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Claiming to be idiots, they must think we are idiots.

If decisions were made out of stupidity or ignorance, the mistakes should be close to 50/50 in favor or against the Administration. Instead we have 100% of the idiotic acts in favor of Obama.

This administration’s goal was to get Obama reelected and was willing to do whatever it took to make that happen. This administration is the most coldly calculating since Clinton left office. That’s where Obama learned that delay, delay, delay and then “that’s old news, move on”.

WestTexasBirdDog on May 17, 2013 at 12:41 PM

But, it’s NOT political!!! They pinky swear.

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 12:14 PM

You mention NBC’s reporting on the IRS scandal.

It’s interesting that both CBS (Atkisson) and ABC (Karl) have contributed to some degree on Benghazi, while NBC has not gone near it with a ten-foot pole.

In the case of the IRS scandal, NBC apparently feels comfortable enough to report on something that will make Obama squirm because it’s an easy item to report on.

BuckeyeSam on May 17, 2013 at 12:42 PM

They are lying, malicious, idiots but they are also cunning and hateful.

jukin3 on May 17, 2013 at 12:46 PM

God bless Sharyl Attkisson. She’s doing a great job, doing what reporters are supposed to do, speaking truth to power. How she ever lasted so long at See-BS is a mystery, but she’d better have good bodyguards!

“With U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens reported missing shortly after the Benghazi attacks began, Washington officials were operating under a possible hostage scenario at the outset,” Attkisson’s report reads. “Yet deployment of the counterterrorism experts on the FEST was ruled out from the start.”

Having diplomats held hostage in Iran in 1979-80, and a botched rescue attempt, probably led to President Carter’s defeat in 1980. To avoid that in 2012, somebody decided that the easier solution was to let the hostage be (Ambassador Stevens) be killed, and cover it with some BS story about an anti-Muslim video on You Tube.

Reagan: We don’t negotiate with hostage-takers. We kill them.

Obama: We don’t negotiate with hostage takers either. We let them kill the hostages.

Steve Z on May 17, 2013 at 12:46 PM

They must really be scared if they’re universally offering themselves up as simply ‘idiots’. Sounds like a “we’ve tried saying everything else, this is all we have left that’s ‘better’ (less worse) than the truth.”

Midas on May 17, 2013 at 12:52 PM

“With U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens reported missing shortly after the Benghazi attacks began, Washington officials were operating under a possible hostage scenario at the outset,” Attkisson’s report reads. “Yet deployment of the counterterrorism experts on the FEST was ruled out from the start.”

One theory has it that the whole thing was a charade to set up a prisoner exchange – Stevens for the Blind Sheik. It would explain:

1. Why there was reduced security.

2. Why the platoon on the way within Libya was told to stand down.

3. Why it was called a hostage situation.

The men who fought back apparently weren’t in on the plan. This enraged the attackers, who thought they’d been lured into a trap or betrayed. So they went and got more friends and made a second attack.

Akzed on May 17, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Let’s just ponder that a moment. We took our quick-response team offline on the anniversary of 9/11? Who made that call?

Not incompetence. Deliberate. If they are claiming to be idiots then they aren’t idiots, they are lying.

rbj on May 17, 2013 at 12:59 PM

any errors or missteps did not cost lives and reflect “incompetence rather than malice or cover up.”

Incompetence is a hallmark of this administration. And since they are incompetent, how do they know their decisions – or lack thereof – did not, in fact COST LIVES?

GarandFan on May 17, 2013 at 1:01 PM

When will we hear from the 32 people who got out alive?

When they’re stories are no longer being covered up?

Akzed on May 17, 2013 at 1:02 PM

OK let’s see

An idiot would say here, “I was an idiot”

A liar would say here … “I was an idiot”

In other words, these remarks are devoid of any information content

rightmind on May 17, 2013 at 1:11 PM

So they are too stupid to tell the truth?

I’ll buy that.

But what they actually meant was they thought that WE were so stupid we wouldn’t know that THEY weren’t telling the truth.

Lily on May 17, 2013 at 1:11 PM

Obama should be forced to leave office right now and let Romney take over. Clearly it would have been a landslide if the press did it’s job last fall. Between the IRS and Benghazi scandals, a bag of rocks could’ve beat Obumbler. What a goddamn disgrace. Our enemies have to be laughing their asses off and licking their chops. God help this world. The press and administration sure did a great job effing my children’s world up.

ratherbskiing on May 17, 2013 at 1:14 PM

“We’re portrayed by Republicans as either being lying or idiots,” said one Obama administration official who was part of the Benghazi response. “It’s actually closer to us being idiots.”

Definitely not seeing those as mutually exclsuive……..

GWB on May 17, 2013 at 1:15 PM

SORRY BARRY……I, GHOULAID, AM A GODDAMN IDIOT. I AM NOT HOWEVER…..UNAMERICAN.

GhoulAid on May 17, 2013 at 1:16 PM

I said from the beginning that this was a “major screwup” followed by a gaggle of overpaid idiots.

J_Crater on May 17, 2013 at 1:23 PM

How embarrassing can this be to the “smartest man in the room” administration ? An administration filled with slackers, hanger-ons, and just plain idiots .. and that at the EOP.

J_Crater on May 17, 2013 at 1:26 PM

Tommy Vietor, who was in the e-mail chain on the talking points, told CBS in October that “I don’t know what [FEST] is… it sounds antiquated.”

Vietor was not simply “in the e-mail chain on talking points.”

Vietor was the MF-ing National Security Council spokesman!!!!!!!!!

Dude didn’t know FEST was?! Wasn’t it his job to know?

Is the White House staffed with Romper Room rejects?

Robert_Paulson on May 17, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Idiots like Obama, Holder and Hillary should not lead the US then.

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Well, darn it! Where are the trolls? I want to hear what they have to say about this.

C’mon, libbabies! Your me-so-smart leadership folks said it’s OK that you’re all stupid, so jump on in! My breath is bated, waiting for your brilliant idiocy to shine forth!

creekspecter on May 17, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Watch this, especially now.

“…creating more sheep”.

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 1:51 PM

airfield at Sigonella, Italy, an hour’s flight from Benghazi

Are there no other aircraft at Sigonella? Could any of them have provided help in any way shape or form?

Why did we not use every asset available? Please stop trying to sell the “stupid” meme. Not buying it.

dogsoldier on May 17, 2013 at 1:51 PM

“It’s actually closer to us being idiots”

No ,you guys are actual hitmen for jihadies.

burrata on May 17, 2013 at 1:53 PM

For many of us, being an idiot does not excuse or recuse us from being responsible. If a patrolman pulls you over for speeding, the idiot excuse does not fly.

You can say, like Holder, “We’ll, I didn’t know.” As so many people who work under the DOJ who have passed down sentences to lawbreakers have said over time aplenty, “Ignorance of the law is no excuse.”

Lastly, to say that with all the fires going on in the D.C. neighborhood in regards to the IRS, AP wiretapping, EPA, Bengazi, etc. is something akin to living in your house and seeing the whole neighborhood on fire, and not bothering to call the fire department.

Now, what excuse would you like to use again, Mr. President?

Turtle317 on May 17, 2013 at 1:58 PM

It was my opinion before the 2010 elections that they could be the most important in our lifetime. Now I think they may have been one of the most important elections in the history of our Republic.

House leadership may frustrate and disgust us, but Pelosi isn’t running things. Without Republicans in charge of committees to speak out, so many things would never have come to light or have been addressed.

The 2010 elections were brought to you by the Tea Party. That’s you and me and all the American citizens who attended them, who wrote and phoned and worked. No wonder the Obama administration hates and fears us. They hate and fear the American people who love our country and who support the Constitution.

We the People.

INC on May 17, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Action matters

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 2:00 PM

So, the country is being run by something close to idiots.

And, to the extent they’re not idiots, they’re liars.

Socratease on May 17, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Is the White House staffed with Romper Room rejects?

Robert_Paulson on May 17, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Yes.

GWB on May 17, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Time for an Independent Special Prosecutor(s) on the competence of administration and any abuse(s) of power in agencies in the Executive Branch.

State

DOJ

IRS

NHS

Agriculture

All of them.

workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 2:20 PM

We’re portrayed by Republicans as either being lying or idiots,” said one Obama administration official who was part of the Benghazi response. “It’s actually closer to us being idiots.”

Notice who is making the criticism a partisan one? The portrayal is coming from people who are not brain dead or easily fooled, chump. Let’s not buy into the “narrative” created by this Obama administration official.

onlineanalyst on May 17, 2013 at 2:23 PM

If you participated in the Excuse Draft, Mistakes Were Made paying off huge dues right here.

Ah, classic Clinton: “Mistakes were made.”

Axeman on May 17, 2013 at 2:24 PM

Well, darn it! Where are the trolls? I want to hear what they have to say about this.

C’mon, libbabies! Your me-so-smart leadership folks said it’s OK that you’re all stupid, so jump on in! My breath is bated, waiting for your brilliant idiocy to shine forth!

creekspecter on May 17, 2013 at 1:44 PM

The Rat-Eared Ba$tard took an especially large dump this morning, so they are taking a bit longer to drink it up.

slickwillie2001 on May 17, 2013 at 2:28 PM

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