You’re the rightwing equivalent of the Obamabots who think Barry is the Second Coming. Ten percent on each extreme of the political spectrum who are dropdead ideologues.

As for Ron Paul, he’s as laughable as Palin. Neither will ever, ever, EVER win a national election.

Obama was an incumbent POTUS promising freebies and determined to use–as he always has–character assassination to defeat his opponent. And he’s black. He was always going to be near-impossible to defeat.

Romney did as well as anyone could under the circumstances. A TrueCon not only would not have won this time, but considering how the country has changed, has no chance of winning in the future.

Meredith on November 9, 2012 at 7:51 PM

Before I start, I’ll make it clear I voted for Romney despite my mistrust and misgivings about the man.

But you were warned – repeatedly – what would happen if you folks pushed forward with Romney’s nomination during the primaries. It’s becoming increasingly clear that a small but significant chunk of the Republican base simply sat this one out. Romney was never really ahead of Obama, except for brief blips in October, and the signs of trouble were simply ignored. Your plan to replace the Republican base with independents obviously failed, given that Romney managed to win them and still lost the election.

It’s unfortunate that the base chose to stay at home, but there you have it. Politics is about the art of the possible, and it’s not possible to win without the base. Throwing temper tantrums after the fact shows you still just don’t get it. You can learn to get along with the Republican base and accept that you’ll have to compromise with them, or you can enjoy being politically irrelevant for the next two or three decades.

Doomberg on November 9, 2012 at 8:23 PM

Warned about what? Don’t nominate the best candidate or the self-styled base will stay home? The base supports the nominee. You are not the base. You are cultists who stayed home. You are about to find that the party will now move to the left. The 2016 nominee will not be as conservative or as capable as Romney.

The party is not going to nominate anyone who is so daft that she thinks you can have a brokered convention, followed by a 2 month campaign, and still win.

This business about “sending a message” to the so-called party elites by not voting for their “hand-picked” RINO candidate is so ridiculous it’s pathological. Do you really think you’re THAT important?
Meredith on November 9, 2012 at 7:51 PM

If we weren’t important you wouldn’t be *****ing about us, now would you?

No teeth, no law, especially we the powers that be don’t desire its enforcement.

Doomberg on November 9, 2012 at 10:19 PM

I hear you!!..:)

What happened?

The Dems fixed the election. What did you think?

Seriously, though, the margin of error on a small (1-2%) subgroup of an exit poll has to be enormous.

PS..Did you vote??..:)

Dire Straits on November 9, 2012 at 9:25 PM

Yep, voted for Romney. I wasn’t an abstainer. I feared Obama far more than Romney.

That said, I’ve also made my feelings clear on why he lost, though I’ll admit I was as deluded as most everyone else by from the optimism coming from the Romney campaign in the prior month.

Doomberg on November 9, 2012 at 8:23 PM

Be careful..All the votes have not been counted..You maybe right..But you could be wrong..:)

PS..Did you vote??..:)

Meredith on November 9, 2012 at 7:51 PM

So if Palin is laughable then why did she draw double and triple the crowds Mitt did? People don’t have to wonder politically where she stands. Frankly, I don’t blame her either for not jumping in this mess after watching the incompetence of the RNC and lack of support since they all wanted Mitt.

What is laughable is your arrogance and hubris as well as Mitts in not embracing her and the Tea Party by name at the convention while in his infinite wisdom he gives Christie the Backstabber a leading role. All the while the Bamster is pandering to every left wing nut job in his base to get them all out no matter how nutty.

So you typify the “Establishment” condescension and yet garnered 2.5 million less votes than the “laughable” McCain/Palin and deluded yourselves with R+1 polls from 2010 largely due to the Tea Party and took them for granted. Well that 2.5 million would have made the diff and unlike Christie, she kept her mouth shut, was loyal, and did more down ticket work than the rest of the RNC combined.

Meredith on November 9, 2012 at 7:51 PM

Before I start, I’ll make it clear I voted for Romney despite my mistrust and misgivings about the man.

But you were warned – repeatedly – what would happen if you folks pushed forward with Romney’s nomination during the primaries. It’s becoming increasingly clear that a small but significant chunk of the Republican base simply sat this one out. Romney was never really ahead of Obama, except for brief blips in October, and the signs of trouble were simply ignored. Your plan to replace the Republican base with independents obviously failed, given that Romney managed to win them and still lost the election.

It’s unfortunate that the base chose to stay at home, but there you have it. Politics is about the art of the possible, and it’s not possible to win without the base. Throwing temper tantrums after the fact shows you still just don’t get it. You can learn to get along with the Republican base and accept that you’ll have to compromise with them, or you can enjoy being politically irrelevant for the next two or three decades.

Doomberg on November 9, 2012 at 8:23 PM

Well Said

cam2 on November 9, 2012 at 7:48 PM

No problem, was glad to offer what knowledge I could.

Also, as somebody else pointed out, there ARE black Mormons, whom I would guess would vote for Romney far more often than African Americans, but far less often than Caucasian Mormons.

However, because of our, admittedly less than sterling history with African Americans, they aren’t nearly as large a part of our Religion as Hispanic Mormons. We’re working on that, but, historical wounds can take a lot of time to heal.

I focused on Hispanics because they’re probably the single biggest racial minority block within the church. Also, something to keep in mind is that Bush did far better with Hispanics as well, so even if the racial make-up of the church hasn’t changed that much since 2004, that itself could explain it.

Or, it could just be a statistical error. Excluding Utah and Idaho, the two most predominately Mormon states in America, could easily skew the data. Particularly when you consider that Utah and Idaho Mormons tend to run slightly more politically conservative than Mormons in say, Washington state, or New York.

Excluding these states would at least increase the margin of error slightly, and exit polls can already be several points off, as 2004 exit polls demonstrated.

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2012/11/im-making-stand-and-i-will-not-comply.html

M2RB: Kalai

crosspatch on November 9, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Sorry, but you’re wrong. Mormons are overwhelmingly Republican, the reason why Salt Lake City votes in Democratic Mayors is because, there aren’t all that many Mormon’s left in Salt Lake City proper. It’s Utah’s sole urban center, and Mormon’s pretty much only go there to visit Temple Square.

Mormon’s in Utah overwhelmingly live in the suburbs surrounding Salt Lake City. Politically, Salt Lake City is a little blue pin prick in a sea of red.

/sarc

PatriotGal2257 on November 9, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Rush played at least two Christmas songs today to mark little Bammie’s election win.

And he’s black. He was always going to be near-impossible to defeat.

Game – Set – Match

All Hail the Messiah!