Open thread: Obama presser on “fiscal cliff”

posted at 1:01 pm on November 9, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Barack Obama is scheduled to speak on the “fiscal cliff” at 1:15 pm ET today, which means of course that it will probably start closer to 1:30. If so, that won’t be the only familiar aspect of the conversation today.  We’ve been here at least twice during the Obama administration — once immediately after the 2010 midterms, and then again during the summer of 2011.  We’re having this conversation today because we keep kicking the same can down the same road in order to avoid the political consequences of addressing the budgetary and fiscal crises that face the nation.

Will this be any different?  Both sides now say they want to work together, but National Journal’s Major Garrett writes that it will take something for which Obama hasn’t displayed any capacity in four years — flexibility:

Obama has a durable coalition and an undisputed knack for mobilization. He is a campaign innovator and organizer of the first order. But to succeed on his own checklist of second-term pursuits—immigration, tax reform, deficit reduction, and climate change—he will have to do more with the institutional powers of the presidency in conflict with the legislative powers wielded by a Republican House.

The conundrum for Obama is that if he is to succeed, he must decide whether to use his reelection’s apparent endorsement of progressivism as a safe harbor of inactivity or dilute it, to the consternation of his base, and give some ground on the scope and generosity of the entitlement state, the strangling cords of debt, and the inefficiency of the tax code. Democrats sense an Obama desire to shape-shift, but no one is quite sure. That means that the biggest tell in the poker game of all poker games will be found in the lame-duck resolution, or irresolution, of the fiscal cliff.

The president will have to summon his coalition to face hard realities and fateful choices, not all of them comforting, on the questions of aligning what government can do, what taxpayers can finance, and how the books all come into better balance.

Garrett also points out that the economy is now squarely Obama’s, and any damage done now will be owned by the Democrats, not George Bush:

Obama can and will press for immigration reform, and he may get nearly as much as President George W. Bush sought—maybe more, if Republicans shift their sights to their party’s huge demographic hole that the 2012 election starkly revealed among Hispanics. Obama can wrap his arms around the task of reforming the byzantine tax code and, along the way, spike the political football after having won the fight over higher taxes on the wealthy (he did, and so did Senate Democratic victors in MassachusettsNorth DakotaOhio, andWisconsin). But he will have to face the hard reality that higher taxes on the wealthy (even at a $250,000 threshold that may give way to $500,000 or $1 million in congressional negotiations) won’t come close to solving the nation’s deficit and debt ills. The greatest deficit-cutting mechanism is a vibrant economy (see Clinton-era growth, arithmetic). And no matter how much or how little Obama moves the hinge of history, his party will not be able four years hence to blame Bush the younger for economic underperformance.

The economy is now squarely Obama’s, and managing the full implementation of the health care and financial-reform laws will be daunting. Both have profound and as-yet-unfelt tax and regulatory implications.

Will he recognize this and offer some “flexibility” today in search of long-term solutions?  Or will he declare a mandate for tax hikes and offer only the same lip service to serious reform that Obama barely mentioned during his presidential campaign, and which didn’t even rate a serious mention in the second-term agenda pamphlet that showed up in the last two weeks of the election?  And will the press get a chance to ask a few questions of their own — especially about Benghazi?

If I can find a live embed, I will include it in the post.


Related Posts:

Breaking on Hot Air

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

Comment pages: 1 2 3 4

I’d even say stuff like

“It is a shame that at this time and with this economy that President Obama has decided to go gallivanting around the world instead of taking care of business at home.”

“Unfortunately President Obama feels it is more important to go to Myanmar at a time when we need leadership in our country.”

Just keep calling him out.

ProfShadow on November 9, 2012 at 2:47 PM

I like Rush’s proposal…Full amnesty with the caveat that immigrants cannot vote for 25 years…LOL

Mr. Arrogant on November 9, 2012 at 2:48 PM

LOL! Now please clean off my monitor, I’m busy trying to figure out how to be a social security sponge.

JPeterman on November 9, 2012 at 2:46 PM

ask Bishop, the Amish are SS sponges for centuries now :-)…

jimver on November 9, 2012 at 2:50 PM

I won’t have you turning HotAir into a den of iniquity! Get your fix somewhere else!

Nick_Angel on November 9, 2012 at 2:43 PM

It already is, have you seen the quality of trolls around here lately?

JPeterman on November 9, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Let’s not give the Dems a bogey man to blame by digging in our heels on taxes when it’s not going to do anything to avoid the coming economic collapse.

frank63 on November 9, 2012 at 2:44 PM

No.

Sick deluded Obama wants the Bush tax cuts gone, they’re gone.

When the Obama liar starts screaming about “the middle class”, point out that Clinton raised taxes on the middle class and that Bush cut them. Hammer that Obama lied, that Bush cut taxes for everyone and that Obama wants to jack them up.

Make the screaming brat own it.

And frankly, I do not care. The economy will collapse unless the moochers, looters, and pigs that voted for Obama start paying taxes on their entitlement benefits and everything else.

Hike taxes to the ceiling. Make the progs pay. Tell them it’s time to grow up and pay their bills, and if they want free Obamaphones, birth control, and Big Bird, they have to cough up for it.

northdallasthirty on November 9, 2012 at 2:54 PM

The Ruthless and Violent Wing of the Amish has been around since the time of the Pharaohs, in fact we helped the Jews escape Egypt.

Read a book once in a while.

Bishop on November 9, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Did he say “I won”?

Realized I have to get something on my car that tells the world I didn’t vote for that POS.

gophergirl on November 9, 2012 at 2:54 PM

You’re talking consequences. I’m talking reality. You know they’re going to raise the debt limit. They wouldn’t stop it after the strong message given by the 2010 elections. They’re certainly not going to stand strong after the voters voted for santa clause.

The Rogue Tomato on November 9, 2012 at 2:23 PM

.
The reality is the House Republicans elected this week are, as a group, now MORE conservative than the group elected in 2010.

Boehner is not a strong Speaker. He does not reflect the views of a significant portion of House Republicans.

They may now be a majority … in which case, maybe Eric Cantor gets to be Speaker of the House.

I’ll bet you Eric Cantor doesn’t cry … even if you drive over his toes.

The consequences are going to be REALITY – it is a matter of WHEN not IF.

PolAgnostic on November 9, 2012 at 2:54 PM

We built it. They will destroy it. We will take it back and build it again.

Let it burn 2013!

Rockshine on November 9, 2012 at 1:42 PM

That’s the spirit! Well said.

Night Owl on November 9, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Could not bear to watch the dog & pony show.

America fell off the ‘fiscal cliff’ NOV 6, 2012.

Burn, baby, burn.. Hot as hell, from which Obama came forth.

purgatory on November 9, 2012 at 2:54 PM

chucktodd 1 hour 50 mins ago Twitter
The setup for POTUS fiscal cliff remarks. Keeping press so far away, can’t even shout questions twitter.yfrog.com/obijvjq…

aww, Chuckie’s butt hurt :-)

jimver on November 9, 2012 at 2:56 PM

have been coming to the same conclusion over these past few days. While it runs against my grain to EVER increase taxes, lets tax the spit out of the +$1mln income cohort and keep taxes lower for the middle class. As long as the extra revenue is used to reduce debt, I’m kinda warmin’ up to the idea.

Turn this “Republicans = Party of the Rich” meme around.

Old Fritz on November 9, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Make Obama and his Marxists own their catastrophe.

Make Hollywood…Legacy Media…Big Academia…Dept. of Education…PBS…Big Tech…Unions…Cultural Organizations…Art Museums…

Make Every single liberal dominated industry BLEED…MONEY.

economic gorilla warfare

Hold the Centralized Borg Accountable for their New Gulag.

“Bitter cold inside a disaster shelter
‘You could see your breath,’ displaced resident says…

Welcome to the part of the disaster where people start falling through the cracks.

No media is allowed inside the fenced complex
, which houses operations for JCP&L’s army of workers from out of the area. The FEMA website indicated on Monday that there had been a shelter for first responders, utility and construction workers to take a break, although the compound now contains a full-time shelter operated by the state Department of Human Services…”

http://www.app.com/viewart/20121109/NJNEWS/311090027/Oceanport-sandy-shelter

workingclass artist on November 9, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Same old crap.

txhsmom on November 9, 2012 at 2:58 PM

I like Rush’s proposal…Full amnesty with the caveat that immigrants cannot vote for 25 years…LOL

Mr. Arrogant on November 9, 2012 at 2:48 PM

And raise the voting age in the country.

workingclass artist on November 9, 2012 at 3:01 PM

Wow, Petraeus resigns…

ellifint on November 9, 2012 at 3:02 PM

While sailing the interwebs this morning I had ea germ of an idea.
I think is is pretty clear that the government “free cheese” is going to run out in the near future. What will happen to our Obama brothers and sisters when that dreadful day arrives? As a public service, I think we should start a “free cheese” registry. We could start with the known addresses of those who donated to our dear leader, and open it up for individuals to add missing addresses of your neighbors and friends who displayed Obama yard signs.

Once sorted by zip code, our dear Obama brothers and sisters would know where they could go to for their “fair share” of the “free cheese” when the government supply runs out. This would have the added benefit of also being the addresses they would be less likely to be shot at when obtaining their “fair share” of the “free cheese”.

Come on, our fellow Obama brothers and sisters are counting on us to provide them with the shortest path through the maze to the “free cheese”, and I am sure that those on the “free cheese registry” would want their Obama brothers and sisters to find their “free cheese” with the least effort and risk.

djtnt on November 9, 2012 at 3:02 PM

OT

Fox just announced Patraeus resigned.

CJ on November 9, 2012 at 3:02 PM

And raise the voting age in the country.

workingclass artist on November 9, 2012 at 3:01 PM

Nah just make people take a test. That should solve the problem.

gophergirl on November 9, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Petreaus is resigning

workingclass artist on November 9, 2012 at 3:03 PM

The only hope the Republicans have for getting the White House back is if the voters blame the coming economic disaster on the Democrats. Let’s not give the Dems a bogey man to blame by digging in our heels on taxes when it’s not going to do anything to avoid the coming economic collapse.

frank63 on November 9, 2012 at 2:44 PM

So why on earth are Boehner & McConnell opening with ANY kind of offer? Their position should be for the Dems to present their offer as a starting point. Reps have offer plenty of options over the past few years, it’s time to see the Dem plan.

Moose Dung on November 9, 2012 at 3:03 PM

OT. Petreas resigns !!!!

pambi on November 9, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Protect what we have, look out for friends and family and give these fools what they want, I am tired of being demonized over supporting a prosperous and powerful USA. In regards to government corruption, let liberals gorge, in regards to media, who cares, let Obama treat them like dirt, in regards to a fiscal cliff, whatever, Obama won. As for Obamacare, so what, let it kick in and watch more expensive health care that is less quality. And in regards to entitlements, DON”T DO A GOD DANG thing because any choice we make will be about providing political cover to the left, let them solve it.

rob verdi on November 9, 2012 at 3:05 PM

I’ve really never seen the wisdom in the Republican insistence on refusing any – even minimal – increase in tax rates on higher earners. As long as the Dems and the President own the consequences, let it go. Should have taken this talking point away from Obama two years ago when they had the chance. Arguing that the economy will fail if $1,000,000+ earners pay 39% rather than 36% top rate is a losing proposition.

jdp629 on November 9, 2012 at 3:07 PM

“As Sotelo tells it, when it became clear that the residents were less than enamored with their new accommodations Wednesday night and were letting the outside world know about it, officials tried to stop them from taking pictures, turned off the WiFi and said they couldn’t charge their smart phones because there wasn’t enough power.

“My 6-year-old daughter Angie was a premie and has a problem regulating her body temperature,” Sotelo noted. “Until 11 (Wednesday) night they had no medical personnel at all here, not even a nurse. After everyone started complaining and they found out we were contacting the press, they brought people in. Every time we plugged in an iPhone or something, the cops would come and unplug them. Yet when they moved us in they laid out cable on the table and the electricians told us they were setting up charging stations. But suddenly there wasn’t enough power.”

All of this is merely the last straw for a 46-year-old on disability, with two rods and 22 staples in his back.

“The staff at the micro-city are providing for the needs of all the evacuees,” said Nicole Brossoie, spokeswoman for the Department of Human Services. “Each day there is transportation to the pharmacy for prescription medications, if needed. There are ADA (handicapped-accessible) toilets and showers on site…

He was on the barrier islands the day after the storm, as a matter of fact. There had been a foot of water in his place. That’s it. And now he’s left to wonder why he’s still not allowed back.

Even without gas or electric, he figures it has to be better than this place.

“Everybody is angry over here. It’s like being prison,” said Sotelo, who grew up in Wayne. “I’ve been working since I was 10. I’ve been on my own since I was 16. And for things to be so bad that it’s pissing me off, that tells you something….”

http://www.app.com/viewart/20121109/NJNEWS/311090027/Oceanport-sandy-shelter

workingclass artist on November 9, 2012 at 3:07 PM

OT. Petreas resigns !!!!

pambi on November 9, 2012 at 3:04 PM

lookie, they found the scape goat, was wondering…or he wanna be free to talk, which I doubt…

jimver on November 9, 2012 at 3:07 PM

Petreas out because of extra-marital affair ! ?????

pambi on November 9, 2012 at 3:07 PM

Obama claims the majority agree with his approach. I am afraid we are about to feel the tyranny of the majority.

——————————-

“The main danger that worried Aristotle, Madison, and Mill alike was that the majority poor citizenry would vote for confiscatory legislation at the expense of the rich minority. For whatever reason, this has never happened.” . . . Oh yeah, well get ready for a big first.

rplat on November 9, 2012 at 3:07 PM

when it’s not going to do anything to avoid the coming economic collapse.

frank63 on November 9, 2012 at 2:44 PM


I do not think that means what you think it means …

What is coming is a global economic collapse.

It will make the Great Depression seem like a Sunday picnic. (This is going to be more in line with the Fall of Rome.)

It will ignite more than one regional war.

The odds are good it will eventually kill off 1 billion+ people.

It will destroy leveraged credit and collapse governments (think of the fall of communism but happening twenty times faster).

Don’t worry about the media – most of it will disappear.

PolAgnostic on November 9, 2012 at 3:09 PM

We built it. They will destroy it. We will take it back and build it again.

Let it burn 2013!

Rockshine on November 9, 2012 at 1:42 PM
That’s the spirit! Well said.

Night Owl on November 9, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Hear! Hear! And in the interim my family will join the Bishop Amish sect right here in Texas!

texgal on November 9, 2012 at 3:09 PM

GIVE HIM EVERYTHING HE WANTS and when it all comes crashing down say it’s all on you Champ.

Wagthatdog on November 9, 2012 at 3:09 PM

I’m feeling a little Thelma & Louise.

Resist We Much on November 9, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Aw
I just heard John Boehner on the radio.
He’s complaining that taxing the rich hits a lot of small businesses.
Come on, John!
Think cliff.
You know you wanna go there!
We can all go over together!

TarheelBen on November 9, 2012 at 3:10 PM

I’m feeling a little Thelma & Louise.

Resist We Much on November 9, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Yep me too.

gophergirl on November 9, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Mr Garrett could have kept it short. Easy answer, Obama will do what he has shown in his first term, but much more so, he will govern with arrogance and untrammelled, frequent executive order. Like a dictator.

arand on November 9, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Petreas out because of extra-marital affair ! ?????

pambi on November 9, 2012 at 3:07 PM

lool, you can’t make this shite up :-)….seriously, what next, Harry Reid resigns coz he inappropriately touched kids? :-)…or Feinstein after she was caught by a staff having passionate sex with Sheila Jackson Lee in her office…wtf, people, is this the new Amerika?

jimver on November 9, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Yep.
Thelma and Louise.
Let’s hold hands and all go over together!

TarheelBen on November 9, 2012 at 3:12 PM

The progressives were able to put together the coalitions of low-info voters all across the country to re-elect the President and retain the Senate.

However, the GOP representatives in The House should take a good hard look at that district map over on Drudge. That represents the make-up of the people who elected them, and it does not indicate that we want compromise.

Gridlock and obstruction are “features” in the US system of government, intended to prevent a tryanny of the majority. Let us continue to leverage these tools whenever necessary.

Droopy on November 9, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Ahh… The president speaks..
“Hi everybody! Isn’t winning grand?”
[applause]
“And now my plan for the future is to do THE EXACT SAME THING I DID IN 2010″

Barf-o-Rama…

Bozo is still campaigning…

Skywise on November 9, 2012 at 3:15 PM

I’m feeling a little Thelma & Louise.

Resist We Much on November 9, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Yep me too.

gophergirl on November 9, 2012 at 3:11 PM


Think of it as base jumping.

It is time to see who has parachutes and who goes SPLAT!

PolAgnostic on November 9, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Boehner: “We’re not raising taxes on anyone!” = PARTISAN!
Obama: “I’ll veto anything that doesn’t raise taxes on the rich!” = bi-partisan

Americans are smart.

CycloneCDB on November 9, 2012 at 3:18 PM

GIVE HIM EVERYTHING HE WANTS and when it all comes crashing down say it’s all on you Champ.

Wagthatdog on November 9, 2012 at 3:09 PM

I keep thinking this, too; but then I remember Cloward and Piven. The collapse is exactly what they want; and the loving arms of the Government will be waiting to smother her children with love.

Droopy on November 9, 2012 at 3:18 PM

Good Lord is this a press conference or a sycophant meeting? Why are they applauding him?

Skywise on November 9, 2012 at 3:19 PM

I’m not nearly as surprised with the outcome of the presidential election as I’m disheartened and disgusted that my fellow Americans can be this woefully uninformed, easily manipulated and thunderously ignorant. I’ve got a rotting fence post smarter than these mouth breathers.

If you voted for Mr. Obama, you are thunderously dumb and incredibly naive. Believe it. For your intentional ignorance, you will ultimately pay a heavy price that you are obviously too ignorant to understand. Your children and grandchildren will pay an even heavier burden. America will pay the heaviest burden. Thanks for nothing, numbskulls.

The NUGE

tom daschle concerned on November 9, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Yay, Obamacare!

Just got our new rates for next year, and… wait, aren’t I supposed to be saving money? Well, my goodness, look at this – and ‘unexpected’ increase of just under 10%!

*And* we’re going to have tax increases, yay!

God forgive me, I hate that f@#$er and everyone associated with him, everyone who voted for him, and those who sat on their asses and didn’t vote at all.

Midas on November 9, 2012 at 3:25 PM

I keep thinking this, too; but then I remember Cloward and Piven. The collapse is exactly what they want; and the loving arms of the Government will be waiting to smother her children with love.

Droopy on November 9, 2012 at 3:18 PM

Except that strategy was to have it go bad on the R’s watch, not theirs.

Tater Salad on November 9, 2012 at 3:27 PM

lool, you can’t make this shite up :-)….seriously, what next, Harry Reid resigns coz he inappropriately touched kids? :-)…or Feinstein after she was caught by a staff having passionate sex with Sheila Jackson Lee in her office…wtf, people, is this the new Amerika?

jimver on November 9, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Nah, Dems don’t resign in disgrace – it’s a resume enhancer for them.

Midas on November 9, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Obama can’t lose. If the republicans in the house refuse any tax increases, then sequestration takes place, which is what he wants. The republicans get the blame for all the cuts that then occur. If they do compromise and let the Bush tax cuts expire, then they lose their base, and Obama wins again.

415woman1 on November 9, 2012 at 3:33 PM

Except that strategy was to have it go bad on the R’s watch, not theirs.

Tater Salad on November 9, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Agreed. But let’s not help it go bad.

The R’s in the House need to dig in their heels and say, “No.”

If the D’s don’t compromise, and it goes to pot, it is their fault. Remember, the Barry said he’d work with anyone. He lied.

We have 2 more years before mid-terms, I think some interesting stuff will break to make the low-info voters forget this. But, do not be complicit; just as we were not with O’care.

Droopy on November 9, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Folks, you should read that article about ORCA in the headlines.
ORCA was the Romney GOTV plan.
It was completely dysfunctional.
It’s painful.

TarheelBen on November 9, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Effin’-Aayy, Bubba.

-PrepperMark (fomerly known as SailorMark)

SailorMark on November 9, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Never been called a Bubba before, lol. Maybe, a Bubbette?

That’s not letting Obama get what he SAYS he wants, though.

The Rogue Tomato on November 9, 2012 at 2:38 PM

He wants a “balanced approach.” A balanced approach is letting the Obama tax hikes hit everyone who pays taxes. We can ALL suffer. That’s fair, balanced and equal.

Burn, Baby, Burn.

Fallon on November 9, 2012 at 3:35 PM

I’m feeling a little Thelma & Louise.

Resist We Much on November 9, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Yep me too.

gophergirl on November 9, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Any room for another, oh I don’t know, “Sally” in the convertible? Thelma (RWM), Louis (GG) and Sally (Fallon).

Thelma Dickerson: [with a cliff in front of them and cops behind them]

Thelma Dickerson: OK, then listen; let’s not get caught.

Sally [in the back seat, nods her head in agreement]

Louise Sawyer: What’re you talkin’ about?

Thelma Dickerson: Let’s keep goin’!

Sally [in the back seat, shakes her head in agreement]

Louise Sawyer: What d’you mean?

Thelma Dickerson: …Go.

Thelma Dickerson: [Thelma nods ahead of them]

Louise Sawyer: You sure?

Sally [in the back seat, nods her head in agreement]

Thelma Dickerson: Yeah.

Fallon on November 9, 2012 at 3:43 PM

He wants a “balanced approach.” A balanced approach is letting the Obama tax hikes hit everyone who pays taxes. We can ALL suffer. That’s fair, balanced and equal.

Burn, Baby, Burn.

Fallon on November 9, 2012 at 3:35 PM

I think we should press for a Carbon Tax, and a VAT tax as well.
Let the left have all the stuff they want.
Put them into effect with the $500 billion in new Obamacare taxes.

TarheelBen on November 9, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Petreas out because of extra-marital affair ! ?????

pambi on November 9, 2012 at 3:07 PM

The irony…. The entire federal government has been giving it to us up the wazzoo, without lube, for decades, and this guy shags one woman and loses his job over it?

Something isn’t right here. I’ll bet he threatened to come clean about Benghazi or something, and the slimy 0bama machine made the whole thing up and fed it to the press.

UltimateBob on November 9, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Don’t worry about the media – most of it will disappear.

PolAgnostic on November 9, 2012 at 3:09 PM

So, that’s something to look forward to.

dogsoldier on November 9, 2012 at 4:01 PM

I hope the Republicans give him everything he wants and then watch the fun. If our economic theory is correct, the economy isn’t going to boom while being taxed at the rates Obama wants to tax it, so just let him win and then take the heat when the economy continues to under-perform.

bflat879 on November 9, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Haven’t we learned anything? Of course Obama can blame Bush four years from now. Four years ago I heard that he couldn’t blame Bush after his first term, and he did. Whether it’s the public school system or the drugs, the Obama voters will never blame Obama, and if they can’t blame Bush, they will blame the Republican Congress. In fact, they are probably setting up the Republicans as I write this in order to nail them in the mid-terms, and it will work too because they won’t have the Tea Party to save their ass this time.

lea on November 9, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Chicago had a job fair for govt. jobs. Thousands in line only to find out they were there to learn how to write a resume. No hiring going on at the job fair.

And at least one person complained that they should be handing out gift cards for Walmart or other stores for the time people spent in line! Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! Gimme Population.

polarglen on November 9, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Our goal should be to sign on to any policies, any tax increases that sink the economy, provided that Obama and the Dems are essentially guaranteed the blame.

Take a hard line on the deficit for public consumption, including eliminating all the Bush tax cuts.

“Every american should have skin in the game.”

matthew8787 on November 9, 2012 at 4:31 PM

Haven’t we learned anything? Of course Obama can blame Bush four years from now. Four years ago I heard that he couldn’t blame Bush after his first term, and he did. Whether it’s the public school system or the drugs, the Obama voters will never blame Obama, and if they can’t blame Bush, they will blame the Republican Congress. In fact, they are probably setting up the Republicans as I write this in order to nail them in the mid-terms, and it will work too because they won’t have the Tea Party to save their ass this time.

lea on November 9, 2012 at 4:07 PM

A+. My QOTD.

RedCrow on November 9, 2012 at 4:43 PM

And at least one person complained that they should be handing out gift cards for Walmart or other stores for the time people spent in line! Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! Gimme Population.

polarglen on November 9, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Yes, then stop whining about taxes going up. The tax cuts were never realistic and there’s no way to balance the budget with spending cuts alone. It’s amazing how the people victimized by the existence of food stamps are also victimized by paying the same tax rates that previous generations have stepped up and paid without incessantly complaining about it.

bayam on November 9, 2012 at 6:14 PM

And no matter how much or how little Obama moves the hinge of history, his party will not be able four years hence to blame Bush the younger for economic underperformanc

Huh? Sure they will. They’re all for having the reins of power, but failure is always the fault of someone else.

GarandFan on November 9, 2012 at 7:19 PM

If the GOP goes for amnesty, then they are going to sink themselves permanently.

Quartermaster on November 10, 2012 at 5:15 PM

Comment pages: 1 2 3 4