Miller: If Romney’s what’s wrong with America, this country has serious problems

posted at 8:41 am on November 8, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

On the O’Reilly Factor last night, Dennis Miller gave voice to something that I’ve been pondering since last Tuesday night. One very grave disappoint of this election cycle (of which there are certainly very many) is that Team Obama is basically getting off scot-free with such a viciously negative, personal, and populist campaign. They’ve in essence been rewarded for relentlessly calling Mitt Romney a heartless corporate raider and vulture capitalist, a tax-sheltering sneak thief, a greedy sycophant who may-or-may-not be a felon and is pretty much responsible for cancer deaths via factory closures.

The Obama campaign put their full weight into making Mitt Romney into somebody we all need to be scared of, instead of what he actually is: A pretty admirable representative of the possibilities of the American dream. Sure, he started out with a good leg up (what parent doesn’t aspire to provide a better life for their children?), but he was hugely successful on his own merits; spent his life highly focused on family, religion, and community; and was a bigtime go-getter who personally created jobs and economic growth. The personal and class-warfare-oriented attacks all seemed to imply that Mitt Romney is what’s wrong with America, but if we can’t recognize that he personally is at least one type (and there are many types) of exactly what’s right with America, then this is even more serious than we thought.

I want to say that I have met Romney. Folks, I know a lot of you have been convinced out there that this guy is the problem with America. He’s not. He’s a very good man, he cares greatly about this country. … He’s a great patriot. I know that that side is going to paint him as the trouble with America. If he’s the trouble with America. If he’s the trouble with America, folks, this country does have a lot, a lot of problems.

I’m hoping it’s a good sign that, after the first debate when Americans finally saw and listened to Mitt Romney in person without all of the extra noise, there was a massive popular shift in his direction, but however great or small a factor all the negativity really was, it was part and parcel of a strategy that worked for Team Obama, and the fact that they believed such attacks were part of an effective path to victory is enough in and of itself.

In that vein, some food for thought, via Tom Bevan and Carl Cannon at RCP:

Romney’s critics on both the right and the left often accused him of lacking “a core,” but those who are close him believe this misses the essence of the man utterly. “Core” values to Romney are his church and family, and to them he is a consistently devoted servant.

Mark McKinnon, a confidant of George W. Bush, describes Romney as a good man whose values run deep, but whose politics are “transactional.” That’s hardly a sin, given that the two party’s politics are transactional as well. …

To liberal writer Ezra Klein, Romney’s problem — in terms of how he’s perceived — is that what he most values is empirical data, which he thinks complement his natural management skills.

“A lifetime of data has proven to him that he’s extraordinarily, even uniquely, good at managing and leading organizations, projects and people,” Klein writes. “It’s those skills, rather than specific policy ideas, that he sees as his unique contribution. That has been the case everywhere else he has worked, and he assumes it will be the case in the White House, too.”


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The most dangerous aspect of this is that Obama has succeeded in turning our politics into the politics of Race.

For now any dissent is now a product of racism or some other form of bigotry.

This is near total in our culture and perpetuated by a compliant propaganda driven media.

This is worse than the 60′s and 70′s.

The crime of Romney was to be white,successful,male and religious…and to oppose Obama.

“Voting is the best revenge” Obama

Obama was offended by an opposition or criticism and because his is a personality cult, we must do everything we can to stop this insidious disease in our culture.

No more personality cults on either side of politics.

We are Americans and we must not surrender to an idea of a king or queen as a political savior.

workingclass artist on November 8, 2012 at 10:41 AM

Badger40 on November 8, 2012 at 9:06 AM

I burned my flags yesterday-so I’ve got nothing to fly.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 8, 2012 at 10:44 AM

So only career politicians should be allowed to run for office? Isn’t this allegedly a government of the people?

Dante on November 8, 2012 at 9:17 AM

Ashley Judd? You should be banned for stupidity.

mwbri on November 8, 2012 at 9:38 AM

You missed the point fantastically.

Dante on November 8, 2012 at 9:52 AM

“You missed the point fantastically” are my exact words to you, Dante. Think about it. A media source hypes a know-nothing actress without any political experience simply for being perky and liberal. Compare the words “fifth column” with the words “fourth estate” and my point to you will no longer be missed.

joeeddie on November 8, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Miller is spot on.

O’Reilly is dead wrong.

One caveat – the paper towel at the end…it’s not that, it’s toilet paper.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2012 at 10:45 AM

astonerii on November 8, 2012 at 9:53 AM

The real problem is that the Republican party has actually been progressive lite all of my lifetime (Born 1951). Ronald Reagan was an anomaly for the party. People think it is conservative when it is not. That is not to say there aren’t conservatives within the party but it’s structure and power core is not conservative.

chemman on November 8, 2012 at 10:45 AM

We have got to start hitting the media for their three to one promotion of the liberal view. If we, the public, don’t demand equal time then we aren’t going to get it.

Cindy Munford on November 8, 2012 at 10:48 AM

One very grave disappoint of this election cycle (of which there are certainly very many) is that Team Obama is basically getting off scot-free with such a viciously negative, personal, and populist campaign.

You are such an adorable cross eyed moron. So let me get this straight-Obama was viciously negative?

This site is filled with invective and puss. Rat eared, Obowma, statist, liar, idiot, scoamf, purple lipped. Sununu said he was not a real American. The surrogates delighted in calling Obama some of the most insulting things ever said about a sitting president. “YOU LIE!” blah blah blah. Thing is Barry can take it so no bfd. Nut up ffs, that was SOP and you know it.

They’ve in essence been rewarded for relentlessly calling Mitt Romney a heartless corporate raider and vulture capitalist, a tax-sheltering sneak thief, a greedy sycophant who may-or-may-not be a felon and is pretty much responsible for cancer deaths via factory closures.

This was almost completely true.

The Obama campaign put their full weight into making Mitt Romney into somebody we all need to be scared of, instead of what he actually is: A pretty admirable representative of the possibilities of the American dream. Sure, he started out with a good leg up (what parent doesn’t aspire to provide a better life for their children?), but he was hugely successful on his own merits;

Yes he lived in France and lived at Harvard for most of his youth thanks to coal mine work in his early teens. He really wanted to serve in teh Vietnam war but you konw he had to continually get deferments out of patriotism.

spent his life highly focused on family, religion, and community;

These are the same thing because of the cult he belongs to. And if you weren’t Moromon, well nothing for you.

and was a bigtime go-getter who personally created jobs and economic growth. The personal and class-warfare-oriented attacks all seemed to imply that Mitt Romney is what’s wrong with America, but if we can’t recognize that he personally is at least one type (and there are many types) of exactly what’s right with America, then this is even more serious than we thought.

When he spoke to that group of ravenous contributers and just oh so casually dismissed 47 percent of the country as victims who did not want to take care of themselves he revealed who he really was. But it didn’t take that candid moment to clue most of the country in to who he really was. A typical creepy wealthy boss. There’s one in every town.

Mitt lost this election because he’s a jerk, teabaggers are jerks, and the people at sites like this are jerks. You bash W but at least he wasn’t a jerk.

After this you can all go back to rooting for stagflation.

tommyhawk on November 8, 2012 at 10:51 AM

The real problem is that the Republican party has actually been progressive lite all of my lifetime (Born 1951). Ronald Reagan was an anomaly for the party. People think it is conservative when it is not. That is not to say there aren’t conservatives within the party but it’s structure and power core is not conservative.

chemman on November 8, 2012 at 10:45 AM

I know. I really wish conservatives would make their own party. Make it a conservative structure. Make it a litmus test required to belong.

I was 11 when Reagan was sworn in. I knew he was different. Newt was the next great thing for conservatism. Tea party the next, but it devolved into a libertarian movement.

astonerii on November 8, 2012 at 10:56 AM

“Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.”

– H. L. Mencken

He is, of course, referring to universal suffrage democracy.

Those who reelected the socialist will be the ones hurt most by his and his party’s policies. They are too stupid to know this. You can’t fix stupid. You can only try to distance and protect yourself from the damage it does.

The wise among those who did not vote for Moar Socialism should know what’s coming and be prepared for it. Most of the ones who did vote for it — and for trillion dollar deficits as far as the eye can see — will not be prepared. They are clueless.

Oh, and all of those Dem politicians who use their position and power to get wealthy, and those limousine liberals on the coasts and in the MSM making six and seven figure salaries, they won’t be hurt as bad as the common man either.

farsighted on November 8, 2012 at 10:56 AM

“You missed the point fantastically” are my exact words to you, Dante. Think about it. A media source hypes a know-nothing actress without any political experience simply for being perky and liberal. Compare the words “fifth column” with the words “fourth estate” and my point to you will no longer be missed.

joeeddie on November 8, 2012 at 10:44 AM

So I guess the answer to my question that I asked you (and which you didn’t answer) is yes, you believe the only people who should run for office are career politicians.

Dante on November 8, 2012 at 10:57 AM

We have got to start hitting the media for their three to one promotion of the liberal view. If we, the public, don’t demand equal time then we aren’t going to get it.

Cindy Munford on November 8, 2012 at 10:48 AM

Not supporting their advertisers is a good way start.

/1 of 57,468,587

roy_batty on November 8, 2012 at 10:57 AM

Resist We Much on November 8, 2012 at 9:16 AM

Bishop on November 8, 2012 at 9:16 AM

You two rock!!!

tommyhawk on November 8, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Obama and his, YOU, are thugs. May all that you wish for befall you. No one deserves it more!

Decency lost.

Thuggery won.

We’ll take care of you, private or gov’t.

Actions have consequences. You’ll learn it the very hard way.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2012 at 10:58 AM

). Ronald Reagan was an anomaly for the party. People think it is conservative when it is not. That is not to say there aren’t conservatives within the party but it’s structure and power core is not conservative.

chemman on November 8, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Ronald Reagan was no anomaly. He grew government, he raised taxes, he grew the debt and deficit, he increased regulations, he raised tariffs, he intervened in the market and abroad, and he surrounded himself with Keynesians.

Dante on November 8, 2012 at 10:59 AM

Mitt lost this election because he’s a jerk, teabaggers are jerks, and the people at sites like this are jerks. You bash W but at least he wasn’t a jerk.

After this you can all go back to rooting for stagflation.

tommyhawk on November 8, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Feel better now?

VegasRick on November 8, 2012 at 10:59 AM

Mitt lost this election because he’s a jerk, teabaggers are jerks, and the people at sites like this are jerks. You bash W but at least he wasn’t a jerk.

tommyhawk on November 8, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Project much?

Fallon on November 8, 2012 at 10:59 AM

Must listen to, long as it is.

If you are an independent person, live free.

Slavery is for rats and plankton.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2012 at 11:00 AM

Do you have any regrets about picking Romney? Do you think another candidate could’ve beaten Obama?

Time Lord on November 8, 2012 at 9:46 AM

I did not pick Romney as a candidate-I voted for Newt. I voted for Romney in the presidential election, however.

totherightofthem on November 8, 2012 at 11:00 AM

Sorry, here’s the link.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2012 at 11:00 AM

If Hot Air does not rid itself of the cesspool dwellers it is going to die. I never thought that I would see the day that this blog would allow commenters to call the Hot Air bloggers names and be able to stay here. It is time to clean house. Yeah, good times.

d1carter on November 8, 2012 at 11:01 AM

Mitt lost this election because he’s a jerk, teabaggers are jerks, and the people at sites like this are jerks. You bash W but at least he wasn’t a jerk.

After this you can all go back to rooting for stagflation.

tommyhawk on November 8, 2012 at 10:51 AM

I’ve never seen so many people (libs) spend so much time in places they hate. What is that? I don’t go to Kos, HuffPo, etc. because they’re just unpleasant (with rants like these commonplace). Why is it these people feel the need to come here?

CycloneCDB on November 8, 2012 at 11:01 AM

Tommyhawk – the only solace I take from this election is that jerks like you will suffer just as much as everyone else will from the policies of your butt boy Barack.

We can only pray for stagflation but the inevitable will be depression and unemployment for millions more people and hopefully, HOPEFULLY it affects you and your side more so than patriotic pro-Americans.

Sporty1946 on November 8, 2012 at 11:02 AM

Do you have any regrets about picking Romney? Do you think another candidate could’ve beaten Obama?

Time Lord on November 8, 2012 at 9:46 AM

No one can beat a land of 52% moochers. Let them starve/die, or get ruined to pain, in their modern day plantations.

They deserve no less.

Do your thing. Whatever it is, starve them. Above all starve the Utopian machine. Don’t feed the looters. They exploit these fools, for votes only, keep them this ignorant and in bondage, while they live like the Obamas. It’s all in front of everyone’s eyes.

Those who are blind must be made to suffer.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2012 at 11:03 AM

After this you can all go back to rooting for stagflation.

tommyhawk on November 8, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Depression will be upon the land in no time. It’s all around you and about to go deep, but you can’t see. You’ll fell it, soon.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2012 at 11:04 AM

There’s a problem with country but it isn’t Mitt Romney! When a congressman, under investigation by the FBI for misuse of campaign funds (fraud), that hasn’t been seen in the halls of Congress for 6 months or better, can get re-elected to office with a 63% margin, there’s a problem. When your whole train of thought in the election booth is how cool the guy is you intend to vote for, there’s a problem.When 14 million of us stay home because the candidate of their party is not of a faith that we approve,or he’s not the one we chose during the primaries, there’s a problem. Just remember, “socialism only works until you run out of other peoples’ money!” That day is not far off!

Boats48 on November 8, 2012 at 11:04 AM

Sorry, here’s the link.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2012 at 11:00 AM

Saved to favs – sure to watch later. A new movement is needed and guys like Bill W. will be the starters.

VegasRick on November 8, 2012 at 11:04 AM

Right. Then how stupid was it to let the dems spend 100M all summer character assassinating you in swing states with no reply? “No, people don’t pay attention until after Labor Day…”

How’d that work out for you?

The big blunder of 2012.

You were playing catchup in Ohio after being typecast. Don’t go pointing fingers at anyone else. Your advisors were terrible on that and ground game.

Starlink on November 8, 2012 at 8:59 AM

Why was he unable to respond to the attacks when they were made? So the genius who wanted the GOP Primary to go on all the way to a brokered convention was wrong?

Basilsbest on November 8, 2012 at 11:04 AM

Ronald Reagan was no anomaly. He grew government, he raised taxes, he grew the debt and deficit, he increased regulations, he raised tariffs, he intervened in the market and abroad, and he surrounded himself with Keynesians.

Dante on November 8, 2012 at 10:59 AM

GREAT revisionism!!! Total drivel and insane analysis is typical of leftists though.

Sporty1946 on November 8, 2012 at 11:05 AM

CycloneCDB on November 8, 2012 at 11:01 AM

Because they are moochers, the lowest scum of the Earth.

Starve them.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2012 at 11:05 AM

VegasRick on November 8, 2012 at 11:04 AM

Forget the sissy Rs and definitely starve the Ds.

Use your independent mind and live well. None are worth your effort and treasure, none.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2012 at 11:06 AM

Rywall, why are you not out there in the Utopian world, helping the downtrodden, doing something within the UN, or such?

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2012 at 11:09 AM

No one can beat a land of 52% moochers. Let them starve/die, or get ruined to pain, in their modern day plantations.

They deserve no less.

Do your thing. Whatever it is, starve them. Above all starve the Utopian machine. Don’t feed the looters. They exploit these fools, for votes only, keep them this ignorant and in bondage, while they live like the Obamas. It’s all in front of everyone’s eyes.

Those who are blind must be made to suffer.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2012 at 11:03 AM

you nuts learned your lesson, I see. Good luck in 2016!

lostmotherland on November 8, 2012 at 11:09 AM

CycloneCDB on November 8, 2012 at 11:01 AM

Because they are moochers, the lowest scum of the Earth.

Starve them.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2012 at 11:05 AM

In all seriousness – I wonder if figuring out why these people crave such confrontation won’t tell us a little more about the psyche that pervades the 25% moocher/25% enabler democrat vote.

CycloneCDB on November 8, 2012 at 11:09 AM

ktrich on November 8, 2012 at 9:07 AM

I know how you feel, but you keep teaching them the TRUTH. You fight the immorality with all your strength.

pannw on November 8, 2012 at 9:41 AM

I’ve raised mine according to Biblical Truth also and was very strict as you. Monitored TV programs and music. “Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it” Prov.22:6 This is our Christian duty. Oh, the word “old” means mature, not age:-) They may rebel some and even stumble, but as they mature, they “will not depart from it” Lord willing you will see the fruit of your work; I have mine. Now they are teachers in their sphere and help others. So take heart and continue in your good work with your families and your children. A Scripture that was helpful to me is Eph. 1:1-3

May God Bless you both and your children.

bluefox on November 8, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Ronald Reagan was no anomaly. He grew government, he raised taxes, he grew the debt and deficit, he increased regulations, he raised tariffs, he intervened in the market and abroad, and he surrounded himself with Keynesians.

Dante on November 8, 2012 at 10:59 AM

Ronald Reagan had to deal with a progressive republican party that was mostly a minority in both the house and the senate, while his main foes in getting things done were Democrats who controlled both the House all of the time and the Senate for most of the time. Thus, Reagan, if not hamstrung by the progressive majority of the congress most likely would have shrunk government.

Newt Gingrich in the primaries was attacked for not being fully on board with Reagan, the reason was the Newt was pushing for more conservative policy than Reagan was able to get out of the congress.

Regulation by the way always increase. As knowledge and activity increase, so will regulations. It is just part and parcel of life. I would be no different with out government. As your activities on your property still effect other people’s properties, and the people around you would force you to make changes in how you do things so that your activities do not unduly effect their property rights.

You pride yourself in knowing history, but the only aspects of history you KNOW are the tiny little tidbits that are microscopic in total compared to the full of history.

Remember, Indians had no government according to you.

LOL, OMG Seriously, you claim they were government free!!! LOL. In what wet dream did you come up with that argument?

astonerii on November 8, 2012 at 11:12 AM

Forget the sissy Rs and definitely starve the Ds.

Use your independent mind and live well. None are worth your effort and treasure, none.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2012 at 11:06 AM

Sorry brother but I can’t give up. 5 children on this earth the youngest being twin 16 year old boys, I will stand up to and fight the good fight even though it seems imposible to win. I don’t cry very often but Tuesday night I shed many tears watching what this country has become and pondering the future for us. Oh, and the a$$holes that will respond to my comment here, you can FOAD as you are the biggest part of the problem. losers.

VegasRick on November 8, 2012 at 11:14 AM

Actions have consequences. You’ll learn it the very hard way.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2012 at 10:58 AM

Haha. You are the most impotent of the Limbaughians! Viagra for everyone!

tommyhawk on November 8, 2012 at 11:14 AM

tommyhawk on November 8, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Poor thing..your comments were completely wrong…no surprise as every single thing you’ve ever posted here has been based in ignorance.

I feel sad for you scooter…your Prezzy is still an abject failure. He always will be..just like you and the rest of your ilk. Enjoy the short time you have left on Uncle Sam’s teat…and enjoy your ObamaPhone…your minutes are about up.

More job cuts are coming. Taxes will go up and tax revenues will continue to go down. Folk like you will be in for a world of hurt.

And a further note…Obama will never be 1/100th of the man Mitt Romney is. No matter how many times he appears on the cover of Vanity Fair.

HumpBot Salvation on November 8, 2012 at 11:20 AM

VegasRick on November 8, 2012 at 11:14 AM

Never to give up. Fight, fight, fight, but don’t feed the Utopian pipedream of the left. Make them pay for their stupidities.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2012 at 11:21 AM

you nuts learned your lesson, I see. Good luck in 2016!

lostmotherland on November 8, 2012 at 11:09 AM

I need no luck, fool. I worked hard and am completely independent of you and anyone else, fool. You are the moochers/looters. You need all the luck, you rats.

p.s. your nom is the most perfect, right after mine. I will laugh at you, any day, any time.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2012 at 11:24 AM

you nuts learned your lesson, I see. Good luck in 2016!

lostmotherland on November 8, 2012 at 11:09 AM

Apparently you nuts didn’t learn yours. Good luck trying to find enough money to feed your hopeless dreams of utopia!

darwin on November 8, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Rywall, why are you not out there in the Utopian world, helping the downtrodden, doing something within the UN, or such?

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2012 at 11:09 AM

He’s too busy hanging around the beaches of Australia sucking in the socialist air down under. Hey, Dave, don’t die. It takes months to get buried over there.

totherightofthem on November 8, 2012 at 11:25 AM

If Obama can win by using lies could Romney have gained more points by stating the truth?! Was not the truth be even more devastating to Obama than the lies were towards Romney? But if he’s not going to use the truth than it doesn’t matter!

It is about the very roots and foundation of our constitution! Self government! Liberty! Words Romney would never if ever use!
JellyToast on November 8, 2012 at 9:37 AM

+1000!!!

Truth is the only thing that exposes lies, the ONLY thing.

Great comments!! Thank you.

bluefox on November 8, 2012 at 11:26 AM

you nuts learned your lesson, I see. Good luck in 2016!

lostmotherland on November 8, 2012 at 11:09 AM

I learned the big lesson, not to produce, work loooong hours, risk, invest, help lots of others, etc. when Mr. Choom took over, sustained by rats of the world.

I don’t need re-learning now. I’ll just continue to strike, fool. Starve and live/die in the dark. I’ll just laugh at you.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2012 at 11:26 AM

VegasRick on November 8, 2012 at 11:14 AM

Never to give up. Fight, fight, fight, but don’t feed the Utopian pipedream of the left. Make them pay for their stupidities.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2012 at 11:21 AM

We need to come together as a group and organize, somehow somewhere and start a real movement, not rallys and speeches but a real hard hitting organization. I am normally not one to call for boycotts and such but we have to do something. What it is I don’t know. YET>

VegasRick on November 8, 2012 at 11:27 AM

“The right thing changed on Tuesday” – Dennis Miller in the video

Correctomundo.

The promised fundamental transformation of America has been achieved.

Red America needs to emulate the successful radicals – gays, Muslims, the social justice churches etc – and begin the long, hard process of building parallel structures.

(The jihadist theorists call this model “Governance in the Wilderness” and they have had great success in Europe. It might be worth the while for conservative Catholics to look at this template if they want to mount a resitance to Obamacare.)

Bill Whittle has a wonderful video on this process:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s02SypCcYIc&feature=youtu.be

It’s 90 minutes – well worth the time, even if watched in fits and starts.

And end the Hollywood tax breaks, encourage “digital socialism”

(http://www.morganwarstler.com/post/35224055375/digital-socialism-atomic-capitalism)

Become guerrillas in the culture war – Brietbart Lives!

Bruno Strozek on November 8, 2012 at 11:29 AM

This country will be unrecognizable in four years. Taken down the road to perdition and ruin by a narcissistic, petulant and nefarious man/child. This is the beginning of the end of what this once proud nation always stood for. It’s all over.

“But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.” (2 Timothy 3.13).

elihu on November 8, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Dave Rywall on November 8, 2012 at 9:22 AM

You didn’t leave Canada because of Harpers majority did you?

Pretty expensive protest Dave. And now you must be thinking of going back now that Justin, son of (pick a Rolling Stone) is running for the Liberal leadership. Rock Star looks and his mothers brain. You must be excited by that Dave. Heh!

BL@KBIRD on November 8, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Become guerrillas in the culture war – Brietbart Lives!

Bruno Strozek on November 8, 2012 at 11:29 AM

Haha! I guess you didn’t hear-he still Deads. Have fun fringey.

tommyhawk on November 8, 2012 at 11:31 AM

I said it often here, during/after the primaries, being called names by the Rs here, especially the Mittens (this is a term of endearment) – thuggery and charlatanry can only be beaten with something tougher than that. The polite Rs still imagine that Chicago thugs can be beaten with silky gloves.

Decency lost.

Thuggery won.

I’ll just be schadenfreudig at both sides. If it hurts you, wake up and fight or do something about it. Being polite to rats won’t affect them in the least. They’ll just multiply. I poison them.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2012 at 11:32 AM

I also starve them.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2012 at 11:32 AM

Haha! I guess you didn’t hear-he still Deads. Have fun fringey.

tommyhawk on November 8, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Leftist schools on display, ladies and gents.

His spirit will always live and you will always be no more than a rat in the latrine.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2012 at 11:34 AM

I learned the big lesson, not to produce, work loooong hours, risk, invest, help lots of others, etc. when Mr. Choom took over, sustained by rats of the world.

I don’t need re-learning now. I’ll just continue to strike, fool. Starve and live/die in the dark. I’ll just laugh at you.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2012 at 11:26 AM

You are obviously nuts. And definitely a liar. I stopped working to starve you! It’s all part of my master plan! Liar. haha Good to see you guys are so delusional even still. Keep up the fight!

tommyhawk on November 8, 2012 at 11:34 AM

We need to come together as a group and organize, somehow somewhere and start a real movement, not rallys and speeches but a real hard hitting organization. I am normally not one to call for boycotts and such but we have to do something. What it is I don’t know. YET>

VegasRick on November 8, 2012 at 11:27 AM

Yeah, um so there are these people called teabaggers…

Hard to believe that failed movement was only 2 years ago.

tommyhawk on November 8, 2012 at 11:35 AM

astonerii on November 8, 2012 at 9:53 AM

The Republicans have damaged the Republican Party. They work against the Tea Party and the Conservatives. Now I know that you know there is a difference between the Republicans & Conservatives. Romney was/is not a Conservative, but that’s what the Establishment Republicans wanted this time.

They wanted B.O. re-elected to make way for:

On Deck for 2016: Jeb Bush/Marco Rubio

bluefox on November 8, 2012 at 11:37 AM

So I guess the answer to my question that I asked you (and which you didn’t answer) is yes, you believe the only people who should run for office are career politicians.

Dante on November 8, 2012 at 10:57 AM

See…That’s why you’re an idiot.

Solaratov on November 8, 2012 at 11:37 AM

I’m setting up a consulting firm for the new cap & trade energy exchange that starts on January 1st in California (background in engineering & architecture from U.C. Berkeley).

I estimate I can make $1200 a day advising businesses to leave California.

Mitt Romney is my inspiration.
I love capitalism.
.
$

MichaelGabriel on November 8, 2012 at 11:37 AM

tommyhawk

HA Community Bulletin Board

Poster: tommyhawk

TROLLCOTT

Bruno Strozek on November 8, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Leftist schools on display, ladies and gents.

His spirit will always live and you will always be no more than a rat in the latrine.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2012 at 11:34 AM

By spirit I assume you mean booze. Which he was filled with. Like you he was a delusional typist who abused the government sponsored privilege of the internet.

tommyhawk on November 8, 2012 at 11:38 AM

The Republicans have damaged the Republican Party. They work against the Tea Party and the Conservatives. Now I know that you know there is a difference between the Republicans & Conservatives. Romney was/is not a Conservative, but that’s what the Establishment Republicans wanted this time.

They wanted B.O. re-elected to make way for:

On Deck for 2016: Jeb Bush/Marco Rubio

bluefox on November 8, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Haha we won Florida and….Florida…

tommyhawk on November 8, 2012 at 11:39 AM

We need to come together as a group and organize, somehow somewhere and start a real movement, not rallys and speeches but a real hard hitting organization. I am normally not one to call for boycotts and such but we have to do something. What it is I don’t know. YET>

VegasRick on November 8, 2012 at 11:27 AM

Yep Yep and Yep

Our GOTV effort for the next election has to blow the liberals away.

gophergirl on November 8, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Yeah, um so there are these people called teabaggers…

Hard to believe that failed movement was only 2 years ago.

tommyhawk on November 8, 2012 at 11:35 AM

No scooter, liberal ball sucking deviates like you are called Tea Baggers. Patriots who love their country and brought about the largest party switch in the house in 80 years..they are called the TEA PARTY. And oh yeah, almost all of them were re-elected.

So go back to sucking balls…scooter. No one is interested in your drivel.

HumpBot Salvation on November 8, 2012 at 11:42 AM

workingclass artist on November 8, 2012 at 10:04 AM

The many causes you have stated are correct. However, they may all be in for a rude awakening. Experience is a very hard teacher but that’s the only way when wisdom is rejected.

bluefox on November 8, 2012 at 11:42 AM

Haha! I guess you didn’t hear-he still Deads. Have fun fringey.

tommyhawk on November 8, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Watch out! We have an Ivy Leaguer here! Must have a major in crop circles and a minor in drum circles.

BL@KBIRD on November 8, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Watch out! We have an Ivy Leaguer here! Must have a major in crop circles and a minor in drum circles.

BL@KBIRD on November 8, 2012 at 11:43 AM

LOL

Yeah, tommy gives dbear a run for the money in the most ignorant troll category.

HumpBot Salvation on November 8, 2012 at 11:46 AM

No scooter, liberal ball sucking deviates like you are called Tea Baggers. Patriots who love their country and brought about the largest party switch in the house in 80 years..they are called the TEA PARTY. And oh yeah, almost all of them were re-elected.

So go back to sucking balls…scooter. No one is interested in your drivel.

HumpBot Salvation on November 8, 2012 at 11:42 AM

Typical repressed Haggarite. You seem to be oddly obsessed with my drivel, and a real dummy to boot.

Well thanks to people like me there is affordable health care for you to obtain help as you confront some personal issues, and then you can get legally married in an increasing number of states! Embrace the rainbow that is you my self-hating warrior friend, Obama has room for all of the newly hopeful!

tommyhawk on November 8, 2012 at 11:49 AM

They’ve in essence been rewarded for relentlessly calling Mitt Romney a heartless corporate raider and vulture capitalist, a tax-sheltering sneak thief, a greedy sycophant who may-or-may-not be a felon…

Hey Erika, it’s called telling the truth!

Romney ran away from his record at Bain as he did from his record as MA governor.

He successfully hid all but two years of his tax returns, candidly admitting that they would hurt him if exposed.

He revealed that he thinks nearly half the citizens of this country are moochers who don’t want to take responsibility for themselves, etc.

Really, I don’t understand the nature of your complaint. Romney made it EASY for the Obama campaign to define him because he was unable/unwilling to define himself.

And at the end, having seen his empty, dishonest campaign, voters concluded that the Obama campaign was right about Romney.

If Republicans wanted a shot at winning the presidency, they should have picked Huntsman.

chumpThreads on November 8, 2012 at 11:49 AM

“You missed the point fantastically” are my exact words to you, Dante. Think about it. A media source hypes a know-nothing actress without any political experience simply for being perky and liberal. Compare the words “fifth column” with the words “fourth estate” and my point to you will no longer be missed.

joeeddie on November 8, 2012 at 10:44 AM

So I guess the answer to my question that I asked you (and which you didn’t answer) is yes, you believe the only people who should run for office are career politicians.

Oh my!

My response to you answered your question.

But you must have been distracted by the pretty, perky liberal being touted for a Senate seat. I encourage any American to run for any office if they are so inclined. I encourage any self respecting newspaper to tell me GOOD reasons to vote for or against said candidate.

Maybe if I post a link to a nude picture of Ashley Judd, posed as Marilyn Monroe, it will be more clear to you? That was the only qualification not specifically listed in the newspaper this morning. I think they left that part out because of some law about nudity in family publications.

joeeddie on November 8, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Revenge won and Love of Country lost. “America” is just a place now…a nice place, but just a place. I’m with Miller….I’ll ride it out and make my own joy but will always mourn the lost possibilities of the America that died on Tuesday. What a shame.

redwhiteblue on November 8, 2012 at 11:52 AM

Make every worker in America a government employee. Presto Bango! No more unemployment.

Bishop on November 8, 2012 at 9:30 AM

I love it. They can divide us into numbered districts based on race/class or whatever they deem necessary to streamline the operation.

RepubChica on November 8, 2012 at 9:35 AM

And, no worrying about any sort of (old-fashioned) ‘meritocracy’, either. Good job – bad job; no difference. Hang on long enough and float to the top. Delays, inefficiency, who cares? It’s all the same.
Just show up, sing a little hymn to lil barry, pick up that paycheck and head back to the couch for The View.

Unemployment = zero%

Solaratov on November 8, 2012 at 11:54 AM

1 year from now you should come back here and tell me how good things have become in America because Barky hired a million new government employees.

We can look at graphs, spreadsheets, tables, fun things like that; I’ll bring some hard cider and we can make a day of it.

Bishop on November 8, 2012 at 9:26 AM

I really think that people like this do not realise that it takes the taxes from 3-4 private sector employees to pay each government employee’s salary for one year.

As the number of private employees drops, it’s obvious what happens to the funding source.

right of the dial on November 8, 2012 at 11:55 AM

If Hot Air does not rid itself of the cesspool dwellers it is going to die. I never thought that I would see the day that this blog would allow commenters to call the Hot Air bloggers names and be able to stay here. It is time to clean house. Yeah, good times.

d1carter on November 8, 2012 at 11:01 AM

I agree.

Alana on November 8, 2012 at 11:55 AM

I have no interest in being lectured to by liberal obama worshippers on this site. So Hot Air, if you do not start cleaning house I will go elsewhere.

Jack_Burton on November 8, 2012 at 11:56 AM

Typical repressed Haggarite. You seem to be oddly obsessed with my drivel, and a real dummy to boot.

Well thanks to people like me there is affordable health care for you to obtain help as you confront some personal issues, and then you can get legally married in an increasing number of states! Embrace the rainbow that is you my self-hating warrior friend, Obama has room for all of the newly hopeful!

tommyhawk on November 8, 2012 at 11:49 AM

Ahh the ball sucking deviate attempts to turn it around on me. How cute, and so typical of libtards.

Poor thing…you really are one of the dumbest trolls at hot air.

Obsessed, not even close. Just laughing my arse off at your stupidy…absolutely! Ooops..I said arse..don’t get your hopes up!!!

And oops..thanks to people like you..healthcare costs are going thru the roof and quality of care will be going down. Another epic failure of your prezzy. Good thing I can afford my own healthcare and don’t need others to pay for it.

HumpBot Salvation on November 8, 2012 at 11:57 AM

If Republicans wanted a shot at winning the presidency, they should have picked Huntsman.

chumpThreads on November 8, 2012 at 11:49 AM

Yea, Joel would have done great.

VegasRick on November 8, 2012 at 11:57 AM

chumpThreads on November 8, 2012 at 11:49 AM

Still telling lies, chumpy. What else would we expect from you filthy leftists?
You clowns would rather climb a tree and tell a lie than stand on the ground and tell the truth.
Leftists are trash.

Solaratov on November 8, 2012 at 11:58 AM

I also believe there was massive voter fraud. Hey, the dems got away with it in 2008, why not amp the process up in 2012?

I totally agree with you. I think Romney’s missing McCain voters were turned into Obama voters through touch screen switching.

astonerii on November 8, 2012 at 10:41 AM

Yes, fraud was created in 2008 and I believe again this year.

The Vote totals and even how the Networks reported them was strange. Calling races way too early. Something went on in Ohio. This is a very long article and I’ve read it all. It’s about the S.O.S. and software changes in the Voting machines.
http://www.salon.com/2012/11/05/ohio_republicans_sneak_risky_software_onto_voting_machines/

bluefox on November 8, 2012 at 12:02 PM

d1carter on November 8, 2012 at 11:01 AM

HA is pretty much dominated by trolls. Sometimes it can be hard to find a thread that hasn’t been jacked by at least one, and usually more than one, sometimes three or more.

I guess the PTB like and want it that way.

farsighted on November 8, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Dave Rywall on November 8, 2012 at 9:22 AM

You didn’t leave Canada because of Harpers majority did you?

Pretty expensive protest Dave. And now you must be thinking of going back now that Justin, son of (pick a Rolling Stone) is running for the Liberal leadership. Rock Star looks and his mothers brain. You must be excited by that Dave. Heh!

BL@KBIRD on November 8, 2012 at 11:31 AM

I have suffered through the fiscal incompetence of Left governments at least 6 times in three different countries. The latest is the Liberal government in Ontario. Every time it happens the pattern is totally predictable. Occasionally,the miraculous happens and a left leaning government cleans up the mess – witness the Liberals in Canada in the 1990s

What becomes difficult in a ‘social’ country like Canada is building wealth as taxes make it difficult to accumulate capital and periodic inflation erodes its value. This does not mean it is impossible, just very very difficult and grinding. More real is that no one gets very rich and few people suffer the health or physical problems of deep poverty – it’s a kind of middling life, where by and large politics are boring and only marginally corrupt.

Doubtless we will inflict Trudeau II on ourselves at some point!! Somehow people will survive.

kirkbride on November 8, 2012 at 12:07 PM

UNBELIEVABLE!

Key West Reader on November 8, 2012 at 9:22 AM

I’ve no doubt that the democrats disenfranchised many military personel–they always do.

But, the link you provided is to a “funny” web site. (The story, as written, was actually very credible, so I’m not sure what they find so funny about suppression of military votes.)

Glad you’re doing better.

RedCrow on November 8, 2012 at 12:07 PM

redwhiteblue on November 8, 2012 at 11:52 AM

I hear your despair.

Read my post

Bruno Strozek on November 8, 2012 at 11:29 AM

I would like to know your thoughts.

Bruno Strozek on November 8, 2012 at 12:07 PM

tommyhawk on November 8, 2012 at 11:38 AM

You make the biggest fool indignant with that comment.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2012 at 12:08 PM

We have got to start hitting the media for their three to one promotion of the liberal view. If we, the public, don’t demand equal time then we aren’t going to get it.

Cindy Munford on November 8, 2012 at 10:48 AM

I’m not giving any “alphabet” networks any time on my TV. Fox News is on probation, although I haven’t turned them on since Election night. I haven’t seemed to miss them at all!!

Hallmark is starting their Christmas programs this Friday:-)

bluefox on November 8, 2012 at 12:08 PM

I’ve never seen so many people (libs) spend so much time in places they hate. What is that? I don’t go to Kos, HuffPo, etc. because they’re just unpleasant (with rants like these commonplace). Why is it these people feel the need to come here?

CycloneCDB on November 8, 2012 at 11:01 AM

Because they’re degenerates who derive some sort of sick, deviant sexual satisfaction from acting boorish to their betters.

Solaratov on November 8, 2012 at 12:09 PM

tommyhawk, no one is more nuts and a bigger Liar than Obama and you. You will see the consequences soon enough.

the 25% moocher/25% enabler democrat vote.

CycloneCDB on November 8, 2012 at 11:09 AM

No, the looters are just 1% of them. The rest are the uneducated, downtrodden, kept in the dark/misery moochers. They keep them in that state to buy their votes. Leftists are never truly liberal/proressive. They just stole the terms.

The 1% live like the Obamas do. Staver them. The do the redistributing, aka using your taxes to buy votes, no more. The don’t give a damn about the “poor” and they hate the middle class with a purple passion. The love the rich, no matter what they say. They love the life-style and the power. Wall Street finances them and the bankers do too.

Schadenfreude on November 8, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Like you he was a delusional typist who abused the government sponsored privilege of the internet.

tommyhawk on November 8, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Look at what he just said.

Alana on November 8, 2012 at 12:22 PM

I have a coworker (actually the lead security officer) where I work who, when I said that his guy won (when I got to work Tuesday night), responded “good, now the rich can pay their fair share.”

This guy HATES Romney with a passion. He has nothing nice to say about him. But the thing is, he can’t actually verbalize his hate except as something abstract. If you try to pin him down to what he hates about Romney in particular, or Republicans in general, he falls back to claiming that both sides are cheaters and liars. He really doesn’t have a clue. Press him any further on why he then supports Democrats, he just says he doesn’t want to talk about it.

But he votes Democrat. Not because he knows anything about them. He just wants to make sure “the rich pay their share.”

He’s a no information voter. He “knows” vague generalities that he’s picked up from TV, but nothing specific.

It’s kind of scary. He has his prejudices and doesn’t want them questioned. He doesn’t want to think, at all.

Kraken on November 8, 2012 at 8:58 AM

^^^ This. I know so many of these people that it makes me sick. I will no longer associate with them. They are evil, selfish and stupid. I know that only God is supposed to judge and when I reflect and look back on this I’ll ask for forgiveness, but I hope they all burn in Hell.

njrob on November 8, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Hey the baby is back.

Nobody is looking to that hag for answers since everybody already knows why you lost the election.

You guys just can’t burst out of your bizarro world bubble.

You let the tea party f*ck you in the primaries and then you let your own arrogance and incompetence f*ck you in the POTUS campaign.

If you’re not willing to learn from your mistakes, then by all means wallow in the mud of stupid and keep losing.

Now say some crap about not winning doesn’t matter since you have a majority in congress.

Dave Rywall on November 8, 2012 at 9:09 AM

Everyone, report Drywall for his vulgarities. He’s finally crossed the line.

njrob on November 8, 2012 at 12:28 PM

It didn’t dawn on me until yesterday that my life so far: staying in school, having a decent job (not a super high paying job, but one that allows me a decent living as long as I live within my means), not having a bunch of babies out of wedlock and paying my taxes basically makes me a chump. How wrong I’ve been!

RadioAngel on November 8, 2012 at 10:36 AM

This is what Dennis Miller has been saying for a while, now.

To paraphrase: “If you’re making 45, $50,000, and you’re busting your hump…you’re better off getting on the government dole. Enjoy your life.”

RedCrow on November 8, 2012 at 12:35 PM

Lies, fairy tales and fallacies. I was required to show ID in a state that voted for Obama.

libfreeordie on November 8, 2012 at 9:23 AM

Wrong. Some states require ID (like CT, mentioned by another lib) but not PHOTO ID.

Obama lost all states that require Photo ID.

The Rogue Tomato on November 8, 2012 at 12:41 PM

Liberalism will collapse forever, Bill? Do you really think so?

disa on November 8, 2012 at 12:41 PM

P.S. Florida requests, but does not REQUIRE a photo ID.

The Rogue Tomato on November 8, 2012 at 12:42 PM

HA is pretty much dominated by trolls. Sometimes it can be hard to find a thread that hasn’t been jacked by at least one, and usually more than one, sometimes three or more.

I guess the PTB like and want it that way.

farsighted on November 8, 2012 at 12:05 PM

I left Townhall a few years ago due to this very thing. Evidently HA is abiding by TH’s guidelines. Sad.

I would think many of these vulgar Trolls have already been banned by decent sites.

bluefox on November 8, 2012 at 12:43 PM

I have suffered through the fiscal incompetence of Left governments at least 6 times in three different countries. The latest is the Liberal government in Ontario. Every time it happens the pattern is totally predictable. Occasionally,the miraculous happens and a left leaning government cleans up the mess – witness the Liberals in Canada in the 1990s

What becomes difficult in a ‘social’ country like Canada is building wealth as taxes make it difficult to accumulate capital and periodic inflation erodes its value. This does not mean it is impossible, just very very difficult and grinding. More real is that no one gets very rich and few people suffer the health or physical problems of deep poverty – it’s a kind of middling life, where by and large politics are boring and only marginally corrupt.

Doubtless we will inflict Trudeau II on ourselves at some point!! Somehow people will survive.

kirkbride on November 8, 2012 at 12:07 PM

The socialists in those other countries were not doing it quite right. Don’t worry, this time around little Bammie will get it right.

slickwillie2001 on November 8, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Everyone, report Drywall for his vulgarities. He’s finally crossed the line.

njrob on November 8, 2012 at 12:28 PM

While it might be nice to ban rude commenters, this is nothing compared to what right-wingers had to put up with on Guardian Talk (may it rest in peace).

These are our opponents, njrob – wouldn’t it be better to learn how to deal with them without descending to their level?

disa on November 8, 2012 at 12:44 PM

If Republicans wanted a shot at winning the presidency, they should have picked Huntsman.

chumpThreads on November 8, 2012 at 11:49 AM

HAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHA!!!
Thanks for the laugh of the day!

No seriously, THANKS!

ToddPA on November 8, 2012 at 12:51 PM

HumpBot Salvation on November 8, 2012 at 11:20 AM

This is true. But the shallow, simple-minded Obama followers do not understand straight talk. They are delusional. They will make any excuse for their failure of a president.

congma on November 8, 2012 at 12:52 PM

you nuts learned your lesson, I see. Good luck in 2016!

lostmotherland on November 8, 2012 at 11:09 AM

Unfortunately, you guys didn’t learn yours. Four more years of failure and no “Rockstar” Obama to run in 2016 is going to make it a cakewalk for us. But good luck with Cuomo, Biden or Hilldog!

Good Solid B-Plus on November 8, 2012 at 12:53 PM

While it might be nice to ban rude commenters, this is nothing compared to what right-wingers had to put up with on Guardian Talk (may it rest in peace).

These are our opponents, njrob – wouldn’t it be better to learn how to deal with them without descending to their level?

disa on November 8, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Unfortunately no it wouldn’t. I know “swing voters” that are impressed when someone personally insults another and thinks that if the person doesn’t respond in kind it’s because they’re conceding the point. It’s absurd I know. But these are the realities we face. I want to know if this type of language is now acceptable because I would rather tell these trolls what I really think of them than people I know in real life who have helped destroy our nation.

njrob on November 8, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Well thanks to people like me there is affordable health care for you to obtain help as you confront some personal issues, and then you can get legally married in an increasing number of states! Embrace the rainbow that is you my self-hating warrior friend, Obama has room for all of the newly hopeful!

tommyhawk on November 8, 2012 at 11:49 AM

It’s so cute that you think healthcare will be affordable just because the bill was called the “Affordable Care Act.”

Such a nice little useful idiot. If you sit on your haunches, maybe Obama will give you a biscuit!

Good Solid B-Plus on November 8, 2012 at 12:57 PM

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