First 2016 Iowa poll: Hillary 58, Biden 17, Cuomo 6
posted at 10:24 pm on November 8, 2012 by Allahpundit
C’mon, I had to post it.
According to Nate Silver, Hillary now has a 86.6392 percent chance at the nomination. (Kidding, kidding.)
The PPP poll, which was shared exclusively with POLITICO, shows Clinton taking 58 percent of the Iowa vote in a hypothetical presidential run. Vice President Joe Biden trails far behind at 17 percent, followed by New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo at 6 percent and Massachusetts Sen.-elect Elizabeth Warren at 3 percent…
If Clinton doesn’t run, Biden would jump into the lead with a less-commanding 40 percent of the vote, with Cuomo rising to 14 percent and Warren up to 9 percent. In the event that neither Clinton nor Biden runs, Cuomo draws 30 percent to Warren’s 13 percent, with 46 percent of voters unsure who they’d support…
From the list of pols PPP tested, Biden and O’Malley are viewed as most likely to run for the White House in four years.
As I recall, she led Obama by something like 70-10 in the earliest days of the 2008 primary, when he was a total unknown. She wouldn’t have to worry about that next time with Biden; he’s a joke candidate, and there’s no way a pol as generic as O’Malley is going to give Hillary trouble. The only potential threat to her if she runs (which she’s said she won’t, but whatever) is Cuomo, and there’s already plenty of angst in his camp over what she might or might not do. I think he’d be doomed if he challenged her: She’s widely popular, she has all sorts of government experience, she’s a bona fide feminist icon, and there’ll be lots of sympathy for her for having lost so narrowly last time. (Plus lots of gratitude for her having been a good soldier and served as Secretary of State.) Obama would be duty bound to endorse her after what Bill Clinton did for him this year. Who’s going to pass on the chance to crown the first woman nominee in American history in order to nominate Andrew Cuomo — who, by the way, is cultivating the same sort of center-left cred that the Clintons are known for? Realistically, if she runs, she’s the nominee.
On the GOP side, hmmmm:
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— Alex Conant (@AlexConant) November 8, 2012
Rubio and Jeb Bush will obviously be frontrunners given their outreach to Latinos and the GOP’s newfound demographic angst. I doubt they’d both run, though, and if they did, I have a hard time imagining Republicans wanting to bet their new-and-improved party on a guy named “Bush.” The other serious contender is Ryan, although as a failed VP nominee he’ll be tainted somewhat by the loss (especially in Florida, which most people thought would go Republican this time). If the long-awaited fiscal crisis finally strikes, all bets are off and his profile will soar as a potential savior. But even if it doesn’t, I hope he runs just so that I can see where his Kemp-ian instincts take him. This sounded bold, and interesting:
As part of his role, Ryan had wanted to talk about poverty, traveling to inner cities and giving speeches that laid out the Republican vision for individual empowerment. But Romney advisers refused his request to do so, until mid-October, when he gave a speech on civil society in Cleveland.
As one adviser put it, “The issues that we really test well on and win on are not the war on poverty.”
Ryan did not complain publicly. But he later had reason to.
I’d like to hear more of that, and especially more of what he has in mind to help the middle class. Right now, the GOP’s looking for a magic bullet to win back some of the Latino vote, either by making a deal on immigration reform or having a Latino nominee. Both would help, but an economic agenda aimed squarely at the middle class would help more across the board, with Latinos too. Hope Ryan figures that out soon.
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What does it even matter?
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CW on May 12, 2013 at 5:06 PM
It will be very amusing to watch how the Democrat Media tries to protect her in this mess…
Del Dolemonte on May 12, 2013 at 5:07 PM
Issa is never going to come right out and say Hillary Clinton is a target. That would be incredibly stupid. Just move it forward carefully. It will get to Hillary Clinton.
Mark1971 on May 12, 2013 at 5:08 PM
The target is the truth. Of which we are approaching. Come what may.
jake49 on May 12, 2013 at 5:09 PM
@Jazz — You have an extra “s” in your Darrel Issa :)
But I disagree that it’s understandable, at least in the sense that one would want to really know an answer to the question. The question itself is political posturing. More trying to lay “witch hunt” track.
Axe on May 12, 2013 at 5:09 PM
I forced myself to watch Meet the Press this morning, which in one segment included 2 minutes on the IRS targeting the Tea Party with the remaining 5 minutes of sexual assault in the military.
Issa’s comment was pretty innocuous. Gregory was trying to play the political angle while Issa was trying to seem fair-minded, just following the facts, etc.
crrr6 on May 12, 2013 at 5:10 PM
Her fat ass would be a huge target.
Corporal Tunnel on May 12, 2013 at 5:10 PM
Did Pickering’s report reach any conclusion about the talking points and blaming the video? I thought they just investigated the security preparations and the response, or lack of, on the night of the attack.
Mark1971 on May 12, 2013 at 5:10 PM
Not yet….
gophergirl on May 12, 2013 at 5:10 PM
OT- Shooting at parade in NOLA.
CW on May 12, 2013 at 5:10 PM
The media will have to choose which to back and which to blame:
Barry O! or Hillary.
Does the media throw Barry O! under the bus to save Hillary for 2016??? Or does the media not like Hillary?
albill on May 12, 2013 at 5:12 PM
“How It Looks. . .” right now seems to be very important.
TimBuk3 on May 12, 2013 at 5:13 PM
YOU LIE ISSA.
HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 5:14 PM
*I meant Darrell. Two l’s.
meh.
Axe on May 12, 2013 at 5:16 PM
Aw poor HAL feeling the heat. This is like Chocolate. Delicious.
CW on May 12, 2013 at 5:18 PM
What does it matter?
Limerick on May 12, 2013 at 5:19 PM
So, why doesn’t Obama release all of the communications about the talking points if they’ll exculpate himself and the Hildabeast? Doesn’t sound like you’re too confident in the integrity of your elected leaders.
crrr6 on May 12, 2013 at 5:19 PM
She won’t need any “protection”. Come on, who do you guys have on deck against her? Amnesty Marco? Former Green Card Holder Cruz? Both dont have a chance and you know it.
HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 5:20 PM
AND HILLARY KILLS.
But then, that’s how you Lefties prefer to play it …
ShainS on May 12, 2013 at 5:22 PM
She is a “high value collateral”.
BDavis on May 12, 2013 at 5:23 PM
What else is new?
Might be a good night to listen to the NOLA Police scanner, as there is going to be a huge rap concert there tonight at the Howlin’ Wolf club. It’s a reunion of rap artists who recorded for New Orleans’ Big Boy Records during the heyday of New Orleans Rap, which was also the heyday of violence down there.
Del Dolemonte on May 12, 2013 at 5:23 PM
HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 5:20 PM
What’s left of Hillary’s political career was drug thru the streets of Benghazi with the Ambassador she failed to protect. She’s done.
But PLEASE nominate her.
Say hello to uppereastside for us.
HumpBot Salvation on May 12, 2013 at 5:23 PM
She should be a target and so should Zero.
dogsoldier on May 12, 2013 at 5:24 PM
I will not be amused. I will probably be very upset at the blatant lying and a$$ covering that will inevitably come out of this.
Vince on May 12, 2013 at 5:24 PM
Damnit, when will this crap stop! What ever happened to following the evidence, no matter where it might lead? What the hell is this, announcing who is and is not a “target” of an investigation while the investigation is underway?
Will you spineless fools stop reacting to every criticism and negotiating with yourself? This is an investigation. Who announces immunity deals in advance? Only in Washington. What, Daniel, do you think Hillary or Barack are going to “like” you now?
Can somebody get a professional prosecutor in the room to handle this? It’s a joke. It only tells us how bad this scandal is, that they’ve gotten this far with the play-time “questioning” they’ve conducted.
IndieDogg on May 12, 2013 at 5:25 PM
A little upset are we?
gophergirl on May 12, 2013 at 5:25 PM
No need to. Why waste his time satisfying some tea party frauds whose opinions are irrelevant to him anyway?
HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 5:26 PM
Not a target, per se, but a “person of interest” as criminal investigations go. Or, for the more rational among us, a formal suspect who we all know is as guilty as sin, as dumb as the day is long, and as inept as Barky (which is no mean feat).
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 12, 2013 at 5:26 PM
Poor HAL….. the fear can be smelled all the way over here in Ohio.
CW on May 12, 2013 at 5:26 PM
You seem to forget that the first time she testified about Benghazi, she was not under oath.
She will be under oath this time. And no doubt will plead her 5th Amendment rights repeatedly.
That is when your Democrat Media will start to protect her.
PS, weren’t you the Low-IQ O’bama Voter who was claiming that Hicks, the Benghazi whistleblower, was a “Republican Hack”? Turns out he voted for Hillary in the 2008 primary, and then voted for Dear Leader that fall and again last November.
Del Dolemonte on May 12, 2013 at 5:27 PM
If he would have answered yes – that would have taken the focus off the hearings. It would have also given the MSM the green light to pass this off as a GOP witch hunt.
We have to be patient and let this play out. Finally this is getting some legs. Let’s not cut our nose off despite our face.
gophergirl on May 12, 2013 at 5:28 PM
at this point, What Difference Does It Make!!!?!?!?!?
***crabby faced screech***
All that work, the decades scheming, to put herself in a position to become president and for it to end this way— so sad, so so sad… :(
BoxHead1 on May 12, 2013 at 5:28 PM
Why should I? Once again where is that pol that shows Amnesty Marco or Green Card Cruz is now leading Hilary in a 2016 head to head matchup?
HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 5:28 PM
HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 5:20 PM
Hillary was “inevitable” in 2008, spent wicked amounts of cash on consultants, and didn’t even end up with the VP nomination, which went to crazy Uncle Joe.
Even Bill thinks Hillary’s a hopeless case. Imagine what she’ll be like in 2016, when her campaign song will be a modified version of the Beatles’ song, now called “When I’m 69.”
Attila (Pillage Idiot) on May 12, 2013 at 5:28 PM
ROFLMAO!
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 12, 2013 at 5:29 PM
and why the hell not ?
burrata on May 12, 2013 at 5:29 PM
Clinton won’t be nominated by the dems.
Vince on May 12, 2013 at 5:29 PM
Funny question. Weird how quiet you became when you asked where the poll was about Americans and Benghazi and I posted some scary shit for you Eh? Laughable.
QUit sweating you’re stinking up your mom’s house.
CW on May 12, 2013 at 5:31 PM
Issa had an affair with his biographer?
Kenosha Kid on May 12, 2013 at 5:31 PM
So, you’re admitting that O’bama’s releasing those communications will satisfy those “tea party frauds”? The only thing that would satisfy them is evidence damning to O and Hill.
You really should rub your two brain cells together before you type.
Would you support, or would you oppose, Dear Leader releasing those communications if they were legally subpoenaed?
(Starts Sundial #2)
Del Dolemonte on May 12, 2013 at 5:31 PM
Pretty sure no one on our side has the death of 4 Americans hanging over their heads.
I’ll gladly take the Clinton matchup. In fact I hope she’s nominated.
gophergirl on May 12, 2013 at 5:31 PM
because it’s not about Hussein,
it’s about the assasination of 4 Americans by this government .
burrata on May 12, 2013 at 5:32 PM
The gop leadershiphas NO BRAINS!!!!!!
…..or……they are accomplices to the destruction of this country!!!
Pelosi would have already impeached Bush!!!
PappyD61 on May 12, 2013 at 5:32 PM
Why wouldn’t he? He promised to have the most transparent administration ever. But then again, he told Ambassador Stevens he’d have his back.
One thing about Obama. He not only lies about the big things…he lies about the little things. Only the brain-dead believe anything that Obama says.
HumpBot Salvation on May 12, 2013 at 5:32 PM
The truth is the target. It doesn’t much matter if Hillary is or isn’t at this point. But she is on the radar. Everything hinges on the testimony of all the whistleblowers, to hear their stories and see what gets corroborated.
I don’t believe this Benghazi mess doesn’t reach to the very top of the Administration, but time will tell as the investigation goes on. It has really only started, after months of stonewalling.
Liam on May 12, 2013 at 5:33 PM
And I snuck into Texas to vote for Cruz.
HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 5:33 PM
If she even runs a Dem candidate will use that screeching ‘what does it matter’ video and defeat her. She is not a good leader and not very professional. Say just what accomplishments does she have? And what were her qualifications anyway?
CW on May 12, 2013 at 5:33 PM
Thanks yet again for admitting that the 4 dead people mean nothing to you-all you care about is Hillary becoming the second-least “qualified” pResident in history in 2016.
A+
Del Dolemonte on May 12, 2013 at 5:34 PM
+1000
gophergirl on May 12, 2013 at 5:34 PM
I’d expect the same ‘timely’ response.
CW on May 12, 2013 at 5:34 PM
Hang on to that belief ok.
HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 5:34 PM
Have you ever had a positive post?
Vince on May 12, 2013 at 5:34 PM
I’m not sure why they would want her anyway. She’s pretty obviously all hat and no cattle. She’s incompetent as a leader, unethical generally, but not even good at that . . . Her presidency is some sort of ephemeral, leftist-feminist goal, and not much more.
Axe on May 12, 2013 at 5:34 PM
Thanks for admitting that you were.
A+
Del Dolemonte on May 12, 2013 at 5:35 PM
Besides, she’s shown tremendous courage before when under real fire at the Tuzla airport in Bosnia.
whatcat on May 12, 2013 at 5:37 PM
BTW, who cares about 2016? To many things are coming out now that will kill the dems chances in 2014.
Vince on May 12, 2013 at 5:37 PM
Are you talking about Pol Pot or a poll?
They can have O and Hillary by the short and nasties if they play this right then go for the jugular.
docflash on May 12, 2013 at 5:37 PM
I’ve been asking Libs since 1999 what her “qualifications” were to be the Junior Senator from New York.
That was in the last century, and yet still not 1 Leftist has even dared to answer my simple question. Because they all know that they cannot.
Del Dolemonte on May 12, 2013 at 5:38 PM
Not even after she pre-empts Hussein and comes out of the closet first ?
C’mon, the first lezbeeaan President …..who wouldn’t want that ?
Plus she has combat experience, is a mean drunk and has killed a few good men and women in her journey so far. And she is a congenital liar .
She is a perfect Democrat :O
burrata on May 12, 2013 at 5:38 PM
Yea but your side has the blood of thousands of American soldiers on their hands. Remember “they will welcome us as liberators”? How well did that turn out?
HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 5:38 PM
Not “belief” about what happened to her in 2008. Fact.
Still waiting for you to tell us what made her qualified to be the Junior US Senator from New York.
(Goes out to Sundial Farm and starts Sundial #3).
Del Dolemonte on May 12, 2013 at 5:40 PM
aaaannnnddddd.. we’re back to Bush, Cheney and Halliburton !!!
burrata on May 12, 2013 at 5:40 PM
The death of thousands of American Soldiers don’t really mean anything to your side either so what is your point?
HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 5:40 PM
What an idiot. You don’t think someone else will play hardball with Hillary JUST LIKE Obama did? You’re truly dumber than you appear.
CW on May 12, 2013 at 5:41 PM
So you admit it. Thanks for letting us know.
You’re flailing again.
CW on May 12, 2013 at 5:42 PM
Considering her Benghazi perjur…er…testimony, I think the more appropriate Beatles campaign song line would be from “Strawberry Fields Forever”:
“It doesn’t matter much to me”.
whatcat on May 12, 2013 at 5:42 PM
In the 8 years (Democrat) Bill Clinton was our Commander in Chief, more members of the US military died in non combat than have died in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan combined. Your side has their blood on their hands.
See, 2 can play your silly game.
Z-
Del Dolemonte on May 12, 2013 at 5:42 PM
Don’t forget Soros owns a big stake in Halliburton.
docflash on May 12, 2013 at 5:43 PM
You have no standing to speak on behalf of our brave armed forces members. Even though the purple fingers did welcome us as liberators, you have no voice in this because you and your kind are the cause of roadblocks to peace and liberation of the oppressed.
Vince on May 12, 2013 at 5:43 PM
On like your side who constantly shoves candidates their base hates down their throats, my side does the exact opposite.
HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 5:43 PM
My 5:42 PM post sends you packing. Thanks for playing!
Del Dolemonte on May 12, 2013 at 5:43 PM
Our side?
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Whose side?
CW on May 12, 2013 at 5:44 PM
So what your side is telling you to believe is that because the other side killed thousands of American soldiers , Hussein should get that opportunity too ? Is this all about body count for your side ? Hussein wants to surpass Bush on that statistic ?
How morbid , but I’m not surprised one bit .
burrata on May 12, 2013 at 5:45 PM
HAL’s diverting again…..
ahhhh delicious.
CW on May 12, 2013 at 5:45 PM
Interesting – and highly uncommon – decision by NBC to have Amb. Pickering right there next to Issa during his interview. A weakly transparent attempt at intimidation.
aquaviva on May 12, 2013 at 5:45 PM
Clinton won’t be nominated by the dems.
Vince on May 12, 2013 at 5:29 PM
Unlike your side who constantly shoves candidates their base hates down their throats, my side does the exact opposite.
HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 5:43 PM
HotAirLib on May 12, 2013 at 5:45 PM
He likely calls Vietnam ‘Nixon’s War’.
Liam on May 12, 2013 at 5:46 PM
Good thing no Dems voted to fun the Iraq war. Or if they did, it’s because they were lied to. RIght? Luckily conditions in Iraq are much improved since Zero pulled the troops, to concentrate on the “good war” in Afghanistan. ALl in all a huge success. Give the man a Peace Prize.
Kenosha Kid on May 12, 2013 at 5:46 PM
http://www.flyingsnail.com/Dahbud/voted4war.html
Your side too, b!tch. Blood on all their hands. And, your senate troll boy, Harry Reid, had no problem saying, as our men and women fought in the field, that “This war is lost”. Shameful pos crapweasel. That’s what your side is full of, sh!tbag.
AllahsNippleHair on May 12, 2013 at 5:46 PM
Poor HAL. Desperation. Sweeeeeeet.
CW on May 12, 2013 at 5:46 PM
Really? Your Senate Majority Leader said the US had lost the Iraq War while it was still being fought. Your DNC Chairman at the time of the original 9/11 accused Bush of letting it happen. And your Academy-Award winning filmmaker got that award for claiming the same thing.
You really need 2 shovels, Kid. One for each hand.
Del Dolemonte on May 12, 2013 at 5:47 PM
Poor HAL wants to talk about ANYTHING but Benghazi.
CW on May 12, 2013 at 5:47 PM
Sssshhhhh….** lowers voice really low **
they don’t tell this to the trolls
:O
burrata on May 12, 2013 at 5:47 PM
I thought he was referring to The One there.
70% of U.S. Military Fatalities in 11-Year Afghan War Have Occurred on Obama’s Watch
whatcat on May 12, 2013 at 5:47 PM
Rudy Guiliani to the white courtesy phone, please.
katy the mean old lady on May 12, 2013 at 5:48 PM
Whaaaat? Probably a Harvard grad.
Vince on May 12, 2013 at 5:48 PM
IRS & Benghazi: Not about Right v Left, but Right v Wrong.
Resist We Much on May 12, 2013 at 5:49 PM
Jay Carney-Baghdad Bob Panic Syndrome has set in amongst the left.
whatcat on May 12, 2013 at 5:50 PM
What exactly id Lyndon Johnson mean when he exhorted soldiers to “Nail the coonskin to the wall” in Vietnam?
Kenosha Kid on May 12, 2013 at 5:50 PM
This HAL person is really getting tiresome. Every single thread he brings up the same tired old tropes. Iraq, Green Card, Boooosh…blah blah blah. Very similar to “non”partisan. Maybe we should set them up for a date, they both are in love with the same person. Or maybe a cage match with them and Reggie to see who wins the right to climb up Oblowme’s azz.
BeachBum on May 12, 2013 at 5:51 PM
Bloody Hillary.
CW on May 12, 2013 at 5:51 PM
Listen closely. The sound of the GOP already ceding the 2016 presidential election.
Yeah. Yeah. I know. The target is the truth. Whatever. But you don’t have to think this through very far to realize how horrified the GOP is to discover what it’s holding here, and how very much it would like all of this to quietly go away. They will betray us.
bofh on May 12, 2013 at 5:51 PM
A vigorous five mile walk will do more good for an unhappy, but otherwise healthy adult than all the medicine and psychology in the world. – Paul Dudley White
RickB on May 12, 2013 at 5:51 PM
Soros bought $61 million worth of Halliburton in either 2006 or 2007.
They also don’t tell the trolls about how Bill Clinton gave Halliburton no-bid contracts, and that O’bama Himself was also about to give Halli one when we were leaving Iraq. For some reason that one never happened.
And they totally ignore the decades-long marriage between Democrat President Lyndon Johnson and Halliburton subsidiary KBR.
Del Dolemonte on May 12, 2013 at 5:52 PM
Oh no doubt. They’ve come to the realization that Benghazi has legs and they can no longer pretend it is not an issue.
CW on May 12, 2013 at 5:52 PM
The more details come out about this Administration’s culpability in this Muslim Terrorist Attack, the more out of control our Trolls will get.
kingsjester on May 12, 2013 at 5:53 PM
The doo-doo’s gonna hit the fan big time when the gun running aspects of Benghazi come out.
petefrt on May 12, 2013 at 5:53 PM
Let’s not forget the two people with the most to gain from the demise of Hil: Joke Biden and John F’n Kerry.
They both want to be president desperately, and hearing Hil referred to as ‘inevitable’ in 2016 has to be as grating as listening to Susan Collins.
If either of them can slide a knife into Hil’s back with plausible deniability, they just may take that opportunity.
slickwillie2001 on May 12, 2013 at 5:53 PM
What dimwit HAL doesn’t get is that Hillary lost partially due to her support of the war. What an idiot.
CW on May 12, 2013 at 5:53 PM
Boom: Benghazi mom wishes Hillary Clinton a happy Mother’s Day; ‘She has her child; I don’t have mine’
whatcat on May 12, 2013 at 5:53 PM
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