The status-quo endorsement?

posted at 8:41 am on November 7, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

In my previous post, I offered some thoughts about the wrong assumptions conservatives (like myself) made about the electorate and the lessons of 2008 and 2010. What message does 2012 give us?  Other than the fact of realignment, it’s almost impossible to say, thanks to the very unusual status-quo result of the of election.

Having an incumbent President win an election is hardly surprising in and of itself.  Incumbent Presidents rarely lose when running in a second election; in my lifetime, only Jimmy Carter and George H. W. Bush managed it.  (Gerald Ford lost his first presidential election.)  Before that, you have to go to Herbert Hoover, who lost his bid thanks to the obvious implications of a dire financial crisis.

But consider that for a moment when mulling over Obama’s win.  We’ve come out of an economic crisis to three years of economic stagnation.  In poll after poll, voters insisted that the US was heading in the wrong direction.  The early exit polls showed that only 25% of voters thought they were doing better than four years earlier.  And yet, not only did these voters re-elect Obama (again, not unusual for an incumbent), but they also left the House and Senate in the hands of the same leadership as before the election.  In the end, as Jim Geraghty tweeted, we spent somewhere north of two billions dollars just to get Indiana and North Carolina to flip.

Now, House races tend to be local, and Senate races only a little less so.  It may be difficult to draw national conclusions from the outcomes of individual races.  But if the realignment gave Democrats a powerful voice in the presidential contest, it didn’t do them all that much good in undoing the 2010 midterm election results.  This looks like a pretty intriguing endorsement of a status quo that few voters admit liking.

This holds some opportunity for both parties to reset their approach and try again after the last two years of brinksmanship and rancor.  Voters are unhappy with the status quo, but don’t trust either party with total control of the federal government again.  It’s possible that they want to see government work properly again, with the proper tension and checks between branches of government and party agendas, but for those checks to produce actual solutions and not ulimatums and diktats.  Over the next two years, Democrats and Republicans have another chance to get back to business instead of conducting never-ending campaigns, and the first party to grasp this might be able to set the agenda.

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Interesting take from Erick Erickson:
http://www.redstate.com/2012/11/07/status-quo-ante/

avagreen on November 7, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Seriously, McCain has a few million more votes than Romney that would/could have won it for Romney. HOW IN THE HELL?!?! I swear it seemed people were more fired up this time, bigger crowds, more support….I dont understand it. Where were our voters?

bucsox79 on November 7, 2012 at 8:44 AM

Forgive me I just logged on and haven’t read through all the comments, so perhaps somebody has said this already: Anybody talking about the F-word? Fraud? I, frankly, do not see how this happened otherwise.

winfield on November 7, 2012 at 12:05 PM

I think the country is screwed. We’re headed towards 4 more years of economic stagnation, probably more. We’ve tipped from a country where hard work is appreciated to an entitlement state. I think for me personally, even though it goes against my grain, the trick is going to be to figure out how to get on that gravy train.

I’ve decided that since I will likely be paying more in taxes and the cost of goods keeps going up, I’ll really curtail spending. Although I dearly want to support merchants in my commumity, the majority here voted to support the entitlement environment. Tough shit. It’s only too late that people learn how things really work.

I can’t believe how stupid people are and I have NO HOPE that things in Washington will change from our current gridlock.

COgirl on November 7, 2012 at 12:11 PM

The biggest error last night was predicting a turnout that was larger than it was. The voting electorate was depressed. Had these people been forced to vote, it would have been a Romney victory.

The question we ask ourselves is not “how do we get more minorities” or “what swing state area should we have focused on”, but how to remotivate the independents who voted with their posteriors by staying home and not voting? What do they want in a candidate?

Nethicus on November 7, 2012 at 12:12 PM

RUSH:

“We’ve lost the country”

“We are outnumbered”

“It’s hard to beat Santa Claus”

This is a sad sad day….even Rush is conceding

LordMaximus on November 7, 2012 at 12:21 PM

need to kick Boehner out on his compromising ass

ultracon on November 7, 2012 at 12:25 PM

Next up is going to be the complete funding of abortion by the federal government. Women will not be able to afford it given the current and future state of our economy.

weaselyone on November 7, 2012 at 12:26 PM

It’s not about us, it’s about them. When we get to the point where we will lie, cheat and steal to win an election that’s when we will prevail (of course we will never do that). When we have the media on our side to cover up our mistakes, to sugar coat and lie about our policies and act as just another branch of our party, we will win. We don’t need to worry about OUR ethics, we just need to find a way to overcome the extreme bias in the media. Until then, no matter who we put forth as a candidate, the liberal media will just crucify them and twist everything they say. We need an all out war (figuratively speaking) to once and for all put the mainstream press in their place. Until that happens, I don’t see much hope for our party.

bandutski on November 7, 2012 at 12:26 PM

Did we give up when the Germans attacked Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

Look people, I’m as sad as anyone. At these times what discourages me the most is usually not that such a bad candidate was chosen, but that my fellow Americans felt compelled to pick them. But this time I truly fear for my country.

But if our grandparents didn’t give up when they saw their country attacked unprovoked, our Pacific Fleet seriously wounded and watched most of Europe fall, and if our parents didn’t give up with the full force of the Soviet Union marshaled against them, for much of that time in fear of eminent nuclear attack, then I’m not giving up because 47% of my fellow citizens are more concerned about their government retirement or getting a welfare check then they are about whether or not our economy collapses or our enemies get nuclear weapons.

Over the next few weeks we’re going to be bombarded with liberals saying that the GOP is dead and “We’re all Socialists Now.” We’re going to see article after article from conservatives blaming everyone but themselves for this loss. Ya know how I know this 100% for certain? Because that’s what we saw in 2006 & 2008. And that got me thinking….

2000 GOP win — G.W.Bush ran against the VP of an extremely popular president, and won.
2002 GOP win — Republicans gained 2 Senate seats and 8 House seats, in a mid-term election which is unusual.
2004 GOP win — G.W.Bush reelected.
2006 DNC win — Dems ran against Bush – not on their ideas or against his, but on him as a man counting on American’s war fatigue and general anger at Bush.
2008 DNC win — Dems ran the same campaign they had in 2006, they didn’t run against (our admittedly weak candidate) McCain or his ideas, they ran against Bush and “for” blackness.
2010 GOP win — Republicans take seats in the Senate and win control of the House.
2012 DNC win — Last night. Blame it on the rain, or the 47% or Romney, or whatever. We lost, by less than we did in 2008.

To me that looks like it’s 3 for 3 since 2000. And, I believe, the whole time we’ve been increasing our governorships. I don’t see that as a “shift” at all. I see that as pretty normal.

Have we already forgotten that before 1994 Republicans had only held the House for four years since 1932? Or that we had Democrat presidents for most of the ’60s, half of the ’80s and almost all of the ’90s?

The Union will survive. God is still on His throne. We will lick our wounds, remember that America isn’t just a plot of earth, or a group of people, or even for a way of life — it’s an idea, an idea that our forefathers didn’t give up on even against overwhelming odds.

We’ll find ways to cope with our current reality, rebuild our fleet and fight America’s enemies all the way back to Japan. Americans always do.

“Never, never, never, never give up”
–Winston Churchill

29Victor on November 7, 2012 at 12:31 PM

I’m hearing that Romney got less votes than McCain. And that if Romney had gotten as many votes as McCain, he would have won. I find this to be very odd and confounding and I’m trying to figure out and understand just how that could be possible. I saw with my own eyes the enthusiasm and the crowd sizes Romney was able to generate at his campaign events, which McCain could not. Where did those votes go? Did the McCain voters die? Is the difference in vote totals due to anti-Mormon bigotry? Were the votes nefariously removed at the polling stations? It’s mind boggling.

OxyCon on November 7, 2012 at 12:34 PM

OxyCon on November 7, 2012 at 12:34 PM
It is not mind boggling at all. Palin was on the ticket last time. There are more women in the electorate than men. I bet any money more women voted for McCain/Palin than Romney just for that reason alone.

txmomof6 on November 7, 2012 at 12:40 PM

I will never give up.

kingsjester on November 7, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Someone chided me on my comment about “voter fraud”…….This is what I’m talking about.
Federal Job Corps Vans Used to Bus Voters in Wisconsin
http://mediatrackers.org/2012/11/06/federal-job-corps-vans-used-to-bus-voters-in-wisconsin/

AND,
http://www.redstate.com/2012/11/06/gop-poll-observers-being-blocked-in-north-carolina/

avagreen on November 7, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Hey, where’s my free phone at?

Galtian on November 7, 2012 at 1:03 PM

You know this guy is so good (Obama) and is being hailed throughout the world….

Maybe he would be a great leader of the entire world?

If we were all just on a level economic playing field and EVERYONE in the world were given a “fair shot” maybe he could be President of the United States and leader of a new global government?

Why not? He’s young, a great speaker, charismatic, clearly able to embrace the teachings of the worlds great religions and he’s very telegenic.

And he’s already won the Nobel Peace Prize once. Maybe he could solve the problems in the Middle East that have vexed us for so long.

He’s a great politician/advocate for his cause.

Better than Reagan, and THAT is saying something.

PappyD61 on November 7, 2012 at 1:04 PM

I will never give up.

kingsjester on November 7, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Like your site, kingsjester. I will visit more often.

Yes…..let’s NOT give up!

avagreen on November 7, 2012 at 1:05 PM

avagreen on November 7, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Thank you.

kingsjester on November 7, 2012 at 1:08 PM

http://main.omanobserver.om/node/123570

World leaders hail Obama victory, pledge co-operation

PARIS — World leaders yesterday hailed President Barack Obama’s sweeping re-election, with allies pledging to deepen co-operation with the United States on fighting the world economic slump and maintaining security across the globe.

Congratulations poured in from across the world, including fellow UN Security Council members Britain, China, France and Russia and Obama’s ancestral home in Kenya.

Russian President Vladimir Putin sent a telegram congratulating Obama on his victory over Republican Mitt Romney.

“We hope that the positive beginnings that have taken hold in Russian-US relations on the world arena will grow in the interests of international security and stability,” Russian news agencies quoted Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov saying.

Moscow is ready to “go as far as the US administration is willing to go,” Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov was quoted as saying.

Obama will have MORE FLEXIBILITY after the election to disarm America. This is going to be awesome.

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/world/world-leaders-hail-obama-victory/story-e6frfkui-1226512676967

Elsewhere in the Middle East, Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas urged the US leader to pursue peace efforts, while Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erakat said he hoped Obama’s re-election would mean the creation of a Palestinian state in the next four years.

PappyD61 on November 7, 2012 at 1:09 PM

The status-quo gets us the Gods of the Copybook Headings.

Obama doing what he wants gets us the Gods of the Copybook Headings.

I am prepared for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.

They are harsh and fair taskmasters delivering blood and fire to all, equally, regardless of anything.

Our Nation has forgotten them.

They will not forget us nor leave us alone.

I pity those who will not see and stand prepared to help those who awaken to them when they finally do awaken. Sad what comes of this, but it is, apparently, necessary.

ajacksonian on November 7, 2012 at 1:10 PM

HOW IN THE HELL DID ROMNEY GET 2.5 MILLION FEWER VOTES THAN MCCAIN!!! Sorry for the virtual scream, but that is the question that needs to be seriously addressed today. I mean WTF!!!

Progressive Heretic on November 7, 2012 at 1:10 PM

People need to start sliding down the slope faster to see the cliff?

tomg51 on November 7, 2012 at 8:46 AM

With all due respect, the average American doesn’t care about cliffs or slopes. They don’t grasp “checks between branches” of government or “status quo”. They don’t want a leader, they want an entertainer. They want someone who hangs out with the people they wish they could hang out with; shoots hoops; wears shades; bumps knuckles. President Kardashian.

labrat on November 7, 2012 at 1:12 PM

Meanwhile……Another Conservative falls.

Mia Love….

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/11/07/matheson-bests-mia-love-in-utah-house-race/

Rep. Allen West…

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/voters-run-away-from-rep-allen-west/2012/11/07/14950f96-28f9-11e2-b4e0-346287b7e56c_blog.html

Rep. Joe Walsh from Illinois.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/rep-joe-walsh-gets-the-boot/2012/11/07/5ed482b0-2860-11e2-b4e0-346287b7e56c_blog.html

Nothing gives me greater pleasure than to herald the defeat of Rep. Joe Walsh. The strident Illinois Republican was among the most vocal members of the raucous tea party caucus swept into Congress in 2010. But the voters of 8th congressional district put an end to the madness by replacing him with Tammy Duckworth (D).

PappyD61 on November 7, 2012 at 1:16 PM

HOW IN THE HELL DID ROMNEY GET 2.5 MILLION FEWER VOTES THAN MCCAIN!!! Sorry for the virtual scream, but that is the question that needs to be seriously addressed today. I mean WTF!!!

Progressive Heretic on November 7, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Consider that in 2008 just a bit over half of those eligible to vote, voted.

By 2012 more than 1 million new voting age eligible citizens live in the Nation.

Between 2 and 3 million fewer people voted out of those eligible to vote due to age.

This Nation now has government of less than 50% support from the voting age population… no matter who wins, we have all lost.

ajacksonian on November 7, 2012 at 1:16 PM

In my previous post, I offered some thoughts about the wrong assumptions conservatives (like myself) made about the electorate and the lessons of 2008 and 2010.

Since when did you become a conservative?

Dante on November 7, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Hey, our deficit is nothing a carbon and VAT tax can’t solve! The country has chosen to be more like Europe, let’s grow a pair and go whole hog!

visions on November 7, 2012 at 1:18 PM

TEATERS RULE IN AMERICA!!

And you guys think that ANY Conservative can survive the Media?

There is NO EVIDENCE this will work. NONE.

Rubio or anyone else (and he’s a squishy Conservative).

PappyD61 on November 7, 2012 at 1:18 PM

Poor Ed, thinking that the result of the election is an “unusual status-quo” one, while endorsing and rah rahing for the status quo himself.

You had a chance to actually embrace limited government, yet you chose status quo every single time. There’s nothing unusual about a status quo result; we’ve had status quo for going on 100 years.

Dante on November 7, 2012 at 1:21 PM

The Union will survive. God is still on His throne. We will lick our wounds, remember that America isn’t just a plot of earth, or a group of people, or even for a way of life — it’s an idea, an idea that our forefathers didn’t give up on even against overwhelming odds.

We’ll find ways to cope with our current reality, rebuild our fleet and fight America’s enemies all the way back to Japan. Americans always do.

“Never, never, never, never give up”
–Winston Churchill

29Victor on November 7, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Great, I feel so much better knowing that we will preserve a Union of Socialists States Of America. Sounds very similar to the USSR. Thanks for cheering me up comrade.

bgibbs1000 on November 7, 2012 at 1:22 PM

avagreen on November 7, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Compare Romney to Scott Walker. Scott Walker took on the unions in Wisconsin and won big. Romney barely took on Barack Obama. He drew few lines in the sand, made those fungible, and did not stand on many principles. Americans wanted to assess a contrast between the candidates and got blurred lines instead. They went with the politician they knew instead of the one who was different depending on the election season, constituency, and time of day.

Thank you for that link.

Very good read.

Steveangell on November 7, 2012 at 1:27 PM

The Union will survive. God is still on His throne. We will lick our wounds, remember that America isn’t just a plot of earth, or a group of people, or even for a way of life — it’s an idea, an idea that our forefathers didn’t give up on even against overwhelming odds.

We’ll find ways to cope with our current reality, rebuild our fleet and fight America’s enemies all the way back to Japan. Americans always do.

“Never, never, never, never give up”
–Winston Churchill

29Victor on November 7, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Lincoln already saw to that with his murdering thousands of Americans, and with a campaign of terrorism and destruction.

Dante on November 7, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Nothing gives me greater pleasure than to herald the defeat of Rep. Joe Walsh. The strident Illinois Republican was among the most vocal members of the raucous tea party caucus swept into Congress in 2010. But the voters of 8th congressional district put an end to the madness by replacing him with Tammy Duckworth (D).

PappyD61 on November 7, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Don’t you love Establishment Republicans.

Harry Reid prefered over Sharon Angle.

Now this one celebrating the loss once again of the Senate.

Hey Pappy just become a Democrat as you love them so much.

Steveangell on November 7, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Next up is going to be the complete funding of abortion by the federal government. Women will not be able to afford it given the current and future state of our economy.

weaselyone on November 7, 2012 at 12:26 PM

No NEXT UP……Abortions being provided at the clinics at schools while your daughters are there to learn. Maybe they can fit it in on the lunch hour. And by the way….they won’t need to notify you even if she’s only 13.

Planned Parenthood is going to EXPLODE with growth in the next four years.

PappyD61 on November 7, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Nothing gives me greater pleasure than to herald the defeat of Rep. Joe Walsh. The strident Illinois Republican was among the most vocal members of the raucous tea party caucus swept into Congress in 2010. But the voters of 8th congressional district put an end to the madness by replacing him with Tammy Duckworth (D).

PappyD61 on November 7, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Don’t you love Establishment Republicans.

Harry Reid prefered over Sharon Angle.

Now this one celebrating the loss once again of the Senate.

Hey Pappy just become a Democrat as you love them so much.

Steveangell on November 7, 2012 at 1:30 PM

LOL. This was a quote from Jonathan Capehart that I pasted for the readers convenience. Thanks for completely missing that.

PappyD61 on November 7, 2012 at 1:39 PM

Last time Romney’s supporters stayed home. I’m wondering if some McCain supporters stayed home this time around. Maybe even Palin supporters. Last time, Palin had all the defectors from Obama that were for Hillary. This time around, I can’t see that many of them voting for Romney.

Someone didn’t show up. I think it was McCain and Puma voters.

MrX on November 7, 2012 at 1:41 PM

I truly would love to see man-in-the-street interviews with a cross-section of Obama voters who can spell out what they think will be the positive outcome of their choice. What do they expect will be better for them or for the nation and why.

onlineanalyst on November 7, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Rush has a point with the Santa Claus explanation. Too many people in this country have gotten lazy and complacent, comfortable with the status quo, and are hooked on entitlement, taking and receiving rather than offering and giving. They’re like addicts–pick your poison of drugs, alcohol, gambling, shopping–their addiction is entitlements and like all addicts often they must hit bottom and be engulfed by the black hole of darkness before they open their eyes wide enough to see the light and begin to turn themselves around. Perhaps it’s going to take nothing less than this country hitting total bottom for them to wake up and see the stupidity of their voting ways. Unfortunately, they’re taking the rest of us down with them. One way or another I know that I’ll survive bcuz I have that mindset and faith. The only other thing I can say for sure is that when someone around me complains about how bad things are, my first question to them will be how did they vote, who did they vote for, and since I’m surrounded by idiotic libturds I already know the answer so then my response will be that this is what they signed up for with their vote, I’m angry that they’ve forced it upon me and others as well who believe differently and I have no sympathy for them. I’ve noticed through the decades how people around me will complain about a president or another elected official that they voted for, yet refuse to admit that they voted for them and even more refuse to understand how the two are connected.

stukinIL4now on November 7, 2012 at 1:54 PM

29Victor on November 7, 2012 at 12:31 PM

That is beautiful and true…

mnjg on November 7, 2012 at 1:59 PM

stukinIL4now on November 7, 2012 at 1:54 PM

LOL, Rush is the status quo.

Dante on November 7, 2012 at 2:18 PM

FWIW, all the talk about “vote totals” is based on counts WITHOUT Florida.

AesopFan on November 7, 2012 at 2:20 PM

Forgive me I just logged on and haven’t read through all the comments, so perhaps somebody has said this already: Anybody talking about the F-word? Fraud? I, frankly, do not see how this happened otherwise.

winfield on November 7, 2012 at 12:05 PM

We can’t talk about fraud. That’s loony bin crap. No way that could happen. People just didn’t go out and vote, that’s why vote totals were less for Romney than McCain and allowed Obama to win the necessary swing states he needed too just barely. It’s just a coincidence. The storm suppressed all the votes and the GOP wasn’t energized anyway, today’s new history says so. Come on get with the program or else we’ll send you to re-education camp.

bgibbs1000 on November 7, 2012 at 2:32 PM

From Brebart

131 million voters cast their ballots in the 2008 election in which Barack Obama defeated John McCain by a 53% to 46% margin. Obama received 69.4 million votes, while McCain received 59.9 million.

In 2012, Obama defeated Romney by a 50% to 48% margin. Obama received 59.8 million votes, and Romney received 57.1 million votes — 2.7 million fewer than Obama in 2012, but also 2.8 million fewer than McCain in 2008.

Surprisingly, President Obama’s 2012 vote total — 59.8 million — was 100,000 less than the 59.9 million John McCain received in 2008.

And we’re suppose to believe lower turnout happened after being told all this election year that GOP turnout would be way up. This just does not make sense at all, especially considering the margins of victory. Can’t prove massive voter count fraud but it smells like it.

bgibbs1000 on November 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM

And we’re suppose to believe lower turnout happened after being told all this election year that GOP turnout would be way up. This just does not make sense at all, especially considering the margins of victory. Can’t prove massive voter count fraud but it smells like it.

bgibbs1000 on November 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Or maybe you’re listening to the wrong people, such as the ones who said it would be a landslide for Romney.

Dante on November 7, 2012 at 2:54 PM

29Victor on November 7, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Unfortunately it’s easy to band together against in external enemy… it’s far harder against a domestic enemy, especially when it includes friends and family.

dominigan on November 7, 2012 at 3:04 PM

131 million voters cast their ballots in the 2008 election in which Barack Obama defeated John McCain by a 53% to 46% margin. Obama received 69.4 million votes, while McCain received 59.9 million.

In 2012, Obama defeated Romney by a 50% to 48% margin. Obama received 59.8 million votes, and Romney received 57.1 million votes — 2.7 million fewer than Obama in 2012, but also 2.8 million fewer than McCain in 2008.

Surprisingly, President Obama’s 2012 vote total — 59.8 million — was 100,000 less than the 59.9 million John McCain received in 2008.

That is the key question mark for me too.

We know at least $2.8M 2008 GOP voters stayed home. Propably more, since I am sure Romney got some displeased 2008 Obama voters.

So what happened to those $3M? Why did they not turn out to vote?

I am sure the the positive Palin effect accounts for quite a few, but still.

Norwegian on November 7, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Or maybe you’re listening to the wrong people, such as the ones who said it would be a landslide for Romney.

Dante on November 7, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Perhaps, you may be right and if you are where does that really leave the country?

bgibbs1000 on November 7, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Perhaps, you may be right and if you are where does that really leave the country?

bgibbs1000 on November 7, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Uninformed.

But you can fix that:

Mises

The Liberty Classroom

Dante on November 7, 2012 at 3:19 PM

And we’re suppose to believe lower turnout happened after being told all this election year that GOP turnout would be way up. This just does not make sense at all, especially considering the margins of victory. Can’t prove massive voter count fraud but it smells like it.

bgibbs1000 on November 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM

The fraud was the stuff you decided to believe before the election.

lexhamfox on November 7, 2012 at 3:47 PM

I advocated that the Repubs in the House abstain from voting on the Democrat agenda going forward. Make them own it and don’t give them cover. Looks like Boehner wants to give cover and make friends all at once as he declares that the Repubs are open to new tax revenue and the parties are closer than we think to “overhauling” the tax code. Where’s my checkbook for that bridge I was offered today? /s

totherightofthem on November 7, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Oops. Screwed up the link. I’ll try again.

I advocated that the Repubs in the House abstain from voting on the Democrat agenda going forward. Make them own it and don’t give them cover. Looks like Boehner wants to give cover and make friends all at once as he declares that the Repubs are open to new tax revenue and the parties are closer than we think to “overhauling” the tax code. Where’s my checkbook for that bridge I was offered today? /s

totherightofthem on November 7, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Forgive me I just logged on and haven’t read through all the comments, so perhaps somebody has said this already: Anybody talking about the F-word? Fraud? I, frankly, do not see how this happened otherwise.

winfield on November 7, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Particularly given all the anecdotal stories about record lines, record early voting, etc.

I strongly suspect this is the real reason Romney lost. There may be others. It is very hard to defeat a sitting President when almost all of the media continue to praise him as an infallible god.

I don’t see how we can ever know.

They were showing that video of the woman that bought the lottery ticket.

Could they run video cameras at the doors of the polls? The footage could be used if questions of numbers came up or duplicate voting or voter fraud-the dead come back to life.

talkingpoints on November 7, 2012 at 7:15 PM

If you are going through hell, keep going! I would like to think last night is some sort of conservative “rope-a-dope”, in which statists will expend themselves into uselessness by 2014. At least that’s my theory, and I am clinging bitterly to it.

Mutnodjmet on November 7, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Just wanted to THANK YOU , Ed for helping push Romney down out throats…

Yes, I think it was stolen but a couple of others would have made it much harder if not impossible.

Great job. I hope they gave you your dog treats and a pat on the head.

golfmann on November 8, 2012 at 9:54 PM

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