Quotes of the day

posted at 10:52 pm on November 7, 2012 by Allahpundit

Having lost the popular vote in five of the last six presidential elections, Republicans plunged Wednesday into an intense period of self-examination, blame-setting and testy debate over whether their party needs serious change or just some minor tweaks…

“The Republican Party is exactly right on the issues,” said Terry Holt, a veteran GOP strategist with close ties to House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio. The party mainly needs to nominate candidates who can relate to average Americans better than multimillionaire Mitt Romney did, Holt said.

Some other Republicans, however, see bigger problems. The party must shed its “absolutism on issues like tax increases,” which congressional lawmakers oppose at virtually every level, said John Ullyot, a former Republican Senate aide.

“The only way the party is going to move more to the middle is when we get sick of losing,” he said.

***

Despite spending a billion dollars on the presidential contest, despite unprecedented “ground game” efforts by more outside conservative groups than ever, despite having a president with a horrid record to run against, the Republican presidential ticket looks like it garnered even fewer votes than G. W. Bush did in 2004, when something like 15 million more people now call the United States home than just eight years ago. The wonderful Bush effort then should have been a floor, not a ceiling.

Plus, the Senate results were atrocious. Bright new conservatives lost. Foot-in-mouth conservatives lost. Establishment retreads lost. Moderates lost. Way too many people lost, even in solidly “red” states. Republicans obviously are missing something.

The whole country is in for a rough, rocky, even frightening four years. Conservatives and Republicans must refuse to break key principles — but other than that, politically speaking, we need to take a little time to reassess. We’re doing something very, very wrong, or maybe many “somethings.”

***

After supporting Mitt Romney in 2008, some of you may recall, I ran off with New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie midway through Obama’s first term for precisely that reason: The near-impossibility of beating an incumbent president. Christie seemed like the kind of once-in-a-lifetime star who could pull a Reagan upset against an incumbent president.

But I was wrong. Romney was the perfect candidate, and he was the president this country needed right now. It’s less disheartening that a president who wrecked American health care, quadrupled gas prices, added $6 trillion to the national debt and gave us an 8 percent unemployment rate can squeak out re-election than that America will never have Romney as our president.

Indeed, Romney is one of the best presidential candidates the Republicans have ever fielded. Blaming the candidate may be fun, but it’s delusional and won’t help us avoid making the same mistakes in the future.

***

Jenny Beth Martin of Tea Party Patriots said Romney failed to make the kind of strong case for conservatism that would have won the election.

She described Romney as a “weak, moderate candidate hand-picked by the country club elite Republican establishment.”

“They didn’t see a clear distinction so they went with what they know,” she said of voters.

“It should have been a landslide if Romney had run as a true conservative,” said Brent Bozell of the Media Research Center.

***

Blame for this debacle is widely shared. Mitt Romney made many mistakes in this campaign. Yet with the exception of his failure to press the case against Obamacare — a failure partly explained but not excused by his own record on health care — those mistakes reflected party-wide decisions. The party hasn’t kept up with the political technologies Democrats are using. More important, Republicans from the top to the bottom of the ticket did little to make the case that conservative policies would make the broad mass of the public better off. It wasn’t a theme of the convention in Tampa, for example, or a consistent theme in Republican ads.

Most of the post-election discussion, we can predict, will dwell on the predictable demographic divides of sex, race, and age. Most of this conversation will be unproductive. Until conservatives devise a domestic agenda, and a way to sell it, that links small-government principles to attractive results, they are going to have a hard time improving their standing with women, Latinos, white men, or young people. And conservatives would be deeply unwise to count on the mere availability of charismatic young conservative officials to make up for that problem.

***

I’ve been saying for years that the GOP has run tax cuts out as a campaign plank–indeed, they’re now over the cliff and about to plunge while Roadrunner chortles. They’ve lost on gay marriage, and they seem to have a penchant for running their mouth about rape. The decline in the proportion of married women in the electorate hurts, since single women are much more supportive of a large welfare state than are their married sisters. So does the growth of the latino vote. They’re going to eventually face defense cuts which will make the hawks madder than hell. And they’ve now nominated two candidates who have put forward almost nothing that couldn’t be found in Reagan’s 1980 platform. The party desperately needs some new ideas to sell to the American public.

But I am highly skeptical that last night means they’ve gone into some sort of permanent decline. It was a close election in which Obama lost states that he carried in 2012. The Democratic bench is very weak–the current leading candidates to succeed Obama, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, will be 69 and 74 in 2016. And Obama is going to have to preside over some very, very tough choices. We can’t borrow a trillion dollars a year for another four years. Nor can we get all the money from Republican constituencies; they just don’t have enough of the stuff. Whoever’s ox Obama chooses to gore will probably be a considerably less enthusiastic coalition member come 2016.

***

The morning after, everybody was saying that the Republican Party was in deep trouble: too much Tea Party; too few minorities, young people, and women. Don’t be so sure. In 2016, the Republican nominee will almost certainly be more dynamic and charming onstage than Romney, and the Democratic nominee will almost certainly be less inspiring than Obama. The economy, one hopes, will be better than it is now, and that will mean that voters’ natural impulse to look for government’s help during times of trouble will be reduced. The country won’t be mired in an unpopular Republican-originated war. In this campaign, Obama devoted most of his energies to making a case against Romney, not to building public support for his and his party’s agenda, and now a closely divided Washington will almost certainly deny him the chance to build a policy case for the next Democratic nominee. The Republicans will take every opportunity to build an argument that the Democrats are wild over-taxers and over-spenders, without letting them tax for and spend on programs that would obviously build gratitude and loyalty among middle-class voters.

Romney’s performance shows us the baseline level of what the national Republican apparatus, when fully funded and motivated, can achieve—and, compared to 2008, that level is rising.

***

“We need a third party to save this country,” Cain told American Family Radio host Bryan Fischer. “This country is in trouble and it is clear that neither party — is going to fix the problems we face.”

Cain agreed with Fischer’s assessment that conservatives are growing tired of being ignored by Republican party leadership — and that many believe the GOP no longer speaks for them…

He said the new party could be made up of not only disenfranchised Republicans — but also Democrats.

***

“He had a serious plan for fixing real problems. He concentrated on jobs, that was the important issue. He concentrated on the economy, we have more than 8% unemployment. People are suffering, the country is in disarray. If Mitt Romney cannot win in this economy, then the tipping point has been reached. We have more takers than makers and it’s over. There is no hope.”

***

“I went to bed last night thinking we are outnumbered,” Limbaugh concluded. “I went to bed last night thinking we’ve lost the country. I don’t know how else you look at this.”

***



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RR FTW!!!!!!

OmahaConservative on November 7, 2012 at 10:53 PM

It’s like returning to the scene of a crime…

… See you guys and gals later.

Seven Percent Solution on November 7, 2012 at 10:53 PM

me either Rush, me either…

Scrumpy on November 7, 2012 at 10:53 PM

America gave it a run..

Now it’s time to do it again..

Electrongod on November 7, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Ann Coulter was right. She predicted Romney would lose.

El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 10:54 PM

The Republic was overthrown in a neo-Stalinist putsch four years ago. Stalinists don’t walk away. Ever. Stalinists don’t hold elections – they put on shows to delude the masses, which they consider to be vermin, into believing that they still have some say and some degree of freedom. And when even that gets tiresome for them, they start slaughtereing people. By the tens of millions.


Time is short.

tom daschle concerned on November 7, 2012 at 10:55 PM

And this notion that Republicans have to change their platform to bring in the Latino voters…etc..

Fluck them..

Either they like to be free or not..

Their choice..

Electrongod on November 7, 2012 at 10:55 PM

My prediction is:

R: 390 EV
O: 17

Let’s Roll!

portlandon on November 7, 2012 at 10:56 PM

Good evening guys and gals…

Fairing well…

Bid you all a good night… my head hurts :-(

Scrumpy on November 7, 2012 at 10:56 PM

Maybe conservatives should invade Canada? We could probably take the country in less than a month. We invade from the South and we meet Palin in the middle.

El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 10:56 PM

We shall call it, the United States of Palin.

El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 10:57 PM

. Bright new conservatives lost. Foot-in-mouth conservatives lost. Establishment retreads lost. Moderates lost

Yes, but the good news is Alan Greyson is back.

JPeterman on November 7, 2012 at 10:57 PM

The reason this great nation came to be was because of tyranny.

Looks like the cycle will repeat itself.

Electrongod on November 7, 2012 at 10:58 PM

Maybe conservatives should invade Canada? We could probably take the country in less than a month. We invade from the South and we meet Palin in the middle.

El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 10:56 PM

LOL! Ask Ezra Levant about that.

tom daschle concerned on November 7, 2012 at 10:58 PM

“We need a third party to save this country,” Cain told American Family Radio host Bryan Fischer. “This country is in trouble and it is clear that neither party — is going to fix the problems we face.”

Now, I’m not real big on going so far as throwing people out of the party, but the skirt-chasing lech and the gay-bashing zealot are more than free to leave while the adults fix the problems.

KingGold on November 7, 2012 at 10:58 PM

My EV prediction: Romney 322, Obama 216

El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 10:58 PM

I think I give up.

wolly4321 on November 7, 2012 at 10:58 PM

The biggest problem the Republican party has is too many swing voters, and potential democrat converts, see it as “The Party Of The Rich” and democrats have used that to beat Republicans about the head and shoulders as far back as I can remember. That alone is probably worth at least 5% for the democrats in any given election

VorDaj on November 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM

What I do miss..

Is Ann being First Lady..
Class Act she is…

Electrongod on November 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM

It should have been a landslide if Romney had run as a true conservative,” said Brent Bozell of the Media Research Center.

Tell that to Allen West and Richard Mourdock.

Millions of people did not even bother to vote. If Republicans can find a way to reach those people, they can win. It is not their principles that are at fault, but their message. So many people are disillusioned with the process.

Terrye on November 7, 2012 at 11:01 PM

Romney has a long history of losing and this was no different. Republicans thought they could win if they run a ham sandwich against the Democrats and found out that wasn’t the case.
The ham sandwich lost.

sharrukin on November 7, 2012 at 11:01 PM

Here’s an idea Republican’s.

How about closing all the primaries?

JPeterman on November 7, 2012 at 11:01 PM

The biggest problem the Republican party has is too many swing voters, and potential democrat converts, see it as “The Party Of The Rich” and democrats have used that to beat Republicans about the head and shoulders as far back as I can remember. That alone is probably worth at least 5% for the democrats in any given election

VorDaj on November 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM

That’s why we should compromise on taxes. We should let all the EVIl Bush tax cuts expire.

El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 11:01 PM

Bill Whittle’s post election Stratosphere Lounge has an interesting take on it. Dramatic, to say the least…

Dongemaharu on November 7, 2012 at 11:01 PM

I think I give up.

wolly4321 on November 7, 2012 at 10:58 PM

No you won’t

We need you..

This Country is going through some growing pains right now…
Just that the Dems and Libs will need to feel some of that pain..
The regulations and laws passed by the libs are party neutral…
It effects everyone..

It will happen..
As Gumby says…”low info voters”..

Electrongod on November 7, 2012 at 11:02 PM

The ham sandwich lost.

sharrukin on November 7, 2012 at 11:01 PM

haha, we did believe that. The ham sandwich won the independents though. It was the dumb voter block that put Obama over the top.

El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Ann Coulter sure sounds like Stephanie Cutter.

Delusional.

portlandon on November 7, 2012 at 11:03 PM

HA has a really strange feel today…

OmahaConservative on November 7, 2012 at 11:03 PM

“I went to bed last night thinking we are outnumbered,” Limbaugh concluded. “I went to bed last night thinking we’ve lost the country. I don’t know how else you look at this.”

I went to bed drained, sorry, and felt a little like a cast member of Walking Dead. Surrounded & Outnumbered.

portlandon on November 7, 2012 at 11:04 PM

Battered Republican Syndrome–once again letting the Limbaughs, Coulters, Becks, Malkins, Levins, etc. set the tone and agenda, after the country has repeatedly indicated it would not tolerate such extremism. Ditch the hate talkers, Republicans, and learn to cooperate and empathize with people who are different from you.

Alpha_Male on November 7, 2012 at 11:04 PM

Here’s an idea Republican’s.

How about closing all the primaries?

JPeterman on November 7, 2012 at 11:01 PM

Should have happened years ago…

OmahaConservative on November 7, 2012 at 11:04 PM

Here’s an idea Republican’s.

How about closing all the primaries?

JPeterman on November 7, 2012 at 11:01 PM

That would give conservative a voice in the GOP.
Why would the party elites want that?

sharrukin on November 7, 2012 at 11:04 PM

Maybe conservatives should invade Canada? We could probably take the country in less than a month. We invade from the South and we meet Palin in the middle.

El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 10:56 PM

El_Terrible:

This sounds like a workable plan,we can paint the Maple Leaf blue,
and,oh wait,we have to add more Stars to da flag,hmmmmmm…….haha:0
(snark).

canopfor on November 7, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Economy probably gets worse…

Mid term, low turnout for Dems, R’s take senate…

2016: Cruz, landslide…

MGardner on November 7, 2012 at 11:05 PM

HA has a really strange feel today…

OmahaConservative on November 7, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Expected..

When I left for work this morning..

I lowered our flag to half mast..

My wife called me at work and asked why I did that..

She was getting cheers and camera shots of our flag..

Electrongod on November 7, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Breaking:

President Obama to GOP- I WON… AGAIN.

I am so proud of the American People. We proved to the world our elections CANNOT be bought.

HotAirLib on November 7, 2012 at 11:05 PM

That’s why we should compromise on taxes. We should let all the EVIl Bush tax cuts expire.

El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 11:01 PM

We probably should have at the high end. Now we have nothing because we tried to have too much.

VorDaj on November 7, 2012 at 11:06 PM

Mitt Romney was an excellent candidate. HE wasn’t the problem. The problems were voter fraud, the media, and an electorate who now expects daddy government to do EVERYTHING for them. How do you defeat that?

annoyinglittletwerp on November 7, 2012 at 11:07 PM

HA has a really strange feel today…

OmahaConservative on November 7, 2012 at 11:03 PM

It’s the smell of defeat. They will get over it. We did in 2004

HotAirLib on November 7, 2012 at 11:07 PM

HotAirLib on November 7, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Seriously, Congratulations. I remember what it was like to be on the winning side.

portlandon on November 7, 2012 at 11:07 PM

Ditch the hate talkers, Republicans, and learn to cooperate and empathize with people who are different from you.

Alpha_Male on November 7, 2012 at 11:04 PM

False premise, argument rejected.

What is your major malfunction?

tom daschle concerned on November 7, 2012 at 11:07 PM

Breaking:

President Obama to GOP- I WON… AGAIN.

I am so proud of the American People. We proved to the world our elections CANNOT be bought.

HotAirLib on November 7, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Do you work for the Administration?

If not..

You and/or your offspring will be effected..

Cheers.

Electrongod on November 7, 2012 at 11:07 PM

HotAirLib on November 7, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Obviously they can still be stolen, as last night proved.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 7, 2012 at 11:08 PM

A lot of the people who voted for Obama do not care about his record, his failures. It is pointless to point those failings out to the left..they do not care if he sucks, he is their man and they love him. Insane.I know.

Meanwhile Romney can lose even when he carries more Independents than Obama.

However, a second term of Obama just might wake up some of those millions who did not bother to vote at all. If Republicans can find a way to reach them.

One thing I thought was interesting. 9 million fewer people voted for Obama than in 2008. Where were those people?

Terrye on November 7, 2012 at 11:08 PM

I am so proud of the American People. We proved to the world our elections CANNOT be bought.

HotAirLib on November 7, 2012 at 11:05 PM

It was so refreshing that our wonderful and frugal President ran his campaign on just a shoe string budget.

VorDaj on November 7, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Losing….,According to FP,

its the Stimulus Stupid!!
————————–

It’s the Stimulus, Stupid
Why Obama won reelection when virtually every other incumbent in the West has been bounced from office.
Nov 7 2012
**********

It’s been a rough couple of years for incumbents around the world. In May 2010, Britain’s ruling Labour Party got walloped by the Conservatives, losing 91 seats while the Tories picked up 97; Prime Minister Gordon Brown gave way to David Cameron. In February 2011, Ireland’s ruling Fianna Fail won barely 15 percent of the vote, and was replaced by a coalition of rival parties. In June, Portugal’s Socialists were routed by the center-right Social Democrats. In November, Spain’s People’s Party crushed the ruling Socialists, winning the biggest parliamentary majority in 30 years. Earlier this year, Socialist Francois Hollande upended Nicolas Sarkozy in France. The leaders of Italy and Greece were forced out of office in favor of technocrats.

But yesterday, in case you missed it, Barack Obama not only beat Mitt Romney, but his party either held its own or picked up seats in the Senate.

It is hardly possible to overstate the tidal force of the global economic crisis on the politics of the West. Nearly every incumbent who ruled during this period has been ousted — the left by the right, the right by the left. And, in most cases, the margins were of historic dimensions. Of course there were local factors: the utter contempt with which so many French voters had come to regard Sarkozy, the British weariness with Brown’s grim visage. But it’s hardly surprising that the worst economic crisis in 70 years brought down the men who presided over it. And whatever else may be said of Obama’s re-election, we need to regard it in this extraordinary light.

Why did Obama win when all the others lost? First, of course, because he wasn’t in office when the crisis began; polls have found that many Americans still blame George W. Bush for the recession. Obama also benefited from a weak opponent who stirred no passion, and had little appeal to new voters who had swelled the rolls since 2008. And the Democrats had a better ground game than the Republicans. (More………..)
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http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/11/07/it_s_the_stimulus_stupid

canopfor on November 7, 2012 at 11:09 PM

HA has a really strange feel today…

OmahaConservative on November 7, 2012 at 11:03 PM

This stupid blog is the same it has been every other day. The country is different. The blog is still occupied by patriots and usurpers as it always has been.

tom daschle concerned on November 7, 2012 at 11:09 PM

HA has a really strange feel today…

OmahaConservative on November 7, 2012 at 11:03 PM

I was sick yesterday, did something bad happen?

arnold ziffel on November 7, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Ditch the hate talkers, Republicans, and learn to cooperate and empathize with people who are different from you.

Alpha_Male on November 7, 2012 at 11:04 PM

When it comes to haters, the Republicans are amateurs compared with the left. And you know it.

Terrye on November 7, 2012 at 11:09 PM

I am so proud of the American People. We proved to the world our elections CANNOT be bought.

HotAirLib on November 7, 2012 at 11:05 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio

And a billion dollars…

Other than that they cannot be bought.

sharrukin on November 7, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Economy probably gets worse…

Mid term, low turnout for Dems, R’s take senate…

2016: Cruz, landslide…

MGardner on November 7, 2012 at 11:05 PM

lol. I bet you we will create 6 million jobs by the next midterm elections. More if the GOP works with the president.

Hillary 2016

HotAirLib on November 7, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Been a while. Thought I’d stop by and congratulate certain Hotair commenters on their predications of race riots in the “certain” event of an Obama loss… becoming true, albeit with a twist:

Obama re-election protest escalates at Univ. of Mississippi; racial slurs, 2 arrests reported

You might even say it’s a “historical” event:

The incident comes just after the 50th anniversary of violent rioting that greeted the forced integration of Ole Miss with the enrollment of its first black student, James Meredith.

So while denial of science, math and statistics led to some rather massive disappointment, you still managed to get something right.

lester on November 7, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Ann Coulter is insane. She sounds stoned too.

Pass the Dutchy to the left hand side, Ann.

portlandon on November 7, 2012 at 11:09 PM

I am so proud of the American People. We proved to the world our elections CANNOT be bought.

HotAirLib on November 7, 2012 at 11:05 PM

You should be really proud of our dead Americans in Libya..

They sacrificed their lives for the next fore years..

Enjoy..

Electrongod on November 7, 2012 at 11:10 PM

If you’ve got 2.5 minutes, libertarian-based Reason.com’s Nick Gillespie explains it all for you . . . seriously, he really does.

3 Reasons Mitt Romney and Republicans Lost Big in Election 2012

RomanticIdeal on November 7, 2012 at 11:10 PM

Mitt Romney was an excellent candidate. HE wasn’t the problem. The problems were voter fraud, the media, and an electorate who now expects daddy government to do EVERYTHING for them. How do you defeat that?

annoyinglittletwerp on November 7, 2012 at 11:07 PM

Yes on everything but voter fraud. Any discussion of voter fraud is completely out of place.

This election was close. But it was well beyond the margin of fraud. The more people blame voter fraud, the less we’re actually going to talk about fixing our systemic problems.

KingGold on November 7, 2012 at 11:10 PM

Terrye on November 7, 2012 at 11:01 PM

On Allen West I lay that at the door of the FL establishment Republicans. West isn’t done yet.

There was a lot of shuffling in FL, that IMHO was done to give Connie Mack of a dynasty political family, the R nomination for Senator. Mack was at the bottom of my choices for the R nominee.

Adam Hasner, a good conservative, was running for Senate. I think last fall Mack decided he wanted to run. You may not remember it, but during the FL primary Mack and his dad were running around making sure Mack got face time with Romney. During redistricting the Rs changed West’s district. I’m not sure of the geographical lines, but West was running in a district that was at least partially new. At some point Hasner withdrew and was the designated guy running in what was essentially West’s old district.

I’m not privy to inside scoop, but this is my evaluation looking from the outside. As I see it, the FL R party blew the Senate race and may have blown West’s seat, all for the sake of one of their own.

INC on November 7, 2012 at 11:11 PM

and the Democratic nominee will almost certainly be less inspiring than Obama.

Inspiring? Is that what they’re calling him now?

O_o

Bishop on November 7, 2012 at 11:11 PM

Mitt Romney was an excellent candidate. HE wasn’t the problem. The problems were voter fraud, the media, and an electorate who now expects daddy government to do EVERYTHING for them. How do you defeat that?

annoyinglittletwerp on November 7, 2012 at 11:07 PM

When all else fails, hit it with a hammer. (Murphy’s Law)

VorDaj on November 7, 2012 at 11:11 PM

HA has a really strange feel today…

OmahaConservative on November 7, 2012 at 11:03 PM

It became a bubble and it was burst last night. And now we can either log in every day to b!tch and moan about how awful King Obama is or we carry on, ignore all of the bad news and hope for the best.

JPeterman on November 7, 2012 at 11:12 PM

Ann Coulter is insane. She sounds stoned too.

Pass the Dutchy to the left hand side, Ann.

portlandon on November 7, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Getting high with Ann? duuude!

tom daschle concerned on November 7, 2012 at 11:12 PM

Other than that they cannot be bought.

sharrukin on November 7, 2012 at 11:09 PM

You are a hypocrite. 8 out of 10 of the richest counties in America voted for Obama. There are a lot of rich liberals out there who spend more to cater a party than the average American lives on in a year. And those people are mighty pleased with themselves right now.

Well, except for the fact that the market tanked today in the worst post election sell off since 1948. I think those markets know what is coming. And you will too, soon enough.

sucker.

Terrye on November 7, 2012 at 11:12 PM

Electrongod on November 7, 2012 at 11:05 PM

I took my 5 small flags, and burned them over the bathroom sink. Husband won’t let me touch the big one on the family room wall. i also chucked my flag pin that was on my nametag and tossed my patriotic shirts. My new pin and shirts will have the Texas flag on them.
S*****D!

annoyinglittletwerp on November 7, 2012 at 11:12 PM

Obviously they can still be stolen, as last night proved.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 7, 2012 at 11:08 PM

So i guess the 2010 midterms were stolen as well correct? Accept it, YOUR SIDE LOST and will continue to lose as long as you continue demonizing minorities, women and middle class Americans.

HotAirLib on November 7, 2012 at 11:12 PM

“We need a third party to save this country,” Cain told American Family Radio host Bryan Fischer. “This country is in trouble and it is clear that neither party — is going to fix the problems we face.”

Stupidest idea yet.

bluegill on November 7, 2012 at 11:13 PM

I have an agenda that will “make small-government conservatism more attractive to the public”: Sitting back and letting the country “find out what’s in the bill.”

Hourly employees can say goodbye to overtime pay. Hell, they can say good bye to working more than thirty hours a week. Insurance premiums and deductibles are going to skyrocket. Many employers will simply drop insurance all together and pay the tax penalty instead.

And all the uninsured dopes who think that Obamacare is going to give them free health insurance are in for a very, very rude awakening. They won’t be getting insurance, but they will be getting taxed for not having insurance, and they’ll remain uninsured.

Lawdawg86 on November 7, 2012 at 11:13 PM

If you’ve got 2.5 minutes, libertarian-based Reason.com’s Nick Gillespie explains it all for you . . . seriously, he really does.

3 Reasons Mitt Romney and Republicans Lost Big in Election 2012

P.S. I’m so happy I’m a libertarian. If I were a traditional conservative, I think I’d be on a suicide watch . . .

RomanticIdeal on November 7, 2012 at 11:13 PM

Meanwhile as America Burns…………………

the VP,is out ACTING,isn’t that just TERR-F’kn-Riffic!!
——————————————————–

News/
Vice President Joe Biden to Guest Star on Parks and Recreation
Today 7:29PM
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http://ca.eonline.com/news/361267/vice-president-joe-biden-to-guest-star-on-parks-and-recreation?cmpid=sn-000000-twitterfeed-365-topstories&utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=twitterfeed&utm_campaign=twitterfeed_topstories&%3Fcmpid=eonline-twitter&dlvrit=48939

canopfor on November 7, 2012 at 11:14 PM

You should be really proud of our dead Americans in Libya..

They sacrificed their lives for the next fore years..

Enjoy..

Electrongod on November 7, 2012 at 11:10 PM

Your side over politicized the Libya thing hence the reason why Americans tuned out. Hopefully we can get to the bottom of what happened now that Obama has won.

HotAirLib on November 7, 2012 at 11:14 PM

If you’ve got 2.5 minutes, libertarian-based Reason.com’s Nick Gillespie explains it all for you . . . seriously, he really does.

3 Reasons Mitt Romney and Republicans Lost Big in Election 2012

RomanticIdeal on November 7, 2012 at 11:10 PM

I may have made it 1.5 minutes.

I can guarantee it is the last 1.5 minutes I will ever give to Nick Gillespie and “Reason”

tom daschle concerned on November 7, 2012 at 11:15 PM

I took my 5 small flags, and burned them over the bathroom sink. Husband won’t let me touch the big one on the family room wall. i also chucked my flag pin that was on my nametag and tossed my patriotic shirts. My new pin and shirts will have the Texas flag on them.
S*****D!

annoyinglittletwerp on November 7, 2012 at 11:12 PM

It is expected..

When stupidity is found to rule..

Us realists have to vent..

HAL..

Up yours..

Electrongod on November 7, 2012 at 11:15 PM

The GOPe will betray you..:)

Dire Straits on November 7, 2012 at 11:15 PM

I am so proud of the American People. We proved to the world our elections CANNOT be bought.

HotAirLib on November 7, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Yeah…uh…Edrty Eddty, Osama Bin Laden, and the entire Cowboys defensive line would beg to differ.

Bishop on November 7, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Mitt Romney was an excellent candidate. HE wasn’t the problem. The problems were voter fraud, the media, and an electorate who now expects daddy government to do EVERYTHING for them. How do you defeat that?

annoyinglittletwerp on November 7, 2012 at 11:07 PM

When all else fails, hit it with a hammer. (Murphy’s Law)

VorDaj on November 7, 2012 at 11:11 PM

Well that and look at the big picture. 30 Republican Governors. State legislatures in the control of Republicans. And the Republicans kept the House. The people have divided the government between the Republicans on the local level and Democrats in the federal. Interesting.

Terrye on November 7, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Hillary 2016

HotAirLib on November 7, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Vote Hillary. She will bring the Benghazi, I mean bacon, home.

VorDaj on November 7, 2012 at 11:16 PM

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over lousy fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The av
erage of the world�s great civilizations before they decline has been 200 years. These nations have progressed in this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; from faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to Complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependency; from dependency back again to bondage.

-Alexander Tyler

KCB on November 7, 2012 at 11:16 PM

I’m not privy to inside scoop, but this is my evaluation looking from the outside. As I see it, the FL R party blew the Senate race and may have blown West’s seat, all for the sake of one of their own.

INC on November 7, 2012 at 11:11 PM

Allen West is not entitled to a safe seat in Congress any more than anyone else is. Stop ragging on the Florida legislature for doing their constitutional duty.

And, last I checked, Connie Mack won the primary fair and square. He was not formally endorsed by Romney. Adam Hasner dropped out because he was pulling 1 to 2% support, not because of evil nefarious insiders. Ditto Mike McCalister. Connie Mack’s victory, and subsequent blowout loss, was all his own doing.

KingGold on November 7, 2012 at 11:17 PM

8 out of 10 of the richest counties in America voted for Obama. There are a lot of rich liberals out there who spend more to cater a party than the average American lives on in a year. And those people are mighty pleased with themselves right now.

Terrye on November 7, 2012 at 11:12 PM

And I am sure all 250,000 of those rich liberals voted for Obama. Now they have to find a few tens of millions more votes which is where the free Obama phones come in.

sharrukin on November 7, 2012 at 11:17 PM

I am so proud of the American People. We proved to the world our elections CANNOT be bought.

HotAirLib on November 7, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Obama, the billion dollar president. Go tell Soros you can not buy an election. He would get a laugh out of that.

Terrye on November 7, 2012 at 11:17 PM

And,…….to Cope with Hopey,A brilliant suggestion……WEED!

(Snark)

Tweet of the Moment: Rep. Kingston On Weed, Coping With Obama Win
November 7, 2012 | 3:41 p.m
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Last night’s win for President Barack Obama has left some Republicans feeling slightly depressed, but Rep. Jack Kingston, R-Ga., has an idea on how to take the edge off — at least in Colorado.

Kingston tweeted this nugget of advice, referencing Colorado’s just-passed amendment “allowing for the legal, recreational use of marijuana.

Jack Kingston ‏@JackKingston

In legalizing pot, the voters of Colorado have proven they know how to deal with four more years of #Obama

https://twitter.com/JackKingston

Oh jeez. Well, if that’s the logic, what are voters in Georgia to do? The southern state hasn’t legalized marijuana.
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http://influencealley.nationaljournal.com/2012/11/rep-jack-kingston-who-handidly.php

canopfor on November 7, 2012 at 11:17 PM

Yeah…uh…Edrty Eddty, Osama Bin Laden, and the entire Cowboys defensive line would beg to differ.

Bishop on November 7, 2012 at 11:15 PM

And many times each from what I hear.

VorDaj on November 7, 2012 at 11:18 PM

Mitt Romney was an excellent candidate. HE wasn’t the problem. The problems were voter fraud, the media, and an electorate who now expects daddy government to do EVERYTHING for them. How do you defeat that?

annoyinglittletwerp on November 7, 2012 at 11:07 PM

You may want to blame your message. I am telling you most Americans do not subscribe to this far right agenda you guys are selling.

The 2010 landslide only happened because democrats and middle of the road Americans sat out the election. No way they were doing that again in 2012

HotAirLib on November 7, 2012 at 11:18 PM

Electable.

Dongemaharu on November 7, 2012 at 11:18 PM

A guy at my company made an interesting comment this morning:

“If the GOP wanted to win the women’s vote, $13.00 worth of birth control to every one of them seems like a small price to pay to win the election.”

I told him to go find something to do, before I found him something to do.

He was not in my eyes view for the rest of the day.

portlandon on November 7, 2012 at 11:18 PM

HotAirLib on November 7, 2012 at 11:12 PM

Born and raised cradle-conservative JEWISH. grew up in Nation of Islam territory(graduated from high school w/ one of Calypso Louie’s sons), last time I looked I was still female(I voted with my brain-not my vay-jay), and between my and my husband’s incomes-we’re middle-class…barely.
kiss. my. ass.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 7, 2012 at 11:19 PM

You may want to blame your message. I am telling you most Americans do not subscribe to this far right agenda you guys are selling.

The 2010 landslide only happened because democrats and middle of the road Americans sat out the election. No way they were doing that again in 2012

HotAirLib on November 7, 2012 at 11:18 PM

Name 3 planks of the “Far right agenda”

tom daschle concerned on November 7, 2012 at 11:19 PM

Your side over politicized the Libya thing hence the reason why Americans tuned out. Hopefully we can get to the bottom of what happened now that Obama has won.

HotAirLib on November 7, 2012 at 11:14 PM

LOL…

Your boy knew what the problem was within minutes as the local surveillance cameras showed Al Quada setting up road blocks and mortar launchers..

IT’S A YOU TUBE VIDEO!!!! After 3 hours into the Benghazi attack…from our Embassy in Cairo..

Electrongod on November 7, 2012 at 11:19 PM

And I am sure all 250,000 of those rich liberals voted for Obama. Now they have to find a few tens of millions more votes which is where the free Obama phones come in.

sharrukin on November 7, 2012 at 11:17 PM

I do not even know what that means…I am just pointing out that for a guy who is always trash talking the rich, he sure is a big hit with them…and they do love to throw big parties for Barry. All the big celebs living like royalty schmoozing it up with the socalled man of the people…give me a break. half the kids I know who voted for this bozo think he is going to pay off their school loans. Imagine how surprised they will be when they find out that they can not even get a job.

sucker.

Terrye on November 7, 2012 at 11:20 PM

The GOPe will betray you..:)

Dire Straits on November 7, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Americans will betray themselves..
Then blame the previous administration..

Electrongod on November 7, 2012 at 11:21 PM

And many times each from what I hear.

VorDaj on November 7, 2012 at 11:18 PM

Wrong. The Barky Campaign was very scrupulous about accepting only one donation from each Palestinian citizen, especially those who worked for “QWERTYU”.

Bishop on November 7, 2012 at 11:21 PM

A big problem is that we are seen as “country club” and not “Joe the Plumber.” I think the very name of our party, “Republican,” is a tarnished “country club” name, and if we could scrap the name in a branding move, it would win us several points. A whole new party kind of loosely but in a seriously moderated way based on Ron Paul’s principles maybe could pull a new cart, a new and youthful majority. However you slice it, abortion scores nothing but hurt for us, but also Ron Paul’s “eliminate the income tax” is too extreme, as in fact we need to be open to moderately high levels of progressive taxation, such as 50% (as a maximum!) on combined fed & state income tax, and maybe 30% as an absolute maximum on capital gains. Just the reports of Romney paying 14% were not good.

But stick now to our principles, especialy on Obamacare. That will be the crucible. That will be where our fight is won or lost. And now with its almost certain implementation, it will take a kind of Paulesque view to win the people over to the idea of uprooting it.

Focus education and PAC ads on the intrinsic inefficiencies of govt control of things, as in terms of health care and what else not. The voters do not fully understand how govt messes things up in costly and terrible ways. Let them see the horror of the developing Obamacare, and then with a Paulesque sweep, cut back the creeping welfare state in a major way.

anotherJoe on November 7, 2012 at 11:22 PM

As an African American, I am SOOOOOO glad Allen West lost last night. I called every low info friend in his district and urged them to vote against him. The man was a disgrace to all African Americans.

HotAirLib on November 7, 2012 at 11:22 PM

Name 3 planks of the “Far right agenda”

tom daschle concerned on November 7, 2012 at 11:19 PM

The Declaration of Independence, the United States Constitution and non diet soda pop. All three will soon be banned by Obama executive order.

VorDaj on November 7, 2012 at 11:22 PM

INC on November 7, 2012 at 11:11 PM

You do know that Connie Mack’s wife also lost her re-election?

Why she’s in California holding office, I don’t know.

Connie Mack’s wife loses congressional race in California

JPeterman on November 7, 2012 at 11:23 PM

Your side over politicized the Libya thing hence the reason why Americans tuned out. Hopefully we can get to the bottom of what happened now that Obama has won.

HotAirLib on November 7, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Obama lied. He politicized Libya..he could have avoided all of this just by telling the truth. But then again, you do not care about those dead Americans anyway, so what do you care?

Terrye on November 7, 2012 at 11:23 PM

The world breaks everyone and afterward many are strong at the broken places.

– E. Hemingway

What lost this election was Team Romney’s, and to some degree Romney himself, wanting to appear reasonable and kind and respectful against a candidate and machine that was anything but. After months of unanswered personal attacks against him, some $120 million worth of them, Romney’s team decided to do a soft and compassionate convention, showing his soft and compassionate persona. His acceptance speech drooled honey and good, sweetness and light.

Yes, in the first debate, Romney shined and took it to what was a zombie at the other podium, but again not one attack on the zombie for what he was, a redistributionist liberal. The other debates were more of the same, but they did show that Romney certainly wasn’t the monster he’d been painted to be. Yet, again, no discussion of the real views of his opponent, no telling the public of the kind of “monster” Obama was.

The campaign was but a deja vu, McCain 2.0, as in we can’t say anything bad about a black guy.

So, I hope next time that we are “strong at the broken places.”

TXUS on November 7, 2012 at 11:23 PM

As an African American, I am SOOOOOO glad Allen West lost last night. I called every low info friend in his district and urged them to vote against him. The man was a disgrace to all African Americans.

HotAirLib on November 7, 2012 at 11:22 PM

You sound so stupid when you’re being … … so stupid.

VorDaj on November 7, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Why she’s in California holding office, I don’t know.

JPeterman on November 7, 2012 at 11:23 PM

Uh, because being Sonny Bono’s widow, she’s from California and lives there?

KingGold on November 7, 2012 at 11:24 PM

and the Democratic nominee in succession will almost certainly be less inspiring than Obama.

Although, she will have those fabulous toned arms.
/gag

OldChick on November 7, 2012 at 11:24 PM

As an African American, I am SOOOOOO glad Allen West lost last night. I called every low info friend in his district and urged them to vote against him. The man was a disgrace to all African Americans.

HotAirLib on November 7, 2012 at 11:22 PM

Why you got to hate on a brother?

portlandon on November 7, 2012 at 11:24 PM

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