Paul Ryan’s next move

posted at 6:43 pm on November 7, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

Even though the Romney/Ryan team didn’t manage to turn Wisconsin’s presidential vote around for Republicans, Paul Ryan hedged his bets and did win reelection to his House seat yesterday, and has confirmed that he’ll be returning to Congress. It’s pretty painful thinking about the ways in which Paul Ryan might’ve used the second-highest office in the land, particularly when compared to its current incumbent, but now we’ve no choice but to move back to square one. Not that we ever necessarily forget them, but for now it’s time to get back to the battles-not-wars mindset and start remembering all of the reasons Paul Ryan rose to prominence in the first place.

Remember this guy? I especially like this guy. If he can’t be vice president, then going back to Budget Chairman isn’t a total loss — somebody has to be the voice of fiscal sanity.

Of course, the question on everybody’s mind now is, will Paul Ryan be primed for his own presidential run in 2016, and will he be acting off of those considerations or be more willing to bend to Boehner’s potential plans for leading the party?

Politico‘s got the idea:

Ryan has an incentive to remain a purist — even after his vice presidential loss, the Wisconsin Republican remains an icon in the conservative movement…

Boehner, by contrast, has to deal with the grind-it-out realities of legislating and determine if he can cut a major fiscal deal with an even more liberal Democratic Senate and an triumphant President Barack Obama…

Ryan and Boehner spoke on Wednesday and had a “productive discussion,” according to GOP insiders.

“Paul Ryan in the House is stronger than ever,” said Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), who serves with him on the Budget Committee. “He’s got a big megaphone and we all have the greatest respect for him. He’s still one of the most articulate people on the budget and appropriations process, and the president still has to deal with the House.” …

With the status quo unchanged, we always knew this fiscal-cliff fight was going to be rough, and something’s gotta’ give somewhere. Whatever happens, Paul Ryan’s staunch free-market voice is why I wanted him to be vice president in the first place; with the GOP’s hopes for a federal power-shift dashed last night, in the thick of the things that Republicans can have a hand in is right back where I want him.


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And same as libertarians are communist lite.

riddick on November 7, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Your ignorance is astounding.

Dante on November 7, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Marxism of the Right

sharrukin on November 7, 2012 at 8:46 PM

Sorry guys, Palin quit on us. She didn’t even finish her governorship duties.

She quit, got her million dollar job, kept her fame, and that was that for her.

A Axe on November 7, 2012 at 7:38 PM

HEY YOU!!! YEAH, YOU!!! STUCK ON STUPID!!! Since I know you’re f-ing illiterate, do you need me to give you a call and read the following to you? Or should I get my high school age daughter to explain it to you?

No, she quit cause after about 5 or 6 of the lawsuits had went through the courts she was $500,000 in debt. She then tried to set up a legal defense fund which she was then sued over. There were about 18-19 more lawsuits she still had to fight off and the governorship of Alaska only pays about $125,000. So she only has a couple of choices: 1. stay as governor and go further into debt, 2. admit to doing whatever she was being sued over to get the lawsuits dropped even though she didn’t do anything illegal or unethical, or 3. resign and make money in the private sector to fight off the lawsuits. She obviously chose #3, all the lawsuits wound up being dismissed as frivolous and anybody who wouldn’t have done the same thing in the situation is an idiot.

topdawg on November 7, 2012 at 7:29 PM

This is why I hate the f-ing RINOs.

Guys, it’s time for a third party and let the GOP have the moderates and let them go the way of the whigs! I’ve had it with the damn elitist moderates!

dominigan on November 7, 2012 at 8:46 PM

Marxism of the Right

sharrukin on November 7, 2012 at 8:46 PM

Doubling down with ignorance.

Dante on November 7, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Yes..Rubio is basically Obama.

Illinidiva on November 7, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Obama beat the crap out of us, why not let Rubio return the favor?

El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Yes..Rubio is basically Obama.

Illinidiva on November 7, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Obama won twice so that sounds good to me. You’ll vote for him like you mindlessly voted for mittens

Flapjackmaka on November 7, 2012 at 9:06 PM

I was voting for change, and I do need a change, I would like Paul Ryan to be Speaker of the House…I would like to see others too, as Speaker. Boehner is the old face of the House, and I want a change.

I think that with the MSM tv programing working against the conservative point of view, that the 501c’s should advertise, “teach” conservative values and civics lessons on tv commercials. It would be worth more than the wasted commercials when the airwaves are saturated. People start to tune out those ads.

And we need to get the activities of the house into ads too, let people phone in their opinion or direct them to go online when a bill is introduced. That Saturday morning comment, but in prime time, everyone ignores those Saturday a.m. things, its from the earlier radio eras. Fast and Furious, it wasn’t on the news, but someone should have paid for the time and got in into the news. Benghazi…things they won’t cover on the MSM news because it doesn’t fit their narrative of us conservatives being…Whatever.

Fleuries on November 7, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Umm that only works because of the medis. They’re willing to shill for Barry, but are willing to point out Rubio’s vapidness. And I only voted for Romney in the primaries because the others were not serious contenders who would damage the GOP immensely. I will not vote for Rubio ever because he is basically Obama and I hate Obama.

Illinidiva on November 7, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Rand Paul 2016

El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 6:57 PM

Sorry, the sins of the father are visited on the son…I don’t want ANYTHING to do with that traitor or his family. Ron Paul was a graceless loser, who was in it only for his son…I would spit on that old b@stard if I could.

lovingmyUSA on November 7, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Um why do people want Ryan for a loser job like Speaker. I want him to be President.

Illinidiva on November 7, 2012 at 9:15 PM

The value of Ryan was wasted in this election.

CW on November 7, 2012 at 9:20 PM

The value of Ryan was wasted in this election.

CW on November 7, 2012 at 9:20 PM

He has no value, unless you’re a statist.

Dante on November 7, 2012 at 9:21 PM

The 2016 nominee will be Jeb Bush with Marco Rubio as Veep. Ryan’s seen as too extreme by the majority of party elders, plus it’s not “his turn” yet.

Doomberg on November 7, 2012 at 8:44 PM

That’s a non starter, for many reasons.

Walker, Jindal, Allen West, Palin, Pence, DeMint. Any combo should work.

riddick on November 7, 2012 at 9:40 PM

Paul Ryan’s next move

Just go, please and take the rest of the libs with you.

air_up_there on November 7, 2012 at 10:41 PM

People here think Paul Ryan is a liberal and a statist? Really? He’s a conservative and still has a bright political future.

Laura722 on November 7, 2012 at 10:51 PM

People here think Paul Ryan is a liberal and a statist? Really? He’s a conservative and still has a bright political future.

Laura722 on November 7, 2012 at 10:51 PM

These bright political future types are the reason we’re in the shape we are now. Paul Ryan is another power hungry liberal that wants to make a career out of being in office.

air_up_there on November 7, 2012 at 11:10 PM

HE should be our Speaker of the House!! Boehner has to go and I had such high hopes for him at first.

Bullhead on November 8, 2012 at 1:14 AM

Gosh.. I want this man to be President.. don’t you?? Seriously.. Also. Hottie looked sad yesterday and needs lots of love. :( I think that this is the first time he’s lost, so it is actually probably a good thing that he gets his loss in now.

Illinidiva on November 8, 2012 at 1:16 AM

HE should be our Speaker of the House!! Boehner has to go and I had such high hopes for him at first.

Bullhead on November 8, 2012 at 1:14 AM

Because that is such an awesome position… m’kay?

Illinidiva on November 8, 2012 at 1:18 AM

Mitt Romney got less votes than John McCain in 2008 because less people voted. Does the Republcan Party really believe that they can ever win another Presidential election? I don’t care who they run in 2016.

lea on November 8, 2012 at 6:21 AM

LOL!! That is incredibly funny!

People . . . this is the kind of thinking that will keep the Dems in the WH for decades to come.

Voter from WA State on November 7, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Really, that’s funny to you? Are his votes for TARP, the bailouts, Medicare Part D, confiscating CEO bonuses, voting to allow presidential appointments without Senate approval funny to you as well? All of these were voted for and/or supported by Obama and Biden.

Wake up.

Dante on November 8, 2012 at 7:51 AM

What is it about Rubio that you people aren’t getting? He isn’t eligible to be President, both his parents were not U.S. citizens when he was born. They didn’t become citizens until after he was born. He is not a natural born citizen. Gees, if it ain’t right for the Kenyan Messiah it ain’t right for the latin hottie.

jaimo on November 8, 2012 at 8:16 AM

Already was offered the Speakership in 2010 and basically declined. I think the last election suggests that he has bigger ambitions than Speaker.

Illinidiva on November 7, 2012 at 7:59 PM

Then they should go back to him and say “See where Boehner got us? The House GOP leadership is now toothless! If you don’t want to lead as Speaker, tell us who’s better suited for the job!”

Obama could be committing treasonous acts that make Nixon look like Jesus, and Boehner would be going “Yawn. What’s the next pork-barrel project?”

TMOverbeck on November 8, 2012 at 8:22 AM

The left were having similarly unproductive pissing matches after the 2010 elections. It’s our turn. Goes with the territory.

As for a third party… yeah, well… that’s just not a serious argument. Hey, if you can’t win an argument within your own party, with people at least willing to consider your opinions, do you think you have an argument that is going to sway the Obama phone, free cheese, open borders, tax the 1% until they bleed group? IF you’re actually serious about what the Tea Party stands for, you have to be smart, not just angry.

Candidates that make us feel good about what they “stand for”, but have no chance of getting elected in the general, leave us where we are.

Look, I love the Tea Party. I’ve been to rallies. I’ve contributed to its causes, and I want it to remain a force. But hissy fits aren’t going to get it done. When we replace an electable candidate who we don’t agree with (i.e. can’t control) with a substitute who gets whooped in the general… ugh.

Get and/or develop better candidates. Look into cloning Ted Cruz… just saying.

Sugar Land on November 8, 2012 at 9:16 AM

Read Dennis Miller comments on Romney as they are spot on. 0bama and the left won with Alinsky methods using smear and fear tactics that worked. For now, Ryan will do best with being in 0bamas face with budget details and pushing House plan after plan on big 0 and Reid until fiscal sanity is restored or 2016, whichever comes first. Reid will be up for election and hopefully, so will Ryan. We need to drop the whole stupid abortion crap and just say sorry, the taxpayers won’t pay for it and move on. We need to focus on economy, fixing entitlements and keeping a strong military that isn’t always being depleted to create muslim theocracies. Last but not least be very conservative economically. Socially , encourage personal responsibility but don’t mandate it. And drop the Bush crap. That family has done more than enough to wreck our economy with out of control entitlements and also weakening our military.

stuartm80127 on November 8, 2012 at 9:32 AM

Whatever happens, Paul Ryan’s staunch free-market voice is why I wanted him to be vice president in the first place;

If the Republican Party is serious about coming back and being taken seriously anybody who voted for, and even begged others to vote for, TARP can not be in a leadership position.

joey24007 on November 8, 2012 at 4:42 PM

being a statist is so much better than being a federalist…

– Smoov

Smoovious on November 8, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Paul Ryan is, and shall remain, one of the few voices of sanity in Washington. He becomes the leading candidate for the Republican nomination in 2016 right away. The party must not nominate another me-too moderate if it wishes to survive. And it must not change its message with regard to minority groups that were bought off by the Democrats, but the party must do a better job of communicating its message. Conservatism will work if you find the right messenger. Romney is not a conservative, nor was he the right messenger.

georgeofthedesert on November 9, 2012 at 11:21 AM

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