Looking at the national exit poll

posted at 7:21 pm on November 7, 2012 by Allahpundit

I know you’re polled out, but with all the navel-gazing today about demographics and the future of the GOP, I figured people might want a link to the numbers behind last night’s disaster. Here’s CNN’s version, Fox News’s version, and WaPo’s version, which breaks the trend lines down by arrows. (Mouse over for the numbers.) Noteworthy: The sample does apparently include respondents from all 50 states. There was some question about that after news broke last month that the exit pollster would exclude voters in 19 states, but WaPo reported at the time that that was only true of individual state-level exits. The master poll at the national level would incorporate people from everywhere, so it should be a decent yardstick for comparison against 2008.

One question I’m seeing in the comments is, “Did evangelicals turn out for Romney”? Yep, looks that way. Turnout among Protestants generally dropped slightly from 2008 (54% to 53%) but Romney’s share of the vote increased from 54% to 57%. Among white evangelicals specifically, turnout was steady at 26% of the electorate from four years ago and Romney took 78% of the vote compared to just 74% for McCain. If you’d rather slice the data by how often people go to church, the number who attend at least weekly rose from 39% in 2008 to 42% this time. McCain won 55% of that group. Romney won 59%. He improved on McCain’s numbers among Jewish voters too, from 21% of the vote in 2008 to 30% this time (or maybe more), the highest take for a Republican since 1988. If there’s any religious group that underperformed for him, it’s Catholics. He did improve on McCain’s numbers — from 45% to 48% — but O still won a majority despite the abortion-rights jamboree at the convention and the contraception mandate. Catholic turnout was down two points this time, however.

The interest in the comments in evangelicals, I think, is due to people looking at Romney’s popular vote total and wondering where all the votes went. McCain won just shy of 60 million votes in 2008. As I’m writing this, Politico’s popular vote tracker has Romney at 57.6 million. Where’d all the votes go? Possible answer: Nowhere. They’re out there, they just haven’t been counted yet, says John Podhoretz:

As I write, Mitt Romney has 57.4 million votes. John McCain ended up with 59.9 million. It’s a little noticed fact that in two weeks following every presidential election, votes continue to be reported…by the millions. As I recall, Barack Obama got something like four million more votes in the weeks after election day, while John McCain got two or three million. It’s likely that by Thanksgiving, the final vote tally will show Romney very close to or even slightly exceeding McCain’s total.

Could be that Romney turned out more than McCain, just not as many as O. This was always the challenge for Mitt: Obama won in 2008 with nearly 10 million more votes than McCain did, so he could afford to have millions of apathetic liberals stay home and still win. The lingering question is why Romney couldn’t turn out millions more Republicans to close the gap. I have no answers. Maybe the GOP in its current form has effectively maxed out national turnout. Or maybe they’re losing voters faster than they can replace them. The advantage of relying heavily on senior citizens, as the GOP does, is that they turn out reliably on election day. The disadvantage is, er, that they die, just as 18-year-olds — most of whom are pro-Obama — are coming onto the rolls. In fact, Romney won with the 54% of the electorate that was aged 45 or older. But thanks to Obama’s margin with younger voters, it wasn’t enough:

Obama actually won the 45-64 age group in 2008 (50/49) and he won younger voters by a bigger margin then (66/32) than he did this time. But it didn’t matter; the most eye-popping result from the entire exit poll, I think, is the fact that turnout among voters aged 18-29 actually increased this time (18% to 19%) from the Hopenchange-y zeitgeist moment of 2008. The sickest irony of yesterday’s result is that young voters, who have the most to lose from Democratic resistance to entitlement reform, are possibly the voters most responsible for ensuring O’s second term. More from Kristen Soltis:

Another revealing data point about the young blue electorate:

Other numbers? Romney won independents nationally by five and by similar margins in key states, but thanks to Obama’s amazing turnout effort (D+6!), it wasn’t enough. As you’ve likely heard, he lost Latinos 71/27 this time after McCain lost them 67/31; Latino turnout was also up a point nationally and may very well have won Florida for Obama. (Between that and the fact that 65% of voters sampled say illegals should be given a chance to apply for legal status, a GOP cave on immigration reform is all but assured.) As you’ve likely not heard, Obama won Asians by nearly the same margin as Latinos, 73/26, an 11-point improvement on how he did in 2008. (Asian turnout as a percentage of the electorate also increased by a point.) It’s not obvious to me what Romney or the GOP did policy-wise to alienate Asians specifically, but the perception that they’re “the white party” might be enough. Hence the agony among Republican analysts about the demographics in the exits.

This election was about the economy, though, wasn’t it? How’d Mitt do with that? Answer: Not so good.

A 10-point loss on the crucial issue of unemployment. On the question of who’d be better for the economy, Romney won by just one point, possibly because a plurality was convinced that things are getting better:

Hard to win an “economy election” if not even one-third of voters think conditions are deteriorating on election day. Hard to win too if you can’t crack 40% on the incumbent in this metric:

Finally, one more surprising detail about when people decided:

Romney lost every range except … September? September was the month of the “47 percent,” when he was getting pounded daily by Team O and fell behind in the national polls by four points. It was the low point of the campaign for him. The Mile High Massacre at the first debate that brought him back to life happened on October 3. What I think you’re seeing in the data here is people misremembering when the first debate was; they know it was “a long time ago” and that they made up their mind for Romney afterward, so they’re guessing it was September. As for the true late deciders, though, I’ve been resisting the explanation that Obama’s paint-by-numbers approach to looking “presidential” during a hurricane really could have swung some votes for him but it’s hard not to think so after looking at this. In fact, if you can believe it, 42% of voters claimed that Obama’s hurricane response was “important” to their vote (they broke 68/31 for O) and 64 percent said it was a “factor” (62/36 for O). And thus did a political career charmed by unbelievable luck get the luckiest break of all. I’ll leave you with this, from an apolitical friend of mine in NYC who e-mailed me last night in utter frustration at the result: “serious, hurricane sandy is actually factoring in in this election. If f*ckin bush had been president they’d say he let NY die. Meanwhile Obama is looking ‘presidential’ in the wake of this major disaster. Meanwhile people have no homes.” Anger at media bias — it’s not just for political junkies anymore.

Update: A friend e-mails with a good point about those late deciders. Maybe Romney won September because of Benghazi. Watching terrorists overrun a barely defended U.S. consulate and murder the ambassador surely did swing a few votes against the Foreign Policy President. But if that’s true and the September data above is accurate, then it may also mean that my theory about people misremembering is wrong and that Romney’s big comeback at the first debate may have helped him less than we thought.


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Maybe the GOP in its current form has effectively maxed out national turnout. Or maybe they’re losing voters faster than they can replace them. The advantage of relying heavily on senior citizens, as the GOP does, is that they turn out reliably on election day. The disadvantage is, er, that they die, just as 18-year-olds — most of whom are pro-Obama — are coming onto the rolls. In fact, Romney won with the 54% of the electorate that was aged 45 or older. But thanks to Obama’s margin with younger voters, it wasn’t enough:

That’s become the consensus belief as to wtf happened to the OH numbers, from the people working the ground game.

They were counting on people who had moved, were infirmed or sadly passed on.

Losing 100-200K elderly people in four years ain’t hard to do.

I said repeatedly, ad nauseum, that Obama was banking on a pool of spontaneously generated voters to win the state, because the voter rolls and population shifts away from the Dem counties made it near impossible.

They figured out how to find them on college campuses.

Think of it, if you were 17 when he won, you are 20 or 21 today.

You didn’t have a chance to be down with Barry the first time. Now you do.

So are you going to vote for the kewl guy, or the guy who is like your dad. If you had a dad. That works.

It’s not hard to splinter this group. They are libertarian but just don’t know it.

The way to not make headway is to keep McConnell and Boehner as the face of the party.

Has to be younger. Diversity won’t kill either.

Find a single version of Scott Brown or Paul Ryan with Rand Paul’s message, and you flip states back.

budfox on November 7, 2012 at 8:03 PM

If you give him four more years you won’t even mind when the UE rate is twice that.

magicbeans on November 7, 2012 at 8:02 PM

Europe never cared. People just sit on welfare all their life and vote for the party who will continue to give them money. Let’s not pretend it’s not the goal. Clearly it is.

lorien1973 on November 7, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Good Solid B-Plus on November 7, 2012 at 7:48 PM

excellent. how ?

runner on November 7, 2012 at 8:04 PM

8% unemployment is the new normal.

Obama probably got inoculated to the unemployment rate cuz it was so high for so long. People forgot it could be lower. 5.2% (Obama’s promise) seems unreasonably low after so long a period of time.

Europe wallowed around with 11% unemployment forever and nothing changed. No one cared. It was normal.

This is what I noticed too. When I talk to Obama voters they just say the good ole days are gone for good and things will never be the way it was, no matter who is in charge.

tkyang99 on November 7, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Sometimes what you KNOW isn’t true. Problem for HotAirians and other conservatives is they KNOW a lot of things that aren’t true –
Man-made climate change is a hoax
All illegal immigrants are parasites
All people on welfare are moochers
All Democrats are idiotic, Socialists, traitors
All pollsters are slanting their polls
The mainstream media is biased
Obama is a traitor, a liar, a Muslim
America has died
Majority of voters want to have illegal immigrants deported
Majority of voters want to repeal Obamacare
Obamacare means death panels

independentvoice on November 7, 2012 at 7:54 PM

I highly doubt everyone here who has opined on these issues has used the word “all”…unless of course you want to include yourself in the group of people “who know a lot of things that aren’t true”. Doubtful though, since you’re one of those wise indies who has all the answers.

As for the points you listed, every one of them has a kernel of truth attached, so the word “some” would work nicely in place of “all”.

Bishop on November 7, 2012 at 8:05 PM

picklesgap on November 7, 2012 at 7:28 PM

it depends on the candidate. although the conservatives would not want him Jeb Bush(hispanic wife) and good vibe in hispanic community is probably the only one of his generation with the credentials .

gerrym51 on November 7, 2012 at 8:05 PM

One last thing: I watched it.

The Dem (Obama) machine got them out. It was working for a long time, in my opinion. Give O props.

I don’t think it was Facebook but I shall bow to any superior info on specific cases you may have.

IlikedAUH2O on November 7, 2012 at 8:00 PM

It was unions.

Unions and ethnic-membership groups otherwise known as communist fronts.

Lourdes on November 7, 2012 at 8:06 PM

independentvoice on November 7, 2012 at 7:54 PM

You’re a pyromaniac in a field of strawmen.

lorien1973 on November 7, 2012 at 8:06 PM

independentvoice on November 7, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Not true at all.

It really depends on geography as to what a person’s hot button is.

Same thing with progs.

Some of them can’t stand the religious. Not all.

Some can’t stand white people. Not all.

Some can’t stand older people. Not all.

so on and so forth.

budfox on November 7, 2012 at 8:07 PM

it depends on the candidate. although the conservatives would not want him Jeb Bush(hispanic wife) and good vibe in hispanic community is probably the only one of his generation with the credentials .

gerrym51 on November 7, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Are you kidding? They wouldn’t vote for another Bush unless he became a Democrat.

MobileVideoEngineer on November 7, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Idiocracy….Mike Judge didn’t realize his movie was non-fiction

Erich66 on November 7, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Who raised this kids? I blame the parents! My kid is just 16 and even he couldn’t believe what happened last night. Of course it could be because he has never attended a public school so I can feel good about all that money we spent on a private Christian school education. Money well spent.

texgal on November 7, 2012 at 8:08 PM

http://www.examiner.com/article/feinstein-rumored-to-be-pushing-semi-auto-ban-if-obama-reelected

California Senator Dianne Feinstein‘s Washington, D.C. “…staff held meetings on Friday with FTB/ATF [Firearms Technology Branch/ Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives] legal staff to discuss a new ‘Assault Weapons Ban,” Jim Shepherd of The Shooting Wire reported yesterday, characterizing the meeting as a “rumor” based on “pretty good intelligence.”

Feinstein’s rumored bill “would ban pistol grips and “high-capacity” magazines, eliminate any grandfathering and ban sales of ‘weapons in possession’” Shepherd writes.

sharrukin on November 7, 2012 at 8:08 PM

It’s not about demographics.
People like getting stuff for free. Democrats promise it. So they vote for them. It’s really that simple.
And, if you look around the world, once the gravy train tips over. People don’t even care. They still want their free stuff – at the expense of everything else.
If you can’t make people think beyond their own selfishness, democrats will win that battle. This is why I, generally, preach that people need to see the consequences of their actions. And even then, I’m not sure it’ll matter.
lorien1973 on November 7, 2012 at 7:38 PM

That’s a big part of it.

Another huge problem is the media. They would not print anything negative about Obama or the Democratic party or even mention the looming financial crisis or the lack of a budget or the unfunded future liabilities of SS and Medicare.

Given the brilliant Obama rally attendees who stated “Forward” as Obama’s second term agenda-We’re done. The concept of letting everyone vote, no property test or literacy test or understanding of the issues or economics, while a noble experimment, has resulted in this. A popularity contest. And just as in homecoming queen elections, giving out free stuff gets you votes.

The media will never show the consequences of Democrat actions and most Obama supporters are too dumb to figure them out.

talkingpoints on November 7, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Europe never cared. People just sit on welfare all their life and vote for the party who will continue to give them money. Let’s not pretend it’s not the goal. Clearly it is.

lorien1973 on November 7, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Quite correct. When the higher level of misery becomes the norm, why bother. Americans ain’t immune. Not today’s Americans, anyway.

Lanceman on November 7, 2012 at 8:08 PM

gerrym51 on November 7, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Jeb Bush started Florida on the path of “nationalizing” the florida home insurance market. Crist finished the job. Not sure why people get a boner over Jeb.

lorien1973 on November 7, 2012 at 8:09 PM

Is the American “can do” attitude over?

Dow Jones lost -312!

So what will President Legacy leave us with?

CoffeeLover on November 7, 2012 at 8:09 PM

It’s also funny in this whole discussion about the youth vote no one has yet mentioned Ron Paul and his massive base of young fans.

I doubt Paul will run again in 2016, but we shouldn’t let that base he built up go to waste.

tkyang99 on November 7, 2012 at 8:09 PM

I have to get this off my chest and be done with it:

I was completely wrong about my election outcome estimations.

CO went to O, as did Ohio, WI and MI and even Iowa (mind blowing).

It’s gotta be due to unions and the fear-factor of threats of floundering “unless Obama is relected.” Lower income worker people herded along on fear to vote for O, is what I think, with that fear of “not having insurance, housing and food and birth control…”

People living on the edge like that and especially when they have language limitations and who must consider devastation to their lives if they don’t do what a union tells them to do, well, they’ll vote for who they’re told to vote for just to survive.

Lourdes on November 7, 2012 at 8:09 PM

For some reason the House stayed almost intact. Something to that.

runner on November 7, 2012 at 7:50 PM

The peeps are depending on gridlock to keep taxes down while they get to congratulate themselves on keeping 0 in office. Whe you think about it, it was the GOP house that prevented high taxes and higher spending. GOP opposition kept 0 in 0ffice.

clnurnberg on November 7, 2012 at 8:10 PM

had a conversation with some europeans (western europe) a little while back, they hate what is happening to them, how the welfare state has attracted a lot of hangers-on from…everywhere, ME, eastern Europe, how the benefits that were supposed to be for them are being eaten up by those groups, how the politicians keep protecting and feeding those groups because they continue to vote them into power…familiar, no ? they care, but less powerless to change anything, than we are.

runner on November 7, 2012 at 8:11 PM

All those young hipsters voting for the cool black dude are about to get crushed by an entire tank corp of fiscal reality, maybe they’ll become the replacements for the current seniors.

Bishop on November 7, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Well, at least while we are suffering under the new tyranny, it will be fun to watch the young stupid people learn something the hard way. There is that.

/Yeah, you trolls, rot in the communist hell you’ve brought upon us. You have no idea what you have unleashed upon this country – a narcissistic demagogue with no limits now that he has no need to worry about getting re-elected.

AZfederalist on November 7, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Now ice cold and snowy for people without heat for nearly two weeks

blatantblue on November 7, 2012 at 7:59 PM

blatantblue:I’m watching it:)
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Nor’easter November 2012
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A nor’easter is expected to move up the Atlantic Coast on Nov. 7, 2012, with a likely impact on New York and New Jersey, which were hit by superstorm Sandy on Oct. 29, 2012.

Observation station reporting 2.8 inches of snow in Central Park – @breakingweather

4 mins ago by editor
(More….)
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http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/noreaster-november-2012

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canopfor on November 7, 2012 at 8:11 PM

gerrym51 on November 7, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Jeb Bush started Florida on the path of “nationalizing” the florida home insurance market. Crist finished the job. Not sure why people get a boner over Jeb.

lorien1973 on November 7, 2012 at 8:09 PM

I agree with you. The answer is, though, that Jeb holds that promise of amnesty for illegal aliens, of some sort of “open borders utopia” view of the US for those from Central, Latin and South America, but particularly from Mexico.

Lourdes on November 7, 2012 at 8:11 PM

sharrukin on November 7, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Aw heck no! Not this again.

El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 8:12 PM

The concept of letting everyone vote, no property test or literacy test or understanding of the issues or economics, while a noble experimment, has resulted in this. A popularity contest. And just as in homecoming queen elections, giving out free stuff gets you votes.

The media will never show the consequences of Democrat actions and most Obama supporters are too dumb to figure them out.

talkingpoints on November 7, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Concept is right. There is no Constitutional right to vote in a federal election.

The founders knew this. When parasite and producer have an equal say, it’s game over.

Lanceman on November 7, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Lourdes on November 7, 2012 at 8:09 PM

I thought it’d be closer, but I called it for Obama on Monday. I knew Romney would win nearly every close race. After Romney moved into MN/WI/PA, I sensed that he thought OH was at best 50/50 and that was bad news. And he pulled out of Florida too soon.

lorien1973 on November 7, 2012 at 8:12 PM

by the way, the situation in New York is getting worse, gas lines are not abating, power is still questionable, and people are getting desperate and burnt out.

rob verdi on November 7, 2012 at 7:38 PM

After what they have helped do to the country, I find it hard to muster up a whole bunch of sympathy. They have worshiped the beast, let the beast provide them relief.

AZfederalist on November 7, 2012 at 8:13 PM

Republicans losing young voters hmmm. Maybe giving the school system over to liberals was a bad idea? Maybe moving to the suburbs and developing a large case of enmity and apathy for the cities was a mistake… Democrat machine politics belches out more Democrats… interesting

I have had these conversations before. On Hotair and off line. I get the same sh!t reaching out to the black community is immediately written off as trying to out liberal liberals and giving away more at the ballot box. This is before I can even finish my ideas. If the GOP had a presence in cities not just running candidates sure to lose but sponsoring in events, and buying baseball uniforms and having a float in the MLK day parade people might start to listen. Hey man you’ll live if you leave El Cajon or Carlsbad, promise.

Theworldisnotenough on November 7, 2012 at 8:13 PM

Aw heck no! Not this again.

El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Yee-haw.

And amnesty is probably not far behind.

sharrukin on November 7, 2012 at 8:13 PM

Dow Jones lost -312!

So what will President Legacy leave us with?

CoffeeLover on November 7, 2012 at 8:09 PM

So what? Nothing that a little bit of vitamin QE 3 won’t fix.

Lanceman on November 7, 2012 at 8:14 PM

After what they have helped do to the country, I find it hard to muster up a whole bunch of sympathy. They have worshiped the beast, let the beast provide them relief.

AZfederalist on November 7, 2012 at 8:13 PM

I’m from NJ and I sort of agree. NYC was partaying in Times Square last night for the 0.

clnurnberg on November 7, 2012 at 8:15 PM

Jeb Bush started Florida on the path of “nationalizing” the florida home insurance market. Crist finished the job. Not sure why people get a boner over Jeb.

I’m Not in love with Jeb Bush but i don;t hate him. It would be nice though to have a candidate that can be on equal footing with latinos.

If not I find people pushing pure hispanics like Rubio who other than being hispanic has no real resume.

You may not like Jeb but you can’t say he does not have a resume to be president

gerrym51 on November 7, 2012 at 8:15 PM

Sometimes what you KNOW isn’t true. Problem for HotAirians and other conservatives ….
independentvoice on November 7, 2012 at 7:54 PM

This guy just keeps copying and pasting this same “comment” from thread to thread.

Sherman1864 on November 7, 2012 at 8:16 PM

The concept of letting everyone vote, no property test or literacy test or understanding of the issues or economics, while a noble experimment, has resulted in this. A popularity contest. And just as in homecoming queen elections, giving out free stuff gets you votes.

The media will never show the consequences of Democrat actions and most Obama supporters are too dumb to figure them out.

talkingpoints on November 7, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Yes, exactly right.

AND NOW looms the “New” Supreme Progressive Court that’ll continue to push the “Constitution should be changed to reflect changing culture” also known as “the living document” miserable theory…which also our current Dept. of State and DOJ observe (Harold Koh with DoS is a disaster in this rotten regard, considers the US Const. “subjected to international law” which most Progressives like him also do — and as does Sotomayor and Kagan.

Not to mention whoever else O gets on that bench. This is going to be terrible….

Lourdes on November 7, 2012 at 8:16 PM

I see your point and raise you this:

8% unemployment is the new normal.

Obama probably got inoculated to the unemployment rate cuz it was so high for so long. People forgot it could be lower. 5.2% (Obama’s promise) seems unreasonably low after so long a period of time.

Europe wallowed around with 11% unemployment forever and nothing changed. No one cared. It was normal.

Back in 2009 (you could probably google this), I said that if UE got below 8% Obama wins in 2012. 8.5% is a 50/50 bet. Simply due to the length of time UE had been high. You get used to less. That’s human nature.

lorien1973 on November 7, 2012 at 7:56 PM

Good points. As long as the Europeans get their mandatory paid 6 week long holiday every year, no one cares what the unemployment numbers are anymore.

15 to 20% of Eastern Europeans still long for the days of Communism, something that I still can’t understand. Capitalism and free enterprise is a mantle that the young have embraced where I came from. Funny how so many young people here in the U.S. have been indoctrinated to believe that it’s evil.

JPeterman on November 7, 2012 at 8:18 PM

You may not like Jeb but you can’t say he does not have a resume to be president

gerrym51 on November 7, 2012 at 8:15 PM

Sure I can. He doesn’t have the resume to become president.

Remember his daughter? Who was arrested for some drug smuggling thing or something?

His wife? Who was busted going on super expensive shopping trips overseas or something?

His last name is Bush.

lorien1973 on November 7, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Jeb Bush started Florida on the path of “nationalizing” the florida home insurance market. Crist finished the job. Not sure why people get a boner over Jeb.

I’m Not in love with Jeb Bush but i don;t hate him. It would be nice though to have a candidate that can be on equal footing with latinos.

If not I find people pushing pure hispanics like Rubio who other than being hispanic has no real resume.

You may not like Jeb but you can’t say he does not have a resume to be president

gerrym51 on November 7, 2012 at 8:15 PM

I don’t “hate” Jeb Bush, either. I just don’t want him as President. He really, really should move to Mexico and run for the PResidency down there, he’d be a great President for Mexico.

Lourdes on November 7, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Republicans losing young voters hmmm. Maybe giving the school system over to liberals was a bad idea? Maybe moving to the suburbs and developing a large case of enmity and apathy for the cities was a mistake… Democrat machine politics belches out more Democrats… interesting

I have had these conversations before. On Hotair and off line. I get the same sh!t reaching out to the black community is immediately written off as trying to out liberal liberals and giving away more at the ballot box. This is before I can even finish my ideas. If the GOP had a presence in cities not just running candidates sure to lose but sponsoring in events, and buying baseball uniforms and having a float in the MLK day parade people might start to listen. Hey man you’ll live if you leave El Cajon or Carlsbad, promise.

Theworldisnotenough on November 7, 2012 at 8:13 PM

This is what a lot of suburban churches are trying to do. There are suburban churches here that go into Downtown (especially North) Saint Louis, the issue is that given the racial make up of the suburbs and North Saint Louis it is sometimes hard to breakthrough and build relationships.

MobileVideoEngineer on November 7, 2012 at 8:18 PM

It appears that we’ll never know what American voters were thinking as the majority of them lacked the capacity to structure a sentence or communicate in written form.

hisfrogness on November 7, 2012 at 8:19 PM

libfreeordie on November 7, 2012 at 7:59 PM

You’re right. Preventing most of the ground troops is Obama’s job.

bw222 on November 7, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Capitalism and free enterprise is a mantle that the young have embraced where I came from. Funny how so many young people here in the U.S. have been indoctrinated to believe that it’s evil.

JPeterman on November 7, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Humans are lazy, by nature. Give them $100 every day, and they’ll never get a job that pays $150 a day. Socialism feeds into that. Humans will happily get by with less, if it means they need to do nothing.

That’s why communism fails. Socialism simply lets some “preferred” businesses get perks to keep enough people employed so it just takes longer. That’s why rich people love socialism.

lorien1973 on November 7, 2012 at 8:20 PM

The peeps are depending on gridlock to keep taxes down while they get to congratulate themselves on keeping 0 in office. Whe you think about it, it was the GOP house that prevented high taxes and higher spending. GOP opposition kept 0 in 0ffice.

clnurnberg on November 7, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Even though Joe “$500 Trillion Cut” Biden came right out and said that Obama does want to raise taxes. Which leads us back to the fact that people are simply stupid.

MobileVideoEngineer on November 7, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Some are demonstrably true, though your generalizations are so widely flung as to be ludicrous.

hillbillyjim on November 7, 2012 at 8:01 PM

So which statements are demonstrably true? I say none are.

As for the points you listed, every one of them has a kernel of truth attached, so the word “some” would work nicely in place of “all”.

Bishop on November 7, 2012 at 8:05 PM

“Some” doesn’t come close to the Hot Air poster percentages who believe these things. Maybe 99% is more accurate than “all”, but my point stands. And where are the kernels of truth you’re referring to?

independentvoice on November 7, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Rubio/Martinez 2016– Can’t lose! Cuban American Senator man from Florida and Mexican American woman Governor of New Mexico.

Both gave great speeches at the RNC. Martinez in particular stood out with her speech about her family not realizing they were Republican until they were around other Republicans

We can get at least half the Hispanic vote or more if people are willing to do what is needed. The way I look at it is the reality is that the gates were forever opened in 1986′s amnesty decision. Can’t put the tooth past back in the tube. We need to embrace it or fade off into permanent minority status as a party.

Gov Brian Sandoval of Nevada would also be a great choice.

Rockshine on November 7, 2012 at 8:22 PM

You may not like Jeb but you can’t say he does not have a resume to be president

gerrym51 on November 7, 2012 at 8:15 PM

Sure I can. He doesn’t have the resume to become president.

Remember his daughter? Who was arrested for some drug smuggling thing or something?

His wife? Who was busted going on super expensive shopping trips overseas or something?

His last name is Bush.

lorien1973 on November 7, 2012 at 8:18 PM

I agree with lorien…his wife seems mentally unwell, can’t speak without crying and blaming “mericans” and yaddayaddayadda…

Bush repeats how “ashamed” he is of Americans, how we’re so (name a negative here) and all that and always resets to his pro-Lation/Hispanic position that’s nonsensical in all but the emotional realm. Likely, certainly, due to his wife’s ethnicity (she’s from Mexico).

His son is some pretty-boy show off who has a bad history emotiionally, not to mention again that daughter who forged presecriptions and the wife with the tears and victimhood concepts.

It’s not a pretty group. Jeb Bush may be of good character but he isn’t material for the Presidency and other GOP who promote him in that regard are just lost.

Lourdes on November 7, 2012 at 8:22 PM

independentvoice on November 7, 2012 at 7:54 PM

May I be the first to say take your leftist bulls**t and shove it where the sun don’t shine. Global warming is a hoax, so you lost any credibility right there. What will be found in 100 years is people will be saying, ’100 years ago people thought that they were making the planet warmer, ain’t that a hoot?”

We just ain’t in the mood. Go find somebody who cares

AZfederalist on November 7, 2012 at 8:22 PM

He did improve on McCain’s numbers —from 45% to 48% — but O still won a majority despite the abortion-rights jamboree at the convention and the contraception mandate. Catholic turnout was down two points this time, however.

Here’s a group directly attacked in the last four years by the regime. The very next election, their collective response?

“Thank you, Sir…may I have another?”

Unbelievable.

CycloneCDB on November 7, 2012 at 8:23 PM

Obviously, to reach younger voters, the next Republican candidate should be a good singer, play basketball, own a dog, have a killer smile and appear with Pimp with a Limp.

hepcat on November 7, 2012 at 8:23 PM

I think the GOP should say gay marriage and drugs are state issues and basically absorb the libertarians. I hate to say it but suck up the Ron Paul wing.

The GOP needs to become the party of personal and economic freedom. Of course gay marriage should be left to the states. My marriage license doesn’t say “United States of America” at the top. Gay marriage is coming, whether we like it or not. It’s not an issue worth turning away potential voters. If I have gay neighbors that are co-cohabitation, how is my life affected by the legal status of their relationship?

As far as the drug war goes, specifically marijuana legalization, that is also coming whether we like it or not. The issue is going to continue to hit state ballots, and will be passed in more and more states. The WOD is also a money pig which has done nothing to curb drug use in America. The GOP’s position could be to maintain the prohibition of drug trafficking into the country, and across state line (an appropriate application of the commerce clause), and everything else is up to the individual states.

It’s a return to federalism, which holds true to the principle of limited government.

HarryBackside on November 7, 2012 at 8:23 PM

Here’s a group directly attacked in the last four years by the regime. The very next election, their collective response?

“Thank you, Sir…may I have another?”

Unbelievable.

CycloneCDB on November 7, 2012 at 8:23 PM

Back to the theory that the electorate has simply become stupid.

MobileVideoEngineer on November 7, 2012 at 8:24 PM

This guy just keeps copying and pasting this same “comment” from thread to thread.

Sherman1864 on November 7, 2012 at 8:16 PM

That’s funny since I never posted that anywhere before. See ya later.

independentvoice on November 7, 2012 at 8:24 PM

PERRY!

El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 8:25 PM

Another thing that needs to be nationally confronted:

WHY does “reaching out to Hispanics/Latinos” ALWAYS MEAN “amnesty for illegal aliens who are Hispanic/Latino”?

We can reach-out all we want — I haven’t seen anyone on the Right who DOESN’T but now we’re told we “have to” do that — but until the Hispanic/Latino folks come clean on what they’re after as to this ongoing “movement,” the whole thing remains out of grasp.

Lourdes on November 7, 2012 at 8:25 PM

We just ain’t in the mood. Go find somebody who cares

AZfederalist on November 7, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Another HotAirian who KNOWS global warmiong is a hoax. Keep being an ostrich. Some day you’ll wake up. Maybe. Probably not though.

independentvoice on November 7, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Back to the theory that the electorate has simply become stupid.

MobileVideoEngineer on November 7, 2012 at 8:24 PM

When your daily political coverage amounts to “this new poll says” can you blame them? Republicans win when issues are being explained thoughtfully. Democrats win when everyone watches polls.

Hotair feel for it. Ace did. Everyone did.

lorien1973 on November 7, 2012 at 8:26 PM

@toddstarnes: WHPool: GOp tweeted they knocked on 75,00 doors in OH day before election. DNC knocked on 376,000.

And there it is.

donkichi on November 7, 2012 at 8:27 PM

There are suburban churches here that go into Downtown (especially North) Saint Louis,

And they made it out?

the issue is that given the racial make up of the suburbs and North Saint Louis it is sometimes hard to breakthrough and build relationships.

MobileVideoEngineer on November 7, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Won’t work, you’ll end up with liberal suburban kids who want all the priviledge you worked for and all the handouts they see others getting. And they’ll blame their rich, white, “fascist” parents just as bitterly as their new friends.

abobo on November 7, 2012 at 8:27 PM

WHY does “reaching out to Hispanics/Latinos” ALWAYS MEAN “amnesty for illegal aliens who are Hispanic/Latino”?

We can reach-out all we want — I haven’t seen anyone on the Right who DOESN’T but now we’re told we “have to” do that — but until the Hispanic/Latino folks come clean on what they’re after as to this ongoing “movement,” the whole thing remains out of grasp.

Lourdes on November 7, 2012 at 8:25 PM

I think a big first step would have been to not provoke Latinos into feeling attacked. Arizona mobilized the heck out of them. The msm told them that even citizens would be stopped, bothered, possibly deported.

Arizona may do nationally to the GOP what Prop 187 did to California GOP.

El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 8:27 PM

We got out hustled.

donkichi on November 7, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Obviously, to reach younger voters, the next Republican candidate should be a good singer, play basketball, own a dog, have a killer smile and appear with Pimp with a Limp.

hepcat on November 7, 2012 at 8:23 PM

If anything shows a spoiled, self indulgent bunch, that does.

America, where you have an import car by highschool, cell phones, games and lot o’ computing doodads by grade school and still need more.

I think we’re paying the price of having a lifestyle nationally that is just too easy.

Lourdes on November 7, 2012 at 8:28 PM

And then Romney went after Perry and Newt on immigration. Immigration was not the most important issue to Latinos yesterday, but looking like aholes cemented them against us. It was Meg Whitman all over.

El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 8:29 PM

So, now what?

Already it has started, Jeb Bush? Are you kidding me?

Here we go again, talking about who ‘we’ should and shouldn’t even consider to vote for next go round…

Oh, I won’t vote for him cuz or her cuz…(insert fav bias)…

Yeah, we lost.

Depend on the GOP to pull us thru? I don’t think so…

I am leaning toward telling the GOP to, as someone else mentioned, vote present on everydamnthing, and let the dems have at it.

Feel the pain!!

Elections Have Consequences…

Let them feel it…

Obama will have to do a complete turn around in order to ‘fix’ the economy, do we honestly believe for one split second he would do 1 thing that Romney said he was gonna do?

It’s in the ‘bag’ handwriting on the wall, we are so screwed, so let it be written, so let it be done…

Go for broke Obama, have at it!!

The sooner we realize the GOP is not our friend the better…

The GOPe WILL betray you!! H/T Dire :-)… You had it all along.

My friends, WTF do we do now?

Scrumpy on November 7, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Enforce the laws, secure the border, but don’t forget to “have a heart”

El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Hi Scrumpy.

Lanceman on November 7, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Jesus, how many modern election and legislative loses does it take before hard core righties stop taking the absolute opposite lessons to reality?

It’s because Mitt wasn’t conservative enough?! Are you kidding me? He spoke more openly and bravely about conservative goals and desires than any Republican nominee for decades. Bucked up on entitlement reform. Destroyed Obama in debates. Staked a pro-life, Traditional marriage, and no new taxes position.

But oh I get it, he just wasn’t forceful enough about it or something. He didn’t sound enough like a talk radio host, like Sarah Palin. So he was a RINO. If only we could have run a TRUE conservative. A hard ass warrior for Jesus and capitalism every thing would have been great! Someone who pulls no punches and will go to any length to cut down the democrats. It would have been a landslide!!!

Right… Folks, I’m sorry, and one day you’ll have to realize it and stop clinging to one single years old poll that says 60 something percent of the country are conservatives, and taking it to mean, “just like you” “conservatives”. There aren’t enough of you anymore. If we’d run Bachmann, Gingrich, Santorum, hell Palin, it would have been WORSE, not better guys, worse.

The American people want a government that functions, not one where one side is perpetually demanding to govern from the minority and will throw wrenches in the gears and stamp their feet and make any forward movement or compromise impossible just because it isn’t done your way, when you only have a hold on the lowest house of our federal government.

How many times does it take, or will you just stick to the same line until the Republican party finally gives you your firebrand and not only do they lose badly but it permanently harms your viable, important, seat at the table worthy cause?

Boomer_Sooner on November 7, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Lourdes on November 7, 2012 at 8:25 PM

I think a big first step would have been to not provoke Latinos into feeling attacked. Arizona mobilized the heck out of them. The msm told them that even citizens would be stopped, bothered, possibly deported.

Arizona may do nationally to the GOP what Prop 187 did to California GOP.

El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 8:27 PM

My impression is they’re irresponsible children frightened at the idea they may have to pay for their illegal acts in this nation or against it.

I support what AZ has been doing; if there’s any understanding that needs to be given, it’s for that state and their population and resources after years of being subjected to drug and human trafficking and every other awful deed that’s snuck across the state from Mexico and beyond.

Hispanics/Latinos who act “frightened” at the notion of being held responsible for their own actions simply reflect FAILED CIVILIZATOINS from whence they’ve come. It’s not what the US needs to be, it’s them who need to get with the nation or not sneak into it.

Lourdes on November 7, 2012 at 8:31 PM

The solution:

1. Raise voting age to 30, except for military
2. Allow only individuals with proper ID to vote
3. Eliminate public employee unions
4. Ban any union member’s dues going for political contributions

TXUS on November 7, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Enforce the laws, secure the border, but don’t forget to “have a heart”

El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 8:30 PM

“My, what a lovely tunnel you dug there, it reflects such conscientous effort! Can I take a picture to show my kids at home?”

Lourdes on November 7, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Hi Lanceman… :-)

Scrumpy on November 7, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Scrumpy on November 7, 2012 at 8:30 PM

I am 100% with you. I will continue to vote for conservatives, but when it comes to local matters and the like, I will cast my vote with the liberals. My town went 60%+ for 0, I am seething.

donkichi on November 7, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Enforce the laws, secure the border, but don’t forget to “have a heart”

El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 8:30 PM

“SO, OK, I WAS driving on the wrong side of the road but that other car over there in the ditch was driving faster than me!”

…there’s always an excuse…

Lourdes on November 7, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Oddly enough no one seems to care anymore.

rob verdi on November 7, 2012 at 8:03 PM

Well, I do. I hope you make it through okay.

Night Owl on November 7, 2012 at 8:35 PM

My impression is they’re irresponsible children frightened at the idea they may have to pay for their illegal acts in this nation or against it.

Could be very true, nothing we can do about it now.

El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 8:35 PM

You know, I don’t think history is going to be kind to John Roberts…

bofh on November 7, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Boomer_Sooner on November 7, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Maybe our ‘wake up’ call?

Somthing is rotten with our politics…

Somthing is wrong with our people…

One bad apple can rot the whole freaking barrel given enough time.

Scrumpy on November 7, 2012 at 8:37 PM

And then Romney went after Perry and Newt on immigration. Immigration was not the most important issue to Latinos yesterday, but looking like aholes cemented them against us. It was Meg Whitman all over.

El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 8:29 PM

Meg Whitman, done in by a crying theatrical act by a crying lady claiming to have been victimized because she “only” was paid an above-average hourly wage by Whitman?

Is all of Hispania ruled by soap operas? That’s a serious question.

Lourdes on November 7, 2012 at 8:37 PM

Is all of Hispania ruled by soap operas? That’s a serious question.

Lourdes on November 7, 2012 at 8:37 PM

Yes. LOL.

El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 8:38 PM

On the bright side, the Mayan Calendar ends in about six weeks… so there’s still hope to avoid the effects of Obama’s second term.

malclave on November 7, 2012 at 7:23 PM

Best reason I’ve heard for raising the debt ceiling.

socalcon on November 7, 2012 at 8:38 PM

If f*ckin bush had been president they’d say he let NY die. Meanwhile Obama is looking ‘presidential’ in the wake of this major disaster. Meanwhile people have no homes.

We’re fighting a two front war between the left and their high-tech ground game and the media airwaves. Tell me again how we can ever win?

The Count on November 7, 2012 at 8:39 PM

The solution:
1. Raise voting age to 30, except for military
2. Allow only individuals with proper ID to vote
3. Eliminate public employee unions
4. Ban any union member’s dues going for political contributions
TXUS on November 7, 2012 at 8:33 PM

There you go! What a great idea! Let’s change the voting age and disenfranchise millions of American citizens so a minority of people in the country can still win elections without having to alter their approach, adapt to the demographics of the country, or change anything about our collective my way or the highway attitude!

Gotta say though, gonna be kinda hard to do from the minority. Next time, maybe brainstorm something more reasonable, not to mention remotely possible and in line with the longstanding values or citizen participation in the American Republic.

Boomer_Sooner on November 7, 2012 at 8:39 PM

My impression is they’re irresponsible children frightened at the idea they may have to pay for their illegal acts in this nation or against it.

Could be very true, nothing we can do about it now.

El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 8:35 PM

WE CAN STOP REWARDING BAD BEHAVIOR.

“…just to win their vote” rationalization is just wrong on so many levels, it’s just wrong.

If they want another Mexico mess here to replace the US, more Colombia violence and all that dishonesty, well, I’ll never, not ever, vote for it here.

Lourdes on November 7, 2012 at 8:39 PM

One has to wonder if you think before you post.

libfreeordie on November 7, 2012 at 7:59 PM

And yet, your M.O. is transparent.

socalcon on November 7, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Lourdes on November 7, 2012 at 8:37 PM

Her maid didn’t do her in by itself though.

She also went hard right on immigration in the primary and then tried to flop left on the general and it was obvious. Her maid just highlighted her ‘hypocrisy’

El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Some are demonstrably true, though your generalizations are so widely flung as to be ludicrous.

hillbillyjim on November 7, 2012 at 8:01 PM

So which statements are demonstrably true? I say none are.

The mainstream media is biased (TRUE)
Majority of voters want to repeal Obamacare (TRUE)
Obamacare means death panels (TRUE)

Read the law including the fine print if you can decipher the bureaucratese and the circumlocutions; the IPAB and the Secretary of HHS have been given unprecedented authority to decide what will and will not be covered under the new scheme.

Of course finding reportage of this will be a challenge, thus underscoring the fact that the mainstream media is biased.

Most of your other broad-brushed generalizations are debatable. Your all-inclusive slurs are telling, especially when anyone who has spent any significant time reading comments here knows otherwise.

“Some” doesn’t come close to the Hot Air poster percentages who believe these things. Maybe 99% is more accurate than “all”, but my point stands. And where are the kernels of truth you’re referring to?

independentvoice on November 7, 2012 at 8:21 PM

99%? Really? You were better off without adding a number to your exaggerated blarney, as bad as it was from the start. This just exposes you further for the biased bloviating agitator that you seem intent on being.

hillbillyjim on November 7, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Another HotAirian who KNOWS global warmiong is a hoax. Keep being an ostrich. Some day you’ll wake up. Maybe. Probably not though.

independentvoice on November 7, 2012 at 8:26 PM

You mean Anthropogenic Global Cooling Warming? Amazing how the solution to such an absurdly complex problem boils down to “redistribution” and “global governance,” eh?

Good Solid B-Plus on November 7, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Yeah, the vote total will go up.Romney may just reach what McCain got but he should have done better given Bush’s 2004 total. Obama will not even match that. A month from now it will still be true, eligible voter turnout was way down this election.

Obama received at least 7 million less votes than in 2008. Allowing a couple of million for Sandy, which is high, that leaves 5 million. Based on exit polls these people are overwhelmingly over 30, white, married and voted for Obama in 08 cause they bought the hype. This year they decided they could not bring themselves to vote for Obama again but they did not like Romney enough to get off their butts and vote against Obama. What about Romney and his campaign caused this?

Rocks on November 7, 2012 at 8:42 PM

donkichi on November 7, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Sorry, but on the local level, I will not give dem/libs the time of day…

As for my State Oklahoma, we have a few fairly decent dems, our state realises that to get anything done we HAVE to be repub strong, with a sprinkling of dems thrown in for good measure…

Keeps us reasonably sane…

At the state level for me anyway, if it’s not broke, don’t fix it!

We, as a state seem to know how to fix things…

Scrumpy on November 7, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Just keep sending your kids to public Indoctrinate U schools — and we’ll keep getting what we’ve just gotten.

FlatFoot on November 7, 2012 at 8:42 PM

If f*ckin bush had been president they’d say he let NY die. Meanwhile Obama is looking ‘presidential’ in the wake of this major disaster. Meanwhile people have no homes.

We’re fighting a two front war between the left and their high-tech ground game and the media airwaves. Tell me again how we can ever win?

The Count on November 7, 2012 at 8:39 PM

OK, most of us by now understand that the LEftmedia is the biggest problem as to the Dems’ awful progression…so now we must do effective things to change that.

We should all start by complaining to advertisers and to the networks and organizations who comprise the LEftmedia.

It may not make much difference but consumer spending does tend to affect the infection over time. I notice StarBucks coffee is now on sale and running gimmicks in various stores so even a minor boycott of a brand/advertiser has an effect (Starbucks promotes ‘gay’ marriage among other things so some consumers boycott them).

Lourdes on November 7, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Conspiracy theorists and Ulsterman saing that 101% of all registered Floridians voted. Also full of other bizarre idea like Rove, may his name be erased,sabotaged Romney in order to run Jeb in 2016. Doom

clnurnberg on November 7, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Sounds like a race between the generations.

Bishop on November 7, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Very much so. The parents have surrendered their charges to the lefty public schools for the past 40-something years…America’s chickens, have come home…..Too Roost!

socalcon on November 7, 2012 at 8:43 PM

WE CAN STOP REWARDING BAD BEHAVIOR.

“…just to win their vote” rationalization is just wrong on so many levels, it’s just wrong.

If they want another Mexico mess here to replace the US, more Colombia violence and all that dishonesty, well, I’ll never, not ever, vote for it here.

Lourdes on November 7, 2012 at 8:39 PM

I agree with you.

I think our best shot now is to block any amnesty.

Latinos really do believe that Obama owes them big. It was the only thing that Univision was talking about. Every person they interviewed, “Obama owes us immigration reform now! No excuses! We delivered he has to deliver”

If Obama doesn’t deliver, I think they’ll be off the bandwagon and then Rubio can blame Obama in 2016 for not finding a compromise.

El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 8:43 PM

As someone who was one of the first 10,000 people on Facebook (I’m 29) I’ve come to hate Facebook over the last year. If idiots on Facebook can honestly change someone’s mind then that person has no principles whatsoever. All the idiots on Facebook did for me this election cycle was change my views on their intelligence and it wasn’t for the better.

MobileVideoEngineer on November 7, 2012 at 7:56 PM

It’s not as much about changing minds as it is about getting people engaged in the first place. I know that anecdote is not the singular form of data, but I have at least 5 friends who used to claim they were ‘apolitical,’ that voted for the first time this year, and they all voted for Obama.

We can’t ignore the youth vote.

Good Solid B-Plus on November 7, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Boomer_Sooner on November 7, 2012 at 8:31 PM
Maybe our ‘wake up’ call?
Somthing is rotten with our politics…
Somthing is wrong with our people…
One bad apple can rot the whole freaking barrel given enough time.
Scrumpy on November 7, 2012 at 8:37 PM

Yeah, it’s called a divisive media that thrives on conflict and telling their “customers” exactly what they want to hear so they’ll be rowled up, feeling put upon, and sure of victory and themselves no matter the truth or reality.

What was that constant dismissing phrase that bit republicans in the ass this cycle again, posited consistently and constantly by those who wanted you to keep coming back to click tomorrow? “What was the sample breakdown? Oh no, folks there’s no way that’s real. The big bad media is teaming up against us and lying to depress your enthusiasm! Don’t worry! Here look at Rasmussen! See?! Trust only them, AND us. And be sure to tune in tomorrow, click the links, and have you heard about my new sleep number bed?! It’s incredible and they just paid me a sh*t ton of money to hawk it to you, my faithful listeners. I’m sooo grateful for you!”

Sorry, after a day of listening to bullsh*t rationalizations to dismiss reality, I’m starting to get fed up.

Boomer_Sooner on November 7, 2012 at 8:45 PM

In sum, our best bet at winning Latinos is blocking amnesty, and giving them 4 more years of Obama’s economy… if I were going to cave, as an offer of goodwill, I’d offer dreamer’s work permits in exchange for E-Verify and crack down on sanctuary cities.

El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 8:46 PM

I heard a bunch of interviews of college kids this morning about the election. Let me tell you, this country is doomed even if the dogeater wasn’t reelected. These losers couldn’t string together five words coherently but yet they felt it was their duty to vote. Low info voters? I submit to you that these were no info voters. I know it’s not the entire generation. Many of us have kids that are perfectly productive members of society, but I’m willing to bet those turds in the gene pool outnumber our kids 100 to one.

We’ve lost the republic.

Lost in Jersey on November 7, 2012 at 8:46 PM

My friends, WTF do we do now?

Scrumpy on November 7, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Destroy the LameStreamMedia.

JPeterman on November 7, 2012 at 8:47 PM

Lourdes on November 7, 2012 at 8:37 PM

Her maid didn’t do her in by itself though.

She also went hard right on immigration in the primary and then tried to flop left on the general and it was obvious. Her maid just highlighted her ‘hypocrisy’

El_Terrible on November 7, 2012 at 8:40 PM

No, El_Terrible, IT WAS THE MAID THEATRICAL SOAP OPERA that the LeftMedia promoted. Up until that, she was leading in polls.

IT was that theatrical exploit that did her in. And I repeat, it’s not US who have a problem with “immigration,” it’s unqualified people who sneak into our nation illegally who have a problem. The sooner they start getting that, that they’re responsible for their wrong actions and bad situaitons, the better.

Not being firm against that bad character and resulting crimes has led to a festering bunch of people in the US who hate everyone else, or close to it, certainly resent most, and “feel” they “have to” be rewarded with various privileges just because of their ethnicity.

Lourdes on November 7, 2012 at 8:47 PM

Boomer_Sooner on November 7, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Blah blah…didn’t want to waste space reposting all that drivel.
Sorry, but I just have to ask, what the F*** are you talking about?

When has Obama NOT been able to get his way?
He passed Obamacare.
He passed the huge porkulus.
He stopped deportations and gave amnesty by executive order.
He stopped the Keystone pipeline.
He restricted oil drilling.
He rejected every single budget proposed by Republicans.
He blew through the debt ceiling. Twice.

You say Republicans refuse to “compromise”…but has Obama been willing to compromise with Republicans on ANYTHING?

You might say.. he would be willing to “compromise” and reduce spending..BIG WHOOP…he HAS to. He has NO F**KING choice. But he’s using what he has to do anyway to blackmail Republicans into accepting a tax increase. Why should Republicans bend over?

tkyang99 on November 7, 2012 at 8:47 PM

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