Looking at the national exit poll

posted at 7:21 pm on November 7, 2012 by Allahpundit

I know you’re polled out, but with all the navel-gazing today about demographics and the future of the GOP, I figured people might want a link to the numbers behind last night’s disaster. Here’s CNN’s version, Fox News’s version, and WaPo’s version, which breaks the trend lines down by arrows. (Mouse over for the numbers.) Noteworthy: The sample does apparently include respondents from all 50 states. There was some question about that after news broke last month that the exit pollster would exclude voters in 19 states, but WaPo reported at the time that that was only true of individual state-level exits. The master poll at the national level would incorporate people from everywhere, so it should be a decent yardstick for comparison against 2008.

One question I’m seeing in the comments is, “Did evangelicals turn out for Romney”? Yep, looks that way. Turnout among Protestants generally dropped slightly from 2008 (54% to 53%) but Romney’s share of the vote increased from 54% to 57%. Among white evangelicals specifically, turnout was steady at 26% of the electorate from four years ago and Romney took 78% of the vote compared to just 74% for McCain. If you’d rather slice the data by how often people go to church, the number who attend at least weekly rose from 39% in 2008 to 42% this time. McCain won 55% of that group. Romney won 59%. He improved on McCain’s numbers among Jewish voters too, from 21% of the vote in 2008 to 30% this time (or maybe more), the highest take for a Republican since 1988. If there’s any religious group that underperformed for him, it’s Catholics. He did improve on McCain’s numbers — from 45% to 48% — but O still won a majority despite the abortion-rights jamboree at the convention and the contraception mandate. Catholic turnout was down two points this time, however.

The interest in the comments in evangelicals, I think, is due to people looking at Romney’s popular vote total and wondering where all the votes went. McCain won just shy of 60 million votes in 2008. As I’m writing this, Politico’s popular vote tracker has Romney at 57.6 million. Where’d all the votes go? Possible answer: Nowhere. They’re out there, they just haven’t been counted yet, says John Podhoretz:

As I write, Mitt Romney has 57.4 million votes. John McCain ended up with 59.9 million. It’s a little noticed fact that in two weeks following every presidential election, votes continue to be reported…by the millions. As I recall, Barack Obama got something like four million more votes in the weeks after election day, while John McCain got two or three million. It’s likely that by Thanksgiving, the final vote tally will show Romney very close to or even slightly exceeding McCain’s total.

Could be that Romney turned out more than McCain, just not as many as O. This was always the challenge for Mitt: Obama won in 2008 with nearly 10 million more votes than McCain did, so he could afford to have millions of apathetic liberals stay home and still win. The lingering question is why Romney couldn’t turn out millions more Republicans to close the gap. I have no answers. Maybe the GOP in its current form has effectively maxed out national turnout. Or maybe they’re losing voters faster than they can replace them. The advantage of relying heavily on senior citizens, as the GOP does, is that they turn out reliably on election day. The disadvantage is, er, that they die, just as 18-year-olds — most of whom are pro-Obama — are coming onto the rolls. In fact, Romney won with the 54% of the electorate that was aged 45 or older. But thanks to Obama’s margin with younger voters, it wasn’t enough:

Obama actually won the 45-64 age group in 2008 (50/49) and he won younger voters by a bigger margin then (66/32) than he did this time. But it didn’t matter; the most eye-popping result from the entire exit poll, I think, is the fact that turnout among voters aged 18-29 actually increased this time (18% to 19%) from the Hopenchange-y zeitgeist moment of 2008. The sickest irony of yesterday’s result is that young voters, who have the most to lose from Democratic resistance to entitlement reform, are possibly the voters most responsible for ensuring O’s second term. More from Kristen Soltis:

Another revealing data point about the young blue electorate:

Other numbers? Romney won independents nationally by five and by similar margins in key states, but thanks to Obama’s amazing turnout effort (D+6!), it wasn’t enough. As you’ve likely heard, he lost Latinos 71/27 this time after McCain lost them 67/31; Latino turnout was also up a point nationally and may very well have won Florida for Obama. (Between that and the fact that 65% of voters sampled say illegals should be given a chance to apply for legal status, a GOP cave on immigration reform is all but assured.) As you’ve likely not heard, Obama won Asians by nearly the same margin as Latinos, 73/26, an 11-point improvement on how he did in 2008. (Asian turnout as a percentage of the electorate also increased by a point.) It’s not obvious to me what Romney or the GOP did policy-wise to alienate Asians specifically, but the perception that they’re “the white party” might be enough. Hence the agony among Republican analysts about the demographics in the exits.

This election was about the economy, though, wasn’t it? How’d Mitt do with that? Answer: Not so good.

A 10-point loss on the crucial issue of unemployment. On the question of who’d be better for the economy, Romney won by just one point, possibly because a plurality was convinced that things are getting better:

Hard to win an “economy election” if not even one-third of voters think conditions are deteriorating on election day. Hard to win too if you can’t crack 40% on the incumbent in this metric:

Finally, one more surprising detail about when people decided:

Romney lost every range except … September? September was the month of the “47 percent,” when he was getting pounded daily by Team O and fell behind in the national polls by four points. It was the low point of the campaign for him. The Mile High Massacre at the first debate that brought him back to life happened on October 3. What I think you’re seeing in the data here is people misremembering when the first debate was; they know it was “a long time ago” and that they made up their mind for Romney afterward, so they’re guessing it was September. As for the true late deciders, though, I’ve been resisting the explanation that Obama’s paint-by-numbers approach to looking “presidential” during a hurricane really could have swung some votes for him but it’s hard not to think so after looking at this. In fact, if you can believe it, 42% of voters claimed that Obama’s hurricane response was “important” to their vote (they broke 68/31 for O) and 64 percent said it was a “factor” (62/36 for O). And thus did a political career charmed by unbelievable luck get the luckiest break of all. I’ll leave you with this, from an apolitical friend of mine in NYC who e-mailed me last night in utter frustration at the result: “serious, hurricane sandy is actually factoring in in this election. If f*ckin bush had been president they’d say he let NY die. Meanwhile Obama is looking ‘presidential’ in the wake of this major disaster. Meanwhile people have no homes.” Anger at media bias — it’s not just for political junkies anymore.

Update: A friend e-mails with a good point about those late deciders. Maybe Romney won September because of Benghazi. Watching terrorists overrun a barely defended U.S. consulate and murder the ambassador surely did swing a few votes against the Foreign Policy President. But if that’s true and the September data above is accurate, then it may also mean that my theory about people misremembering is wrong and that Romney’s big comeback at the first debate may have helped him less than we thought.


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Nice pic of the candidate. It captures the essence of his self-presentation: Harmless, nice, inoffensive, nonagressive. Good choice. Electable.

SurferDoc on November 8, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Mitt sucked so bad……….they spent a billion dollars and flipped what two states?

And got fewer votes than Palin and the old white guy she ran with!

MITTSUCKEDPALOOZA!!!

PappyD61 on November 8, 2012 at 11:27 AM

Well, when the Romney GOTV operation brags about knocking on 75,000 doors in OH on the final weekend and the Obama GOTV knocked on over 350,000 doors in the same period, then you just got flat-out outworked.

Not sure Reince Preibus is ready for prime time.

gumbyandpokey on November 8, 2012 at 11:33 AM

The GOP is dead to me. Came over in 2004 for W, but after McCain and Mittens I’m done.

Can’t go back to the Donks – they lost me after 9/11.

I’ll waste my vote on the Libertarians with a clean conscious next time around.

Bruno Strozek on November 7, 2012 at 10:33 PM

If Mitt Romney really believes in America–and I think he does–he will get together with Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Dennis Miller, et al. and hammer out a solidly conservative platform for a third party.

They could have it done in time for the 2014 House and Senate races; most certainly they can do it by 2016.

Mr. Romney, are you truly conservative? If you would do this, thereby making it clear that you have committed yourself to solidly conservative ideology, I would vote for you again. If you cannot, then stand down and support the person who would lead such a party.

It is time for a third party. A party that has as its leaders strong people who will not capitulate to the leftists whose goal is to destroy America.

Leaders without egos; who can withstand the assault of a media who will attempt to crucify their reputations.

Leaders who will stand up to a ideologically corrupt Supreme Court; passing laws over and over again until the SC understands that the people want a moral society built upon the rule of law: the Constitution of the United State as the framers intended it, not some postmodern fantasia of shifting “fairness.”

Leaders who care not one whit about a body of nations infiltrated by third world dictators and Godless superpowers that think they can dictate to the sovereign United States of America and its citizens how to conduct our affairs.

Where are you leaders who can lead from the front? Who can make America what she needs to be, for her citizens and for the world.

(Faux libertarians need not apply.)

davidk on November 8, 2012 at 11:07 AM

And I would add: Leaders who respect the Tenth Amendment.

http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/

davidk on November 8, 2012 at 11:34 AM

The Republicans CAN connect with minorities. They just need to show them they care like Bush did with Latino.
Too many conservative white man disrespects minorities without even realizing it. Working with minorities isn’t pandering to them or giving them preferential treatment. The solution starts with the conservative white man.
Why do single white women vote Democrat? It’s because they are more open minded until they get married to some conservative white men and start voting in line with their husbands (thus the gap between single and married white women).
Some conservative white men aren’t willing to open up to minorities. They will make sure any House or Senate Republican that introduces a pro minority bill is thrown out in the next primary (reason Republicans Congress are afraid of dealing with minority issues).

Quite few conservative white men need an attitude change toward the majority of HARD WORKING minorities (black, Latino, Asian, other immigrant) that came to America to earn a living and raise their children to be somebody. They want to be included and respected, not treated like thugs, criminals, lazy food stamps seeking group (there are many white that fit that label…exists in all ethnic groups).
Asian Americans are well off and still voted for democrats because they are willing to address their issues and RESPECT them. The typical red state conservative white man doesn’t.

Why did Mia Love lose an election in a state where Republicans win in their sleep? Because too many conservative white men couldn’t dare vote for her. That attitude has to change because the minority vote will be rising for years to come.

Condi Rice hard work did not change that attitude. Marco Rubio or Cruz will not change that attitude…It has to come NATURALLY from within.

jules on November 8, 2012 at 11:35 AM

so on the conservative blogs the obama datameisters are spinning dissent like crazy.
romney was not conservative enough. the conservative platform just needs some tweaks its just not quite there.. this one made me think about what the flood of blog comments was really about…

they are literally flooding the blogs all working for obama to confuse and divide the commentors.

its a huge problem thats keeping people from figuring things out.

his data operation is like no other.

mrks on November 8, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Two points:

As for the missing voters, since this was posted, it has gone up to just under 57.8 for Romney. The linked national map posted on Politico, has indications of many states’ tallies that are not as yet complete.

For example, out on the West Coast, the State of Washington only has [55.5% reported]; Oregon has [92.8% reported]; and Nevada has [98.5% reported] of (I presume) precincts. Montana has only [93.6% reported].

And several states have not completed their counting here in the Northeast either, which is the most populous portion of the nation (approximately 1/4th of the nation’s population lives along the I-95 Corridor), though with much smaller percentages in each yet outstanding.

These include Maine [90.7 reported]; New Hampshire [99.7 reported]; New York [98.2% reported]; Massachusetts [99.9% reported]; Connecticut [95.6% reported]; Rhode Island [98.3% reported]; Pennsylvania [99.7% reported]; New Jersey [98.2% reported]; Maryland 99.8% reported; Virginia [99.9% reported].

In the Mid-West several states are missing fraction amounts, such as Michigan [96.5% reported], and a few others with very small amounts still out, including Minnesota, Illinois, Indiana, and Wisconsin.

So, the total number of reported R votes may approach the 2008 total when all the votes are counted. I still think this is a surprise.

Second point: Younger voters (especially those under 30), those who unfortunately had little or experience to compare his performance in office to his predecessors over time, were still the ones who turned out in large percentages for Obama and threw the election to him.

The tragedy is that they will ultimately bear the burden of the economic wasteland that he is so busily fostering with his Fabian socialist agenda.

A middle class simply cannot be built on government workers. The overall economic success of the second half of the 20th Century, and the upward mobility of the middle class was built on corporate and small business competitiveness. That was what allowed us to compete with, and ultimately prevail over the threat posed by the statist Soviet model.

Trochilus on November 8, 2012 at 11:38 AM

It’s all about the GOTV. If the GOP wants to survive, it needs to fix that starting today. Some heads in RNC need to roll.

Red Creek on November 8, 2012 at 11:39 AM

Keep it simple.

How many registered Republicans did not vote?

Now that we know the RNC can not do the job of getting out the vote they have to be fired and we have to find a way to do the job without or inspite of them.

Vote turn out boot camp.

Have trial vote days, train ourselves to get the vote out.

State by State, city by city, county by county, pricent by pricent.

There are only 25% of the U.S. who are commie Democrats, the stinkey tail is wagging U.S. all around.

We are the fools for allowing the RNC lasy ass’s to do this to U.S..

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 8, 2012 at 11:43 AM

We shall see if the Bishops (and Pope Benedict) are serious about closing Catholic hospitals and charities when the ObamaCare Baby-Killing Mandates kick in. If they are, watch for Obama to attempt to nationalize the buildings. If they are not, the Church will take another blow to its credibility, one it may not survive.

Adjoran on November 7, 2012 at 10:15 PM

I am quite sure of Pope Benedict’s seriousness in this issue. I think a lot of marginal and liberal Catholics figure he’ll cave. And I’d look for the Catholic Church in the United States to go underground eventually, similar to what is happening in China — there’s the “official” state-sponsored, small-c catholic church and then there’s real one, underground, for which a Chinese person can be thrown in prison for attending.

PatriotGal2257 on November 7, 2012 at 10:29 PM

Liberals in the American Catholic Church have been hankering for a schism since before Vat II.

Pope Benedict XVI was clear in that we are to become a smaller and purer church, both in action,governance and liturgy.

The USCCB will take the case to SCOTUS but are preparing for an unfavorable outcome and preparing their congregations for civil disobedience.

His instruction is to maintain a consistent protest against marginalization and insist on the traditional role of religious principle of influence founded in this country against the push of socialist secularism which promotes social discord and moral decay.

In short…Pope Benedict XVI has been steadily purging the liberals and replacing them with conservatives and if the RCC loses numbers in the pews he’s prepared for it.

The Pope is fighting this battle inside and outside the RCC and laying the groundwork for his conservative successor to right the bark of St. Peter and consolidate the Faithful.

He’s drawn a line in the sand.

I hope to see public excommunications of those prominent cultural catholics who confuse and undermine Catholicism and I don’t care if these are mocked by the media, they may serve their ancient purpose of instruction.

I hope to see public expulsion from the RCC of heretics.

I hope to see a continued and consistently thorough defrocking,dissolution and expulsion of Clergy who abuse their role in any fashion.

I hope he continues reforming the seminaries.

I hope he continues to disenfranchise Catholic Institutions who are in open rebellion.

I hope to see he continues reforming the college of cardinals.

I hope to see he continues to encourage clear instruction.

Pope Benedict XVI is the most formidable theologian the RCC has seen in a long time and this is a good thing since clerical and liturgical abuses heightened as a result of the turbulent 1960′s. He is fair but tough.

The degradation within the RCC reflects the culture just as any other institution does but this can and must be corrected.

The steady erosion of Papal authority through the abuse of dissent by mostly liberals,and ultraconservatives will end and this is the Pope to do it.

Let those Catholics who disagree with a traditional Catholicism that unites us leave the RCC and join an one of the other christian denominations as an alternative instead of trying to water down the RCC to please the fickle culture.

workingclass artist on November 8, 2012 at 11:45 AM

Trochilus on November 8, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Thanks for the link.

Way too many people blaming this on a turnout fail due to a bad candidate and completely missing the bigger picture of what actually happened.

BadgerHawk on November 8, 2012 at 11:46 AM

BadgerHawk on November 8, 2012 at 10:52 AM

The vast majority of 2008 voters who stayed home in 2012 are “White Voters”, around 10 millions of them stayed home in 2012 compared to 2008, and since we have an edge in “White Voters” (60% for us 40% of them) then we certainly can win the next elections if we get them out to vote.

I think the solution is to increase our edge among “White Voters” to 65% and 70% and increase our edge among “Latinos” from 27% to 40%…

mnjg on November 8, 2012 at 11:48 AM

We shall see if the Bishops (and Pope Benedict) are serious about closing Catholic hospitals and charities when the ObamaCare Baby-Killing Mandates kick in. If they are, watch for Obama to attempt to nationalize the buildings. If they are not, the Church will take another blow to its credibility, one it may not survive.

Adjoran on November 7, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Current discussion seems to be whether we should close down systematically with clear justification.

Or dissent through public protest and refusal.

Or force the US Government to publicly seize and therefore steal the institutions.

(Cardinal George described this as theft through governmental abuse of authority which is a common tactic throughout church history.)

Could be any or all of these.

The Catholics and the clergy expect and are preparing for persecution in America and for this to be very public not quiet.

workingclass artist on November 8, 2012 at 11:53 AM

Voter turn out.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 8, 2012 at 11:55 AM

People have to vote for the vote to count.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 8, 2012 at 11:56 AM

How many registered Republicans did not vote?

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 8, 2012 at 11:56 AM

RW Wacko on November 8, 2012 at 8:11 AM

I am an immigrant from a third world country. The Democrats’ approach is that of third world country politics. When my family came here we automatically became Democrats. I’m not proudly admitting that, by the way. Immigrants come here thinking they are poor. Democrats tell us the Republicans are for the rich. As time went on, I for one, figured it out, Democrats want to keep you poor. I myself, don’t understand the party loyalty. I think that these very people work very hard and don’t have the time to follow politics. They are tired of politics. They think, like their country of origin, that all politicians lie. And so, they just keep voting their original party affiliation – the party for the poor. And this goes back to my point, Republicans need to reach these sub-cultures. These people consistently have gatherings, ie. dinner dances, picnics, parades, etc. Republicans need to court these people. Their values are Republican values. They belong under the Republican umbrella.

Cpoy2 on November 8, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Vote or die.

Keep it simple.

We can come up with 10,000 things..

Only one thing counts,, turn out on vote day.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 8, 2012 at 11:58 AM

If the GOP establishment continues to pick our nominees, then we need a third party.

Danielvito on November 8, 2012 at 9:38 AM

We have a winner! Give that man a Kewpie doll.

Wino on November 8, 2012 at 11:59 AM

We have the numbers, we have the correct message, we have the facts, only thing we do not have is turn out on vote days.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 8, 2012 at 11:59 AM

Even the msm can not make a person stay home on vote day, no matter how many lies, no matter how the tip the thing to commie Democrats the msm can not keep a person home and not voteing.

Only we can prevent the death of the U.S. by getting out and vote, vote, vote ,, vote.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 8, 2012 at 12:02 PM

mnjg on November 8, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Yeah, that’s a potential solution for four years from now, IF you can both increase turnout AND support from latinos. Big if.

The white voters who sat this one out are Obama voters from 2008 who obviously aren’t onboard with the GOP. Face it; if this election, after the past four years, couldn’t get those voters to the polls, it’s likely nothing will.

The composition of white voters is shifting too. Single women are becoming a larger percentage of the electorate. 20 million people who were alive in 2008 are dead now; rough math suggests about 6 million of those voted for McCain. They’re slowly being replaced by reliable democratic voters.

So even if we manage to squeak one of four years from now, the unerlying shifts in the electorate create a much, much bigger problem.

BadgerHawk on November 8, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Thanks for the link.

Way too many people blaming this on a turnout fail due to a bad candidate and completely missing the bigger picture of what actually happened.

BadgerHawk on November 8, 2012 at 11:46 AM

I just looked at that map and clicked on Pennsylvania and Philidelphia County is just obscene. It’s no wonder PA is always seen as fools gold for Republicans. 557,000 to 92,000 with 1.4% still to be counted? 85% to 14%? Detroit and Saint Louis City aren’t even that lopsided.

MobileVideoEngineer on November 8, 2012 at 12:09 PM

I just looked at that map and clicked on Pennsylvania and Philidelphia County is just obscene. It’s no wonder PA is always seen as fools gold for Republicans. 557,000 to 92,000 with 1.4% still to be counted? 85% to 14%? Detroit and Saint Louis City aren’t even that lopsided.

MobileVideoEngineer on November 8, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Of course I meant Philadelphia County

MobileVideoEngineer on November 8, 2012 at 12:10 PM

We have the numbers, we have the correct message, we have the facts, only thing we do not have is turn out on vote days.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 8, 2012 at 11:59 AM

We don’t have the numbers. If this election – with 5 trillion in new debt, 8% U3 unemployment, a dead ambassador, an assault on religion, Obamacare… – couldn’t get those people to show up, then nothing will.

BadgerHawk on November 8, 2012 at 12:11 PM

35% of U.S. conservative by say so.
25% of U.S. liberal by say so.

40% of U.S. moderate by say so. I say these are more likley more conservative they just do not want the commie msm or the local thug Democrats calling them names in the mall. So they report as moderate and would vote R given they get motivated to vote.

Number one problem, RNC and ourselves not getting out our voters.

Easy if we just do the job.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 8, 2012 at 12:12 PM

We have the numbers, we have the correct message, we have the facts, only thing we do not have is turn out on vote days.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 8, 2012 at 11:59 AM

We don’t have the numbers. If this election – with 5 trillion in new debt, 8% U3 unemployment, a dead ambassador, an assault on religion, Obamacare… – couldn’t get those people to show up, then nothing will.

BadgerHawk on November 8, 2012 at 12:11 PM

That’s better. Sorry about that.

BadgerHawk on November 8, 2012 at 12:13 PM

RW Wacko on November 8, 2012 at 8:11 AM

I am an immigrant from a third world country. The Democrats’ approach is that of third world country politics. When my family came here we automatically became Democrats. I’m not proudly admitting that, by the way. Immigrants come here thinking they are poor. Democrats tell us the Republicans are for the rich. As time went on, I for one, figured it out, Democrats want to keep you poor. I myself, don’t understand the party loyalty. I think that these very people work very hard and don’t have the time to follow politics. They are tired of politics. They think, like their country of origin, that all politicians lie. And so, they just keep voting their original party affiliation – the party for the poor. And this goes back to my point, Republicans need to reach these sub-cultures. These people consistently have gatherings, ie. dinner dances, picnics, parades, etc. Republicans need to court these people. Their values are Republican values. They belong under the Republican umbrella.

Cpoy2 on November 8, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Indeed…and people like you can help with educating your neighbors as to the interests shared with conservatives for common prosperity and combat the socialist cynicism of Class Warfare that promotes ideology over common sense.

Conservatives are not anti-immigrant we are pro-lawful immigration for practical and ideological reasons that ensure protection for immigrants as well as a solid community support system(s) that enable them to succeed to become responsible and contributing citizens.

We can only do is with effective security and reform of immigration process and integration into citizenship.

Citizenship is a privilege and a responsibility for all of us…not a right to be claimed simply through arrival.

We are either an American nation of laws that apply equally to each of us or we are a Europeanized nation of class preference and resentment based on a fickle standard that changes with corrupted cultural whims.

workingclass artist on November 8, 2012 at 12:14 PM

So, BadgerHawk,

You are a non fighter Badger nor a Hawk that would fight for a meal or what.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 8, 2012 at 12:14 PM

Thing is the wrong people have the job of getting out the votes.

It is our job, our personal responsibility, not the RNC or the State Party or your local County Republican Committee.

We have to do it ourselves.

No other choice.

Blame the RNC does not one thing to get one more voter out to vote.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 8, 2012 at 12:16 PM

MobileVideoEngineer on November 8, 2012 at 12:09 PM

That’s what I’m saying. The math simply doesn’t add up anymore.

Romney won independents and the enthusiasm gap, in polls which ended up being pretty accurate, and still lost.

He had nearly every fundamental going his way. No incumbent should have won under these circumstances – but Obama did.

The Dem base is simply too big in the states that matter.

BadgerHawk on November 8, 2012 at 12:19 PM

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 8, 2012 at 12:14 PM

I’m a realist. Fighting reality never ends well.

You have to acknowledge it, adapt and overcome.

Blaming this loss on a turnout fail misses what really happens and delays an eventual solution.

BadgerHawk on November 8, 2012 at 12:21 PM

The Dem base is only 25% of the U.S. they get out and vote.

Union’s do the leg work.

The RNC sits on its ass and talks a good game and in fact does squat.

Karl Rove is a 100% pure fake and just sits up there collectiong $.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 8, 2012 at 12:22 PM

Let’s stop buying into Ann Coulter’s hogwash. Romney was a lousy candidate. And one good debate performance (which he only won because Obama didn’t attack him that night), doesn’t change that fact.

We all knew for months and months that he had no ability to inspire, was robotic, and completely unable to relate to normal people. We knew this for a long time. The “I like firing people” quotes didn’t just come out 3 weeks ago, you know.

We all knew this going in. But we let one debate and a few bad polls delude us, this should teach us a lesson for the future. A bad candidate is a bad candidate.

tkyang99 on November 8, 2012 at 12:25 PM

BadgerHawk,

So, you gave up, so what.

I have been cut off with just 11 other good men.

100 Red Commie killers on all sides.

I am still here, they are no longer commie.

It is very simple, we have the numbers, the truth, the facts, the best voters, the real America, only problem is who does the job of getting out the vote. For sure your not a good one for that job.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 8, 2012 at 12:25 PM

If the conservatives all voted, and just 1/2 of the moderates voted, the country would be 90% ruled by Republicans.

It is turn out pure and simple.

Not enough commies to do the job if they faced the real numbers on our side.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 8, 2012 at 12:29 PM

It is turn out pure and simple.

Not enough commies to do the job if they faced the real numbers on our side.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 8, 2012 at 12:29 PM

You’re exactly right. I don’t agree with what they did, but many, many conservatives simply tuned out and stayed home.

Think back folks. Is there one thing that Romney said through the entire campaign that sticks out in your mind? One thing…?

labrat on November 8, 2012 at 12:41 PM

This election was socialism vs capitalism, self sufficiency vs wards of the state, grasshoppers vs ants and the grasshoppers won.
Romney was Brilliant and masterful in explaining the principles of our great nation and raising money that almost equaled the Obama machine. He was our best chance at winning and we only got 32 of our Rs to 38 of Dems for a D+6 in this election year – outrageous. I would rather lose with him then win with the other side.

Some people just want free stuff and only care about themselves. Union workers (like my brother) only care about “what puts food on my table!!!) with little or no thought about the America they are leaving their kids. And, of course, Obama has ABC, CBS, NBC and especially CNN (Candy) to cover up for him. These News organizations went out of their way to slam Mitt on everything and refuse to do their jobs on Fast and Furious, The Economy and Benghazi.

I can not do this anymore. My wife and I are not rich but we are according to the Prez and will have our taxes raised. Well I am taking action. With College expenses and higher taxes, higher gasoline and less salary something has to give. It will be charity for us both to the Church and the charities we support. Sorry, I hope Obama makes up the difference but I now have to worry about my kids getting a good education and regretably “what puts food on my table.

Natebo on November 8, 2012 at 12:41 PM

ApachewhoKnows is right: a turn out of ALL of the Conservatives and some of the Moderates wins.

SurferDoc on November 8, 2012 at 12:44 PM

The Dem base is simply too big in the states that matter.

BadgerHawk on November 8, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Yes, it is a simple as that. Critical mass has been reached and there is no turning back.Republicans moving to the left is not going to help (or matter), shedding social conservatives will not help either. I feel at this point there is nothing to do until the current system burns to the ground and then rebuild from the ashes. In the meantime we can focus on local politics.

neuquenguy on November 8, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Romney – Doesn’t reach out to Tea Party – Fail

SurferDoc on November 8, 2012 at 12:45 PM

The lingering question is why Romney couldn’t turn out millions more Republicans to close the gap. I have no answers.

My take. The Tea Party turned out in force as a reaction to Obamacare in 2010. Mitt was the wrong person to motivate the troops to go vote for him and his promise to repeal Obamacare. Remember ORomneycare? That is why he couldn’t produce the turnout he needed.
No doubt he is a good man but for the good of the nation he should have realised that this was not his time and his battle to fight. Do as I say, not as I do sums it up for me. That does not instill trust in the people you want to lead.

jims on November 8, 2012 at 12:50 PM

If the conservatives all voted, and just 1/2 of the moderates voted, the country would be 90% ruled by Republicans.

It is turn out pure and simple.

Not enough commies to do the job if they faced the real numbers on our side.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 8, 2012 at 12:29 PM

Well, then it seems there are a lot of conservatives and moderates that have no problem with being ruled by corrupt liberal politicians, they are irrelevant.

neuquenguy on November 8, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Let’s stop buying into Ann Coulter’s hogwash. Romney was a lousy candidate. And one good debate performance (which he only won because Obama didn’t attack him that night), doesn’t change that fact.

We all knew for months and months that he had no ability to inspire, was robotic, and completely unable to relate to normal people. We knew this for a long time. The “I like firing people” quotes didn’t just come out 3 weeks ago, you know.

We all knew this going in. But we let one debate and a few bad polls delude us, this should teach us a lesson for the future. A bad candidate is a bad candidate.

tkyang99 on November 8, 2012 at 12:25 PM

The failure lies with party denial and strategy based on this denial.

Romney handed an important voting bloc to the opposition through a failure to attract them through commonalities.

He did this during the primary.

His scorched earth rhetoric on immigration gave them the ammo to unite these immigrants into a racial divide.

He should have focused on Border Security for the shared common ground of safety of citizens on both sides of the border.

He should have communicated immigration reform that is constructive economically and re-enforces legal protections against exploitation.

This isn’t amnesty. It’s important to have a unified and workable solution that is an alternative to empty liberal promises and divisive tactics.

Our side needs to be realistic and consistent in both approach and application because we are being flooded and those folks bring their cultural experience with them which is exactly what the democrats exploit successfully and the Liberals have a socialist apparatus of Unions,Racial Grievance Organizations and Political Community Organizers to promote the familiar.

Republicans have to adapt strategy and persuade with more than churches and business associations.

workingclass artist on November 8, 2012 at 12:54 PM

jules on November 8, 2012 at 11:35 AM

I won’t deny that a large number of people, perhaps more young people than others, tend to believe the rubbish you posted above about white males attitudes in general on the subject of race.

But it is rubbish, none the less. Yes, there will always be a few bigots out there . . . and in any ethnic or racial group. For example, we’ve recently seen an alarming number of expressions based on out-and-out bigotry, which were openly posted by Obama supporters on public websites — such as the huge number of racially-charged death threats against Romney posted on Twitter, when the polls indicated he was doing well a few weeks back.

So, I don’t know whether you pulled your generalizations out of thin air, or not. My guess would be that you have been spoon-fed that trash by someone else, and somehow feel free to regurgitate it here in the form of generalizations.

But I’ve been around long enough, and in a sufficient number of institutional settings in my life — army, educational, work world — to have a pretty damned solid idea about white male attitudes on race and ethnicity. My guess is that they are no different, percentage-wise, than any other group. You, of course, cite no support for your generalizations.

I’d also add that no one in this country has been more consistently provocative on matters of race than this President, and his supporters. He signaled it right from the start back in 2008, and has never let it go. He had to call a “beer summit” to take the sting out of one particularly obnoxious prejudgment he made about the situation. He apparently believes that there is a benefit to barely concealed racial undercurrent, and that it pays political dividends to play the race card. Certainly many of his followers do as well.

Perhaps it has paid dividends, but that certainly doesn’t make it right. Though he promised to be a “uniter,” he has consistently looked for ways to divide people. And he never hesitates to allude to race in his comments.

We are indeed a divided country, but not on the basis of race as we had been in the past. But race is the “bogey man” the left continues to raise in order to push their agenda, and anyone who opposes their agenda is almost automatically branded a racist — even if the left has to make up stories to push that meme. Remember the non-existent “epithet” incident outside the Capitol during the healthcare passage?

Trochilus on November 8, 2012 at 1:04 PM

And this goes back to my point, Republicans need to reach these sub-cultures. These people consistently have gatherings, ie. dinner dances, picnics, parades, etc. Republicans need to court these people. Their values are Republican values. They belong under the Republican umbrella.

Cpoy2 on November 8, 2012 at 11:57 AM

As long as Immigrants and their descendants are persuaded to vote race over principle…or economic envy over freedom and self made possibility…or expansive centralized government over subsidiarity…or insistence that we conform to their understanding of governance instead of learning what makes us uniquely different and worth preserving, they will stay enslaved to socialism in a culture of false expectation and dependence which is what democrats want.

workingclass artist on November 8, 2012 at 1:07 PM

I won’t deny that a large number of
people, perhaps more young people than
others, tend to believe the rubbish you
posted above about white males attitudes
in general on the subject of race.
But it is rubbish, none the less. Yes, there
will always be a few bigots out there . . .
and in any ethnic or racial group. For
example, we’ve recently seen an alarming
number of expressions based on out-and-
out bigotry, which were openly posted by
Obama supporters on public websites —
such as the huge number of racially-
charged death threats against Romney
posted on Twitter, when the polls
indicated he was doing well a few weeks
back.
So, I don’t know whether you pulled your
generalizations out of thin air, or not. My
guess would be that you have been
spoon-fed that trash by someone else,
and somehow feel free to regurgitate it
here in the form of generalizations.
But I’ve been around long enough, and in
a sufficient number of institutional
settings in my life — army, educational,
work world — to have a pretty damned
solid idea about white male attitudes on
race and ethnicity. My guess is that they
are no different, percentage-wise, than
any other group. You, of course, cite no
support for your generalizations.
I’d also add that no one in this country
has been more consistently provocative
on matters of race than this President,
and his supporters. He signaled it right
from the start back in 2008, and has
never let it go. He had to call a “beer
summit” to take the sting out of one
particularly obnoxious prejudgment he
made about the situation. He apparently
believes that there is a benefit to barely
concealed racial undercurrent, and that it
pays political dividends to play the race
card. Certainly many of his followers do as
well.
Perhaps it has paid dividends, but that
certainly doesn’t make it right. Though he
promised to be a “uniter,” he has
consistently looked for ways to divide
people. And he never hesitates to allude
to race in his comments.
We are indeed a divided country, but not
on the basis of race as we had been in the
past. But race is the “bogey man” the left
continues to raise in order to push their
agenda, and anyone who opposes their
agenda is almost automatically branded a
racist — even if the left has to make up
stories to push that meme. Remember
the non-existent “epithet” incident
outside the Capitol during the healthcare
passage?
Trochilus on November 8, 2012 at 1:04
PM
Comment

Everything Jules said was dead on. But you and your party continue being stubborn fools in denial of this problem.

Magnus on November 8, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Anyone else feel more loyalty to the Gadsden Flag than the American Flag right now? Just sayin’

The Count on November 7, 2012 at 9:22 PM

Yes.

Who is John Galt on November 8, 2012 at 1:17 PM

Everything Jules said was dead on. But you and your party continue being stubborn fools in denial of this problem.

Magnus on November 8, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Way to get specific and back up your argument.

BadgerHawk on November 8, 2012 at 1:22 PM


Romney – Doesn’t reach out to Tea Party – Fail

SurferDoc on November 8, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Really! Really! He did not reach out to the TEA Party?

The guys campaign was all about lowering taxes and creating growth, smaller government and cutting the bloated Federal Budget including Big Bird. This was not good enough for the TEA Party?
Then help me out dosen’t the TEA Party stand for Taxed Enough Already. Oh and great TEA Party Cndidates for the Senate who talk about legitimate rapes and nonsense about you will not get pregnant. Played right into the DEms mantra of the War on Women.

Here tell your next candidates that when questioned about rape in context with Pro-Life. To either support an exception for Rape, Incest or health of the mother or say Abortion is killing human life and as deplorable a pregnancy resulting from a rape I am against taking a human life. And then STFU.

Natebo on November 8, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Dear Capitalist Hog,
Did you see this:


The Case of the Missing White Voters

Still think I’m a “smug clown” who doesn’t “understand percentages or statistical analysis at all”? Who is “just throwing out numbers you’ve heard.”? That I am “probably sitting in front of your webcam with a whiteboard playing Fox and Friends.”?

Next time before you go off on someone about stats please be sure it isn’t about ones readily available on CNN’s website.

Thanks.

Rocks on November 8, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Way to get specific and back up your
argument.
BadgerHawk on November 8, 2012 at
1:22 PM

What type of specifics would you like? I shall see what I can provide you.

Magnus on November 8, 2012 at 1:45 PM

What type of specifics would you like? I shall see what I can provide you.

Magnus on November 8, 2012 at 1:45 PM

Find me something supporting this:

Why do single white women vote Democrat? It’s because they are more open minded until they get married to some conservative white men and start voting in line with their husbands (thus the gap between single and married white women).

Since you think it’s 100% true. I think it’s silly, and better explained by married households having children and their priorities shifting as a result. As a recent father I can attest to this personally. I can also say that my wife is more vocal in her conservatism than I am – hardly her ‘getting in line’.

Also, it’s easy not to care about the national debt when you’re not concerned about who has to pay it off. Again, priorities, not prejudices.

BadgerHawk on November 8, 2012 at 1:57 PM

You mean it’s a popularity contest? Like high school or college?

YOU. DON’T. SAY.

John Kettlewell on November 8, 2012 at 2:04 PM

President Bush and his administration warned Congress no fewer than SEVENTEEN TIMES in 2008 alone that doling out loans to people who could not pay them back would eventually lead to a housing collapse. His warnings were ignored, the collapse occurred in 2008, and voters that year (as this year) blamed the wrong party.

Enough of this nonsense about Bush’s allegedly “failed policies.” What can we do to bring these facts to light? Bush is obviously out of office, but his being scapegoated for the 2008 recession and current economic downturn is grossly unfair. Equally importantly, misconceptions about his role are leading to wrong ideas about how to get out of it. How can we remedy this?

bmmg39 on November 8, 2012 at 2:42 AM

Anyone? I’m serious.

bmmg39 on November 8, 2012 at 2:14 PM

As the counting and posting on the Politico site has continued, 57,895,339 seems to now [2:20 pm, 11/08/12] be the current tally of Republican votes currently garnered by Romney nationwide. That is up by close to 300,000 or so from the time of AllahPundit’s original post.

The “interactive” aspect of the table is not quite up to speed, but if you refresh that link, you’ll see that number [or a subsequent higher one] pop up as the current total, and then possibly change back.

Since my comment post above, it appears that a few more votes may have been counted in the State of Washington — which, in spite of that, is now only up to 57.9% counted, so they still have significant chunk of their vote to be tallied.

Based on the percentages each candidate received so far, and projecting out to a 100% count in the State of Washington, by my general estimation, Mitt Romney should receive an additional 665,640 votes in that state alone, while Obama should receive somewhere around 862,520 additional votes. I didn’t get into an analysis of where the missing votes are coming from, so each of them might receive more or less of those projections. I assume if the are rural or exurban areas, that Romney might do a little better.

That would push Romney’s total up to 58,560,829 total votes nationwide, with smaller partial percentages of votes from several other states still outstanding — as I detailed above.

So, John Podhoretz is likely right.

Trochilus on November 8, 2012 at 2:26 PM

bmmg39, the media is the key. As long as they lie and cover for the dems, we are fighting an uphill battle on roller blades.

Hard Right on November 8, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Magnus on November 8, 2012 at 1:14 PM

I see you are even more bereft of any basis of support for your general assertion of support than he was. And, you made absolutely no effort to take issue with anything that I said. But, thanks for giving me the additional coverage.

Trochilus on November 8, 2012 at 2:36 PM

Folks, immigrationn reform will not bring in the hispanic vote. They tend to be liberals and their idea of familly values equals nanny govt. values.

Hard Right on November 8, 2012 at 2:36 PM

Does any analysis of exit polls and voter demographics really matter? I wish just one of the analysts would come right out and say that the vast majority of voters are brain dead morons. They’re typically uneducated, uninformed, and just don’t have a clue of anything in the political world, or the desire to learn.

Interview after interview with college kids admit they don’t follow politics, yet they support Obozo because he’s cool, or one I heard say “Because he’s done such an amazing job in his first term”.

stacman on November 8, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Let’s not forget that Romney never got close to 0bama in the polls until the debates, and those numbers have proven to be a fluke.

If you want to win you need a good record to run on, a solid message concerning the future of America, AND you need to fight the liberal from the start, not in the last 2 months of the election.

Heck, even the Romney supporters refused to get off of their benches to help him win. No wonder he lost his state.

DannoJyd on November 8, 2012 at 3:19 PM

workingclass artist on November 8, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Agreed. Unfortunately, us immigrants, are all lumped in the “minority” column. There’s so much profiling in America except at the airport. God help us. We really need to fix the union controlled education system in this country. Start at the root of the problem.

Cpoy2 on November 8, 2012 at 3:21 PM

Well, the Chicago Way worked and Zero reimbursed his cronies with our money, so it went according to plan. It’ll work for another year or two, then $20T debt takes over – but they’ve stolen their money already, and they’re laughing at us – we that possess those outdated ideas of “integrity” and “honesty”.

Who is John Galt on November 8, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Only we can prevent the death of the U.S. by getting out and vote, vote, vote ,, vote.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 8, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Too late. It’s Thursday.

Who is John Galt on November 8, 2012 at 3:30 PM

bmmg39, the media is the key. As long as they lie and cover for the dems, we are fighting an uphill battle on roller blades.

Hard Right on November 8, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Of course there’s an uphill battle, though fewer and fewer trust the media. But how much energy has been wasted by people with the megaphones about birth certificates and the “war on Christmas”? Everybody here and everybody we know should have these facts down pat. Dennis Prager, with whom I’ve disagreed from time to time, nailed it, though. Even Mitt didn’t set the record straight went Obama brought up “going back to the same policies that got us into this mess in the first place” ad nauseum.

bmmg39 on November 8, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Scroomed.

Who is John Galt on November 8, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Meh. They young voters thought they were voting Obama off the island. They didn’t undertand it was a real election.

2ndMAW68 on November 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Guess what, if the money runs out and democrats were the ones that did it, people will go back to Republicans.

milcus on November 7, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Maybe, but IMHO it will be so far gone that even all the consrvative priciples being applied immediately and forcefully by peopel at all levels in their walk of life will not be able to undo the damage that Obam has done and will now only acclerate. The only thing left (shudder) is the probablit of an left induced civil war that the constitutionalist win because the Almighty honors their principles and humility.

RedLizard64 on November 8, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Phoenix7 on November 7, 2012 at 8:55 PM

“It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere”. If they want liberty they are going to have to unshackle themselves…but if they want to try and TAKE what is mine their shackles will earn them some lead.

RedLizard64 on November 8, 2012 at 4:15 PM

I agree with General Boykin..Impeachment proceedings for either Holder or Obama or both for the suppression of the military vote.!

RedLizard64 on November 8, 2012 at 4:17 PM

On the Politico map, it is now up to just under 57,951,518 popular votes for Romney, with what looks like some more votes being reported from the State of Washington. That state now has 66.4% reported, and a few hours ago they were only at 57.9%, and even lower than that just a few hours earlier.

So, there is still a significant chunk of State of Washington votes to be reported for both candidates, and perhaps they are out there attempting to tally most of them this afternoon — with a few hours left.

In Michigan, with only 3.5% still outstanding, I figure there are about 76.073 Romney votes outstanding and approximately 90,347 Obama votes to be tallied.

Oregon still has 5.1% of their votes outstanding; Montana 6.4% (which because of their low population doesn’t translate into that many votes); Arkansas still has 2.3% out.

Alaska, Virginia, Maryland, Pennsylvania, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin and Minnesota each have miniscule percentages (less than 1% each) still out, as do New Jersey, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts.

New York and Maine each have just under 2% remaining untallied.

Trochilus on November 8, 2012 at 5:21 PM

Did anyone else notice that Romney won among Caucasian voters among all age categories, including 18 – 29 — and that even among African-American voters his BEST category was the 18 – 29 group?

bmmg39 on November 8, 2012 at 7:04 PM

Since you think it’s 100% true. I think it’s silly, and better explained by married households having children and their priorities shifting as a result. As a recent father I can attest to this personally. I can also say that my wife is more vocal in her conservatism than I am – hardly her ‘getting in line’.

Also, it’s easy not to care about the national debt when you’re not concerned about who has to pay it off. Again, priorities, not prejudices.

BadgerHawk on November 8, 2012 at 1:57 PM

http://www.studentpulse.com/articles/127/the-effect-of-marriage-on-political-identification

Here is something I found that goes into phenomenon with different theories why it happens and what variables may change it.

But if you look at voter demographics you will see that:

White single males lean majority conservative and vote Republican.

Married white males lean majority conservative and vote Republican.

Single white women towards liberalism and voting Democratic

Married women(in general) more often than not take on the political views of the husband after marriage or at least vote in that manner.

Now while I personally consider conservatism close-minded by nature, contextually it isn’t always a negative but sometimes (in my view as per our current discussion in regards to conservatives reaching out to other demographics) it seems to be a negative. I can’t, however, attest the interpretation of “close-minded” by the poster you originally quoted.

Magnus on November 8, 2012 at 7:07 PM

I’m not buying the BS that several million conservatives sat home and didn’t vote. This whole election reeks of serious undercounting of votes for Romney.

Everyone can believe whatever they want but that’s what I believe.

bgibbs1000 on November 8, 2012 at 7:08 PM

Here’s my TOP 10 REASONS why Romney lost.

1) He was a Liberal with a liberal record. History has repeatedly shown that Republicans WIN when they run as conservatives and have a history of standing on their conservative principles. History shows that Republicans lose when they try to run in the center because they want to appeal to Democrats (who won’t vote for them anyway) and Independents. Hint: YOU CAN’T OUT-DEMOCRAT THE DEMOCRATS. They’re NEVER going to vote for you no matter how much you say your agenda is the SAME as theirs.

2) He was FORCED down our throats by RNC party hacks who Romney had spent the last 4 years smoozing. Nothing says “I’m an establishment Republican” better than being rammed down your throat by establishment Republicans!

3) He ran a SCORCHED EARTH primary campaign where he said terrible things about his so-called “fellow Republicans” and then proceeded to NOT say terrible things about Obama. He showed contempt for other Republicans and the principles that they stood for. This let a bad taste for him with a lot of voters.

4) He purposefully alienated Ron Paul supporters (no I’m not one of them) when he pulled all those shenanigans at the Convention thereby given many of his supporters a good reason to NOT vote for him.

5) He purposefully alienated Palin supporters when he told her to don’t come anywhere near his campaign and officially dis-invited her from the Convention thereby given many of her supporters (millions of them) a good reason NOT to vote for him.

6) He came off as Mr. Squishy because he had to flip-flop on too many issues as he ran from his Liberal record. Too many people (myself included) just won’t vote for another squishy Republican who will adopt Democrat Policies once in office because he want Democrats to like him. Many of us would prefer a Democrat sitting in the driver’s seat of the bus as it goes over the cliff than a Republican. The Democrats OWN the coming collapse.

7) He failed to take the fight directly to Obama and repeatedly passed up chance after chance to deliver a knock-out blow during the debates. This proved what many of us already believed, that Mitt simply lacked the fire in the belly to win (same as McCain). We saw Mitt as someone who would rather lose gracefully than win by somehow having offended his opponent (who was busy calling him a felon, murderer, etc).

8) He conceded the election before all the ballots were counted. Thus, if it turns out that there was rampant election fraud and he would’ve won, for example, Colorado, Ohio, and Florida, it won’t matter because he conceded! He just proved what a fool he was. Even George Bush II wasn’t stupid enough to concede the election before all the ballots were counted.

9) He repeatedly stated that he wanted to “Work in a bipartisan manner with Democrats”. When many of us hear those words it translates immediately into “I want the Democrats to play me for the fool that they know I am!” Many of us want to work with the Democrats as much as they want to work with Republicans which is NOT AT ALL unless we’re wholly adopting their agent. As such, many of us simply won’t vote for a man who thinks Democrats are okay people but just a little misguided. This shows that he simply doesn’t understand the kind of people that he’s up against.

10) Lastly, he hired, AS HIS TOP CAMPAIGN ADVISORS, the very same old-school, out-of-touch, establishment-type people who ran John McCain’s failed campaign. Simply put, STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES.

In sum, Mitt Romney has nobody to blame but himself.

Mahdi on November 9, 2012 at 11:32 AM

As I see it, I think that Mitt was popular among those who were too apathetic to go to the polls. I’m referring to the low information white, suburban voter who preferred Mitt but wouldn’t get their lazy a$$ off of the sofa. Until the national crisis arrives, rather than merely irrefutable evidence that it is coming, these worthless slugs are going to do something else on election day. I don’t know how you get through to such slobs.

MJBrutus on November 9, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Y’all can talk about all the turnout problems all you want. The fact is the rhinos couldn’t get a candidate that could beat the worst pres we have had in a long time. We are done with the republican party until new leadership is in place. Otherwise we will vote 3rd party or not vote at all. Too many losers being put up as candidates.

A side note about my prediction a couple of months ago, a majority of catholics voted for obama. So much for all the hoopla about abortion and freedom of religion.

This election proved that our country is lost. A majority voted for the one that will give them stuff. When people this stupid vote, there is no hope.

johnny reb on November 9, 2012 at 8:39 PM

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