Does Barack Obama have a mandate?

posted at 12:01 pm on November 7, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

In the aftermath of any victory, presidential candidates proclaim a new mandate to move forward on the values of their campaign.  Barack Obama will probably be no different, but National Journal’s Ron Fournier warns that claiming a mandate after this election would be politically dangerous — and a fantasy:

Barack Obama won a second term but no mandate. Thanks in part to his own small-bore and brutish campaign, victory guarantees the president nothing more than the headache of building consensus in a gridlocked capital on behalf of a polarized public.

If the president begins his second term under any delusion that voters rubber-stamped his agenda Tuesday night, he is doomed to fail.

Mandates are rarely won on Election Night. They are earned after Inauguration Day by leaders who spend their political capital wisely, taking advantage of events without overreaching. Obama is capable – as evidenced by his first-term success with health care reform. But mandate-building requires humility, a trait not easily associated with him.

“The mandate is a myth,” said John Altman, associate professor of political science at York College of Pennsylvania. “But even if there was such a thing as a mandate, this clearly isn’t an election that would produce one.”

He pointed to Obama’s small margin of victory and the fact that U.S. voters are divided deeply by race, gender, spirituality and party affiliation. You can’t claim to be carrying out the will of the people when the populous has little shared will.

Fournier has this most correct in his initial thought.  In order to claim a mandate, one has to have run on clear, positive values.  The only real takeaway from the Obama campaign was that Mitt Romney was too extreme or too willing to change to be President, which doesn’t leave much of a positive basis for Obama to claim a mandate.  The first appearance of even the skeleton of a second-term agenda came 567 days into the campaign, and that consisted of vague pledges to stick to the status quo.

Furthermore, this was the unique re-election where an incumbent President did slightly worse than his first election.  Obama lost two states he won, and the popular-vote margin will be narrower on a percentage basis than in 2008.  That doesn’t equate to a ringing vote of confidence in Obama’s agenda; in fact, it sounds a bit like a warning that a second term had better produce more than the first.

Perhaps Obama understood that last night.  His victory speech didn’t hail a mandate, but instead focused rhetorically on the need for better solutions from everyone across the board.  How long will that last?  We’ll see, but shortly after his last victory, Obama didn’t hesitate to tell Republicans to get used to the fact that “I won.”  Perhaps he learned a lesson from that, but it wouldn’t have come from winning his next election.

The Chicago Tribune notes that Obama may not have learned the lesson at all:

“You made your voice heard,” Obama said in his acceptance speech, signaling that he believes the bulk of the country is behind his policies. It’s a sticking point for House Republicans, sure to balk at that.

The same voters who gave Obama four more years in office also elected a divided Congress, sticking with the dynamic that has made it so hard for the president to advance his agenda. Democrats retained control of the Senate; Republicans kept their House majority.

Here’s Obama’s full speech from last night:

 

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Let’s see what his mandate is when Al-Quaida launches its next major attack on American soil. Benghazi was just a foretaste to what could be coming down the pike later on.

pilamaye on November 7, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Does Barack Obama have a mandate?
posted at 12:01 pm on November 7, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Leaving that aside,
a better question here would be does the Republican Party have a mandate?

verbaluce on November 7, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Old Fritz on November 7, 2012 at 1:03 PM
Thank you. I have a son-in-law and a nephew who are suffering from PTSD. There is not much help for them. The government just pushes drugs but neither one of them are interested in using drugs to cope. They would rather work through it themselves.

AZgranny on November 7, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Enjoy the Buffet

Key West Reader on November 7, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Yep. Think we all need to do a little livin’ on island time for a bit. Time to hoist that Conch Republic flag and secede, eh?

Carolina21 on November 7, 2012 at 1:08 PM

I had the absolutely the most horrible realization this morning when I awoke. To think I actually feel happy, be it an odd sense of happiness, though in a way, it’s a more deep sense of relief that I am so very thankful for…

I loved my Mom and the absolutely wonderful person she was. Mom, who would have be 90 this year and was a 1st lieutenant in the Army serving from 11/1944 on, she was sent/served in Guadalcanal about 3 weeks after its taking, so to her and Dad who served in the Battle of the Budge on the Eastern front, and to all her generation, I am so thankful that as of this morning – you are all dead. That way -I don’t have to to try to explain, because you don’t need to understand anymore what has happened to our freedom.

It is so so very sad that America as they and I once knew it now no longer exists. My problem going forward is I need to understand and I don’t think I ever will.

wubu on November 7, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Just make it happen, Barky. Yes, you have a mandate so go forward and fix everything just like you promised.

And 4 years from now when the nation is struggling even more mightily than it is today, with hundreds of golf games and dozens of fancy vacations tallied, you can do what you do best: Blame Bush.

Bishop on November 7, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Let Obama and Harry Reid have whatever they want. The quicker the country sinks into depression and collapse, the sooner we can destroy liberalism. If it can’t be saved, may as well get it over with.

they lie on November 7, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Hey all you liberal posters visting today here are some questions for you:

1. The debt ceiling is going to be hit before the end of this year. What plans do Obama and Harry Reid have to address that?

2. Companies large and small will be laying off workers before the end of this year. What plans do Obama and Harry Reid have to stop the lay-offs?

3. Sequestration with the huge military cuts is coming January 1, 2013. What plans do Obaman and Harry Reid have to stop sequestration?

Do you think Obama’s executive order magic wand is going to find the funding to address these issues. The demoncrats have no plans and the country is approaching the fiscal cliff. So tell us, what are the plans? You all seem to be enlightened by Obama’s victory and subsequent mandate. So, really tell us what are the plans? Our kids and grand kids futures depend on the plans.

rsherwd65 on November 7, 2012 at 1:10 PM

He swore to serve with honor and that is what he should do. That, and save every penny of that tax-free income and invest it in companies that support Obamacare. And yes, I currently serve.

M240H on November 7, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Thank you for your advice. That is how I feel too. And LOL – thanks for the investment advice too!

AZgranny on November 7, 2012 at 1:10 PM

As George Will wrote some months ago, if the Pubs. can’t beat Obama, the party needs to disappear. Every Pub. elected congressman and senator should immediately resign.

they lie on November 7, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Not only does he not give a flying rat’s ass……

natasha333 on November 7, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Don’t we call those things squirrels?

Happy Nomad on November 7, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Perhaps Obama understood that last night. His victory speech didn’t hail a mandate, but instead focused rhetorically on the need for better solutions from everyone across the board.

Ed, you’re too smart to fall for this, but, alas, too polite to admit what is true. Barack Obama hates America, he has contempt for the electorate, he loves and cares only about himself, and you’re going to fall for him saying the “right things” in a speech.
Dear God, isn’t that how we ended up with this vile sociopath in the 1st place four years ago?
Valerie Jarrett is vicious, ruthless and the REAL president, and she will dictate policy and couldn’t care less that 50-point whatever percent doesn’t “represent a mandate.”

Right Mover on November 7, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Absolutely. I would think everyone here should know by now, if nothing else, that what Obama says and what Obama does has little correlation. How can anyone who has been paying any attention fall for what he says? Unreal. And to fall for syrupy empty crap like “need for better solutions from everyone across the board” is way beyond unreal. I think to do so is very much misinterpreting Jesus.

VorDaj on November 7, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Yeah, he has a mandate. To keep on being Barack Obama – Awesome-American. It’s called a cult of personality. Now we just need to find one.

Butler on November 7, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Obama has one mandate: not to be any of the straw men he created on the way to his 2nd term (outsourcer, warfighter against women, hater of the poor, hater of the auto industry)

stillaneocon on November 7, 2012 at 1:15 PM

Being a libtard troll on a conservative website makes you an enourmous a**hole…that and the fact that you are you.

Obama may have won drywall…but you’re still a loser and so are the rest of your ilk.

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HumpBot Salvation on November 7, 2012 at 12:45 PM
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It is very satisfying to see you type stuff like that in after you blew the easiest election in history with breathtaking incompetence.

Dave Rywall on November 7, 2012 at 1:15 PM

Has the Christie lover Ann Coulter said anything about the back stabbing fat man?

You know, the guy that was chosen to set the tone for our convention and then turned around and licked Barry’s boots.

RINO.

SparkPlug on November 7, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Let Obama and Harry Reid have whatever they want. The quicker the country sinks into depression and collapse, the sooner we can destroy liberalism. If it can’t be saved, may as well get it over with.

they lie on November 7, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Yes. Might as well rip the bandaide off fast.

VorDaj on November 7, 2012 at 1:16 PM

In his mind he does…and that is all that counts…

right2bright on November 7, 2012 at 1:17 PM

Listen. We did not want Obama Care. Romney did. Romney lost because of that.

Do not tell me to vote for Obama Care 59% of Americans hate it but last night there was no candidate to vote for that would actually repeal it.

Steveangell on November 7, 2012 at 12:47 PM

I think Obamacare was about #12 on a list of issues. Please look it up.

The main problem was that R’s were being blamed for the economic troubles we face right now.

So why elect anyone but O? He already has the job and the voters know him.

And they never bought Romney’s promise to fix the economy. Why should they? He never distanced himself enough from Bush, never defined exactly what he wanted to do and was a rotten capitalist anyway. Rotten capitalists cause most problems, don’t you know?

IlikedAUH2O on November 7, 2012 at 1:18 PM

With the media covering his back, Obama has a mandate.

The question for the Republicans is:
Can any party survive if the national media is the biased propaganda arm of the Democrats?

albill on November 7, 2012 at 1:18 PM

Anyone who does not absolutely despise and even hate Obama by now has something very wrong with them. And don’t anyone tell me I don’t have a Christian attitude. Christ never said to be an idiot.

VorDaj on November 7, 2012 at 1:19 PM

No. But he didn’t have a mandate before and look at the damage.

Anyway. I’ll use this spot to say goodbye to Hot Air. Been coming here for at least 8 years. It’s been fun, but no more. All the postings and wit and common sense and commentary did no good. The trolls won. The pigs are at the trough. The enemy is inside the gates. The military will be stripped. Economy will hobbled and soon enough collapsed. Islam will be appeased. Israel stands alone. Modern civilization is on the brink of oblivion. And Valerie Jarrett gets to pick 2-3 SCOTUS rubber stamps. Decisions made there will echo for 100 years or more. To paraphrase the late great Private Hudson…

For the USA it’s game over, man, game over.

curved space on November 7, 2012 at 1:19 PM

As for being part of the economy, all major purchases just got put on hold, I’m going to start looking for another state in which to reside, and my small businesses are now in the endangered category.

Bishop on November 7, 2012 at 12:26 PM

Someone else above invited you to Texas. I agree…….we’re growing and need all the conservatives we can get to block the libs that are moving here after destroying wherever they are from.

Austin is a bit too liberal for me. I live in Lubbock with one of the lowest unemployment rates in Texas, and has great business-friendly environment.
https://christiborden.wordpress.com/2010/07/23/proof-that-texas-is-truly-the-best-place-to-live/

avagreen on November 7, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Right on. Being a “good citizen” is all about throwing yourself into line and shutting up.

It worked for so many societies before us, why should America be any different.

Remember: Arbeit Macht Frei

Bishop on November 7, 2012 at 12:46 PM
——-
What a moronic response.

Who said stand in line and grab your ankles?

Your country will grind to a halt if both sides of the aisle don’t work together.

But maybe you’re hoping for more record-setting obstruction.

Pssst – that was not an insignificant factor in independents saying f*ck you Republicans.

Nice dooshbag Nazi quote, by the way. Perfect from you.

Now grab your ball and go home, you baby.

Dave Rywall on November 7, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Don’t know, but getting lots of feed back from conservative, religious Republicans that they had a real problem with Romney being a Mormon….

Why was the number of people voting for the Republican candidate down by so much???

albill on November 7, 2012 at 1:21 PM

McCain beat Romney in terms of base turn-out. McCain. Romney underpreformed McCain…

casuist on November 7, 2012 at 12:46 PM

You’re cherry-picking, and wrong. First, vote tallies right now do no include absentee and provisional ballots, that should put Romney on par, nationwide, with John McCain’s numbers.

More importantly, Romney significantly outperformed McCain in every swing state.

Longing4Lincoln on November 7, 2012 at 1:21 PM

I had the absolutely the most horrible realization this morning when I awoke. To think I actually feel happy, be it an odd sense of happiness, though in a way, it’s a more deep sense of relief that I am so very thankful for…

I loved my Mom and the absolutely wonderful person she was. Mom, who would have be 90 this year and was a 1st lieutenant in the Army serving from 11/1944 on, she was sent/served in Guadalcanal about 3 weeks after its taking, so to her and Dad who served in the Battle of the Budge on the Eastern front, and to all her generation, I am so thankful that as of this morning – you are all dead. That way -I don’t have to to try to explain, because you don’t need to understand anymore what has happened to our freedom.

It is so so very sad that America as they and I once knew it now no longer exists. My problem going forward is I need to understand and I don’t think I ever will.

wubu on November 7, 2012 at 1:09 PM

So true, thanks for sharing.

Every civilization eventually ends. Sure, the geo political entity we know as the US still exists, but the idea of America as we know it is dead.

Norwegian on November 7, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Thank you. I have a son-in-law and a nephew who are suffering from PTSD. There is not much help for them. The government just pushes drugs but neither one of them are interested in using drugs to cope. They would rather work through it themselves.

AZgranny on November 7, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Then their attitude and the odds are on their side.

VorDaj on November 7, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Run him over the fiscal cliff and see what happens.

Tater Salad on November 7, 2012 at 12:23 PM

I say, let’s go to sequester. Spending cuts and tax increases.

What’s the risk?

matthew8787 on November 7, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Listen. We did not want Obama Care. Romney did. Romney lost because of that.

Do not tell me to vote for Obama Care 59% of Americans hate it but last night there was no candidate to vote for that would actually repeal it.

Steveangell on November 7, 2012 at 12:47 PM

I call BS. So Romney did not tell the truth when he said he would repeal Obamacare? Better chance with him then 0buma. So you stay home which is a vote for 0bumer and ensure 0bamacare is the law of the land. By the way I will be facing the Death Panel soon.

So, if you didn’t vote you are part of the problem. Your logic leaves a lot to be desired.

derft on November 7, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Now that the election is over, and Obama has won these are a couple of things he has to address:

Fast and Furious
Benghazi
$5 per gallon gas
A budget…yes, he has to get a budget done
Iran, what to do with Iran…

That is just a couple of things he has been dodging for the past year or two…

Along with unemployment, economy, etc. Now those are cyclical, so they will come around a bit, but not be “cured”.

And don’t forget his ever important choice of who is going to be the “Business Czar”…

right2bright on November 7, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Can any party survive if the national media is the biased propaganda arm of the Democrats?

albill on November 7, 2012 at 1:18 PM

good question

cmsinaz on November 7, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Has the Christie lover Ann Coulter said anything about the back stabbing fat man?
You know, the guy that was chosen to set the tone for our convention and then turned around and licked Barry’s boots.
RINO.
SparkPlug on November 7, 2012 at 1:16 PM

It’s called working together. Christie chose to work together instead of try to find a way to use a serious and damaging storm into and attack on the opposition for electoral advantage.

It’s kinda what the real American people want.

Boomer_Sooner on November 7, 2012 at 1:24 PM

More importantly, Romney significantly outperformed McCain in every swing state.

Longing4Lincoln on November 7, 2012 at 1:21 PM

No he didnt. Look at McCain vote totals in VA, FL and OH.

Norwegian on November 7, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Looks like he’s already hard at work…..

Fazman on November 7, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Fazman on November 7, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Anyway. I’ll use this spot to say goodbye to Hot Air. Been coming here for at least 8 years. It’s been fun, but no more. All the postings and wit and common sense and commentary did no good.
curved space on November 7, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Opting out is definitely something to consider.
What impact do political blogs really have? It’s just the choir preaching to the choir…

The MSM is not fair and objective, but they do have all the power.

albill on November 7, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Then their attitude and the odds are on their side.

VorDaj on November 7, 2012 at 1:22 PM

:) Yes. I am proud of them!

AZgranny on November 7, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Romney ran better than his campaign.

Regrettably, the Obama campaign ran better than Obama.

We missed or dismissed the invisible.

matthew8787 on November 7, 2012 at 1:29 PM

It’s kinda what the real American people want.

Boomer_Sooner on November 7, 2012 at 1:24 PM

So they selected someone who didn’t meet with Republican leaders for the first 18 months of his election…a party who passed the most comprehensive bill ever, without a single vote or even consideration in committee to Republican’s…

Yeah, you make a lot of sense…

right2bright on November 7, 2012 at 1:31 PM

No he didnt. Look at McCain vote totals in VA, FL and OH.

Norwegian on November 7, 2012 at 1:25 PM

I already did. Thanks for confirming what I said (though I’m not sure how you are arriving at a different conclusion). Without absentee and provisional ballots being added to the totals, Romney is already comfortably ahead of McCain’s vote tallies.

The talking point that McCain was somehow a better candidate than Romney is “Malarkey” and shouldn’t be taken as gospel.

Longing4Lincoln on November 7, 2012 at 1:31 PM

Now that the election is over, and Obama has won these are a couple of things he has to address:
Fast and Furious
Benghazi
$5 per gallon gas
A budget…yes, he has to get a budget done
Iran, what to do with Iran…
right2bright on November 7, 2012 at 1:23 PM

He can address them like he has done in the past, ignore them.
Now even more so, because he is never running for office again.

The Republican party has been severely wounded and has little power against a lame-duck President and a Democratic Senate.

albill on November 7, 2012 at 1:31 PM

right2bright on November 7, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Somewhere on that list, I’m sure we can find a “high crime” or a misdemeanor.

Impeachment anyone?

Longing4Lincoln on November 7, 2012 at 1:33 PM

The talking point that McCain was somehow a better candidate than Romney is “Malarkey” and shouldn’t be taken as gospel.

Longing4Lincoln on November 7, 2012 at 1:31 PM

They ended up both losers…but Mitt had the much better opportunity. Obama had the history that McCain couldn’t have run against.

It will get down to this…the dems have a better ground game than the Republican’s…

right2bright on November 7, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Instead of Lincoln’s

government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth

We know have Obama’s

government of the bureaucrats, by the bureaucrats, for the bureaucrats, shall not perish from the earth

.

stillaneocon on November 7, 2012 at 1:33 PM

He can address them like he has done in the past, ignore them.
Now even more so, because he is never running for office again.

The Republican party has been severely wounded and has little power against a lame-duck President and a Democratic Senate.

albill on November 7, 2012 at 1:31 PM

He can only ignore them if the House backs down and doesn’t pursue…it has nothing to do with running for office, it all depends how tough Issa gets.

right2bright on November 7, 2012 at 1:34 PM

It will get down to this…the dems have a better ground game than the Republican’s…

right2bright on November 7, 2012 at 1:33 PM

I’m afraid you’re right. When push came to shove, Romney’s supporters didn’t get out to the polls.

Longing4Lincoln on November 7, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Absolutely note… The fool lost 10 millions more votes from his 2008 total…

mnjg on November 7, 2012 at 1:39 PM

Absolutely not… The fool lost 10 millions more votes from his 2008 total…

mnjg on November 7, 2012 at 1:39 PM

I’m afraid you’re right. When push came to shove, Romney’s supporters didn’t get out to the polls.

Longing4Lincoln on November 7, 2012 at 1:35 PM

The unions pushed the Ohio and Nevada vote…the PA vote was ground out in the metro areas.

Look at how many dem locations there were…compared to Republican headquarters, it was 2 or 3 to one…I had to drive over 20 miles for a Romney sign, wanted one for my neighbors, they only would give me one…I even offered them $20 per sign, and no deal, they wanted to “save” them for an event where they may need them…

It will come back, the grassroots effort, like it was the first election, was overwhelming…the Republican’s throw money at the problem, the dems throw people at the problem..

right2bright on November 7, 2012 at 1:41 PM

Sorry. Had trouble attaching the link.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-07/obama-may-levy-carbon-tax-to-cut-the-u-s-deficit-hsbc-says.html

Fazman on November 7, 2012 at 1:26 PM

He’s continuing on with the destruction of this country, and the MSM will cover for him……

avagreen on November 7, 2012 at 1:41 PM

The real problems are the MSM and academia. We need to stop complaining about them and begin taking them over. Fox and Hillsdale are good starts, but only starts. Alumni need to start agitating for more balance, and fund chairs for conservative professorships. I don’t personally know any billionaires, but Newsweek sold for $1, and aside from its real estate holdings the New York Times has negative worth in more ways than one.

Zumkopf on November 7, 2012 at 1:42 PM

What a moronic response.

Who said stand in line and grab your ankles?

Your country will grind to a halt if both sides of the aisle don’t work together.

But maybe you’re hoping for more record-setting obstruction.

Pssst – that was not an insignificant factor in independents saying f*ck you Republicans.

Nice dooshbag Nazi quote, by the way. Perfect from you.

Now grab your ball and go home, you baby.

Dave Rywall on November 7, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Well….nice try. With the drooling half wits in the media screaming,”Republican obstruction” every day, and the takers out there lapping it up, who knew that for 2 FULL YEARS they could have RAMMED even more crap down our throats than they DID?! Half of the idiots that voted for O couldn’t tell you HOW a bill gets through Congress much less what is read about who is obstructing. But, you know, you go right ahead and go with that. When all of the small business in this country starts failing (like ours), and we are taxed into bankruptcy, you will have all of that important vjay-jay policy to save you.

hoosierma on November 7, 2012 at 1:42 PM

No, clearly he doesn’t have a mandate. BUT, were I running the House, I’d try to convince my caucus to give Obama everything he wants fiscally. There is only one way this country will wake up to the evils of progressivism, and that’s when they’re smacked in the face with the very heart of it.

So, stand firm on social and moral issues, but give him his tax hikes. In fact, present the numbers and and suggest that maybe he’s right and the American public did ultimately decide that fairness is the real issue. Based on that, I’d put forth a bill that puts a top marginal rate of at least 75% on entertainment income and royalties. Look, we’ve got as much to be entertained as we do to be seen by a doctor – after all, laughter is the best medicine. And what can put you in a better mood than a good song or a great movie? Besides, the industry was squarely behind the policy of increased taxes on those who can afford to give a little more, simply show them than “a little” isn’t quite enough, we really need a lot.

Give him his carbon tax too. Take away vehicles from people who don’t live in the city and rely on public transportation. Those suburbanites who gleefully voted for Change, and then more of the same. And who’s small businesses rely on those smog-inducing pickup trucks and vans, that get ridiculously low gas mileage. Make them pay more too. They wanted it, let them have it.

Sure, we’ll go into a depression. But the choice is we obstruct ad risk another 8 years beginning in 2016, or we let them do what they want to do and let America see just how destructive it really is. When we run the next GOP guy in line in ’16, we can at least say “we can’t return to the policies of the last eight years that got us into this mess.” That seems to be a winning slogan.

BKeyser on November 7, 2012 at 1:43 PM

If Romney had embraced the Tea Party, the Tea Party had the troops on the ground, they had the ability to create a ground game every bit as powerful as the dems…but he (Mitt) elected to remain “moderate”, and with moderate he get mediocrity…

right2bright on November 7, 2012 at 1:44 PM

It is very satisfying to see you type stuff like that in after you blew the easiest election in history with breathtaking incompetence.

Dave Rywall on November 7, 2012 at 1:15 PM

I guess you need to take satisfaction where you can..you being a worthless POS and all.

HumpBot Salvation on November 7, 2012 at 1:45 PM

So, stand firm on social and moral issues, but give him his tax hikes. In fact, present the numbers and and suggest that maybe he’s right and the American public did ultimately decide that fairness is the real issue. Based on that, I’d put forth a bill that puts a top marginal rate of at least 75% on entertainment income and royalties. Look, we’ve got as much [right] to be entertained as we do to be seen by a doctor – after all, laughter is the best medicine. And what can put you in a better mood than a good song or a great movie? Besides, the industry was squarely behind the policy of increased taxes on those who can afford to give a little more, simply show them than “a little” isn’t quite enough, we really need a lot.

BKeyser on November 7, 2012 at 1:45 PM

right2bright on November 7, 2012 at 1:44 PM

That’s a comforting salve on last night’s wounds, but I don’t think it’s based in reality. Conservatives are… conservative. They are less likely to go door to door, pound the pavement, make calls and generally pester their neighbors into voting.

The Tea Party has been so vilified by the media that they have become toxic even to solidly-right candidates. The Taxed Enough Already party does great in a midterm election where they don’t have to compete against the big boy democratic machine, but even the TEA party is no match for the Democratic Presidential ground game.

Longing4Lincoln on November 7, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Dave Rywall on November 7, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Scared of your own Country failing if we go down?

D-fusit on November 7, 2012 at 1:49 PM

I have kids, too, and I’d love to have a positive attitude and motivation to “keep fighting the good fight”. Maybe I’ll recover and get there. I don’t know. But look at our record so far:

US: Millions of signatures to prevent Obamacare. We picked up Scott Brown in MA.

THEM: They cheated and got Al Franken, bought off a few more votes and shoved it through anyway.

US: We took over the House.

THEM: Obama now routinely bypasses congress and just rules by executive order.

US: We try to expose things like F&F, Benghazi, etc.

THEM: They own the media and cover it all up.

US: There’s no way that, in a fair election, Obama could win 4 more years. Even with the full backing of the media, everyone knows he’s responsible for the failing economy, which should drive the election.

THEM: Sorry, but I firmly believe the fix was in. And I don’t believe anyone will be able to do anything about it.

Conclusion: It’s all about power. THEM has the power. THEM has the power to keep themselves in power and never accountable for their crimes.

God, prove me wrong. Please.

The Rogue Tomato on November 7, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Here’s Obama’s full speech from last night:

yep a blank speech from a blank president..God save us from ourselves

sadsushi on November 7, 2012 at 1:50 PM

The community organizer and his followers have basically given the middle finger to America. Their commitment to it’s destruction continues. They disgust me.

sgtstogie on November 7, 2012 at 1:51 PM

the work to mine the votes on what really happened country-wide will be enormous, but it needs to happen. the truth is democrats used republican voter roll lists to vote in those citizens names for obama by absentee ballot. it’s in the millions nationwide. then when the republicans went to vote, they were told they had already voted, and because of the discrepancy, were offered a provisional ballot that usually doesn’t get counted for 2 weeks after the election.the truckloads of illegal somalis, the lines of same day sign-up voters, and the shenanigans with the vote machines, it all adds up, anyway, the election is called for obama, the balloons are dropped and the pomp and celebration is etched upon americans psyche and nobody wants to continue this debacle and sound like it’s sour grapes or racist, and the election is quietly and conveniently stolen. i and millions like me have waited for 4 years to rid our country of this fraud, i watched the gathering on the mall of americans tea partiers who’ve never gathered like that in history, who swarmed chic filet, and then swarmed the polling places, only to hear that we just weren’t motivated enough to even equal turnout from 2004 or 2008. i don’t believe it, i call BS!

tm11999 on November 7, 2012 at 1:56 PM

the work to mine the votes on what really happened country-wide will be enormous, but it needs to happen. the truth is democrats used republican voter roll lists to vote in those citizens names for obama by absentee ballot. it’s in the millions nationwide. then when the republicans went to vote, they were told they had already voted, and because of the discrepancy, were offered a provisional ballot that usually doesn’t get counted for 2 weeks after the election.the truckloads of illegal somalis, the lines of same day sign-up voters, and the shenanigans with the vote machines, it all adds up, anyway, the election is called for obama, the balloons are dropped and the pomp and celebration is etched upon americans psyche and nobody wants to continue this debacle and sound like it’s sour grapes or racist, and the election is quietly and conveniently stolen. i and millions like me have waited for 4 years to rid our country of this fraud, i watched the gathering on the mall of americans tea partiers who’ve never gathered like that in history, who swarmed chic filet, and then swarmed the polling places, only to hear that we just weren’t motivated enough to even equal turnout from 2004 or 2008. i don’t believe it, i call BS!

tm11999 on November 7, 2012 at 1:56 PM
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omg omg omg have you told the police about this because you really should tell the police

this is a BOMBSHELL

Dave Rywall on November 7, 2012 at 1:59 PM

BKeyser on November 7, 2012 at 1:45 PM

The problems I see with that are:

1) We will personally have to suffer from those policies. No where to hide, no way to exempt yourself and
2) Come next election time, the D’s will say “Where were your ideas” and the MSM will cover for them

Political guru I ain’t. Just my opinion.

Duncan Khuver on November 7, 2012 at 2:06 PM

what’s the matter drywall, too far out for your obama chin?

tm11999 on November 7, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Does Barack Obama have a mandate?
posted at 12:01 pm on November 7, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

With Reggie Love? Or would that be a Man Date?

Battlecruiser-operational on November 7, 2012 at 2:08 PM

omg omg omg have you told the police about this because you really should tell the police

this is a BOMBSHELL

Dave Rywall on November 7, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Anyone ever tell you that you are a hateful person?

avagreen on November 7, 2012 at 2:09 PM

here you go drywall, just one of many nationwide!! http://www.worldmag.com/2012/11/trouble_in_ohio

tm11999 on November 7, 2012 at 2:10 PM

My loathing for this man reached new depths when I heard him say the “task of perfecting our union moves forward”.

Buy Danish on November 7, 2012 at 2:23 PM

His mandate is to raise taxes, let’s make sure he raises them on everyone by going over the fiscal cliff.

Tater Salad on November 7, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Perhaps Obama understood that last night.

No he won’t. I expect we’ll see amnesty for illegal aliens, gun restrictions by executive order, reparations for slavery, and six trillion more debt in the next four years. I guess I’ll have my wish, Obama will be in office when the US economy crashes. All those young and liberal voters will get a sudden and rapid education that there is no such thing as a free lunch and FEMA doesn’t have the money to come help them out. The bill is coming due folks, you’d better be prepared for it.

TulsAmerican on November 7, 2012 at 2:40 PM

My loathing for this man reached new depths when I heard him say the “task of perfecting our union moves forward”.

Buy Danish on November 7, 2012 at 2:23 PM

And when we are all in Obama’s image, that will be his idea of perfection. Even Hitler wasn’t that much of an egotist.

VorDaj on November 7, 2012 at 2:41 PM

I’d try to convince my caucus to give Obama everything he wants fiscally

A fiscal collapse is necessary but insufficient. It is a prerequisite to starting the healing process, but will in no way settle the political question of how to rebuild. For that we will need people capable of drawing the correct conclusions from what transpires. We already know that the bulk of the young are so witless that they don’t even consider fellatio and anal sex to be sex. There is not going to be any raw material to work with post-collapse.

The morons already still blame Bush four years later. What’s another four?

PD Quig on November 7, 2012 at 2:44 PM

Let them have what they want. They won. They voted for a man who couldn’t get a vote from his own party for his budget. They voted for a man whose Tres Sec said, “we don’t have a plan we just don’t like yours.” Well now its up to them. The election is come and gone.

magicbeans on November 7, 2012 at 2:53 PM

whether he won a mandate last night or not is immaterial–he no doubt thinks he won a mandate ergo he will act accordingly.

And I disagree that he had no agenda–he had no “new” agenda, to be sure, but he certainly sold the American people something: trust me.

And –somehow — that worked. Again.

America just voted for 4 more years of an empty seat. I certainly hope he provides it to us–an absence of leadership from a man who thinks like he does can’t be any worse (and in many ways will be better) than if he actually engaged on the issues.

johnny alpha on November 7, 2012 at 3:20 PM

johnny alpha on November 7, 2012 at 3:20 PM

Right you are. Who cares about a mandate? Obama has a date. Jan 21 to be exact and that is all that he needs. He will rule by executive order and beg for Congress to try and do something about it.

MJBrutus on November 7, 2012 at 3:33 PM

Mandate?

Based on votes (and ignoring the 1% all ‘Other’s acquired) — the Nation is split essentially at 50.5% to 49.5%. Republicans still hold Congress and Democrats the Senate. Neither with a filibuster-proof majority.

He isn’t going to get a whole lot done if it’s whack — and whack is all he knows.

Thank goodness he got Obamacare passed with Dictator Executive Orders and a barely functional Democrat controlled Senate.

Still — that’s all he’s got. Executive Orders and Executive Privilege. Expect to see them falling onto the Oval Office desktop like rain.

 

O‘bandoned in Benghazi

FlatFoot on November 7, 2012 at 4:05 PM

“Obama lost two states he won, and the popular-vote margin will be narrower on a percentage basis than in 2008. That doesn’t equate to a ringing vote of confidence in Obama’s agenda; in fact, it sounds a bit like a warning that a second term had better produce more than the first.” Or what? He won’t get re-elected? He has nothing to lose at this point and couldn’t care less what people think or say. He will do exactly as he has done for the past four years, only more so – play golf and basketball, host lavish WH parties, diddle around the edges of policy, and let the rest of his administration and Congress do the heavy lifting. He will rule by executive fiat, the Constitution and the people be damned. His legacy will be job stifling regulations, pocketbook choking taxes, an unsustainable deficit, a weakened military, a dependent society, and a health care system run amok. In the pantheon of historical nanny state figures, he will make FDR look like a rank amateur.

When unemployment reaches 10% and gas is $6/gallon, I will punch the first liberal I hear whining and complaining.

College Prof on November 7, 2012 at 4:15 PM

a better question here would be does the Republican Party have a mandate?

Only some members of the Log Cabin Republicans.

The rest, not so much.

hawkeye54 on November 7, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Obama has a date. Jan 21 to be exact and that is all that he needs. He will rule by executive order and beg for laugh at and ignore any feeble and toothless thing Congress to try and do something may do about it.

FIFY

Hear the lions kittens of Congress roar meow!

hawkeye54 on November 7, 2012 at 4:19 PM

As I have said for years now, one of the reasons O’bamna won the 2008 election was because he set an alltime American record by getting 70% of the high school dropout vote (the previous champ was Algore with 61% in 2000). I also said that for him to have a chance in 2012, he would have to get some of the remaining 30% of high school dropouts to vote for him.

He did.

Haven’t checked the MSNBC exit polling yet, but according to CNN, Dear Leader can now proudly claim another new alltime high school dropout vote record.

He got 82% of them in Pennsylvania.

And 80% in California.

And 73% in Nevada.

And 67% in Ohio.

And 66% in Florida.

Del Dolemonte on November 7, 2012 at 5:03 PM

He won. He has all the mandate he needs to whatever he wants. Believing otherwise is merely wishful thinking.

Listen. We did not want Obama Care. Romney did. Romney lost because of that.

Steveangell

According to exit polls, 50% of the country not only wants Obamacare, they want even more goodies added to it. He did not lose because of Obamacare.

And now we have folks on the right who are basically saying we now need to move left if we want to win without explicitly coming out and saying that. You know what that means? This country is gone. It’s no longer in doubt. There will be no coming back. If you thought both parties were essentially 2 sides of the same coin before, you ain’t seen nothing yet. The wholesale sell out of conservatism is on it’s way, and with 50% of the population(and growing) being comprised of ignorant, uninformed voters, there’s not a darn thing that can be done about it.

xblade on November 7, 2012 at 6:28 PM

On the bright side, he’s the one who gets to inherit his own mess. Just that much more to dig out of.

Of course the media will spin anything he does into acts of greatness, even as the bow of our great nation begins to slip beneath the waves.

3.5 years from now both Obama and the media will still be blaming Bush as our new Chinese overlords are spltting up what ever is left.

Oxymoron on November 7, 2012 at 7:13 PM

Don’t worry, Baracky Boy, you couldn’t be Mitt Romney if you spend the rest of your life trying. Pos.

AReadyRepub on November 8, 2012 at 12:07 AM

Steveangell, do you just say stupid things to have something to post or are you really like what you seem?

AReadyRepub on November 8, 2012 at 12:09 AM

I hope that these religious Republicans who supposedly had a problem with Mitt being a Mormon suffer doubly for helping him lose. His whole being is church oriented and he has a servant’s heart. He surpasses these religious Republican hypocrites in spades. In a way, I am glad he lost; that way he won’t have to suffer anymore slings and arrows from both libs and those phonies in his own party. SUP

AReadyRepub on November 8, 2012 at 12:38 AM

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