Boehner: I’m not open to tax hikes, but I am open to new revenue

posted at 5:21 pm on November 7, 2012 by Allahpundit

The media’s hyperventilating over this as an early sign that the House GOP has been chastised by last night’s presidential/Senate whupping. (WaPo.com’s front-page headline: “A quick pivot after election.”) But … isn’t this always what Boehner says when asked about a grand bargain?

Republicans are “willing to accept new revenue” to tame the soaring national debt and avert an ugly battle over the approaching “fiscal cliff,” House Speaker John A. Boehner said Wednesday in a speech that offered a potential path to compromise in year-end budget negotiations…

In exchange, however, Boehner said Democrats must not “continue to duck the matter of entitlements,” referring to the rising cost of Social Security and federal health programs, which he called “the root of the problem.”

Here’s what he said in April 2011, three months after becoming Speaker:

If considering revenue increases leads to a big 2012 budget deal for Republicans then so be it, Speaker John Boehner told me.

“I’ll put everything on the table. I think Washington has a spending problem. I don’t think it has a revenue problem. I’m not interested in raising taxes on the American people. But if it takes leaving it on the table to have the conversation, I’ll have the conversation,” he told me.

Here he is in November 2011:

“There’s room for revenue but there clearly is a limit to the revenues that may be available” to help reach the congressionally mandated target of cutting government deficits by at least $1.2 trillion, Boehner, an Ohio Republican, told reporters yesterday in Washington…

“Without real reform on the entitlement side, I don’t know how you put any revenue on the table,” Boehner said. The speaker said he “made this clear” to President Barack Obama during failed negotiations on deficit-reduction bargain in July.

Annnnnd here he is in June of this year, in the course of comparing raising new revenue to giving a drug addict another fix:

The Speaker replied: “Well, in negotiations with the president, I had additional revenues on the table. Revenues out of economic growth. Revenues out of a more efficient tax system. Revenues out of what I’ll call opportunity costs from having certainty about what the tax code looks like.”

But Boehner appeared to shut the door on raising taxes.

He famously agreed to $800 billion in new revenue as part of a deficit deal with The One last year before O allegedly demanded more, causing the deal to collapse. So why rehash all of this today? Well, investors wet themselves this afternoon over the fact that two more years of divided government means a compromise on the “fiscal cliff” will be difficult. Now that O’s reelected, he’ll spend the next month pointing to polls on the Bush tax cuts and accusing the House GOP of ignoring the “mandate” he got on tax hikes last night. (Biden is already pushing this point specifically; Boehner, in his own speech last night, pushed back hard on it.) Today’s comments are Boehner’s way of preempting Obama and signaling to the public that he’s not opposed to all deals involving more tax revenue, just ones that involve rate hikes. His problem is that Obama “wins” a stalemate here because inaction means the current rates will lapse automatically. Granted, the higher tax rates and automatic spending cuts from sequestration would probably push the economy back into recession, but why would a lame duck like O care about that? Didn’t he just win an election by convincing the country that Mitt Romney is worse than he is? If he can convince them that Republicans caused the next recession by sticking up for the rich, he just might be able to parlay it into Democratic House gains in 2014. Elections have consequences, none more so than last night’s.

Here’s Boehner talking to CNN a few days ago about the cliff. He told them he expects they’ll reach a short-term deal to buy time for work on a grander grand bargain, hopefully involving tax code reform.


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Before everyone flips

He said lowering rates, closing loopholes, expanding tax base.

Just what Ryan said.

blatantblue on November 7, 2012 at 5:22 PM

here it comeees!

nathor on November 7, 2012 at 5:23 PM

May what Reid has get him too.

Schadenfreude on November 7, 2012 at 5:23 PM

And so it begins.

jukin3 on November 7, 2012 at 5:23 PM

Republicans have long argued that reforming the tax code would generate revenue by improving the economy, an assertion that budget analysts say is difficult to measure. Democrats have insisted that any deal must include changes to the tax code that would provide additional income to the government regardless of their effects on the broader economy.

You can see where each party’s priorities are. Good job yesterday, parasites.

The Count on November 7, 2012 at 5:23 PM

McConnell needs to be thrown out next.

Schadenfreude on November 7, 2012 at 5:23 PM

Give the people what they voted for…let the Bush tax cuts expire for EVERYONE, and see where that gets us.

changer1701 on November 7, 2012 at 5:24 PM

Grab your ankles and prepare.

John_Locke on November 7, 2012 at 5:25 PM

A land this stupid deserves the trifecta: Obama/Boehner/Reid.

Schadenfreude on November 7, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Guess which two stocks were up around 5% today?

Schadenfreude on November 7, 2012 at 5:25 PM

His problem is that Obama “wins” a stalemate here because inaction means the current rates will lapse automatically. Granted, the higher tax rates and automatic spending cuts from sequestration would probably push the economy back into recession, but why would a lame duck like O care about that? Didn’t he just win an election by convincing the country that Mitt Romney is worse than he is? If he can convince them that Republicans caused the next recession by sticking up for the rich, he just might be able to parlay it into Democratic House gains in 2014. Elections have consequences, none more so than last night’s.

Yeah, but how would Obama accuse the GOP of sticking up for the rich if they allow all the tax rates to expire? Those include the ones for the rich. If everyone’s taxes go up and the economy goes back into a recession, the Dems will get most of the heat for it since their party controls the White House.

Regardless, I hope Boehner gives Obama the 800 billion he offered last time. Let’s just raise the tax rates already and take away that talking point from the Dems. If/when the economy tanks, they’ll be unable to blame Bush(even the drive-bys will roll their eyes at that), they can’t accuse the Republicans of being obstructionist, and they can’t complain about a lack of revenue.

Call their bluff.

Doughboy on November 7, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Give the people what they voted for…let the Bush tax cuts expire for EVERYONE, and see where that gets us.

changer1701 on November 7, 2012 at 5:24 PM

Damn straight. You want liberal BS, have some.

John_Locke on November 7, 2012 at 5:26 PM

Grab your ankles and prepare.

John_Locke on November 7, 2012 at 5:25 PM

“Lie back for England America”

Schadenfreude on November 7, 2012 at 5:26 PM

THIS is far more likely than Boehner sticking to conservative principles: Boehner will cave faster than a coal mine help up by toothpicks. His caving will lead to a route of the GOP in 2014 and will also lead tea partiers to abandon politics once again. 2012 has just led to the end of the GOP and the permanent ascendancy of left-wingism in America and the failure of the grand American experiment.

Warner Todd Huston on November 7, 2012 at 5:26 PM

In other words, this is exactly the same thing he and McConnell offered up last time.

If they hold this line, this is not a cave.

A Balrog of Morgoth on November 7, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Loved how Harry Reid lectured on how neither side should lay down lines in the sand, and then immediately stated how tax hikes on rich were necessary.

I think I’m going to take up curling and just let the country got to pot.. maybe I can make the next winter olympics.

gatorboy on November 7, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Eye roll.
Here we go again.
While they bicker, Obama will just issue a couple of orders and before you know it we are at 2016.

ORconservative on November 7, 2012 at 5:27 PM

How about we see the mighty plan that Bark has prepared before doing anything. I mean a Dog Eating Retard like Obama would never lie about having a firm scheme to put everything right, would he?

Bishop on November 7, 2012 at 5:27 PM

It’s strange that the Democrats are so desperate to raise taxes. They don’t care about deficits, and to be fair the GOP doesn’t either, but at least they are consistent and don’t want to take your share of meaningless money. The Democrats are desperate to take your money even though they don’t have the slightest concern about printing or borrowing money. Why is that? Could it be because money is choices. Even in Soviet Russia it was required to have money to accomplish anything. Money is freedom, and if they want your money that means they want your freedom.

DFCtomm on November 7, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Give the people what they voted for…let the Bush tax cuts expire for EVERYONE, and see where that gets us.

changer1701 on November 7, 2012 at 5:24 PM

That’s exactly what should happen- there’s no need to target one specific group such as high income earners. But it needs to be phased in over time, not done in one stroke. Time for Clinton tax rates coupled with deep entitlement cuts. The electorate voted for Obama but expects compromise that respects his opponents.

bayam on November 7, 2012 at 5:28 PM

an early sign that the House GOP has been chastised by last night’s presidential/Senate whupping. (WaPo.com’s front-page headline: “A quick pivot after election.”)

it’s a different pivot.

Quickly pivoting the political conversation from President Obama’s reelection to Washington’s looming budget battles, House Speaker John A. Boehner…

it’s only the first line of the article you linked, so you might be forgiven for missing it.

sesquipedalian on November 7, 2012 at 5:28 PM

I say let sequestration come and let all the tax cuts expire.

Mark1971 on November 7, 2012 at 5:28 PM

THIS is far more likely than Boehner sticking to conservative principles: Boehner will cave faster than a coal mine help up by toothpicks. His caving will lead to a route of the GOP in 2014 and will also lead tea partiers to abandon politics once again. 2012 has just led to the end of the GOP and the permanent ascendancy of left-wingism in America and the failure of the grand American experiment.

Warner Todd Huston on November 7, 2012 at 5:26 PM

That’s not what they’re saying.

predator on November 7, 2012 at 5:29 PM

Sequester cuts and Bush tax cuts expiring.. sounds like a great start.. more please..

gatorboy on November 7, 2012 at 5:29 PM

Boehner: I’m not open to tax hikes, but I am open to new revenue

Okay. In the private sector that’s called profit.

How you get there matters. Because you can kill profit in the private sector by the way you raise revenue.

Re-electing the rat-eared commie killed any confidence in the market. Who knows what random Executive Order will destroy an entire industry and all the jobs attached?

Happy Nomad on November 7, 2012 at 5:29 PM

They won. Let them have their hikes and see how it works out.

forest on November 7, 2012 at 5:29 PM

Give the people what they voted for…let the Bush tax cuts expire for EVERYONE, and see where that gets us.
changer1701 on November 7, 2012 at 5:24 PM

Indeed. The Democrats shell game will catch up to them. Just do it now and own the “mandate” Progressives.

conservative pilgrim on November 7, 2012 at 5:29 PM

I actually agree with him, there are plenty of tax loopholes that are counter-productive, close em.

rob verdi on November 7, 2012 at 5:29 PM

Bringing the real pain and suffering by taxes will be the only way one can learn not to touch the fire. Up to know nothing Obama has done is felt but now they will and let them be felt hard.

tjexcite on November 7, 2012 at 5:29 PM

Stop freaking out everyone. You’re giving Conservatives a bad name. You’re becoming unbearable. You do no service to the younger (people like myself) who want to remain Conservative (and will remain Conservative) but find it difficult to talk to folks.

Boehner was just being fluffy like you have to be immediately after any election. Calm the freak down.

I say call their bluff too. Let the tax rates expire. Let the process be ugly. Let the Democrats and Obama own this mess.

Midwestprincesse on November 7, 2012 at 5:29 PM

Sorry there John-boy – you’re on a fool’s errand.

We are now in that period of time where Thelma and Louise have gunned that ol’ Caddy off the cliff and are taking the scenic elevator to the economic Great Beyond.

There’s nothing left to do now but enjoy the scenery and turn up the rock & roll.

Bruno Strozek on November 7, 2012 at 5:30 PM

to hades!

light speed!

tom daschle concerned on November 7, 2012 at 5:30 PM

The voters returned to power the people who gave us the fiscal cliff. It’s time the voters got the fiscal cliff.

besser tot als rot on November 7, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Present. Everyone vote present and allow stuff to sail right through.

Thing is, I’m believing that even many demorats would shiite their pants if the GOP did this because they want bipartisan signage in case things go badly.

Bishop on November 7, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Warner Todd Huston on November 7, 2012 at 5:26 PM

Free people who choose to self-destruct deserve it.

Schadenfreude on November 7, 2012 at 5:30 PM

boehner was willing to go 800B..and barry refused. The ante to deal with barry just went way up…say 1.5T to start talking
.
barry wants to destroy the R party. If he and his press attaches can blame Rs for the fiscal cliff so much the better

boenher should throw the ‘rich’ people overboard…they mostly vote D anyway…overpaid professors etc. Let’s say 150K and above get a tax surcharge of 15 percent…and that goes up a certain breakpoints

boehner needs to do this for strategy reasons. take the bullet now. all other tax schemes that the left has in store are much worse.

in fact, just let the bush tax cuts expire…screw it. for most people it is a small deal (25 to 28)…low income will get back onto the tax rolls.

take the bullet now…we’ll all be better off in the future

r keller on November 7, 2012 at 5:31 PM

Here’s what no one has ever explained to me despite my impassioned pleas: since spending bills must start in the house, and we haven’t had a budget in four years, how was Obooba able to increase the deficits to trillion dollar levels?

Akzed on November 7, 2012 at 5:31 PM

Which means call their bluff. Vote present and get the ‘rats to own it completely, or vote present and watch the clown show as the ‘rats run around trying to explain why they don’t want to pass their own bills.

Bishop on November 7, 2012 at 5:31 PM

just raise the debt ceiling again… what’s the problem?

equanimous on November 7, 2012 at 5:33 PM

I say call their bluff too. Let the tax rates expire. Let the process be ugly. Let the Democrats and Obama own this mess.

Midwestprincesse on November 7, 2012 at 5:29 PM

+1000 *And a tip of the hat to you*

predator on November 7, 2012 at 5:33 PM

I propose a 75% tax rate on the rich. Starting with Hollywood stars, Mainstream Media personalities, NFL, NHL, MLB, NBA, players and anyone who works for Wall Street and makes over $1,000,000 a year. Afterall, at some point you have made enough money…amiright?

It won’t be a drop in the bucket as far as the money we need, but let them defend themselves and their exorbitant wages.

Tell Julia you can’t afford to payout 75% of your income, Barbara Walters, Beyonce’, and Jay’Z when you have been millionaires for years and she barely makes minimum wage.

Lily on November 7, 2012 at 5:33 PM

You know, I think this election was harder to bear than 08. At least then, I knew McCain had no shot, and Obama was simply going to be swept in.

I thought Romney had a chance – a real chance – to defeat Obama last night.

That makes it sting more.

Washington Nearsider on November 7, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Give the people what they voted for…let the Bush tax cuts expire for EVERYONE, and see where that gets us.

changer1701 on November 7, 2012 at 5:24 PM

This.

It’s the only way the idiots will learn.

JPeterman on November 7, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Doughboy on November 7, 2012 at 5:25 PM

The problem is they never run out of excuses. “Economy didn’t recover because of enough ‘investments’ in algae, ‘crumbling bridges and roads’”, etc.

I think Boehner should allow them to pass whatever they want to do, on the condition that every single House Democrat votes for it and every Senate Democrat votes for it (GOP will not filibuster). Whatever the minimum difference ends up being to reach House quorum, all of those R’s can vote nay, and it will pass.

The Count on November 7, 2012 at 5:36 PM

Which means call their bluff. Vote present and get the ‘rats to own it completely, or vote present and watch the clown show as the ‘rats run around trying to explain why they don’t want to pass their own bills.

Bishop on November 7, 2012 at 5:31 PM

Sounds good. They can just say they’re following Obama’s example.

darwin on November 7, 2012 at 5:36 PM

Stop freaking out everyone. You’re giving Conservatives a bad name.

Midwestprincesse on November 7, 2012 at 5:29 PM

Too late for the “name”.

Schadenfreude on November 7, 2012 at 5:36 PM

Honestly, I think it should happen. Boehner should say “America, you voted for Obama and a Dem Senate so here’s your bill. You want this government so you’re all going to have to pay for it.”

Mark1971 on November 7, 2012 at 5:37 PM

Give the people what they voted for…let the Bush tax cuts expire for EVERYONE, and see where that gets us.

changer1701 on November 7, 2012 at 5:24 PM

I think the House should give Obama everything he wants … like Bishop said, vote “present” on everything.

darwin on November 7, 2012 at 5:37 PM

Let them all eat cake…se where they get the ingredients from.

Don’t feed the beast. Let them starve.

Schadenfreude on November 7, 2012 at 5:37 PM

see where they get the stuff from.

Schadenfreude on November 7, 2012 at 5:38 PM

I have to admit, letting the “EVIL” Bush tax cuts expire for everyone has a certain appeal.

rob verdi on November 7, 2012 at 5:38 PM

Obama and Clinton told us how great it was under Dem leadership in the 90s. OK then, everybody gets their 90s tax rates back.

Mark1971 on November 7, 2012 at 5:38 PM

Taking a page out of Reagan’s book by calling increased taxes everything but.

And you fools keep voting for Republicans.

Dante on November 7, 2012 at 5:38 PM

100 percent chance the crybaby will fold.

100 percent chance.

Why does anyone listen to him anymore? He wears his kneepads 24/7 just in case Obama calls him to the oval office.

fire him now.

HondaV65 on November 7, 2012 at 5:39 PM

Washington Nearsider on November 7, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Voting for the same goof, expecting different results, is the definition of?

Schadenfreude on November 7, 2012 at 5:39 PM

The country is heading for a fiscal iceberg and the media is going to be sure that Capitalism and the “obstructive” GOP is blamed. The only course of action that might thwart this is to give the Democrats everything they want except a single bipartisan Republican vote.

DFCtomm on November 7, 2012 at 5:39 PM

I have to admit, letting the “EVIL” Bush tax cuts expire for everyone has a certain appeal.

rob verdi on November 7, 2012 at 5:38 PM

Actually, we’re going back to the Clinton tax increase.

darwin on November 7, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Hey…does the House control the funding for NPR?

DeathtotheSwiss on November 7, 2012 at 5:40 PM

That makes it sting more.

Washington Nearsider on November 7, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Wait until your parents start gloating.

Happy Nomad on November 7, 2012 at 5:40 PM

The only course of action that might thwart this is to give the Democrats everything they want except a single bipartisan Republican vote.

DFCtomm on November 7, 2012 at 5:39 PM

They must.

darwin on November 7, 2012 at 5:41 PM

I say call their bluff too. Let the tax rates expire. Let the process be ugly. Let the Democrats and Obama own this mess.

Midwestprincesse on November 7, 2012 at 5:29 PM

+1000 *And a tip of the hat to you*

predator on November 7, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Thank you.

2014 starts now.

Until the Dems can show me a viable candidate, I am not going to treat last night’s loss as anything more than a blip on the radar. It sucks. It hurts, but seriously… Hillary, Gillibrand and Biden as their future? Hahaha. Go for it.

Walker/Ryan or Walker/Rubio in 2016. Skip the primary process. Save the money. Done deal.

Midwestprincesse on November 7, 2012 at 5:41 PM

…suckers.

equanimous on November 7, 2012 at 5:41 PM

Any “deal” had better include approving a budget. No more blank checks.

munseym on November 7, 2012 at 5:41 PM

Here’s what no one has ever explained to me despite my impassioned pleas: since spending bills must start in the house, and we haven’t had a budget in four years, how was Obooba able to increase the deficits to trillion dollar levels?

Akzed on November 7, 2012 at 5:31 PM

Continuing resolution and debt limit hikes all with the cooperation of the GOP.

sharrukin on November 7, 2012 at 5:42 PM

Raise Taxes Now

Obama owns it. Make everyone feel it.

faraway on November 7, 2012 at 5:42 PM

Screw it. Give them everything they want, let them own it, and watch our economy collapse like Europe. When we are in a depression that makes 2007-2008 look like child’s play, we’ll say we told you so, and then maybe voters will recognize that their liberal keynesian economics don’t work and Krugman is a tool who wouldn’t know a dollar from a doorknob.

gravityman on November 7, 2012 at 5:43 PM

This.

It’s the only way the idiots will learn.

JPeterman on November 7, 2012 at 5:35 PM

You guys are starting to GET IT now!

Folks – we had nothing to lose last night – we had already lost it the day we elected big spender G.W. Bush to the oval office. We nailed the casket on our fate again when we elected Obama.

The nation is headed for a CRASH. Let it happen. Like an alcoholic, we have to hit rock bottom before can pick ourselves up again.

And we can now hit rock bottom – with obama in piloting the plane. He owns it when this plane goes down. It’s a much better situation than if Willard had won and been in seat when the crash came. With Willard as POTUS – you’d have been banished for a generation or two – completely heartbroken.

Now – with Obama – when the crash comes you’ll view it as an opportunity.

You should not be lamenting this loss – you should embrace it.

HondaV65 on November 7, 2012 at 5:44 PM

YOUR and your cohorts money FIRST, Boehner.

RealMc on November 7, 2012 at 5:44 PM

That makes it sting more.

Washington Nearsider on November 7, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Wait until your parents start gloating.

Happy Nomad on November 7, 2012 at 5:40 PM

It’s going to be awful. They’re they only people in their entire neighborhood to have Obama signs in their yard.

Not looking forward to Thanksgiving. As the only conservative at the table, it’ll be uncomfortable at best.

Washington Nearsider on November 7, 2012 at 5:44 PM

Do not allow Obama to hide the tax hikes in future QE and gas taxes.

Put them all in the open and raise the tax rates.

Do it now, it the name of bipartisanship.

faraway on November 7, 2012 at 5:45 PM

And you fools keep voting for Republicans.

Dante on November 7, 2012 at 5:38 PM

Go to Hell you effing bastard.

You supported Obama any way possible by your hatred of Romney for being too “not Ron Paul” for your tastes. You were thrilled with the military deaths in Afghanistan and did a happy dance.

So… We’ve got more years under the rat-eared bastard. Congrats or something you filthy America-hating traitor.

Happy Nomad on November 7, 2012 at 5:45 PM

Boehner should just stick his feet up on his desk and let them burn. The mob spoke yesterday. It’s theirs. He should have the easiest job on the Hill after this. The Republic is dead. Democracy will follow it soon enough. The GOP can’t stop it any more. Let ‘em have it.

Ozwitch on November 7, 2012 at 5:45 PM

Give the people what they voted for…let the Bush tax cuts expire for EVERYONE, and see where that gets us.

changer1701 on November 7, 2012 at 5:24 PM

This.

It’s the only way the idiots will learn.

JPeterman on November 7, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Reminds of the incessant whining from Republicans when Clinton raised taxes to balance the budget. There were predictions of recessions, depressions, massive job losses. Gore had to break a tied vote in the Senate. Clinton won.

In reality, the tax hikes boosted investor confidence and laid the groundwork for a long period of expansion. Many Republicans don’t understand the lessons of history.

bayam on November 7, 2012 at 5:46 PM

They must.

darwin on November 7, 2012 at 5:41 PM

They can follow Obama’s example and abstain from every vote. Give them what they want, except for a single bipartisan vote.

DFCtomm on November 7, 2012 at 5:46 PM

It would have been better if the dems won the house and they could tax to their heart’s content. They’ll be able to blame the Republicans for the coming disaster because of Republican obstructionism. They will call for more taxes with a Republican House than they would have passed with all Democrat congress because they need the Republicans to reject at least part of the tax hikes so that they can say it was that extra mile that the Republicans wouldn’t go that would have fixed the economy. It doesn’t need to be logical, it just needs to be something all Democrats can say all the time in lockstep that can’t be proved wrong. Republicans lose.

Buddahpundit on November 7, 2012 at 5:46 PM

The Spelunker of the House is preparing to do what he does best, cave…

Gohawgs on November 7, 2012 at 5:46 PM

I have to say that y’all impress me and make me mad at times. :)

I love ya like a fat kid loves tofu on top of cake.

Toughen your spines. Stay strong. The media and the Dems. would LOVE nothing but for this situation to crumble us. No. Do not let them do that.

Midwestprincesse on November 7, 2012 at 5:46 PM

maybe voters will recognize that their liberal keynesian economics don’t work and Krugman is a tool who wouldn’t know a dollar from a doorknob.

You’re assuming that elections will still be available by then?

Ozwitch on November 7, 2012 at 5:47 PM

taxes are the least of my worries. let them go sky high..they can be repealed later.

the GOP needs to get serious about why it exists. is it a social club? a pasture for old folks? Or just a bunch of cranks and incompetents that are all HAT and NO cattle?

like George Allen, Tommy Thompson, Todd Akin and so on….bunch of losers

wear it proud…Rs Lost seats in the Senate. Barry/Axe/Harry i’m sure are all ROFL…laughing so hard it hurts

r keller on November 7, 2012 at 5:48 PM

C’mon Boehner, let ALL the tax cuts expire. Let those folks paying more now for gas then they did send more to the guy they wanted, so he can “spread it around”. Let’s stifle job creators even further, so those young uns who voted for the cool kid find getting a job after graduation even harder.

Give the people what they want. It’s his moment, no?

changer1701 on November 7, 2012 at 5:48 PM

Boehner, not open to tax hikes but open to new revenue. Jeesh this the best the GOP has to offer for House speaker?

bgibbs1000 on November 7, 2012 at 5:48 PM

Give the people what they voted for…let the Bush tax cuts expire for EVERYONE, and see where that gets us.

changer1701 on November 7, 2012 at 5:24 PM

Amen. Won’t listen to reason? Fine, reap the whirlwind, bitches!

The quality of my sympathy for fools is at historic lows.

squint on November 7, 2012 at 5:48 PM

OT: If GOP turn out in Ohio was so fabulous with hours long lines, why did we lose it? Multiply that with other states. Did the poll watchers in these states lie? Does anybody read that Ulsterman site? He is suggesting a big fraud, others suggested that the base is looking for perfection and sat on its ass. Nothing makes sense today. Anyway, I am way less depressed than I expected to be.

clnurnberg on November 7, 2012 at 5:48 PM

Go ahead and raise taxes and call it raising taxes. Who cares. And go ahead and let us fall off the supposed fiscal cliff. What matters is Obamacare. It’s coming. Concentrate on making sure that the cancer is removable. A very good piece by Keith Koffler puts it this way:

Obamacare is now here to stay. The United States will move inexorably toward socialized medicine, and the quality of health care for all will begin to decline irrevocably.

NO! The people forget about Obamacare pretty much and we have to fight it and keep up the PAC ads all next year and all 4 years to come about the coming horrors of Obamacare’s implementation. Come 2016 we have maybe a final chance to remove the cancer, despite the starts and fits of it taking hold.

anotherJoe on November 7, 2012 at 5:48 PM

Watched him live.

Before everyone flips

He said lowering rates, closing loopholes, expanding tax base.

Just what Ryan said.

blatantblue on November 7, 2012 at 5:22 PM

blatantblue is correct. Boehner also pushed to reform the tax code. Big ideas.

I’m not a Boehner fan but I agree with this approach.

crash72 on November 7, 2012 at 5:49 PM

It’s going to be awful. They’re they only people in their entire neighborhood to have Obama signs in their yard.

Not looking forward to Thanksgiving. As the only conservative at the table, it’ll be uncomfortable at best.

Washington Nearsider on November 7, 2012 at 5:44 PM

I’m doing a drive-by Thanksgiving. My parents are conservative but too many of the family are not. I can’t be civil so I’m going to make an apperance (only because it would be noted if I didn’t) and then leave.

Happy Nomad on November 7, 2012 at 5:49 PM

In reality, the tax hikes boosted investor confidence and laid the groundwork for a long period of expansion. Many Republicans don’t understand the lessons of history.

bayam on November 7, 2012 at 5:46 PM

Why didn’t Obama raise taxes when democrats held the House and Senate then?

Also, if tax hikes are so great, let’s go across the board … 10%. That should really boost investor confidence

darwin on November 7, 2012 at 5:50 PM

Many Republicans don’t understand the lessons of history.

bayam on November 7, 2012 at 5:46 PM

You actually say this after yesterday’s election?

ROFL

Then hike up those taxes, the more the better, and watch the economy prosper as never before.

Bishop on November 7, 2012 at 5:50 PM

When the Dems complain that the tax hikes would hurt the lower and middle class, we respond by saying wait a minute, we thought the Bush tax cuts only favored the wealthy.

Mark1971 on November 7, 2012 at 5:50 PM

Give the people what they voted for…let the Bush tax cuts expire for EVERYONE, and see where that gets us.

changer1701 on November 7, 2012 at 5:24 PM

This and I’d add let the sequestration happen. If it’s not painful for the voters we’ll never get enough people to care to put a stop to the madness.

buckichick1 on November 7, 2012 at 5:50 PM

50 plus percent of American voters are stomachs and/or genitalia with voter registration cards. Last night proved this. They are not persuadable, and they need to have bigger things to think about than selling more statist policies or texting on their 0bamaphones.

That which cannot be converted or persuaded can be de-funded by the House, who holds the purse strings. De-fund any federal enforcement of online piracy laws. They only defend the profits of Hollywood, the music industry, and Silicon Valley. Let the ones who helped sell free contraception try to sell the idea that music and movies should not also be free. Do whatever with student loans that will be sure to pop the loan bubble. Academia is unpersuadable. Let them deal with a WyMyn’s Studies Department that has metastasized to take over a whole academic building once the bubble pops. Cut the 0bamaphone. A cell phone does not even have to have a service active to be able to call 9-1-1. Many womens’ shelters give out old inactive cell phones for this very reason. The original purpose of the program that evolved into 0bamaphone was to be sure poor people had enough land-line service to be able to call 9-1-1 in the event of an emergency. If Welfareena can call 9-1-1 if she sees a prowler, the purpose of the program is fulfilled, no cell plan necessary.

Sekhmet on November 7, 2012 at 5:50 PM

Screw it. Give them everything they want, let them own it,

gravityman on November 7, 2012 at 5:43 PM

No, no, no. Let them have the bad, and fight for the good.

Let them have higher taxes. Fight for everything else.

faraway on November 7, 2012 at 5:51 PM

Since the Republicans just lost to the worst, most failed presidential candidate that they will ever face, doesn’t every unelected Republican need to lose his position of power, starting with Boehner, Preibus and McConnell?

Buddahpundit on November 7, 2012 at 5:51 PM

Paul krugman says high taxes are great for an economy. What more do you need?

darwin on November 7, 2012 at 5:51 PM

Good grief Boehner, we don’t have a revenue problem. We have a “SPENDING PROBLEM”.

Alabama Infidel on November 7, 2012 at 5:51 PM

changer1701 on November 7, 2012 at 5:48 PM

I agree, just let him show his true plans. Worked for Mondale, no? Anyway, he will try something. JUst let the dems own it all.

clnurnberg on November 7, 2012 at 5:52 PM

Midwestprincesse on November 7, 2012 at 5:46 PM

No way I’m going to let this collection of Marxists keep me down. I’m in a bit of a funk now, but I’m starting to concentrate on fiscally surviving the next few years, which I will do come hell or high water.

For now, I’m going to look out for number 1 and then re-join the fray when it’s time.

But I am pretty much done with the GOP. I’ve lost faith in the establishment completely.

Give me a legit, conservative third party and I’m in. Sure we’ll lose early on, but we’re losing now with the GOP.

predator on November 7, 2012 at 5:52 PM

I’m going to repeat my original post.

Boehner was talking closing loopholes, lowering rates, expanding base.

Exactly what R.R proposed this year.

blatantblue on November 7, 2012 at 5:52 PM

Boehner, not open to tax hikes but open to new revenue. Jeesh this the best the GOP has to offer for House speaker?

bgibbs1000 on November 7, 2012 at 5:48 PM

Be fair. We just had an election where the rat-eared wonder got a second term. What do you suppose the headlines would look like if Boehner was more strident?

The media created the rat-eared wonder. The media gave it a second term. Facts will destroy all that but not if Boehner or any opponent makes the claim that the GOP will not work with the President.

Happy Nomad on November 7, 2012 at 5:54 PM

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