Dean: Obama can’t lose Ohio — unless it’s because of voter suppression, of course

posted at 3:41 pm on November 6, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

On MSNBC this morning, former governor of Vermont and DNC chairman Howard Dean affirmed his belief that, when it comes to Obama in Ohio, there’s simply no way the man could lose given the state of the [early] vote and the polls — which seems odd, because the last time I checked, the early vote is looking pretty fair for Romney and the polls have the candidates in a dead heat in Ohio.

There’s some reports in Ohio… of voting machines that aren’t working in Toledo and Dayton and Cleveland and some reports of voter harassment in the Philadelphia area. So I think, actually, the president’s going to win this if we have a fair election. … Yep, it’s a problem. … Given the vote and the leading of the polls in Ohio, the only way he can lose is if people are prevented from casting their ballots, either by voting machines that aren’t functioning right or other forms of harassment.

Firstly, I wonder if he actually meant to conclude quite what he did — voting problems are the only possible way that Romney could win Ohio? Really? Also, there have been reports of some sketchy election goings-on in Pennsylvania, but they’re of the sort that would be favorable to a Barack Obama victory. And secondly, I think we can all agree that voting-machine malfunctions (whether accidental or intentional), voter intimidation, and other forms of voter suppression are indeed real things that exist in the physical world, and are absolutely unacceptable in any shape, manner, or form. But if we can all agree that real efforts at voter suppression exist, why can’t Democrats seem to accept the notion that voter fraud is a real thing, too? If they can acknowledge that it’s possible people might use certain methods of cheating to influence election outcomes, why aren’t all methods of cheating treated with equal scrutiny?

For example, here’s some news fresh out of California, via NBC:

An NBC Bay Area Investigation has uncovered thousands of California voters who remain on the voter rolls despite having  died several years ago.

That discovery prompted several state and Bay Area election officials to re-examine their records, after our investigation brought this issue to light. …

A closer look at the data revealed that some of the dead people were not only registered, but somehow, even voted, several years after their death. Sometimes, clerks say the mistake can purely be a clerical error, such as a misplaced signature or an outdated registration list that hadn’t been purged. Other times, though, the voting turns out to be fraud, clerks say, where family members vote on their dead relatives’ behalf.

Yes, but voter-ID laws are baseless, racist attempts to disenfranchise minorities and the poor. Riiiight.


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Isn’t that always the case any time a Democrat loses an election?

aunursa on November 6, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Howard Dean should be asked to explain this incident:

http://www.menrec.com/2012/11/poll-worker-tells-us-senate-candidate.html

PolAgnostic on November 6, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Demorat Rule #1:

If the demorat wins then the people have spoken with wisdom and intelligence.

If the Republican wins then someone cheated.

Bishop on November 6, 2012 at 3:44 PM

YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!

Ward Cleaver on November 6, 2012 at 3:44 PM

And here I was all ready to be hit with the “because you people are racists” excuse. What a letdown.

search4truth on November 6, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Yearghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

NotCoach on November 6, 2012 at 3:44 PM

I just voted in Ohio at 2PM. My county is traditionally purple with the section I am in more GOP. In 2008 I had to wait in a line of about 20 people. Today it was more like 250.

William Amos on November 6, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Democrats always tell you who they are by what they accuse others of doing.

Special Forces and Navy SEALS Head to Polls, Counter Black Panther Presence

INC on November 6, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Laying the groundwork. This is why Romney needs to win outside the margin of lawyer.

Ellis on November 6, 2012 at 3:45 PM

And here I was all ready to be hit with the “because you people are racists” excuse. What a letdown.

search4truth on November 6, 2012 at 3:44 PM

An accusation of voter suppression is the same thing.

NotCoach on November 6, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Hey, Crazy cousin Howard! R&R are going to win Ohio, and Indiana, and North Carolina, and Iowa, and Florida and we’re going to take back the White House! YEAAAAAAARRRRGGGGHHH!!!!!!

Benedict Nelson on November 6, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Same goes with Howard Dean and the Iowa Caucus. And all the other states he screamed about after the caucus was over.

levi on November 6, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Dean’s a clown.

wargamer6 on November 6, 2012 at 3:46 PM

A few years ago I came under the impression Dean was insane.I now know my earlier impressions were right.

docflash on November 6, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Dean people suck…

Caper29 on November 6, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Yearghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

NotCoach on November 6, 2012 at 3:44 PM

GMTA!

Ward Cleaver on November 6, 2012 at 3:46 PM

wonder how the people of ohio feel about the fact that it’s already been preordained that obama will win their state.

jetch on November 6, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Now we see why the polls kept increasing their Dem sample, so they would stay close so when Romney wins all these states by 3-4 points the only reason to cry about is imagniary fraud.

The fact Dean is already saying this tells me they know they don’t have the numbers to win.

cadams on November 6, 2012 at 3:47 PM

OT Christ Christie is just despicable.

What a sellout shill for Obama.

Disgusting.

PappyD61 on November 6, 2012 at 3:47 PM

RNC update on OH (per David Limbaugh on Twitter):

GOP turnout is up 125% (!) in Geuga County (which McCain won 57%)
Dem turnout is down 10% in Athens County (which Obama won 67%)

Norwegian on November 6, 2012 at 3:47 PM

AND NO ONE CALLS HIM OUT on it…where is your proof idiot

cmsinaz on November 6, 2012 at 3:48 PM

GMTA!

Ward Cleaver on November 6, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Or demented minds. :P

NotCoach on November 6, 2012 at 3:48 PM

who cheats? horowitz tells us: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyBfAqcSDmY

Dr. Demento on November 6, 2012 at 3:48 PM

OT Christ Christie is just despicable.

What a sellout shill for Obama.

Disgusting.

PappyD61 on November 6, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Mark Levin tweet: Hey Chris, time to shut the hell up.

levi on November 6, 2012 at 3:48 PM

RNC update on OH (per David Limbaugh on Twitter):

GOP turnout is up 125% (!) in Geuga County (which McCain won 57%)
Dem turnout is down 10% in Athens County (which Obama won 67%)

Norwegian on November 6, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Keep the good news coming! Right on!

Turtle317 on November 6, 2012 at 3:48 PM

I like how he says “some reports of voter harassment in the Philadelphia area” and just leaves it to the viewer to infer that Republicans are somehow harassing voters in Democrat districts, notwithstanding the fact that the harassment in question is on the part of our good friends in the New Black Panther Party.

Also no mention, I notice, of poll workers being thrown out of polling places in that city.

The Schaef on November 6, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Sad to say, I’m actually a (very) distant cousin of this bozo, through a common ancestor on the Mayflower. This is offset, however, by the fact that I am also related to Sarah Palin (through the same common ancestor).

Benedict Nelson on November 6, 2012 at 3:49 PM

“Voter suppression” as defined by the DNC dictionary:

n.: any polling place that doesn’t operate like that 7-Eleven down the street from your house that sells liquor to minors.

Glenn Jericho on November 6, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Bishop on November 6, 2012 at 3:44 PM

+100

cmsinaz on November 6, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Dr. Dean should be ashamed of himself.
Crying fraud just as voting gets underway.
And to imply that ONLY Democrats are affected is ignorant.
Irresponsible at best.

Jabberwock on November 6, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Voter suppression ?
Is that when Obama-thugs CAN’T vote multiple times ?
Or
Is that when ILLEGALS are not allowed to vote ?

burrata on November 6, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Howard forgot to wear his helmet on the bike path again.

NoDonkey on November 6, 2012 at 3:50 PM

The Schaef on November 6, 2012 at 3:49 PM

crickets

cmsinaz on November 6, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Sad to say, I’m actually a (very) distant cousin of this bozo, through a common ancestor on the Mayflower. This is offset, however, by the fact that I am also related to Sarah Palin (through the same common ancestor).

Benedict Nelson on November 6, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Yeargghhhghhhhhhhhhhhhh-panel!

NotCoach on November 6, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Laying the groundwork. This is why Romney needs to win outside the margin of lawyer.

Ellis on November 6, 2012 at 3:45 PM

I like that. Margin of Lawyer.

SparkPlug on November 6, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Interesting article about how foreign observers to the elections in D.C. are amazed at our “faith based” approach to voter ID.

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/11/06/foreign_election_officials_amazed_by_trust_based_us_voting_system

JeremiahJohnson on November 6, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Demorat Rule #1:

If the demorat wins then the people have spoken with wisdom and intelligence.

If the Republican wins then someone cheated.

Bishop on November 6, 2012 at 3:44 PM

…or you’re a racist. Whatever fits.

Matticus Finch on November 6, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Dean is a slimy leftist puke and a blithering idiot. He and Christie need to learn how to keep their mouths shut.

rplat on November 6, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Oh…and suck it, Howard.

Matticus Finch on November 6, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Obama can’t lose Ohio — unless it’s because Hairy Reed is a pedophile.

SparkPlug on November 6, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Howard Dean doesn’t even believe himself. He knows that the average Dim voter is an idiot and will swallow it like a cheap wh0re.

NapaConservative on November 6, 2012 at 3:52 PM

SO not only are we racists, we are CHEATING racists. Man we are so evil. I can’t believe how evil we are.

Lily on November 6, 2012 at 3:53 PM

This reaction is comical! They can read the polls! The early voting Talley’s must be bad for Obama.

jjnco73 on November 6, 2012 at 3:53 PM

I like that. Margin of Lawyer.

SparkPlug on November 6, 2012 at 3:51 PM

I call it MOLE – Margin Of Lawyer’s Excuses

Turtle317 on November 6, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Well, it’s not like Ohio has a Republican Governor, Republican Legislature, or…
Oh, wait.

Dexter_Alarius on November 6, 2012 at 3:53 PM

LANDfreakinSLIDE

faraway on November 6, 2012 at 3:53 PM

What has forever bugged me about Howard Dean is that this assclown is supposed to also be a doctor!

Can anyone imagine having someone as mean-spirited a person as Howard Dean as your doctor?

pilamaye on November 6, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Dean knows full well that obama is going to lose BIG in Ohio and nation-wide.

Pork-Chop on November 6, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Neither e-v nor 538 have Ohio as a dead-head – one poll != all polls.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2012/Pres/Graphs/ohio.html

… Can’t find a way to link to 538, but it has *one* poll since Halloween that has Romney ahead.

What dead heat?

A Axe on November 6, 2012 at 3:53 PM

JeremiahJohnson on November 6, 2012 at 3:51 PM

I read that. I think what amazes them the most is the fact that we don’t have a top down, centrally controlled, gestapo style election system.

NotCoach on November 6, 2012 at 3:53 PM

gloria borger thinks the provisional ballot rule is confusing…ummmm they just need to pop in their ssn or drivers license number and the voter has to write it in instead of the poll worker

idiot

cmsinaz on November 6, 2012 at 3:54 PM

Howard forgot to wear his helmet on the bike path again.

NoDonkey on November 6, 2012 at 3:50 PM

FYP – Howard forgot to wear his helmet with the tin foil antenna on top while on the bike path again.

They’ll give anyone a doctorate these days.

EdmundBurke247 on November 6, 2012 at 3:54 PM

Hey, Crazy cousin Howard! R&R are going to win Ohio, and Indiana, and North Carolina, and Iowa, and Florida and we’re going to take back the White House! YEAAAAAAARRRRGGGGHHH!!!!!!

Benedict Nelson on November 6, 2012 at 3:45 PM

I’ll never forget Howard Dean’s “I Have a Scream” speech.

*Sigh* Seems like it was only yesterday. (wiping away a tear)

Mitoch55 on November 6, 2012 at 3:55 PM

What’s despicable about Chris Christie is the fact that he CRIED when Bruce Springsteen called him from Air Force One on the way to Columbus Ohio for an obama rally. It almost makes me think he put on that entire act to get Springsteen’s attention

justonevictory on November 6, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Howard Dean is an idiot.

Terrye on November 6, 2012 at 3:55 PM

What has forever bugged me about Howard Dean is that this assclown is supposed to also be a doctor!

He’s a cranial proctologist.

NoDonkey on November 6, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Hey Howard, can you keep a secret?

You guys are so correct about how we suppress the vote, but its so obvious you miss it while you chase the ghost turds we leave for you. You see, we cheat so honestly and openly that you’ll never recognize it as cheating.

How do we do it? We send people to the polls to vote legally….but slowly. You may not be aware of it, but there is no restriction on how long you can take to vote. You only get one vote, but you can stand there all day in that booth making up your mind. Its just like that slow driver at rush hour. Imagine what it would be like if there was a granny in each lane….

Once we get squatters in every booth in a precinct…its all over. Remember those long lines in Ohio in every election for the past decade? Thats us.

Winning!

BobMbx on November 6, 2012 at 3:56 PM

First round of exit polling should be released from the “Quarantine Room” in about 4 minutes, no?

portlandon on November 6, 2012 at 3:56 PM

people shouldn’t have to wait in line 4 hours….

puhleeze

cmsinaz on November 6, 2012 at 3:56 PM

once every 4 years…it’s ok

cmsinaz on November 6, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Another also ran – as usual running his lips..I swear his nose is growing…..

Drudge is really quiet today –

not-ur-avragejoe on November 6, 2012 at 3:57 PM

I hope Dick Morris’ predictions of a smashing Romney victory are correct. Morris also predicted that UN election “observers” would credit Romney’s victory to black voter “suppression”. Translation: Police disarmed menacing Black Panther militants, wielding machetes and baseball bats and physically threatening white voters at polling places.

MaiDee on November 6, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Another also ran – as usual running his lips..I swear his nose is growing…..

Drudge is really quiet today –

not-ur-avragejoe on November 6, 2012 at 3:57 PM

That’s the calm before the storm.

Doughboy on November 6, 2012 at 3:57 PM

If you’re ever in Canton Ohio, get the best fish sandwich at Tim’s Tavern. Get a Genesee Cream Ale too.

Ah, childhood memories… Back in the 70′s, we drank beer at Tim’s, and the Elk’s Lodge before we were teenagers just because my grandfather said it was okay.

I love our country and I love the non-PC things that made growing up so great!!!

Now I employ hundreds. Go Mitt. Go Paul.

patman77 on November 6, 2012 at 3:58 PM

That’s the calm before the storm.

Doughboy on November 6, 2012 at 3:57 PM

*sniffing the air* Do I smell Kraken?

Turtle317 on November 6, 2012 at 3:58 PM

OT Christ Christie is just despicable.

What a sellout shill for Obama.

Disgusting.

PappyD61 on November 6, 2012 at 3:47 PM

I’m on my wits’ end trying to figure why he’s doing that. If Obama promised to hand out relief funds to NJ, he’s likely lying – and I’m sure Romney would be as happy to hand it. Christie is burying his future in the GOP with his own hands; my only assumption is that he is afraid of Booker’s challenge in 2013, and plans to jump ship.

Archivarix on November 6, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Norwegian on November 6, 2012 at 3:47 PM

my only concern is how many early votes came in those low turnout dem counties….

cmsinaz on November 6, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Drudge is really quiet today –

not-ur-avragejoe on November 6, 2012 at 3:57 PM

ALL the news sites are quiet today. The calm before the storm… It’s gonna be a Category 5 Romneycane

Longing4Lincoln on November 6, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Obama can’t lose Ohio — unless it’s because Hairy Reed is a pedophile.

SparkPlug on November 6, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Oops… I guess Oiho is lost to O’Bummer then…

SWalker on November 6, 2012 at 3:59 PM

He’s a cranial proctologist.

NoDonkey on November 6, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Winner!

D-fusit on November 6, 2012 at 3:59 PM

If Obama can’t lose Ohio then the voters should just stay home. I know I’m staying home in California as my vote doesn’t count.

Ditkaca on November 6, 2012 at 3:59 PM

OT Christ Christie is just despicable.

What a sellout shill for Obama.

Disgusting.

PappyD61 on November 6, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Wouldn’t expect anything less from NJ.

tetriskid on November 6, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Voted in Cuyahoga County this a.m. No one made eye contact. Love the Amish here I had one working at my house last week and when I asked him if he was voting on Tuesday he said..You better believe it! It was definitely a Romney vote response!

justonevictory on November 6, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Howard forgot to wear his helmet on the bike path again.

NoDonkey on November 6, 2012 at 3:50 PM

How would that have changed anything?

chemman on November 6, 2012 at 3:59 PM

sorry, forgot the sarcasm tag

Ditkaca on November 6, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Interesting article about how foreign observers to the elections in D.C. are amazed at our “faith based” approach to voter ID.

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/11/06/foreign_election_officials_amazed_by_trust_based_us_voting_system

JeremiahJohnson on November 6, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Someone should tell these 3rd world degenerates in expensive suits that here in USA,
we go inside the grocery store and pay for the items which are sitting in bins outside the grocery store :O
Honor system does not exist anywhere in these 3rd world hellholes.
Soon we will be joining them :(

burrata on November 6, 2012 at 4:01 PM

It is to my eternal shame that this moonbat Dean and I graduated from the same medical school.

merlich on November 6, 2012 at 4:02 PM

There’s some reports in Ohio… of voting machines that aren’t working in Toledo and Dayton and Cleveland and some reports of voter harassment in the Philadelphia area.

Like touch-screen machines that post a vote for Obama when a voter pushes the Romney button, or Black Panthers harrassing white voters in Philly? How would that help Romney?

A closer look at the data revealed that some of the dead people were not only registered, but somehow, even voted, several years after their death. Sometimes, clerks say the mistake can purely be a clerical error, such as a misplaced signature or an outdated registration list that hadn’t been purged. Other times, though, the voting turns out to be fraud, clerks say, where family members vote on their dead relatives’ behalf.

A popular T-shirt in Texas says that after good people die, they go to Texas (instead of Heaven). Maybe good California Democrats die and vote in Ohio. /sarc

Steve Z on November 6, 2012 at 4:02 PM

wolfie excited about the exit polls

cmsinaz on November 6, 2012 at 4:02 PM

If the Republican wins then someone cheated.

Bishop on November 6, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Or if the nation is “throwing a temper tantrum”.

revolutionismyname on November 6, 2012 at 4:03 PM

Drudge has cleared the decks

faraway on November 6, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Howard Dean is a disgrace… On the DIMocrat Mt. Rushmore…

Khun Joe on November 6, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Listening to my favorite Rock Station right now…

Appropriate: AC DC – Thunderstruck!!!!

We need a rock tune for the Victory tonight!

Anything but We Are the Champions…

Suggestions?

not-ur-avragejoe on November 6, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Someone should tell these 3rd world degenerates in expensive suits that here in USA,
we go inside the grocery store and pay for the items which are sitting in bins outside the grocery store :O
Honor system does not exist anywhere in these 3rd world hellholes.
Soon we will be joining them :(

burrata on November 6, 2012 at 4:01 PM

That would be a waste of time. They would have no point of reference to interpret what you said.

A grocery store? Whats that? Besides, we get our food from a UN truck, delivered right to the neighborhood corner for free.

BobMbx on November 6, 2012 at 4:05 PM

On exit polls: I predict the MSM will spin the exit polls as being overwhelming for Obama therefore Teh Won will be the winner. Does anyone disagree? Beuller?

Turtle317 on November 6, 2012 at 4:06 PM

This will be a lawyers wet dream.

PS: Anyone else notice, as usual, DRUDGE reporting really sucks when the rubber meets the road?

Mr. Arrogant on November 6, 2012 at 4:06 PM

If Obama can’t lose Ohio then the voters should just stay home. I know I’m staying home in California as my vote doesn’t count.

Ditkaca on November 6, 2012 at 3:59 PM

From one californian to another: this should be your last post here then. You’re definitely part of the problem Sir/Mam.

NapaConservative on November 6, 2012 at 4:07 PM

I’m going out on a limb here………I think Obama is going to win tonight.

And I hope I’m very very wrong.

PappyD61 on November 6, 2012 at 4:07 PM

JUST ONE VICTORY BY: TODD RUNDGREN….that is the victory song!

justonevictory on November 6, 2012 at 4:07 PM

He’s a cranial proctologist.

NoDonkey on November 6, 2012 at 3:56 PM
Winner!

D-fusit on November 6, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Physician, heal thyself!

NoDonkey on November 6, 2012 at 4:07 PM

On exit polls: I predict the MSM will spin the exit polls as being overwhelming for Obama therefore Teh Won will be the winner. Does anyone disagree? Beuller?

Turtle317 on November 6, 2012 at 4:06 PM

I think most people here listen to Rush too.

Mr. Arrogant on November 6, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Another also ran – as usual running his lips..I swear his nose is growing…..

Drudge is really quiet today –

not-ur-avragejoe on November 6, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Drudge got burned posting exit polls in 2004 showing a Kerry landslide, which were later found to be way off. While the Obama win in 2008 was pretty much a foregone conclusion, the 2012 election is very competitive, and Drudge probably doesn’t want to go out on a limb before the votes are counted.

Steve Z on November 6, 2012 at 4:08 PM

From one californian to another: this should be your last post here then. You’re definitely part of the problem Sir/Mam.

NapaConservative on November 6, 2012 at 4:07 PM

As another Californian, I second that…

SWalker on November 6, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Lots of sad Democrats right now on MSNBC trying to put on a brave face. :-)

Punchenko on November 6, 2012 at 4:09 PM

From one californian to another: this should be your last post here then. You’re definitely part of the problem Sir/Mam.

NapaConservative on November 6, 2012 at 4:07 PM

I forgot the sarcasm tag.

No worries…I was first one at the poll this morning. We have some serious propositions to handle this go around.

Ditkaca on November 6, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Dean affirmed his belief that, when it comes to Obama in Ohio, there’s simply no way the man could lose given the state of the [early] vote and the polls

Dean knows Ohio is a ‘must win’, ergo Obama can only lose by fraud. He’s evidently forgotten that ACORN is dead.

GarandFan on November 6, 2012 at 4:11 PM

neil cavuto talking to the voter who reported the obama mural and the lousy coverup they did

cmsinaz on November 6, 2012 at 4:12 PM

I know I’m staying home in California as my vote doesn’t count.

Ditkaca on November 6, 2012 at 3:59 PM

I know it is true, but we still must vote, and defeat Prop 30 and win Prop 32.

burrata on November 6, 2012 at 4:12 PM

If the demorat wins then the people have spoken with wisdom and intelligence.

If the Republican wins then someone cheated.

That HAS to be the case, dems have superior numbers, so obviously the only way the GOP wins IS by cheating!!!

/sarc

hawkeye54 on November 6, 2012 at 4:12 PM

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