8 pm: Florida, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire

posted at 7:31 pm on November 6, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

Of the eighteen states with polling stations closing within the 8 — 8:59 PM Eastern window, the three we’re concerned about, of course, are Florida (29), Pennsylvania (20), and New Hampshire (4).

As Allahpundit summed up in his handy-dandy Electoral Math Made Easy primer yesterday, winning Florida is basically a prerequisite for the Romney campaign; its 29 electoral votes may be too many to do without. Fortunately, Romney’s maintained one of his better leaning-red battleground commands in Florida, along with North Carolina, and many polls have Romney winning with the senior demographic. As for Senate races, we’ve got Connie Mack (R) v. Bill Nelson (D), and the polls have all been steadily leaning in Nelson’s favor. Check their state returns here.

New Hampshire’s four electoral votes last went Republican for G.W. in 2000, but Obama’s only averaging a slim lead there — will the lack of anti-Bush sentiment of 2004 and the lack of Hopenchange of 2008 be enough to flip them back to red? No Senate races here, but they are running a governor’s race between Ovide Lamontagne (R) and Maggie Hassan (D), which is leaning Democratic.

Pennsylvania’s the biggest toss-up of this group — they’ve gone blue in the presidential vote for decades now, but they’re perfectly capable of voting red down the ticket, which they did in 2010. After various accusations of Romney’s “flailing” “desperation” from various members of Team O, Obama deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter acknowledged last night that the contest for Pennsylvania has definitely tightened, and Romney’s recent campaign push into the state has had them visibly nervous. As Allahpundit also already pointed out in his thread, word on the street is that the “bitter clingers” are showing up in relatively full force in the rural counties that Romney will likely need to overcome an urban deficit. Their Senate race, Tom Smith (R) v. Bob Casey (D) has been leaning Democratic, and here’s their state returns page, for you viewing pleasure.

I’ll keep you updated on these states here as the results roll in, and for some live updates and analysis, be sure to tune in and listen to Ed on the Hugh Hewitt show!

Update: The polls are officially closed, but as President Obama helpfully reminds us, if you’re in line when the polls close, you’re still good to vote — and it’s looking like certain Florida lines are still long. This could take awhile.

Update: Yup, via Politico:

Voting is continuing into the night Tuesday at a condo tower south of downtown here where “Hispanics for Obama” placards compete with an anti-communist poster taped to a palmetto bush — and where some residents say they’ve waited as long six hours to cast their ballots. …

“It’s not going well at all,” Miami-Dade County Mayor Carlos Gimenez said as he trudged through the parking lot while people in the parking lot yelled, “Shame on you” and “Venezuela runs better elections.”

Hundreds more were still waitng in a line snaking through the parking lot well past the official 7 p.m. EST closing time for the polls. (Polls close an hour later for Florida Panhandle counties that are on Central Time.)

Update: Chuck Todd just offered the rundown of the numbers coming in in Florida for NBC — Democrats are officially leading with the early vote tally, but not by nearly as much as Obama’s 2008 totals. Todd also noted that experts on both sides are predicting the state could come down to a difference of less than 100,000 votes, and thinks that, if it should come down to less than 50,000 votes, we could be looking at legal challenges. Oof.

Update: Bill Nelson, the Democrat, won his third term in Florida’s Senate seat over Connie Mack.

Update: They’ve just called Pennsylvania — it’s going blue.

Update: Fox News is calling New Hampshire for Obama, and the networks are saying that Florida is resting on a knife’s edge with 84% reporting.

Update: Aaaand, it looks like the fate of Florida’s votes won’t matter, as the networks are calling Ohio for Obama, meaning he’ll have passed the threshold of necessary electoral votes.


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Bishop, would like to be a part of the online meeting for discussing strategies. How do we communicate outside of HA?

texasmagnolia on November 7, 2012 at 12:42 AM

You guys want an online venue, I can code it in a few days.

Axe on November 7, 2012 at 12:49 AM

*It would normally be a few hours, but . . . you know.

Axe on November 7, 2012 at 12:50 AM

We are screwed. I certainly am not going to work at the jail anymore. Going Galt is an understatement. Well I guess 50% percent of the country realized they can vote themselves money from national treasury.

Bye bye miss American pie

Fett on November 7, 2012 at 12:50 AM

Do the right thing for the right reason always. If you’ve done right thing sleep soundly. We’re only passing through.

bluesdoc70 on November 7, 2012 at 12:50 AM

Michele Bachmann and Allen West fighting for their lives; Bachmann up by <200 votes w/ 52% reporting, West down 2000 w/ 97% reporting. Time for some major, major GOP soul-searching.

Alpha_Male on November 7, 2012 at 12:40 AM

Soul searching? The thing is, the conservatives are still right and the liberals are still wrong even though conservatives lost tonight. Facts don’t change just because most of people don’t believe them to be facts. Republicans might change into liberals because they can’t win any other way, but life in America is going to continue to get worse and kick it all down the road until the tipping point hits and by then it will be far too late to change it. I hate to say it but this is the beginning of a very dark time for our country.

Dollayo on November 7, 2012 at 12:50 AM

hawkdriver on November 6, 2012 at 11:47 PM
Bye.

Alpha_Male on November 7, 2012 at 12:46 AM

You don’t have to say Bye. I’ll still be here, using all there is to use in the system. I’m not going anywhere.

hawkdriver on November 7, 2012 at 12:51 AM

It’s painful to watch, but the entire system must now crash before we have another chance at a decent country again. In the meantime, love your families. Do NOT let the hatred that is the left ruin your pursuit of a happy life. God is so much bigger than this little game we play down here on earth.

8thAirForce on November 7, 2012 at 12:52 AM

hawkdriver on November 7, 2012 at 12:40 AM

Is that an open invitation?

Solaratov on November 7, 2012 at 12:53 AM

bayam on November 7, 2012 at 12:42 AM

Talk about raising taxes all you want, it will not make a dent in the deficit. CBO estimated repealing the Bush tax cuts for the “wealthy” would raise 800 billion in 10 years. The Obama deficit for 2012 alone is one and a half times that. All tax increases will do is hurt the economy. What we really need is growth and entitlement reform. That’s the only way to tackle the deficit.
Have you considered your “progressive entrepreneurs” are so wealthy and tax sheltered they don’t care about tax increases? It’s the small businesses that will suffer and the aspiring middle class. It’s called pulling up the ladder once you have reached the top. And beware of corporatists getting cosy with government. Usually what they are after is corporate welfare, government contracts and especially government regulations that prevent competitors from growing.

breffnian on November 7, 2012 at 12:53 AM

Welcome to the Hard Way.

The new state of America.

Voted in by popular delusion.

Sometimes people can only learn by taking things to their illogical conclusions.

It will not end well.

Off to other fights.

Good luck.

profitsbeard on November 7, 2012 at 12:55 AM

Romney speaking.

Ronnie on November 7, 2012 at 12:55 AM

hawkdriver on November 7, 2012 at 12:40 AM
Is that an open invitation?

Solaratov on November 7, 2012 at 12:53 AM

Oh you bet. Give me till tomorrow to check the mail, but anyone who wants to write, send me a note.

hawkdriver on November 7, 2012 at 12:56 AM

You just conflated corporate and personal income taxes. Different things.

bayam on November 7, 2012 at 12:42 AM

You cut off the last part of his statement (which is typical of leftists).
It’s B-H that owes the $$Billion plus in taxes. Not warren..personally.

You leftists really would rather climb a tree to tell a lie than stay on the ground and tell the truth.

Solaratov on November 7, 2012 at 12:58 AM

8thAirForce on November 7, 2012 at 12:52 AM

Speaking of BAFB, my kid isn’t going to take tonight well. :) He was already having his mouth tightened about some things he was saying about the political leadership he was enduring. Can’t do that. He was coming around, but having four more years of this is going to feel like being hit in the gut to him.

No point. Just thinking out loud.

Axe on November 7, 2012 at 1:04 AM

I will give myself two days to mourn this loss. Feeling depressed any longer than that will be a waste of energy and counterproductive. What happened today is a terrible thing, yes, but we can come back in 2014 and 2016.

I hate hearing the “all is lost” talk. Going on and on for too long about how screwed we are wont help anything.

Just remember that half the country is feeling like we all are right now.

bluegill on November 7, 2012 at 1:08 AM

Res Publica is dead. Those who take from the taxpayer outnumber the taxpayer. We are done.

quikstrike98 on November 7, 2012 at 1:08 AM

hawkdriver on November 7, 2012 at 12:40 AM
Is that an open invitation?

Solaratov on November 7, 2012 at 12:53 AM

Oh you bet. Give me till tomorrow to check the mail, but anyone who wants to write, send me a note.

hawkdriver on November 7, 2012 at 12:56 AM

Saw your email address–sent you a message.

texasmagnolia on November 7, 2012 at 1:10 AM

This is like choosing McClellan in 1864.

Actually, it’s more like re-electing Buchanan.

LagunaDave on November 7, 2012 at 1:16 AM

Talk about raising taxes all you want, it will not make a dent in the deficit. CBO estimated repealing the Bush tax cuts for the “wealthy” would raise 800 billion in 10 years

I agree that more taxes must go up esp. on those paying no income tax today, and this one change to upper class tax rates will only reduce the deficit by 10% or less annually.
But it will absolutely make a dent.

bayam on November 7, 2012 at 1:17 AM

Bishop, would like to be a part of the online meeting for discussing strategies. How do we communicate outside of HA?

texasmagnolia on November 7, 2012 at 12:42 AM

You guys want an online venue, I can code it in a few days.

Axe on November 7, 2012 at 12:49 AM

Hey, Axe. I’ve lurked at HA for over 4 years until I was finally able to get in during one of the last few open signups they had. Don’t generally post. Enjoy reading moreso. But I’m ticked now. Don’t know if we need an online venue, but I certainly appreciate the offer. Guess maybe Bishop or Hawkdriver would have ideas on that.

texasmagnolia on November 7, 2012 at 1:17 AM

I don’t get it. His scandalous presidency is worthy of impeachment, so how could Obama get re-elected?

jediwebdude on November 7, 2012 at 1:18 AM

Michele Bachmann and Allen West fighting for their lives; Bachmann up by <200 votes w/ 52% reporting, West down 2000 w/ 97% reporting. Time for some major, major GOP soul-searching.

Alpha_Male on November 7, 2012 at 12:40 AM

The days of the Tea Party as a significant political force are ending.

“I can’t tell you how many Democrats, Republicans and Independents came up to me and said, ‘Patrick, look, we’re tired of the divisiveness. We’re tired of the extremism of people like Allen West, calling people names. Calling people communists and Nazis, we want someone to bring this country together.’ So our message is working.”

Read more: http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/political/allen-west-clinging-to-slight-lead-with-more-than-90-percent-of-precincts-reporting-in-district-18#ixzz2BVzt4tDn

bayam on November 7, 2012 at 1:20 AM

I don’t know how I can keep coming to this site. Somehow we thought were gonna flip FL, OH, and VA. We were sure about FL and VA. I can only conclude because we believed what we heard about over-sampled Dems, which was not talked about anywhere else really. And it was wrong.

I was so confident with all the analysis……but in the end it was misplaced. Would not have changed my vote, but I would have been prepared for this tragedy.

And, America, we proceed on our downward decline…….

goflyers on November 7, 2012 at 1:20 AM

I will give myself two days to mourn this loss. Feeling depressed any longer than that will be a waste of energy and counterproductive. What happened today is a terrible thing, yes, but we can come back in 2014 and 2016.

I hate hearing the “all is lost” talk. Going on and on for too long about how screwed we are wont help anything.

Just remember that half the country is feeling like we all are right now.

I tried to say the same thing some time ago. Time to regroup, and understand why we lost today, and what we an do in the future to regain the White House.

clemycali on November 7, 2012 at 1:24 AM

When the backlash comes it will be severe as the people will lose patience with their favorite. The GOP will need to be ready with the right candidates. Not the patricians (Romney), religious nuts (Aiken) or tea party freaks (Angle) but real people they can identify with. Those people are appearing now.

breffnian on November 7, 2012 at 12:06 AM

Who knew…maybe you can start grooming candidates on HA :)…

jimver on November 7, 2012 at 1:24 AM

I don’t get it. His scandalous presidency is worthy of impeachment, so how could Obama get re-elected?

jediwebdude on November 7, 2012 at 1:18 AM

How about an amoral/immoral majority electorate? Although I’m willing to put my money on the absolute worst kind…lukewarm Christians re Revelation 3:15-16. No morals, values, or principles for which they are willing to stand firm. Pitiful.

texasmagnolia on November 7, 2012 at 1:24 AM

I agree that more taxes must go up esp. on those paying no income tax today, and this one change to upper class tax rates will only reduce the deficit by 10% or less annually.
But it will absolutely make a dent.

bayam on November 7, 2012 at 1:17 AM

But never actually reign in spending like most adults…right child? It’s not fair that you would have to spend money on adult things like healthcare or retirement when there is a new Ipad just around the corner.

ClassicCon on November 7, 2012 at 1:24 AM

Come on everyone… We get to beat up Obama for the next 4 years now! Politically this is going to be a lot of fun. Obama and the Liberals are going to be miserable. There responsible now and we we get to blame them for everything. There is no recovery coming. I bet Obama wishes he could resign tomorrow morning. The fun part is over for him and starting for us.

brewcrew67 on November 7, 2012 at 1:26 AM

goflyers on November 7, 2012 at 1:20 AM

You know, it seems awfully immature to blame this site for your feelings right now. Neither Ed nor Allah made any promises; rather, they provided the best analysis they could with the facts available. Readers are always free to analyze the evidence themselves and come to their own conclusions.

Many people called this election wrong. For you to claim that you weren’t “prepared” for the possibility of this result is more than a little silly.

bluegill on November 7, 2012 at 1:28 AM

Well that sucked. But politically were going to have a lot of fun. I would rather attack Obama than defend Romney for the next 4 years.

brewcrew67 on November 7, 2012 at 1:29 AM

I tried to say the same thing some time ago. Time to regroup, and understand why we lost today, and what we an do in the future to regain the White House.
clemycali on November 7, 2012 at 1:24 AM

Exactly. We have no choice. I’m also thinking that a week or two break from political news wouldn’t be that bad a thing for many of us right now.

bluegill on November 7, 2012 at 1:30 AM

I

tried to say the same thing some time ago. Time to regroup, and understand why we lost today, and what we an do in the future to regain the White House.

clemycali on November 7, 2012 at 1:24 AM

Once you come to grips with the concept of demographics (minorities), free stuff and unions – you will understand why we lost today. We pretty much took a page from contemporary Europe’s history and replicated here. You want to know what the future will look like, here, take a good look at Greece, Spain, Portugal, Ireland and Italy…the rest are following suit…

jimver on November 7, 2012 at 1:31 AM

No, we lost because America reached the tipping point where there are as many taker as producers

hawkdriver on November 7, 2012 at 12:04 AM

Michele Bachmann and Allen West fighting for their lives; Bachmann up by <200 votes w/ 52% reporting, West down 2000 w/ 97% reporting. Time for some major, major GOP soul-searching.

Alpha_Male on November 7, 2012 at 12:40 AM

It’s not a ‘tipping point’, ‘a need for GOP soul searching’, or anything else I have seen any pundit write or a talking head speak about this evening … it’s this …

Our country will continue to race down this foolish path as long as it continues to revel in the glorification of homosexuality, murder of their unborn children, and further turn from God. Unless the people repent from their sin, and turn to God where men’s hearts are changed, the decline into corruption will only continue, intensify and gain momentum for judgement.

Our nation of people has exchanged the truth for a lie and become futile in their thinking.

AZ_Redneck on November 7, 2012 at 1:32 AM

#TeamObama. Hate to say I told you so but…..yeah…

Politricks on November 7, 2012 at 1:33 AM

I don’t care what the Palin haters say, God allowed her to see what was going to happen. Now her deciding not to run makes all the sense in the world. Her saying it was a decision reached by prayer, being a Christian I did believe her, truly was providence.

texasmagnolia on November 7, 2012 at 1:34 AM

I don’t know how I can keep coming to this site. Somehow we thought were gonna flip FL, OH, and VA. We were sure about FL and VA. I can only conclude because we believed what we heard about over-sampled Dems, which was not talked about anywhere else really. And it was wrong.

goflyers on November 7, 2012 at 1:20 AM

It wasn’t misplaced. In a significant number of polls, the dems were significantly oversampled. That’s just a fact. But there are limits to the predictive power of a poll.

I wasn’t prepared for tonight because I had no reason to believe it would happen. Half the electorate licked its finger and stuck it back in the socket. I watched it happen, and I still can’t believe it.

Axe on November 7, 2012 at 1:36 AM

Dick Morris to the white courtesy phone. Dick, Dick, Dick. Michael where are you?

Kissmygrits on November 7, 2012 at 1:36 AM

I tried to say the same thing some time ago. Time to regroup, and understand why we lost today, and what we an do in the future to regain the White House.
clemycali on November 7, 2012 at 1:24 AM

How do you win? You win by following the democrats, demagogue everything, lie, cheat, steal, blame, make promises you know you will never keep, and play on stereotypes every chance you get. This is the way you win elections in America. The average voter is an uninformed dunce to be manipulated.

Dollayo on November 7, 2012 at 1:37 AM

You know, it seems awfully immature to blame this site for your feelings right now. Neither Ed nor Allah made any promises; rather, they provided the best analysis they could with the facts available. Readers are always free to analyze the evidence themselves and come to their own conclusions.

Many people called this election wrong. For you to claim that you weren’t “prepared” for the possibility of this result is more than a little silly.

bluegill on November 7, 2012 at 1:28 AM

It’s the same thing every Presidential election on Conservative blogs. The Republican is in great shape, the polls are wrong, the turnout is fantastic, and then he gets his a** kicked. Ace predicted well over 300 electoral votes for Romney…is he nuts?

gumbyandpokey on November 7, 2012 at 1:38 AM

I don’t care what the Palin haters say, God allowed her to see what was going to happen. Now her deciding not to run makes all the sense in the world. Her saying it was a decision reached by prayer, being a Christian I did believe her, truly was providence.
texasmagnolia on November 7, 2012 at 1:34 AM

That is so stupid. So Palin was able to see into the future? Baloney. She is a nice, patriotic woman, but the woman never would have had a snowball’s chance in hell. We can do a lot better than her.

bluegill on November 7, 2012 at 1:39 AM

The TROLLS ended up calling the election more accurately than any of the partisans here.

gumbyandpokey on November 7, 2012 at 1:39 AM

It’s the same thing every Presidential election on Conservative blogs. The Republican is in great shape, the polls are wrong, the turnout is fantastic, and then he gets his a** kicked. Ace predicted well over 300 electoral votes for Romney…is he nuts?
gumbyandpokey on November 7, 2012 at 1:38 AM

It’s the same on all partisan blogs, conservative or not. Hopefully now you can find yourself a life and quit spending all your time trolling strangers with your immature comments. Or not.

bluegill on November 7, 2012 at 1:41 AM

It’s the same thing every Presidential election on Conservative blogs. The Republican is in great shape, the polls are wrong, the turnout is fantastic, and then he gets his a** kicked. Ace predicted well over 300 electoral votes for Romney…is he nuts?
gumbyandpokey on November 7, 2012 at 1:38 AM

It’s the same on all partisan blogs, conservative or not. Hopefully now you can find yourself a life and quit spending all your time trolling strangers with your immature comments. Or not.

bluegill on November 7, 2012 at 1:41 AM

No, the poll-denying reached a fever pitch this election with the Nate Silver bashing.

A D+6 electorate? You guys called that kind of sample a crime and it was spot on.

gumbyandpokey on November 7, 2012 at 1:47 AM

Co went O… something is up…

kcd on November 7, 2012 at 1:49 AM

As for ‘taxing the producers’, you’re referring to a restoration of Clinton level tax rates, a necessary step to address a massive deficit in tandem with entitlement reform.

Ahh yes, those magical Clinton tax rates. Why, if we would just go back to those rates, the deficits would magically disappear, the crippled would walk, high paying jobs would fall from the sky, and peace would break out all across the world. But not all the rates, mind you….just the ones for the evil rich people…you know, the ones that cost the least and will do absolutely nothing to address the deficit.

Pffft.

When Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, and the other great capitalist entrepreneurs raise their hands and say increase our taxes, just do it and stop worrying when the idle and unproductive wealthy, like the Waltons, complain.

Yes, don’t dare think for yourselves, let the democrats think for you, folks. Here’s an idea…if they want to pay more taxes, how about they just do it and stop trying spend other people’s money?

By they way, has Buffet finally stopped fighting against paying the taxes he already owes under the current rates?

xblade on November 7, 2012 at 1:50 AM

How do you win? You win by following the democrats, demagogue everything, lie, cheat, steal, blame, make promises you know you will never keep, and play on stereotypes every chance you get. This is the way you win elections in America. The average voter is an uninformed dunce to be manipulated.

Dollayo on November 7, 2012 at 1:37 AM

Yeah! In 2016 lets give out the latest iphone! The sheeple will line up for that!!!

kcd on November 7, 2012 at 1:53 AM

Yeah! In 2016 lets give out the latest iphone! The sheeple will line up for that!!!

kcd on November 7, 2012 at 1:53 AM

We don’t have to give out the latest iphone, just promise to and then when you get elected, forget about it. In 4yrs it will be forgotten and we can promise a new shiny object.

Dollayo on November 7, 2012 at 1:55 AM

Yeah! In 2016 lets give out the latest iphone! The sheeple will line up for that!!!

kcd on November 7, 2012 at 1:53 AM

We don’t have to give out the latest iphone, just promise to and then when you get elected, forget about it. In 4yrs it will be forgotten and we can promise a new shiny object.

Dollayo on November 7, 2012 at 1:55 AM

I was being sarcastic. I truly think by the end of 4 more hussein years, we will be scriping pennies to buy a loaf of bread.

kcd on November 7, 2012 at 2:08 AM

That is if we havent been anialated due to our lack of military forces.

kcd on November 7, 2012 at 2:10 AM

I was being sarcastic. I truly think by the end of 4 more hussein years, we will be scriping pennies to buy a loaf of bread.

kcd on November 7, 2012 at 2:08 AM

Hey, right-on, I knew you were being sarcastic, :) I only wish I was.

Dollayo on November 7, 2012 at 2:13 AM

as a nation we are truly lost. we lost when the american idol candidate was be re-elected largely due to his ability to relate to the “useful idiots” through identity politics.

and now i know what rick feels like in the walking dead. all is lost around us, reality crumbles, the undead prey on us, and we are all alone yet endeavor to survive in a harsh new world.

may God have mercy upon what was once the united states of america. pray for Israel, pray for Peace, it is all we have.

restock, reload, prepare.

long_cat on November 7, 2012 at 2:16 AM

People need to get a sense of proportion. Obama scraped in. The national vote was a tie. That is not a mandate for anything. Many of those votes were conditional. He is being given a chance to fix a mess many still blame on the GOP. It’s his last chance. And the mystique of the first black president is gone for good.

Taranto has a good article on how Obama is about to reap his own whirlwind.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203347104578103053678880658.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLETopOpinion
Once that happens, the people will be ready for the GOP again.
We just need the right candidates, not the Aikens, Mourdocks, Rehbergs, Allens or Browns but candidates who will fight to retain our freedom as fiercely as Democrats fight to take it away from us.

breffnian on November 7, 2012 at 2:17 AM

I tried to say the same thing some time ago. Time to regroup, and understand why we lost today, and what we an do in the future to regain the White House.
clemycali on November 7, 2012 at 1:24 AM

Aww, screw that! It’s time to embrace the horror! Let’s just sit back, relax, and watch the jackasses burn the place down! Sure, we’ll burn too, but the look of shock, surprise, and realization on their faces will be sooo precious! It’ll almost be worth it.

squint on November 7, 2012 at 2:17 AM

bayam on November 7, 2012 at 1:17 AM

10% or less is a dent….really?
It’s a rounding error
When interests rates go up again and they may soar if inflation kicks in or foreigners sell our debt it won’t even pay the interest.
Get real.

breffnian on November 7, 2012 at 2:21 AM

It wasn’t misplaced. In a significant number of polls, the dems were significantly oversampled. That’s just a fact. But there are limits to the predictive power of a poll.
I wasn’t prepared for tonight because I had no reason to believe it would happen. Half the electorate licked its finger and stuck it back in the socket. I watched it happen, and I still can’t believe it.
Axe on November 7, 2012 at 1:36 AM

You’re ignoring the fact that HA decides which polls to present to you, instead of the aggregate of polls presented by sites like HuffPost. So what else are the Hot Aryans not telling you? There’s an economic recovery going on, for one. And a majority of The People are obviously experiencing it.

Constantine on November 7, 2012 at 2:35 AM

I hereby propose the month of NOvember. It’s like going Galt, but there’s no subscription required, and you can cancel anytime:

Say “no” to tipping at restaurants.
Say “no” to super-sizing that meal, or getting fries with that.
Say “no” to hiring out simple jobs. Cut your own damn lawn, and wash your own damn car for a month.
Say “no” to providing those little, fringe benefits to employees. No one really needs another donut, anyway.

For the month of NOvember, just say “no” to small, discretionary spending. It won’t shut down the machine, and it won’t cause anyone to starve. But it’ll stop greasing the wheels of the economy, and if enough people do it… the squeaking will be heard.

I think it would make a nice, annual event. Who’s up for it?

The Resolute Desk on November 7, 2012 at 2:36 AM

Why can’t Florida run a damn election? They were totally irrelevant. The whole state should be completely embarrassed. What was this, their bye week? Did they all nod off at 7:30? Did someone forget to charge the scooter chair? Did they fall and not get up? What?

It’s over. They can just throw their entire election in the dumpster. Nobody cares anymore.

Not that it would have made any difference. But they are expected to participate. Heads should roll. Screw Florida.

Buck Turgidson on November 7, 2012 at 2:37 AM

Buck Turgidson on November 7, 2012 at 2:37 AM

Best handle on HA. Dick Cheney totally reminds me of that character.

Constantine on November 7, 2012 at 2:43 AM

We just need the right candidates, not the Aikens, Mourdocks, Rehbergs, Allens or Browns but candidates who will fight to retain our freedom as fiercely as Democrats fight to take it away from us.

breffnian on November 7, 2012 at 2:17 AM

Do you see the irony? The way you see the world means these candidates will always be chosen. The Tea Party is a Frankenstein creation that the “establishment” does not know how to kill. Why is Sarah Palin not on your list? If you can not see why she should be on your list than you are part of the problem.

ZippyZ on November 7, 2012 at 2:43 AM

Come on everyone… We get to beat up Obama for the next 4 years now! Politically this is going to be a lot of fun. Obama and the Liberals are going to be miserable. There responsible now and we we get to blame them for everything. There is no recovery coming. I bet Obama wishes he could resign tomorrow morning. The fun part is over for him and starting for us.

brewcrew67 on November 7, 2012 at 1:26 AM

Yeah, but Obamacare now becomes permanent. If you’re over 50 and live in a red state, don’t count on getting anything approaching the healthcare you now enjoy.

I envy my elderly parents, at least they grew old in a time where they were allowed to have treatment options if they got sick – From now on out, future generations will have nothing to look forward to but Soylent Green.

JFS61 on November 7, 2012 at 2:49 AM

I prayed and prayed for a Romney win.

Now I feel like Stonewall Jackson. He prayed and prayed for victory, then was shot and killed accidentally by his own troops.

Buck Turgidson on November 7, 2012 at 2:52 AM

Say “no” to super-sizing that meal, or getting fries with that.

Hate to break this to you, but you should never super-size that meal. It’s one of the worst things you can do to yourself and this country’s healthcare system.

bayam on November 7, 2012 at 2:54 AM

I envy my elderly parents, at least they grew old in a time where they were allowed to have treatment options if they got sick

Hold on, how do you know they’ll survive the death panels? It might be necessary to cut the cord, if you will, to improve cost efficiencies.

bayam on November 7, 2012 at 2:56 AM

bayam on November 7, 2012 at 2:54 AM

Hate to break it to you, but re-electing Obama was the worst thing you could do to yourself or your healthcare system.

Enjoy the next four years.

The Resolute Desk on November 7, 2012 at 2:58 AM

the proverbial frosting on the cake on one of the greatest nights in American history … Allen West just lost …

U2denver on November 7, 2012 at 3:02 AM

Hold on, how do you know they’ll survive the death panels? It might be necessary to cut the cord, if you will, to improve cost efficiencies.

bayam on November 7, 2012 at 2:56 AM

My father only has about year or so left in him, so it probably won’t have an effect on him one way or another. I am am worried about my mother, though (Not to mention my sister or me).

JFS61 on November 7, 2012 at 3:09 AM

We just need the right candidates, not the Aikens, Mourdocks, Rehbergs, Allens or Browns but candidates who will fight to retain our freedom as fiercely as Democrats fight to take it away from us.
breffnian on November 7, 2012 at 2:17 AM

Do you see the irony? The way you see the world means these candidates will always be chosen. The Tea Party is a Frankenstein creation that the “establishment” does not know how to kill. Why is Sarah Palin not on your list? If you can not see why she should be on your list than you are part of the problem.
ZippyZ on November 7, 2012 at 2:43 AM

Despite all her admittedly positive attributes, Sarah Palin has hurt the Republican brand way more than she has helped. The woman can barely string together two or three consecutive complete, proper sentences during TV interviews. I don’t care what anyone says, that is a real problem. Most of the country believes she is not qualified to be president, and she should not be given serious consideration for higher office in the future. Yes, she has not been treated fairly in the media, but she hurt herself by hiding from tough interviews, by never displaying and articulating (without notes in front of her) any kind of intellectual depth or deep grasp of the issues, and by quitting her job and giving a convoluted excuse for doing so. She would be as hopeless a candidate as Todd Akin became.

Two people I will never, ever support in a future Republican primary are: Sarah Palin and the fat Charlie Crist known as Chris Christie.

Marco Rubio? Love him. Scott Walker? Great as well. Bobby Jindal? Great guy. Paul Ryan? You Betcha. Even Jeb Bush? If it came to that, I so would. Rudy? Not sure how old he is now, but I’ll take him over many others.

bluegill on November 7, 2012 at 3:27 AM

I am floored by what happened in NH and in MA. As others have posted the takers now outnumber the makers.

We are so completely screwed.

dogsoldier on November 7, 2012 at 5:18 AM

Looks like the Doom patrol is gaining recruits. I knew you’d come around to my way of thinking. Now kick back and, metaphorically, enjoy the last few days of summer. Winter is coming.

DFCtomm on November 7, 2012 at 5:34 AM

True colors coming out. Truth is DBear, your very comment there proves that you’re the party of hate. Of generalizations.

For the rest of you Conservative Americans. Are you ready to actually go Galt? I am. I start tonight.

hawkdriver on November 6, 2012 at 11:47 PM

Going.

davidk on November 7, 2012 at 6:05 AM

Supreme court.

Printing money.

Death Panel.

Appeasement: Russia, Iran, Muslim Brotherhood, China … .

Department of Justice.

Terrorism.

Freedom of religion.

2nd Amendment.

Abortion.

Redefinition of marriage.

davidk on November 7, 2012 at 6:17 AM

For the rest of you Conservative Americans. Are you ready to actually go Galt? I am. I start tonight.
hawkdriver on November 6, 2012 at 11:47 PM

Ugh, you too? You guys sound like liberals threatening to move to Canada after Bush won. It’s like the equivalent of throwing a childish tantrum. So you’re really going to just withdraw and quit being productive? Ok, good luck with that.

First of all, lets remember that half the country voted against Obama. All is not lost! So much can change in a year’s time.

The “doom squad” here is getting ridiculous. I say we man up, regroup, reevaluate and make sure we get a different result next time.

bluegill on November 7, 2012 at 6:20 AM

First of all, lets remember that half the country voted against Obama. All is not lost! So much can change in a year’s time.

bluegill on November 7, 2012 at 6:20 AM

Yeah, the demographics can swing against you by another 1%. Hell, I’m even for the GOP senators and congressmen going Galt. The GOP should abstain, to the last man, in all votes from now on. When this ship hits the iceberg lets make sure the country knows who is driving. Give the Democrats everything they want, except for a single GOP vote.

DFCtomm on November 7, 2012 at 6:26 AM

Yeah, the demographics can swing against you by another 1%. Hell, I’m even for the GOP senators and congressmen going Galt. The GOP should abstain, to the last man, in all votes from now on. When this ship hits the iceberg lets make sure the country knows who is driving. Give the Democrats everything they want, except for a single GOP vote.
DFCtomm on November 7, 2012 at 6:26 AM

Nice to see some people here continue to offer realistic suggestions. /

I know we’re all upset, but lets try to stay in the realm of political reality.

bluegill on November 7, 2012 at 6:33 AM

I know we’re all upset, but lets try to stay in the realm of political reality.

bluegill on November 7, 2012 at 6:33 AM

The reality is you lost. Did you not get the memo? The country is heading for a fiscal iceberg and the media is going to be sure that Capitalism and the “obstructive” GOP is blamed. The only course of action that might thwart this is to give the Democrats everything they want except a single bipartisan Republican vote. It’s a hail mary, but really that’s all the GOP has left.

DFCtomm on November 7, 2012 at 6:41 AM

rue colors coming out. Truth is DBear, your very comment there proves that you’re the party of hate. Of generalizations.

For the rest of you Conservative Americans. Are you ready to actually go Galt? I am. I start tonight.

hawkdriver on November 6, 2012 at 11:47 PM

Going.

davidk on November 7, 2012 at 6:05 AM

I’m with you.

I have no patience with the phony “dialague”.

I’m just finished with the bullshit.

Cody1991 on November 7, 2012 at 6:47 AM

time to hasten the inevitable. see ya all in the gulch.

it is time for the zeros to realize their dream

tom daschle concerned on November 7, 2012 at 7:45 AM

Well, looks like a clean living moderate can’t get it done…plan B.

Sun Tze says your opponent establishes the rules…

So we do what Pelosi, Reid, Obama, Wasserman do…we attack ruthlessly, we lie…being “nice” doesn’t work, it sound good on paper, but it doesn’t get you elected.

The one good thing, your opponent, after he defeats you, thanks you for being so polite and stupid…so at least you make a friend.

right2bright on November 7, 2012 at 9:57 AM

bluegill on November 7, 2012 at 6:20 AM

I’m not running anywhere. You don’t have to leave anything to cause the same effect. Don’t assume.

hawkdriver on November 7, 2012 at 10:12 AM

Be prepared for $5 gas…heating bills in the north off the chart…gov. regulations driving up prices…and still no budget from the Senate…

And accept the fact that it will be everyone’s else’s fault and not the White House…military downgraded, terrorists attacks emboldened…tighten your seat belts, the next 4-8 years is going to be bumpy.

right2bright on November 7, 2012 at 11:14 AM


And accept the fact that it will be everyone’s else’s fault and not the White House…military downgraded, terrorists attacks emboldened…tighten your seat belts, the next 4-8 years is going to be bumpy.

They were going to be bumpy anyway. At least this way our fingerprints won’t be on the disastrous outcomes to follow.

casuist on November 7, 2012 at 11:58 AM

Decline

Bmore on November 15, 2012 at 10:54 AM

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