7 p.m.: Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina

posted at 6:16 pm on November 6, 2012 by Allahpundit

Free advice, take it or leave it: Don’t start obsessing about Ohio until we have a better sense of what’s happening in Virginia. Everyone’s going to go crazy when the OH early voting totals are revealed sometime after 7:30, as that’ll be the first strong sign of whether Romney’s overperforming or not. But there’s a reason I listed VA as a “prerequisite” in yesterday’s post on electoral math. Losing it won’t kill Romney but it’ll put him in the ICU; it would wipe out 13 of the 18 EVs he’s hoping to gain from Ohio. If he drops VA, then he’d have to win Ohio and Wisconsin and Iowa and another state or else somehow pull the rabbit out of the hat in Pennsylvania. Virginia is a big, big deal, and right now it’s a pure toss-up. Team Mitt likes what they’re seeing, though:

Southwestern Virginia and southwestern Pennsylvania are reportedly seeing big turnout for Romney. In both states, these are the rural conservative regions and Romney needs to run up his numbers in these areas.

Here’s the state’s page for election returns. Politico flags Henrico and Prince William Counties as ones to watch; both went for O last time. Given how tight the race is and the fact that Virgil Goode is a native son, the third-party vote here could potentially be a problem.

North Carolina is Romney’s safest swing state, so much so that I didn’t bother putting it up on the board in yesterday’s “electoral math made easy” post. RCP’s average has him ahead by three points exactly, so there’s your first benchmark in measuring whether GOP turnout nationally is higher than expected tonight. If this state is called early, that’s a good omen. If Obama somehow makes a contest of it, might be time to start drinking. You can follow the returns here.

Now for the big one. O led by 2.9 points in the final RCP average but anecdotal reports today are promising. First, a shot of optimism from Ari Fleischer:

Early voting is up in red counties and down in blue counties from 2008, which is what you’d expect and necessary for a Romney win. WaPo has a nice rundown of benchmarks for key counties: O’s aiming for close to 70 percent in Cuyahoga County, a la what he pulled in 2008, and he’s hoping to cut into Romney’s advantage in Delaware County the way he did to McCain, winning 36,000 votes there versus 27,000 for Kerry in 2004. Franklin County has gotten more Democratic over the last three elections, with Obama winning it in 60-39 four years ago, and both sides are hoping to win Hamilton County, which was reliably red until O won it in 2008. Here’s the Secretary of State’s page for returns. You can click the link there to view by county.

We’ve got a handy dandy Townhall election widget in the front page sidebar for you to follow results. Politico has a county-by-county map of the whole country to help simplify things too. And here’s the livestream for Ed and Guy Benson co-hosting the Hugh Hewitt show. One bit of recommended reading before we get into updates and results: This piece from National Journal explains in detail why Ohio’s rules for provisional ballots might, might lead to a weeks-long clusterfark a la Florida 2000. If you think Romney (or Obama) will win handily tonight then it’s no sweat, but do note that the candidates themselves are well prepared for this eventuality. Romney allegedly has a “go team” ready to roll.

Update: Mitt projecting confidence:

Speaking with reporters on his campaign plane for the last time, Mitt Romney revealed that he’s only written one speech so far.

“I just finished writing a victory speech,” he told the travelling press. “It’s about 1,118 words. And, uh, I’m sure it will change before I’m finished, because I haven’t passed it around to my family and friends and advisers to get their reaction, but I’ve only written one speech at this point.”

Update: The polls in Indiana closed at 6 p.m. ET. Victory is a foregone conclusion there for Romney but not for Richard Mourdock. As I’m writing this, the Indiana Secretary of State’s page is slow so I’m tracking returns on Politico’s page.

Update: Not unexpected, but not good either:

Update: It’s still early in Indiana but David Freddoso notices that Mourdock is underperforming McCain’s county numbers thus far — in a state that McCain lost narrowly. Ari Fleischer sees positive signs for O in Indiana too, but we’ll need Virginia numbers before we can try to deduce any national trends.

Update: Chris Cillizza of WaPo tweets that the bellwether counties in Virginia are Prince William and Loudoun. Both went to Obama in 2008 and then to Bob McDonnell in the gubernatorial race in 2009.

Update: A case study in why you shouldn’t trust early exit polls. According to CNN, the partisan split in Ohio tonight is D+7, which nearly equals the D+8 that Democrats produced in Obama’s wave year of 2008. No way is that correct.

Update: There’s good news in the dubious exit polls too.

Update: Another bellwether for you to watch in Virginia: Fairfax Villa in Fairfax County.

In 2004, John Kerry won Fairfax County, but lost Virginia 54-46. To be precise, Bush got 53.7% in Virginia. He got 52.5% in Fairfax Villa.

In 2008, Virginia voted 52.6% for Obama, and Fairfax Villa voted 53.0% for Obama.

A year later, in the governor election, the precinct and the state swung back to Republicans, big time. Virginia voted 58.6% for Bob McDonnell, and Fairfax Villa voted 60.1% for McDonnell.

Update: With nearly 15 percent reporting, Mourdock trails Joe Donnelly by two-tenths of a point.

Update: Over at the RCP live blog, Sean Trende is watching Virginia: “But with 77% in, Chesterfield [County] is 45% for Obama. That’s what he got last time. If that holds, it is very difficult for Romney to win.”

Update: Why Virginia is close:

Update: Consensus on Twitter right now among experts I follow, including Trende, is that Romney isn’t doing what he needs to do in the suburbs in Virginia to turn the state red. It’s still early and college towns appear to be underperforming for Obama, but the state looks to be close, which is in line with the RCP average showing Obama up by less than half a point. Voting in the state could be extended for hours tonight, so if you haven’t gone yet, now’s the time.

Update: Extremely early in Ohio but unless I’m misreading this, the Secretary of State has already posted the early voting totals. O leads right now by roughly 190,000 votes, which is just about what Jay Cost estimated this morning. Obama’s early vote lead from “strong” blue counties versus “strong” red counties four years ago was 323,000.

Update: Don’t give up on Virginia yet:

Update: Another hopeful sign from Conn Carroll: Romney’s up by 12 with 80 percent reporting in Chesapeake County, which Obama won narrowly four years ago.

Update: With 26 percent in, Romney’s lead in North Carolina is less than a point. But Jim Geraghty reports that the mood among GOP insiders about NC, FL, and especially VA has improved markedly in the past half hour or so.

Update: Meanwhile in Indiana, hopes of repealing ObamaCare are waning. Mourdock trails by more than three points with more than 45 percent reporting.

Update: Back in Virginia, Romney’s atoning for his underperformance in Chesterfield County with big numbers up north:

Ben Domenech also now thinks Romney will hang on in Virginia. Fingers crossed.

Update: Patrick Ruffini spies a 16-point swing against Obama in Arlington County and is now wondering if Virginia might even be called for the GOP before Florida.

Update: Erika and MKH have you covered in Pennsylvania and Michigan, but I’m hearing that news outlets just called the Senate race in PA for Bob Casey and the presidential race in MI for Obama at the top of the hour. That takes one potential Romney longshot state off the table and makes Pennsylvania seem unlikely. But then, Ohio and Wisconsin have always been our best bets.

Update: Tim Carney, who noted Fairfax Villa as a key bellwether in one of the updates above, is in Fairfax County tonight and doesn’t like what he sees. Interesting difference of opinion right now between him and Trende on the one hand and Rove and Ruffini on the other about Romney using northern Virginia to pull this out.

Update: With 62.5 percent reporting and more than six and a half million votes counted, Romney leads in Florida — by 12,000 votes. Bush/Gore deja vu!

Update: Oof — multiple news outlets now calling Pennsylvania for Obama. That leaves Minnesota as the only longshot on the table for Romney. If, as expected, that goes blue too, then he needs to win either Ohio or Wisconsin. And if Virginia slips through his fingers, he’ll need to win both.

Update: Some quick and dirty electoral math for you now that Michigan and Pennsylvania are off the table. If Obama holds on in Minnesota and Nevada, which he’s expected to do, then he’s at 243 electoral votes. Florida has 29, so if he pulls the upset there, then he doesn’t need any other state. He’d be at 272 and that would be it. Romney desperately needs to hold that slim lead in FL. If instead O pulls an upset in Virginia, that would put him at 256. He could get to 270 then with Ohio or with Wisconsin plus any other state or with Colorado plus Iowa.

Update: Oh boy. Fox News just called Wisconsin for Obama. All down to Ohio now for Romney. He needs to win OH + FL + VA + one other state.

Update: CBS just called New Hampshire for Obama, which simplifies things. If Romney doesn’t hold on in Florida, Virginia, and North Carolina and win Ohio and Iowa or Colorado, he’s done.

Oh: And Fox News just called the Indiana Senate for Joe Donnelly.

Update: With nearly 80 percent in, Obama’s actually ahead in Florida by 14,000 votes. And the word on Twitter is that he’s doing well in the bellwether counties.

Update: ABC just called Minnesota for Obama so all the longshots are now off the table. I assume Nevada will be called within the next 20 minutes or so (it’s 9:55 p.m. ET right now), which means Romney’s remaining path will be basically set. FL + VA + NC + OH + either CO or IA. Or bust.

Update: The good news is, with almost 77 percent in, Romney holds a lead in Virginia of nearly 90,000 votes. The bad news is in Florida, where, with 87 percent in, Obama’s clinging to a 37,000-vote lead. At the RCP blog, Tom Bevan says the remaining precincts there should favor … Obama.

Update: As noted above, Obama leads in Florida by 37,000 votes. Right now, Gary Johnson has … 39,000 votes.

Update: Elsewhere, in the suddenly forgotten state of Ohio, Obama holds a 90,000-vote lead with roughly half the state reporting.

Update: As of 10:30 ET, Romney’s ahead in the national popular vote by 1.3 million votes. Only eight percent of New York has reported, though, and none of the west coast has come in yet, so expect that to disappear quickly. Realistically, if Obama’s on his way to 300 or so electoral votes, he’s not going to lose the popular vote.

Update: O’s up by only 16,000 votes in Florida with nine percent of the state still be counted, but a big chunk of that is in Miami-Dade County, where 30 percent of the vote is still outstanding. That’s Obama’s stronghold; assuming that remaining 30 percent trends blue, he’s going to pad his lead, not lose it.

Update: At 10:54 ET, Romney finally wins the swing state that everyone thought would be easy pickings. The AP just called North Carolina for him. With nearly 98 percent reporting, he leads by two points. Meanwhie, with two-thirds of the vote in, Obama continues to lead in Ohio by 80,000 votes.

Update: Just as I’m reporting the first big Romney victory of the night, the Denver Post is calling Colorado for Obama. That makes the math easy: Romney now needs Ohio, Florida, Virginia, and Iowa. A loss in any of those states ends it.

Update: I’m hearing that George Allen has conceded to Tim Kaine in the Virginia Senate race, which bodes ill for Romney’s chances. He leads by 13,000 votes but there are blue counties still to come in. Larry Sabato called the state a likely win for O just 10 minutes ago.

Looks like the writing’s on the wall. The networks are holding off on calling these states, I think, simply because it amounts to calling the entire election.

Update: NBC just called Iowa for Obama. Assuming all the calls made by the networks are correct tonight (some Republicans are holding out hope for Wisconsin, although it’s been called by both Fox and ABC), then the election’s all but over. We’re just waiting on Nevada now, O’s strongest swing state, to clinch 271.

Update: At 11:13 ET, NBC calls Ohio for Obama. Fox follows a minute later. Ballgame.

Update: Assuming O holds on in Florida and ekes it out in Virginia, he’ll have swept all the swing states except NC and will finish with 332 electoral votes, not far off the pace from the 365 he won four years ago. Nearly four years of a miserable economy plus hundreds of millions of dollars in conservative campaign spending was worth 32 electoral votes. Indiana and North Carolina, essentially.

Update: I guess it’s time.

Update: This result is so bad that I think we need to double dip on misery videos. Did the Democrats actually pick up Senate seats this year?

Update: At 12:40 a.m., both the AP and CBS are calling Virginia for Obama. He’s over 300 EVs now, I believe. Still waiting on Florida, where he leads by 50,000 votes with 97.5 percent reporting. He’s ahead in the popular vote now too, with most of California and 20 percent of New York still to report.


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We’re all Californians now.

Buck Turgidson on November 7, 2012 at 12:16 AM

You’re an idiot.

That Obama GOTV is the best of all time. It’s funny…Reince Preibus was saying how Obama’s team was cannibalizing their sure voters in early voting, but it turns out that’s exactly what Romney did. They did worse on election day than McCain.

Just an epic fail on all levels for the GOP.

gumbyandpokey on November 6, 2012 at 11:42 PM

Ok, I did some research and it was interesting. I found out that you are definitely the idiot. I like to double check my suspicions.

Anyway, if you count cbs nbc abc cnn nyt hollywood as the BHO GOTV then it is impressive what they’ve managed to do. Sick, but impressive.

BoxHead1 on November 7, 2012 at 12:16 AM

Where’s Dire? I’ll say it: The GOP will betray you. :(

cynccook on November 7, 2012 at 12:15 AM

ouch ouch ouch

Axe on November 7, 2012 at 12:17 AM

THAT is a scary threshold that we have crossed – whether you like religion or not. The ability to force someone to violate their own conscience is a terrible power, and this country just handed Barack Obama more of it.

studentofhistory on November 7, 2012 at 12:12

It will only get worse. The assault on free speech (conservative free speech) will ramp up.

darwin on November 7, 2012 at 12:17 AM

Please. Let’s go back to Lincoln then. Playing this parlor game of who did what is pointless when that list of things I gave you was always inevitable.

I just didn’t expect it in my lifetime.

Lanceman on November 7, 2012 at 12:06 AM

I was 11 when Reagan was sworn in. I knew it was going to happen back then and in my lifetime. I knew it was going to happen even after the rush of having Reagan be president was in its full glory. I knew it when George Herbert Walker Bush took office and when he left.

Funny how everything I said that I get reamed about seems to be true. But I am some lunatic not to be taken seriously.

Now people are here in large numbers declaring that since Romney did not win, they want to come to pass exactly what my original intent of voting for Obama would. Let the nation die quickly, hopefully while some conservative principles are still intact enough to guide the path of what is to come.

The longer we let the nation linger, the less likely there will be anyone who even knows what conservatism is. Few on Hot Air do. Thus the less likely we can go from bondage to liberty in any due haste.

I think I remember you saying something along the lines of, you could care less about America, all you cared about was America lasting long enough for you to die so you did not have to suffer due to the loss.

Thomas Paine “If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace”

I fit better in with that guy. I am willing to live through the hard times to give my children a better future. I knew the nation was lost long ago. I held hope, until Bush Jr. He destroyed what hope I had that it could be turned around peacefully.

astonerii on November 7, 2012 at 12:17 AM

If the Catholic Church loses the Healthcare Mandate in court after this defeat, watch for the closing of their hospitals and clinics. Then, Obamacare will be in a real pickle, because they will have to take those over – running up costs astronomically. Whether you like the Catholic Church or not, it runs efficient hospitals and health clinics (and charities) – far more efficient than the government. Their absence will be felt.

studentofhistory on November 7, 2012 at 12:15 AM

I just had an MRI for a kidney stone at St. Jude’s this afternoon. In and out in 30 minutes on a STAT order from my doctor. Wonder how much longer he’ll be able to pull that off.

nico on November 7, 2012 at 12:17 AM

Will Eaton – I agree entirely. The true enemy of the state has become the MSM. We need to deal effectively with them before they effectively eliminate us.

studentofhistory on November 7, 2012 at 12:18 AM

Tell you want, if the House passes Canadian health care, bans private firearms ownership, eliminates the Pentagon and grants citizenship to all 12-20 million illegals who are here now then you’ll be right and I will publically apologize.

alchemist19 on November 7, 2012 at 12:12 AM

We’re already getting Canadian healthcare and amnesty is on the way. Guns and the military will follow soon after.

JFS61 on November 7, 2012 at 12:18 AM

Look what he done so far without Congress. This guy is bad news, and the people around him are worse.

darwin on November 7, 2012 at 12:16 AM

Goodbye energy independence. Oil, coal, nat gas. And all those jobs. *sigh*

predator on November 7, 2012 at 12:18 AM

The stock markets will be pressured by a lot of selling to take advantage of the lower capital gain rate before it goes up at the end of the year. Stocks will be under pressure because the dividend rate will go up, from the present 15% to a top rate of 39.6%.

Meanwhile interest rate on saving account will remain close to zero. If you are retired and living on your savings, you are screwed.

bayview on November 7, 2012 at 12:19 AM

Preamble to the US Declaration of Independence:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

electric-rascal on November 7, 2012 at 12:19 AM

I also feel this may be the beginning of the end. Our local radio guy said it best. He said that he did not see this coming. That he was SURE Romney would win. Now he is wondering how he could be that out of touch with what America has chosen. WHY didn’t he even have a clue that Obama could win.

I am grieving for our troops.
Please, God, protect them. My son is going to Afghanistan in a few months. Our troops are just sitting ducks with this CinC.

AZgranny on November 7, 2012 at 12:20 AM

We’re all CaliforniansMarxists now.

Buck Turgidson on November 7, 2012 at 12:16 AM

bgibbs1000 on November 7, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Dear God, Megyn Kelly is going to talk about Twitter now.

This is the end. The apocalypse.

faraway on November 7, 2012 at 12:20 AM

That makes a nice joke but is pitifully stupid. Most of those 20,000,000 will be living in California and New Mexico. Electoral college wise it doesn’t make a difference.

If we didnt have that, we would have President Romney right now.

kcd on November 7, 2012 at 12:11 AM

That’s right, there are ever more populations of Latinos in NC and VA, and the FL Latino population is getting less Cuban and more liberal.

RedRedRice on November 7, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Canadian pipeline will now head west and will feed China. Gasoline and home energy prices could go crazy.

predator on November 7, 2012 at 12:20 AM

They did not. The contributed to checks going out to pay for someone else who was already on social security and medicare.

astoneri

In other words…they DID (and DO)contribute to the system, moron, lol.

xblade on November 7, 2012 at 12:21 AM

These aren’t just “democrats” in the White House. These people are hell bent on acheiving their “fundamental transformation” by any means necessary. They don’t believe in America, they hate America and will do whatever it takes to make sure it never rises again.

Everything is on the table … amnesty, guns, unfettered EPA imposing it’s climate religion, taxes, assaults on religion, speech and the military.

darwin on November 7, 2012 at 12:08 AM

If I had a Democrat House I might be a little more worried about some of that, and I admit Boehner isn’t always the fighter I would like him to be, but if the president could grant amnesty on his own then Bush would have done it in his second term. If Jug Ears was as effective a politician as he is a campaigner then we wouldn’t have survived the last four years. Second terms are where the legacy projects come in, and he’s a lame duck the last two years anyway. Unless history goes totally out the window then most of what he’s going to ever get done he’s already gotten done. We’ll survive this.

alchemist19 on November 7, 2012 at 12:21 AM

They did not. The contributed to checks going out to pay for someone else who was already on social security and medicare.

astoneri

In other words…they DID (and DO)contribute to the system, moron, lol.

xblade

xblade on November 7, 2012 at 12:21 AM

studentofhistory on November 7, 2012 at 12:18 AM

I agree. The MSM has betrayed our country.

AZgranny on November 7, 2012 at 12:21 AM

They won. They really won. Its really over. Civil war is the only fix and that will never happen.

jazzmo on November 7, 2012 at 12:22 AM

The whole freakin country is suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. Idiots all. I wish they would have seen the light but it looks like they are going to have to suffer the wrath before they wake up, which means we will all have to suffere…to bad it couldn’t just be the trolls hovering on this site!

Sporty1946 on November 7, 2012 at 12:22 AM

:) You quote that from memory?

Axe on November 6, 2012 at 11:57 PM

I think that was his name? He was such a non-entity that its hard to remember.

sharrukin on November 6, 2012 at 11:59 PM

I meant the first part, the Jake part. :) If you didn’t understand me. Blues Brother’s quote? Nevermind — I might be in a happy place. Love the answer either way.

Loathing Obama & Progressives for 4 more years can be lucrative business.

Resist We Much on November 7, 2012 at 12:08 AM

No idea what you are talking about, but wow — what a great idea.

Axe on November 7, 2012 at 12:22 AM

What a depressing night.

Thinking about un-bookmarking this website along with Drudge, Rush, Beck, etc and just start watching the Kardashians and Jersey Shore from now on. Doesn’t pay to be an informed conservative anymore – can’t beat em join em I guess.

Probably make life a lot easier to be clueless about the direction the country is headed anyway.

Ballistic on November 7, 2012 at 12:22 AM

In other words…they DID (and DO)contribute to the system, moron, lol.

xblade

xblade on November 7, 2012 at 12:21 AM

No, they don’t. They pay for current recipients. Once paid out, the money is gone. Not owed to anyone. Like I said, go get a F^CKING education on the programs and you will stop looking STUPID.
Ha Ha Ha
MORON.

astonerii on November 7, 2012 at 12:23 AM

I swore to “uphold and defend the Constitution of The United State of America, against all enemies foreign and domestict, so help me God”.
Take that as you will.

donkichi on November 7, 2012 at 12:24 AM

Well, I’m out.

Lanceman on November 7, 2012 at 12:24 AM

Is it possible that o will be “pegged”? Biden is looking better and better. OMG, I’m sooo desperate.

kcd on November 7, 2012 at 12:24 AM

Fatal: “So sad, I never thought I would live to see the death of my country”.

Sadly, well said. We’ll be more like Europe. Obama could well be President for life. He won’t need a Congress anymore.

Nothing touches the Teflon President. Not Fast & Furious, Solyndra et al., the national debt, Benghazi, killing the coal industry, the omnipotent EPA, TSA, Homeland Security, Obamacare….nothing!

I’m baffled that America re-elected a socialist placing us on a path to lose our Constitutional rights & freedoms.

Belle on November 7, 2012 at 12:24 AM

Maybe I’m just cynical, but I don’t see us ever recovering from this. When in the past have we ever turned back the growth of government? Granted there have been few times where we have slowed its growth, but for the most part we have been in a slow creep toward totalitarianism since reconstruction.

Elchasebo on November 7, 2012 at 12:24 AM

Unless history goes totally out the window then most of what he’s going to ever get done he’s already gotten done. We’ll survive this.

alchemist19 on November 7, 2012 at 12:21 AM

History says an electorate that can vote themselves free stuff will continue to do so, and the holders of power will become more and more corrupt as they pursue their own ends and enrich themselves. Eventually the nation collapses or dissolves. There’s a famous Republic that ended that way …

darwin on November 7, 2012 at 12:25 AM

astonerii on November 7, 2012 at 12:17 AM

Unfortunately, I think you are right. What this election does show is that there will be a remnant who will remember what this country was when it was at its best and those will lead us out of the darkness. I hope it is soon and if planned for one could hope to come out of it unscathed.

ConDem on November 7, 2012 at 12:25 AM

Unless history goes totally out the window then most of what he’s going to ever get done he’s already gotten done. We’ll survive this.

alchemist19 on November 7, 2012 at 12:21 AM

You’re missing the point. At what point do we ever reverse this? How?

ChicagoJewishGuy on November 7, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Oh, not that I go to movies much, but I’m definitely not going to support liberal Hollywood. That, plus Wisconsin cheese is gone. Just trying to feel better like everyone else.

Belle on November 7, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Poor Peggy Noonan will have to buy her own liquor now.

faraway on November 7, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Look at the bright side…

(1) Thank god for term limits. Obama can’t run next time. The democrats do not exactly have a deep bench of “winners” to call to in 2016. Plus the country will be such a mess by that point it will be hard to spin it. Remember we still control the House. Nothing is going happen over these four years that can’t be fixed, IF (and big if) the GOP has the guts to do what Dems have done, which is when you have power….use it to further our goals.

William Eaton on November 7, 2012 at 12:16 AM

There is no bright side. Barry will grow the size of government like Greece and Spain and saddle the country with an entrenched , unionized government employees.
Barry will fundamentally change the composition of the Supreme Court and far left judges in other levels judicial branch. His impact will long outlast the next 4 years.

I am beyond despair.

bayview on November 7, 2012 at 12:26 AM

They won. They really won. Its really over. Civil war is the only fix and that will never happen.

jazzmo on November 7, 2012 at 12:22 AM

I doubt that but… if Cali or Il ask for a federal bailout ??????

But hopefully we can just have a forced bankruptcy for those states and some austerity.

BoxHead1 on November 7, 2012 at 12:27 AM

Does anybody know where I can get some of this Obama Kool-Aid at? I hear it erases common sense and can be used as an anti-depressant.

Elchasebo on November 7, 2012 at 12:27 AM

It would be nice to think that Boehner and the GOP will now not compromise on the fiscal cliff, and let it all come down, hard, on Obama’s watch.

TexasDan on November 7, 2012 at 12:27 AM

.

We’ll survive this.

alchemist19 on November 7, 2012 at 12:21 AM

But the price…..

kcd on November 7, 2012 at 12:28 AM

I am beyond despair.

bayview on November 7, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Do not despair. Stay strong and think about what you need to do to survive from here on out.

ConDem on November 7, 2012 at 12:28 AM

You’re missing the point. At what point do we ever reverse this? How?

ChicagoJewishGuy on November 7, 2012 at 12:26 AM

We reverse it four years from now.

alchemist19 on November 7, 2012 at 12:28 AM

I am beyond despair.

bayview on November 7, 2012 at 12:26 AM

States are the key … this is still a union of fifty separate states. They should do whatever possible to rid themselves of federal mandates and requirements. Just say no.

darwin on November 7, 2012 at 12:28 AM

Oh and hey! We get all those new regulations Obama was holding back on! So it’s not all bad after all.

TexasDan on November 7, 2012 at 12:29 AM

I just hope VA still flips back. It has been a hard night and looking for comfort that the Old Dominion may still flip back.

F15Mech on November 7, 2012 at 12:29 AM

GOP is going to lose senate seats to boot. Time for them to go the way of the Whigs.

predator on November 7, 2012 at 12:30 AM

Do you think anyone will ever really investigate things like Benghazi? Not on your life. He is going to get away with murdering those men. I feel so sorry for those families.

Voter from WA State on November 7, 2012 at 12:27 AM

Withe the Dem in firm control of the Senate, Benghazi will disappear down memory hole.

bayview on November 7, 2012 at 12:30 AM

They won. They really won. Its really over. Civil war is the only fix and that will never happen.

jazzmo on November 7, 2012 at 12:22 AM

A realignment must happen.

You are thinking in those terms ’cause you can see something coming, but the people around you can only see what’s arrived. Learn this Padawan. :) Seeing it coming doesn’t mean moving first. That jackass ends badly and no one understands what he was raving about.

Anyway, restructuring, realignment, must and therefore will come; it will just be kinda grindy.

Add a bunch of “IMHO” crap up there. :)

*yawn*

Axe on November 7, 2012 at 12:31 AM

Will Eaton – I agree entirely. The true enemy of the state has become the MSM. We need to deal effectively with them before they effectively eliminate us.

studentofhistory on November 7, 2012 at 12:18 AM

They basically won this election for Obama. He did not win on his own.

Somehow we are going to have to gain control over the message again. That may mean certain wealthy conservatives (businessmen and investors) coming together and buying a couple MSM networks and newspapers. It also means some MSM outlets will need to be marginalized or even crushed via boycotts and attack campaigns.

We are going to have organize and get ruthless to take control of the MSM. That is were I think we must start. Can’t win the country back if we don’t control the message.

William Eaton on November 7, 2012 at 12:31 AM

GOP is going to lose senate seats to boot. Time for them to go the way of the Whigs.

predator on November 7, 2012 at 12:30 AM

And give rise to the Tea Party perhaps?

F15Mech on November 7, 2012 at 12:32 AM

Belle on November 7, 2012 at 12:26 AM

That’s good – Wisconsin cheese is out for sure. Florida oranges – Goodbye! California grapes – see ya! Not sure what I can boycott from Ohio but I’ll definitely root for Cleveland teams to continue to fail every year.

Ballistic on November 7, 2012 at 12:32 AM

Sheila Jackson Leigh returns to her seat with 75% of the vote.

Just in case you all thought Texas was without fault.

TexasDan on November 7, 2012 at 12:32 AM

darwin on November 7, 2012 at 12:25 AM

If I’m looking to history as a guide for what’s likely to happen in the United States over the next few years and I have to choose as my model either a European empire from two millennia ago or the United States a couple years ago I’m going to pick the latter. That’s just me though.

alchemist19 on November 7, 2012 at 12:32 AM

F15Mech on November 7, 2012 at 12:29 AM

I hope the same. Otherwise I am buying land in Texas and ready to emigrate (again) to the wife’s homeland.

donkichi on November 7, 2012 at 12:32 AM

If I had a Democrat House I might be a little more worried about some of that, and I admit Boehner isn’t always the fighter I would like him to be, but if the president could grant amnesty on his own then Bush would have done it in his second term. If Jug Ears was as effective a politician as he is a campaigner then we wouldn’t have survived the last four years. Second terms are where the legacy projects come in, and he’s a lame duck the last two years anyway. Unless history goes totally out the window then most of what he’s going to ever get done he’s already gotten done. We’ll survive this.

alchemist19 on November 7, 2012 at 12:21 AM

He’s already issued more executive orders than all the preceding presidents combined including that EO relating to immigration. He told Putin basically he’ll surrender to him in the second term. Israel will have to go it alone. Al Qaeda will re-emerge even stronger because he’s arming them.

His second term will complete the transformation to Marxist tyranny. Most won’t even realize it and will willingly accept it. And as evidence that the people will willingly accept it, all one has to do is look at tonight’s outcome.

bgibbs1000 on November 7, 2012 at 12:33 AM

Jeebus.

I live in a state that went for Obuggerme, elected to the Senate a lesbian cap and trade warmer, and in a district where the lesbian was Congress-critter. They replaced her with a fat, bearded, redstributionist homosexual. I think this one is male. Sort of.

There are, however, unsuprisingly, a lot of liquor stores.

M240H on November 7, 2012 at 12:33 AM

I hope all the Jewish voters in Florida know that they have rung the death knell for Israel.

Belle on November 7, 2012 at 12:33 AM

Maybe I’m just cynical, but I don’t see us ever recovering from this. When in the past have we ever turned back the growth of government? Granted there have been few times where we have slowed its growth, but for the most part we have been in a slow creep toward totalitarianism since reconstruction.

Elchasebo on November 7, 2012 at 12:24 AM

I agree. We have basically side-stepped one of the fundamental ideas of the constitution: the limitation of power through checks and balances. We have now placed so much unchecked power into the federal bureaucracy that it has altered the relationship between the citizen and the federal state.

By giving the government free reign in all things, we have unleashed another fundamental point: Government grows through failure.

We might think that with 4 years of ObamaCare and ObamaCare failure that the populace will be ripe to see a curtailing of federal power. I’m not so sanguine. The argument will be made that ObamaCare’s failure is due to it not going far enough and that all will be well if it is expanded with more powers, more regulatory oversight and more required from the people who are not paying “their fair share”. Can anyone of us be confident after tonight that such an argument won’t have a willing audience?

No … we are on this road and we show no signs of turning.

PackerBronco on November 7, 2012 at 12:34 AM

States are the key … this is still a union of fifty separate states. They should do whatever possible to rid themselves of federal mandates and requirements. Just say no.

darwin on November 7, 2012 at 12:28 AM

Do you REALLY think the states can fight the full power of the Fed govt? Especially after the installation of the liberal supreme court justices? You are kidding yourself.

kcd on November 7, 2012 at 12:34 AM

I’m baffled that America re-elected a socialist placing us on a path to lose our Constitutional rights & freedoms.

Belle on November 7, 2012 at 12:24 AM

After having Hot Air back Romney in the Primary. Having had the people who comment here go completely SEIU thuggery on anyone who brought up the history of Romney during and after the primary. I am not baffled one bit. The fact is that people who are Republican are almost as bad as the Democrat party they claim to loath. If Republicans are that way, it is not hard to imagine that the other portion of the population voting for Obama.

astonerii on November 7, 2012 at 12:35 AM

He’s already issued more executive orders than all the preceding presidents combined including that EO relating to immigration. He told Putin basically he’ll surrender to him in the second term. Israel will have to go it alone. Al Qaeda will re-emerge even stronger because he’s arming them.

His second term will complete the transformation to Marxist tyranny. Most won’t even realize it and will willingly accept it. And as evidence that the people will willingly accept it, all one has to do is look at tonight’s outcome.

bgibbs1000 on November 7, 2012 at 12:33 AM

If you’d like to lose another $100 bet and want to spell out some specifics on what you mean by “Marxist tyranny”……

alchemist19 on November 7, 2012 at 12:35 AM

That’s good – Wisconsin cheese is out for sure. Florida oranges – Goodbye! California grapes – see ya! Not sure what I can boycott from Ohio but I’ll definitely root for Cleveland teams to continue to fail every year.

Ballistic on November 7, 2012 at 12:32 AM

Aww. We don’t need anymore help in that area! :)

ConDem on November 7, 2012 at 12:37 AM

Do not despair. Stay strong and think about what you need to do to survive from here on out.

ConDem on November 7, 2012 at 12:28 AM

darwin on November 7, 2012 at 12:28 AM

I have gone Galt, so the Barry zombies can build their hell without me contributing to their efforts. I also have option, by leaving the hell hole. I’ll see what Barry/Reid and the dems will bring and I’ll decide on staying or going.
Screw the prospect of 4 more years of the grifter couple defiling the office.

bayview on November 7, 2012 at 12:37 AM

Please somebody lobotomize me so I can forget this nightmare and live the rest of my life as a content idiot as the country goes to hell.

jazzmo on November 7, 2012 at 12:38 AM

States are the key … this is still a union of fifty separate states. They should do whatever possible to rid themselves of federal mandates and requirements. Just say no.

This option went out with the 17th Amendment. States have absolutely no say in Federal proceedings anymore.

Elchasebo on November 7, 2012 at 12:38 AM

And give rise to the Tea Party perhaps?

F15Mech on November 7, 2012 at 12:32 AM

That’s my thinking. Something has to be better than what the GOP has done over these last several years.

As for the next four years, I, being a bit of a “country boy can survive” type,am starting to think that the House should just back off and give this turd everything he wants. That will make life very, very, tough. But it might be the only thing that will wake people up.

I’ll get through it one way or another. But when the “freebie crowd” starts to realize that their way of life is going in the crapper, because it can’t be paid for, maybe they will open their eyes.

predator on November 7, 2012 at 12:38 AM

Oh wow. Melting Bunny & I am a Walrus??? Yeah, it’s that bad. :(

conservative pilgrim on November 7, 2012 at 12:39 AM

You’re missing the point. At what point do we ever reverse this? How?

ChicagoJewishGuy on November 7, 2012 at 12:26 AM

We reverse it four years from now.

alchemist19 on November 7, 2012 at 12:28 AM

How? Obama failed on every metric. He missed his own goalposts. Romney ran, for all his faults, a decent campaign. Momentum, turnout, approval ratings, economic indicators, all in our favor. Sure there was fraud, but how much already? What makes you think that everything will be magically ok four years from now?

ChicagoJewishGuy on November 7, 2012 at 12:39 AM

And give rise to the Tea Party perhaps?

F15Mech on November 7, 2012 at 12:32 AM

Yes, they can run Akin, now that he is available.

bayview on November 7, 2012 at 12:40 AM

But when the “freebie crowd” starts to realize that their way of life is going in the crapper, because it can’t be paid for, maybe they will open their eyes.

predator on November 7, 2012 at 12:38 AM

Yeah, that worked well in… nowhere.

ChicagoJewishGuy on November 7, 2012 at 12:40 AM

In the immortal words of Ted Kennedy…

” the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die.”

faraway on November 7, 2012 at 12:41 AM

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That’s a whole lot of close races. MN within 3. PA and MI in 5.. CO, WI, IA, FL, VA all within a few points. If election were 10 days ago…
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gumbyandpokey on November 7, 2012 at 12:41 AM

A comment from an Obama supporter on the New York Post’s Facebook post about Obama’s victory, in response to someone who said that she hopes everyone who voted for Obama ends up losing their job:

Melissa get over it we are here for 4 more years if we lose our jobs we get welfare

Sharke on November 7, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Voter from WA State on November 7, 2012 at 12:40 AM

With a senate controlled by the dems and Harry Reid? Are you more drunk than I am now?

bayview on November 7, 2012 at 12:41 AM

I also feel this may be the beginning of the end. Our local radio guy said it best. He said that he did not see this coming. That he was SURE Romney would win. Now he is wondering how he could be that out of touch with what America has chosen. WHY didn’t he even have a clue that Obama could win.

AZgranny on November 7, 2012 at 12:20 AM

My answer…

Many like-minded patriots that love our nation, believe in freedom, capitalism, self-determination, self-responsibility and righteousness find it difficult to fathom that (now) a majority of our voting populace don’t have a grasp (or a sense of importance) of these basic concepts. Today, these ideals seem quaint, outdated, and worthy to be discarded.

We “old schoolers” were raised differently, educated differently, and have a completely different perspective and set of values.

The commies that began to sow their anti-American/anti-Christian seeds in our halls of education and media beginning some 60 years ago knew they would eventually sprout and grow large fruit if they were patient enough; today they have their bountiful harvest with many more abundant crops on the horizon.

Recent decades of “good times” in which we’ve been entertained and well fed… we’ve suffered (comparatively) little personal hardship. This led many of us to become complacent and indifferent about the subtle yet destructive changes going on in Washington; we demanded little of our elected representatives other than maybe pork to be sent back home or a check to be handed over to us.

E-R

electric-rascal on November 7, 2012 at 12:42 AM

Hey guys, didn’t want to let this evening go by without saying something. I’m a dedicated reader of this site. I haven’t missed a post title for 3 years. I’ve laughed along with everyone of you and enjoyed our camaraderie. I might even be saying this for a lot of other people who don’t or can’t post comments, I don’t know, but you’ve been a source of encouragement. It’s nice to know we’re not alone. Thank you to all of you who spend so much time making it a great site. God bless you and God bless America.

conservativescientist on November 7, 2012 at 12:42 AM

My 83 year old father-in-law (rest his soul) told me years ago : “Now that the states have lost their rights, you will see the country decline rapidly and it will not survive”

kcd on November 7, 2012 at 12:42 AM

Well, this is what the Paul/Johnson/Libertarian supporters wanted.
As for myself, I am going to sit down and figure out how I can take advantage of the majority of Americans who are obviously gullible, ill informed and selfish.

Vince on November 7, 2012 at 12:43 AM

If you’d like to lose another $100 bet and want to spell out some specifics on what you mean by “Marxist tyranny”……

alchemist19 on November 7, 2012 at 12:35 AM

I’m not trying to argue with you and I’m not interested in betting right now for obvious reasons. Would like to ask you though just exactly how do you think the country can survive because I just don’t see it? Exactly what do you think will happen over the next four years? The guy said he would transform the country, looks like to me he’s doing it.

bgibbs1000 on November 7, 2012 at 12:43 AM

Oh, good grief . . . there is no way this loss is because of Romney. It is because of stupid, greedy, racist people. Simple as that.

Voter from WA State on November 7, 2012 at 12:38 AM

Get rid of the racist remark and i might take you seriously.

But many of the stupid and greedy people are claiming on this site to be Republicans. Care to square that circle?

Stupid. They think they pay INTO social Security and Medicare. Hint, if they did, we would not have 16 trillion and growing in debt.

Greedy. Even when they are shown that the above is not true, they have no problem declaring that younger people OWE them a retirement and healthcare when they get to an age certain. They actually own the labor of people who are not remotely connected to them. I call that slavery.

As far as racist… I am sure the Democrats are in large part, but not the Republicans in large part.

astonerii on November 7, 2012 at 12:43 AM

RINO me once, shame on me.

RINO me twice, ???

faraway on November 7, 2012 at 12:44 AM

I hope the same. Otherwise I am buying land in Texas and ready to emigrate (again) to the wife’s homeland.

donkichi on November 7, 2012 at 12:32 AM

Better yet have your wife’s friends come to VA. That has always been the problem, liberals are like locusts they invade an area and completely destroy it, and rather then fix it they move on to another state. What is going on in VA is going to occur in TX in a few years because VA has been invaded by locusts from MD and other states because they destroyed any chance of being successful in their home state.

Do Texas a favor, ban anyone from moving into Texas without submitting an application first.

F15Mech on November 7, 2012 at 12:45 AM

I don’t every recall feeling this bad in my entire life. Such utter despair.
Obamacare will kill me financially. Revenge will come when liberals get to fill out all those forms from the IRS. Oh, I forgot, Muslims, welfare recipients, Amish, Congress, all exempt from this monstrosity.

Belle on November 7, 2012 at 12:46 AM

And how about that Supreme Court in the next four years?

predator on November 7, 2012 at 12:46 AM

The Millennials (my generation) are the most selfish, slothful, self-centered generation this country has ever seen. It’s so depressing. I can’t wait to see what garbage generation we produce.

Elchasebo on November 7, 2012 at 12:46 AM

Melissa get over it we are here for 4 more years if we lose our jobs we get welfare

Sharke on November 7, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Man, that pisses me off! This twit has no idea, that if nobody is working, there are no welfare checks! I hope that stupid b&^ch is eating out of a garbage can, this time next year!

kcd on November 7, 2012 at 12:47 AM

Russia will start making moves in the next few weeks.

faraway on November 7, 2012 at 12:47 AM

Melissa get over it we are here for 4 more years if we lose our jobs we get welfare

Sharke on November 7, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Elegant and simple.

Well, settles it for me. I’m going to pay as little for their welfare as I can. Now it’s a question of building what I was trying to build and keeping it away from Melissa’s friends . . .

Axe on November 7, 2012 at 12:48 AM

Yeah, that worked well in… nowhere.

ChicagoJewishGuy on November 7, 2012 at 12:40 AM

Well then they can rot in the sewer they built. I’ll head for the high country if I have to and live better, and freer, than they will.

Have fun in the city.

predator on November 7, 2012 at 12:48 AM

Loathing Obama & Progressives for 4 more years can be lucrative business.

Resist We Much on November 7, 2012 at 12:08 AM

That is the calculus of Bill Kristol.

bayview on November 7, 2012 at 12:48 AM

How? Obama failed on every metric. He missed his own goalposts. Romney ran, for all his faults, a decent campaign. Momentum, turnout, approval ratings, economic indicators, all in our favor. Sure there was fraud, but how much already? What makes you think that everything will be magically ok four years from now?

ChicagoJewishGuy on November 7, 2012 at 12:39 AM

Obama and his team are excellent and effective campaigners; they were masters of slick packaging and you don’t need to look far to see that Americans love anything that comes in a fancy box. I’m not happy about that fact but booing it doesn’t make it any less true. If that’s the way the field is striped then that’s the way we have to play the game. Like I said several drinks ago, we just need to find an articulate, telegenic spokesman for conservatism who sounds intelligent (and can answer the freaking rape baby gotcha question!) and we will be fine. And luckily for us we’ve already got someone who fits that bill perfectly and is sitting in the Senate right now.

alchemist19 on November 7, 2012 at 12:48 AM

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