United Auto Workers chief rips Obama on manufacturing job losses

posted at 6:41 pm on November 5, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

In their bid to lock down Ohio and keep Michigan in the blue, the Obama campaign has touted few narratives quite as keenly as the “Obama saved the American auto industry with his bailouts and has since saved/created countless America manufacturing jobs” narrative, while actively criticizing Mitt Romney for what they deceptively characterize as a “let them eat cake” attitude toward Detroit.

In an open letter to Defense Secretary Leon Panetta published on Monday, United Auto Workers President Bob King put something of a damper on that well-trumpeted narrative, slamming the Obama administration’s cancellation of battle tank upgrades because of the potential for job losses in the industrial and manufacturing-heavy Midwest.

On behalf of the UAW’s more than one million active and retired members, I write to express our concern with the Army’s proposal to end tank modernization. This plan places in jeopardy our armor industrial base and would result in the loss of thousands of good paying manufacturing jobs across the United States.

American workers have been building tanks since 1941 and UAW members in Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania are proud of our contributions to ensure our armed forces are the best equipped and the most protected. For 20 years, Pentagon policy has been to build tanks today to ensure the ability to do so in the future.

The Army’s proposal, however, puts at great risk this specialized, highly-skilled, high-wage workforce that makes up the unique armor industrial base, which includes over 800 large and small critical suppliers around the United States. It places at risk 1,000 UAW jobs in central Ohio.

Did that irresistibly recall Obama’s condescending “horses and bayonets” lecture (which actually demonstrated how poorly he understands military operations, not Mitt Romney) to anyone else’s mind? And as King writes, the UAW has more than a million total active and retired members, and is headquartered in Detroit, Michigan. Although he doesn’t mention Obama by name, his indictment echoes criticisms that Team Romney has made in local ads in the Midwest that directly impugn the Pentagon and White House’s decision to push back on Congress’ request to expand the Abrams tank program. Manufacturing jobs, and national security policy? Two birds, one stone. I’d wager that this is a most unwelcome development in Obamaland.


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Obama continues to lie about the economy and everything he’s touched has turned to rusted fools gold.

Kini on November 5, 2012 at 7:23 PM

Ladies and Gentlemen, without further adieu, back by popular demand all the way from the Big Island, ALOHA KINI GUY!

KINI!!!

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 7:26 PM

It’s like freaking old home week on Hot Air tonight.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 7:27 PM

HS! You’re back!

/Or, I’m back.. or whatever. Great to see you!!

Key West Reader on November 5, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Key West Reader:

YOU never left,goooooooooooood to see you as well KWY:)

canopfor on November 5, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Obama continues to lie about the economy and everything he’s touched has turned to rusted fools gold.

Kini on November 5, 2012 at 7:23 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen, without further adieu, back by popular demand all the way from the Big Island, ALOHA KINI GUY!

KINI!!!

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 7:26 PM

It’s like freaking old home week on Hot Air tonight.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 7:27 PM

I’m excited! Took Wednesday off just in case I’m a blithering ball of tears

Key West Reader on November 5, 2012 at 7:28 PM

No way he calls out 0bama on the day before the election unless he is fairly certain that there aren’t going to be any repurcussions.

Lou Budvis on November 5, 2012 at 7:28 PM

YOU never left,goooooooooooood to see you as well KWY:)

canopfor on November 5, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Hugs, Canicki!

Key West Reader on November 5, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Oh dear… Looks like 7% just gained another drinking victim, errr buddy… ;p

SWalker on November 5, 2012 at 7:23 PM

LoLz..Will have it close on hand for sure..:)

Dire Straits on November 5, 2012 at 7:29 PM

Hhhhmmmmmm, Headline on Drudge:

Colorado Anne on November 5, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Looks like the ‘cook kids’are coming out tonight.

Rio Linda Refugee on November 5, 2012 at 7:31 PM

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 7:27 PM
I’m excited! Took Wednesday off just in case I’m a blithering ball of tears

Key West Reader on November 5, 2012 at 7:28 PM

They’ll be good tears tomorrow.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Colorado Anne on November 5, 2012 at 7:31 PM

LOLOLOL. Flee! Flee with your lives!

Philly on November 5, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Speaking of making there beds…………..

Citing Shared Values, AFL-CIO Unions Vote to Endorse Obama for Second Term
03/13/2012
************

While President Obama has placed his faith in America’s working men and women to lead our country to economic recovery, Republican presidential candidates have pledged their loyalty to Wall Street and the 1%. Today the AFL-CIO General Board “voted proudly and enthusiastically” to endorse Obama for a second term.

Says AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka in a statement:

With our endorsement today, we affirm our faith in him—and pledge to work with him through the election and his second term to restore fairness, security and shared prosperity.

Trumka says the union movement agrees with the Republican hopefuls who say this election is about “values”—but there is quite a contrast between Obama’s values and those of his challengers.

President Obama honors the values of hard work, of mutual respect and of solving problems together—not every person for himself or herself. He believes that together we will get through the most challenging economic crisis in memory and restore opportunity for all. Each of the Republican presidential candidates, on the other hand, has pledged to uphold the special privileges of Wall Street and the 1%—privileges that have produced historic economic inequality and drowned out the voices of working people in America.

When Obama took office, says Trumka,
*************************************

the nation was on the brink of a second Great Depression

and, over strenuous Republican opposition,

he pressed Congress to pass the American Recovery

and Reinvestment Act,

which saved or created 3.6 million jobs.
========================================

http://www.aflcio.org/Blog/Political-Action-Legislation/Citing-Shared-Values-AFL-CIO-Unions-Vote-to-Endorse-Obama-for-Second-Term

canopfor on November 5, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Oh dear… Looks like 7% just gained another drinking victim, errr buddy… ;p

SWalker on November 5, 2012 at 7:23 PM

LoLz..Will have it close on hand for sure..:)

Dire Straits on November 5, 2012 at 7:29 PM

I find drinking with 7% to be, ummm, well very dangerous. Do not drink every time he says *clink* you and the ground are very likely to become intimate if you do… o_O

SWalker on November 5, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Union types deserve it. Trumpka should ferment in it.
Jerk?

HornetSting on November 5, 2012 at 6:59 PM

HS! You’re back!

/Or, I’m back.. or whatever. Great to see you!!

Key West Reader on November 5, 2012 at 7:25 PM

We’re back! Great to see you too! I wouldn’t miss this for anything!
I truly believe we are going to have something to smile about tomorrow.

HornetSting on November 5, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Oh dear… Looks like 7% just gained another drinking victim, errr buddy… ;p

SWalker on November 5, 2012 at 7:23 PM

LoLz..Will have it close on hand for sure..:)

Dire Straits on November 5, 2012 at 7:29 PM

DS…they’ll let anyone in here! How you doing friend? Hope all is well!
If you drink with 7%, make sure he sends you the 7-Stomach Pump first!

HornetSting on November 5, 2012 at 7:34 PM

Hhhhmmmmmm, Headline on Drudge:

Colorado Anne on November 5, 2012 at 7:31 PM

BWAHAHAHAHAH…. Stephine Cutter (Worlds biggest liar) to democrats, don’t be worried if Obama isn’t ahead in the exit polls…

SWalker on November 5, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Hhhhmmmmmm, Headline on Drudge:

Colorado Anne on November 5, 2012 at 7:31 PM

In another statement, Obama told his supporters to not be upset by early Eastern States being called for Mitt Romney.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Outward I’m staying calm, but starting to feel nervous. Hoping to be happy tomorrow night. :)

22044 on November 5, 2012 at 7:36 PM

Check my math: 1m UAW (and retired) is .3% of the population, and about 1% of the voting age population.

I’ve always held the opinion that under 5% of anything should just sit down and shut up.

So, quit whining you 1%-er.

Who is John Galt on November 5, 2012 at 7:36 PM

D*mmitt,Capt’Ed,will be posting from Gorgeous Sandy shores….(sarc)

Jazz Shaw ‏@JazzShaw

@EdMorrissey I would also consider a position as Ambassador to Key West.

https://twitter.com/JazzShaw

canopfor on November 5, 2012 at 7:36 PM

Colorado Anne on November 5, 2012 at 7:31 PM

I suspect they know something that’s making them uneasy.

We shall see what we shall see.

CPT. Charles on November 5, 2012 at 7:36 PM

I’m excited! Took Wednesday off just in case I’m a blithering ball of tears

Key West Reader on November 5, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Something tells me this time they will be happy tears.

arnold ziffel on November 5, 2012 at 7:36 PM

Hhhhmmmmmm, Headline on Drudge:

Colorado Anne on November 5, 2012 at 7:31 PM
In another statement, Obama told his supporters to not be upset by early Eastern States being called for Mitt Romney.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 7:35 PM

In one more statement, Obama told his supporters not to be upset if they call the election for Romney before 10PM EST. He told them to just remain calm and hang in there till “he” says it’s really over.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 7:38 PM

In another statement, Obama told his supporters to not be upset by early Eastern States being called for Mitt Romney.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Maybe Obama doesn’t want the riots to begin until after 9PM pacific time?

portlandon on November 5, 2012 at 7:39 PM

Looks like the ‘cook kids’are coming out tonight.

Rio Linda Refugee on November 5, 2012 at 7:31 PM

lol, do I know you?

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 7:39 PM

In another statement, Obama told his supporters to not be upset by early Eastern States being called for Mitt Romney.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Should they be upset by Midwest states being called for Romney? PS, tomorrow I’m voting for the country and revenge.

arnold ziffel on November 5, 2012 at 7:39 PM

Hhhhmmmmmm, Headline on Drudge:

Colorado Anne on November 5, 2012 at 7:31 PM

ty ty for that link. I am starting to get so anxious but continue to pray. The OH rally going on right now is also giving me strength to get through.

Yesterday I wanted to settle for the win; today I want a blowout!

CoffeeLover on November 5, 2012 at 7:40 PM

******* Alert ************

Romney Rally

Romney rallies in Columbus
LIVE VIDEO — Presidential hopeful Mitt Romney makes a campaign stop in Columbus, Ohio.

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nbcnews.com/49693521#49693521

canopfor on November 5, 2012 at 7:40 PM

We’re back! Great to see you too! I wouldn’t miss this for anything!
I truly believe we are going to have something to smile about tomorrow.

HornetSting on November 5, 2012 at 7:33 PM

I’m praying for sure!!!

Key West Reader on November 5, 2012 at 7:41 PM

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 7:35 PM
Maybe Obama doesn’t want the riots to begin until after 9PM pacific time?

portlandon on November 5, 2012 at 7:39 PM

I can see him now, sitting behind the Oval Office desk with his hands on the desk, fingers interlocked. And about the time you imagine he’s going to admit defeat and concede, he suddenly throws his arms up and says, “Let The Riots Begin!”

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 7:41 PM

kinda late?
rob verdi on November 5, 2012 at 6:44 PM

Hmm… no.

The election is tomorrow, and I suspect that this has been a topic of discussion within the UAW for a while now.

All of them know who’s driving the bus… and who needs to be thrown under it.

I’ll regard it as a delightful dish of irony… served cold.

CPT. Charles on November 5, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Wow, the gang’s all here…hope HA’s servers are up to the task tomorrow.

10k posts or bust!

Who is John Galt on November 5, 2012 at 7:42 PM

HornetSting on November 5, 2012 at 7:34 PM

Good to see you also..I was hoping you would start showing up..Need you in the game..:):)

PS..Hope you and yours are doing well..:)

Dire Straits on November 5, 2012 at 7:42 PM

SWalker on November 5, 2012 at 7:32 PM

LoLz..:)

Dire Straits on November 5, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Mitt’s Body Man ‏@dgjackson

View from cockpit as plane pulls in to hangar filled with thousands of people waiting. As a pilot, really cool to watch pic.twitter.com/cagv7Lxn

https://twitter.com/dgjackson/status/265613501995814912/photo/1

canopfor on November 5, 2012 at 7:44 PM

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 7:35 PM
Should they be upset by Midwest states being called for Romney? PS, tomorrow I’m voting for the country and revenge.

arnold ziffel on November 5, 2012 at 7:39 PM

I’m voting for one main thing, Arnold.

I’m voting for the country and sarcasm!

Two things! Two main things I’m voting for.

The country, sarcasm and an almost fanatical devotion to the Conservative Party and GOP.

Three things …

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 7:45 PM

Where did Kini go?

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 7:45 PM

In one more statement, Obama told his supporters not to be upset if they call the election for Romney before 10PM EST. He told them to just remain calm and hang in there till “he” says it’s really over.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 7:38 PM

WOW!!!!

Colorado Anne on November 5, 2012 at 7:46 PM

Hawk, you know me Chief, I’m on my phone though and don’t know how to copy /paste with it .

Rio Linda Refugee on November 5, 2012 at 7:47 PM

YOU never left,goooooooooooood to see you as well KWY:)

canopfor on November 5, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Hugs, Canicki!

Key West Reader on November 5, 2012 at 7:28 PM

Key West Reader:*Huggies Back at Ya*,Glad your here:)

canopfor on November 5, 2012 at 7:47 PM

It’s easier to just blame it on unions… while ignoring reality.
 
bayam on August 9, 2012 at 7:07 PM

rogerb on November 5, 2012 at 7:47 PM

Mitt’s Body Man ‏@dgjackson

Massive crowd in Columbus, Ohio. WOW! They are loud. #RomneyRyan2012 pic.twitter.com/FWPfATMu

https://twitter.com/dgjackson/status/265614571279097856/photo/1

canopfor on November 5, 2012 at 7:49 PM

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 7:02 PM

He’s got that huge “L” written on his forehead.

PatriotGal2257 on November 5, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Hawk, you know me Chief, I’m on my phone though and don’t know how to copy /paste with it .

Rio Linda Refugee on November 5, 2012 at 7:47 PM

Are you going to be on the other site for the election thread IMA set up?

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Wow,a reunion!
Must have heard of the TROLLCOTT success. It has been very pleasant commenting here at HA recently.

IowaWoman on November 5, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Where did Kini go?

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 7:45 PM

hawkdriver:Dunno??!!

canopfor on November 5, 2012 at 7:51 PM

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 7:38 PM
WOW!!!!

Colorado Anne on November 5, 2012 at 7:46 PM

You know I’m pulling your leg?

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 7:53 PM

You made your bed…

Oil Can on November 5, 2012 at 6:44 PM

They can sleep in the Wet spot.

portlandon on November 5, 2012 at 6:50 PM

ROFL. I actually spit on the screen while laughing.

JennM111 on November 5, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Iowa Woman! It is a reunion.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 7:54 PM

canopfor on November 5, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Alternate title: fat pig knows who fills his trough.

slickwillie2001 on November 5, 2012 at 7:55 PM

canopfor…thanx for the pics. It was great seeing them open the hangar door and that plane pull in :)

Come on OH get out their and vote!

CoffeeLover on November 5, 2012 at 7:57 PM

Hmmm, Ohio & Michigan in the Romney camp?

rbj on November 5, 2012 at 6:53 PM

i’m in michigan…and we must have gotten 50 calls
this week…..almost all R&R….one more day peeps…!!!

going2mars on November 5, 2012 at 7:58 PM

Iowa Woman! It is a reunion.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 7:54 PM

hawkdriver:

Heres a Twitter Linky,almost has every Linky that one might need:)

Get instant updates on #election2012
*************************************

https://twitter.com/search/users/%23election2012

canopfor on November 5, 2012 at 7:58 PM

So, there you are! It’s a mortal lock! Romney will win and all I will be able to do is pound down club soda!

The War Planner

Poor bastid! I feel for you man.

I have Sidecars on the menu…a drink from the 1930′s, my last hubbie introduced me to…equal parts brandy/cointreau/lemon juice in a sugar rimmed Martini glass.

Either way, it goes straight to the brain…like a Martini.
Don Draper would be pleased.

Typicalwhitewoman on November 5, 2012 at 7:59 PM

Hawk, I’m at the Grand Canyon and will try to get there tomorrow night.

Rio Linda Refugee on November 5, 2012 at 7:59 PM

No way he calls out 0bama on the day before the election unless he is fairly certain that there aren’t going to be any repurcussions.

Lou Budvis on November 5, 2012 at 7:28 PM

~
; )
^

RalphyBoy on November 5, 2012 at 8:02 PM

canopfor on November 5, 2012 at 7:58 PM

You have the best links cano.

And I’ll see you on FB tomorrow RLR.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Oh, and do they have bayonets on those tanks?
-

RalphyBoy on November 5, 2012 at 8:04 PM

You know I’m pulling your leg?

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 7:53 PM

Ha-
I’d believe it.

Colorado Anne on November 5, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Looks like the ‘cook kids’are coming out tonight.

Rio Linda Refugee on November 5, 2012 at 7:31 PM

lol, do I know you?

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 7:39 PM

I think he used to be someone else, and I’ve been meaning to ask, but didn’t want to guess the former name without permission.

Night Owl on November 5, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Tanks? I can’t believe we still have tanks. They don’t seem very useful unless you are gonna do nation building.

Buddahpundit on November 5, 2012 at 8:14 PM

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 7:39 PM
I think he used to be someone else, and I’ve been meaning to ask, but didn’t want to guess the former name without permission.

Night Owl on November 5, 2012 at 8:10 PM

A bunch of very Conservative GOPers, Libertarians and Conservative Party members just got tired of the trolls and started another discussion site. They’re great folks.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 8:14 PM

A bunch of very Conservative GOPers, Libertarians and Conservative Party members just got tired of the trolls and started another discussion site. They’re great folks.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 8:14 PM

…where could someone look for that again?

KOOLAID2 on November 5, 2012 at 8:17 PM

having been a designer of both tanks and planes for
over 30 years….you need both…planes to make a point…tanks to take and hold land….you cant hold land,,,,from the air…

going2mars on November 5, 2012 at 8:17 PM

…where could someone look for that again?

KOOLAID2 on November 5, 2012 at 8:17 PM

Yeah…sounds like fun.

Who is John Galt on November 5, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Yeah…sounds like fun.

Who is John Galt on November 5, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Best discussion site for very Conservative GOPers, Libertarians and Conservative Party members evah!

IowaWoman on November 5, 2012 at 8:24 PM

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 8:14 PM

Do you remember thomasaur..:)

Dire Straits on November 5, 2012 at 8:25 PM

Meh. Too little, too late to make a difference.

The Rogue Tomato on November 5, 2012 at 8:25 PM

tanks to take and hold land….you cant hold land,,,,from the air…

going2mars on November 5, 2012 at 8:17 PM

Sure you can. What can’t you kill by air that you can kill with a tank? If you are “holding” a piece of land, you only want to kill anything that comes onto the land that you don’t want there. Anything else is an abstract idea of “holding”. I don’t see what makes a tank superior at killing unwelcome occupiers.

Buddahpundit on November 5, 2012 at 8:29 PM

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 8:14 PM
Do you remember thomasaur..:)

Dire Straits on November 5, 2012 at 8:25 PM

I do. Ah!

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Best discussion site for very Conservative GOPers, Libertarians and Conservative Party members evah!

IowaWoman on November 5, 2012 at 8:24

Uh, linky?

HA was, but showing it’s age – needs Twitchy’s comment system, IMO.

Who is John Galt on November 5, 2012 at 8:33 PM

The rats only have a few hours left to jump ship … they had better hurry, it’s sinking fast.

Pork-Chop on November 5, 2012 at 8:34 PM

canopfor on November 5, 2012 at 7:58 PM

You have the best links cano.

And I’ll see you on FB tomorrow RLR.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 8:04 PM

hawkdriver: 10-4:)

canopfor on November 5, 2012 at 8:34 PM

canopfor on November 5, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Alternate title: fat pig knows who fills his trough.

slickwillie2001 on November 5, 2012 at 7:55 PM

slickwillie2001:Haha,good one!:)

canopfor on November 5, 2012 at 8:37 PM

Sure you can. What can’t you kill by air that you can kill with a tank? If you are “holding” a piece of land, you only want to kill anything that comes onto the land that you don’t want there. Anything else is an abstract idea of “holding”. I don’t see what makes a tank superior at killing unwelcome occupiers.

Buddahpundit on November 5, 2012 at 8:29 PM

Tanks are really good at taking stuff away from the bad guys. Air is really good at helping tanks. Air is really good at keeping the bad guys away from the stuff you have. So are Tanks. Ya need both.

Who is John Galt on November 5, 2012 at 8:38 PM

canopfor…thanx for the pics. It was great seeing them open the hangar door and that plane pull in :)

Come on OH get out their and vote!

CoffeeLover on November 5, 2012 at 7:57 PM

coffeeLover:Yup,planes are soooo cool,glad you liked them,
and theres a Rally tonight at 11:00PM:)
====================================================

Mitt & Ann Romney Attend Final Rally in New Hampshire
*****************************************************

Mitt Romney, Ann Romney Final Rally in Manchester, NH: Live at 11pm (ET)

http://www.c-span.org/Campaign2012/Events/Mitt-Ann-Romney-Attend-Final-Rally-in-New-Hampshire/10737435613/

canopfor on November 5, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Best discussion site for very Conservative GOPers, Libertarians and Conservative Party members evah!

IowaWoman on November 5, 2012 at 8:24

Uh, linky?

HA was, but showing it’s age – needs Twitchy’s comment system, IMO.

Who is John Galt on November 5, 2012 at 8:33 PM

W H E R E ?

KOOLAID2 on November 5, 2012 at 8:41 PM

I gotta change hotels tomorrow. This one, in RED OAK TEXAS (cough Comfort Inn), has neither FoxNews nor even CNN.

Can’t. Stay. Here. Tomorrow.

Who is John Galt on November 5, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Buddahpundit on November 5, 2012 at 8:29 PM

Rainy days? Fog? Snow?

BobMbx on November 5, 2012 at 8:45 PM

IowaWoman on November 5, 2012 at 8:24 PM

lol

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Who is John Galt on November 5, 2012 at 8:33 PM
W H E R E ?

KOOLAID2 on November 5, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Do you have a throwaway account?

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 8:51 PM

Every time these clowns come up with a new idea, they kill more jobs. Just as often they’re union jobs they’re killing, too. Lol! The Failure-in-chief just keeps stepping in it. No matter what he tries, He’s in over his head! The only thing this clown knows how to do is be a Racist and Lie. What a POS! Benedict Obama needs a jail cell.
The fight against the Obama Enemy media continues: http://paratisiusa.blogspot.com/2012/09/an-open-letter-to-those-who-should-know.html?spref=tw

God Bless America!

paratisi on November 5, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Uh, linky?

HA was, but showing it’s age – needs Twitchy’s comment system, IMO.

Who is John Galt on November 5, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Sorry a link would not help, it is a closed group and you can only join by invitation. It is the only way to keep the trolls out. If you are invited by a member then the administrators have to OK it. I hope you have a friend there and are able to get in. I am just a member and invite only people I know, again good luck. :)

IowaWoman on November 5, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Do you have a throwaway account?

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 8:51 PM

No, but you can post on my (inactive) blog if you click my name.

Who is John Galt on November 5, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Who is John galt, Best Western they are worth the extra coin

Rio Linda Refugee on November 5, 2012 at 8:59 PM

I am a current UAW member (in my case, the “A” is Aerospace, not Automotive; both are part of the UAW). And by coincidence, today is my birthday. I am a simple man with simple needs. I would just like one (slightly late) birthday present tomorrow: to vote the POS currently occupying the White House out of office in a Reaganesque landslide. That’s not too much to ask, is it?

Moose Drool on November 5, 2012 at 8:59 PM

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 8:51 PM
No, but you can post on my (inactive) blog if you click my name.

Who is John Galt on November 5, 2012 at 8:56 PM

IowaWoman on November 5, 2012 at 8:52 PM

What the nice lady said.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 9:00 PM

This is a little late chief. You finally realize that with no businesses you have no jobs? Oh, and by the way, your man Obama does not intend to socialize manufacturing. He does not intend to encourage cheap energy. He intends to put you in a meaningless work party until your white ass dies. He intends America to be another meaningless, defenseless elephant awaiting the wonders of the third world liberation front.

pat on November 5, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Who is John Galt on November 5, 2012 at 8:33 PM
W H E R E ?

KOOLAID2 on November 5, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Do you have a throwaway account?

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 8:51 PM

….I’ll get one!

KOOLAID2 on November 5, 2012 at 9:12 PM

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 8:51 PM
….I’ll get one!

KOOLAID2 on November 5, 2012 at 9:12 PM

See the comment above from IowaWoman. I’m not a member there. But I know them.

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 9:15 PM

hawkdriver on November 5, 2012 at 8:51 PM

IowaWoman on November 5, 2012 at 8:52 PM

gordon_van@aol.com

KOOLAID2 on November 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM

Kini on November 5, 2012 at 7:23 PM

Aloha Kini. Has it been since the last election that we used to chat on a thread after the mainlanders had gone to bed?

HawaiiLwyr on November 5, 2012 at 10:45 PM

Aloha hawkdriver and HawaiiLwyr and canopfor! Thanks!

I didn’t realize it has been that long since I last posted here at HA. I should post more often!

Kini on November 5, 2012 at 11:29 PM

Rainy days? Fog? Snow?

BobMbx on November 5, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Good days for killing tanks? It’s not like you won’t be found. How do you fuel them and how weak must the enemy be to not be able to cut off that fuel supply?

Buddahpundit on November 6, 2012 at 4:49 AM

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