Open thread: Sunday morning talking heads

posted at 8:01 am on November 4, 2012 by Allahpundit

Surprised to see neither O nor Mitt scheduling any last-minute face time on the Sunday shows. Maybe it’s in the works and hasn’t been announced yet. If not, then the heaviest GOP hitter on tap is Rob Portman, who’ll give Ohio one last nudge in the right direction. For the Democrats it’ll be the Axelrod and Plouffe Show, now in its 200th week or so. Reason 8,357 to hope Romney wins: If he does, we almost certainly won’t see either of them next Sunday.

The line-up via the LAT:

State of the Union With Candy Crowley 2012 election: Mayor Rahm Emanuel (D-Chicago). 2012 election: Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio). Panel: Former Gov. Haley Barbour (R-Miss.); Steve Elmendorf, democratic strategist; Dana Bash; Gwen Ifill, PBS…

Face the Nation 2012 campaigns: David Gergen, Harvard; Rich Lowry, National Review; Dee Dee Myers, Vanity Fair; Peggy Noonan, Wall Street Journal. Panel: Democratic pollster Anna Greenberg; Republican strategist Leslie Sanchez; Stuart Rothenberg; Larry Sabato; Anthony Salvanto.

Meet the Press Obama campaign strategy: David Plouffe, White House advisor. Romney campaign; the Virginia battleground: Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.). Panel: Mayor Cory Booker (D-Newark, N.J.); Joe Scarborough; Republican strategist Mike Murphy; Savannah Guthrie; Tom Brokaw.

This Week With George Stephanopoulos 2012 election: White House advisor David Plouffe; Romney campaign advisor Ed Gillespie. Panel: George Will; Cokie Roberts; Ronald Brownstein; Donna Brazile; Matthew Dowd.

Fox News Sunday With Chris Wallace Obama campaign: David Axelrod, Obama advisor. Romney campaign: Rich Beeson, Romney campaign. Panel: Karl Rove; Brit Hume; Joe Trippi; Jeff Zeleny.


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Let’s get real people.

StoneKrab on November 4, 2012 at 9:36 AM

Yes, let’s discuss Silver’s column about how Derek Jeter was “all washed up” with Senator Sharron Angel (Silver gave her an 83.4% chance of beating Harry Reid).

Resist We Much on November 4, 2012 at 9:40 AM

30,000 turn out in Ohio for Romney…

Obama plays for just 2,800…

Wagthatdog on November 4, 2012 at 9:40 AM

Only way it could happen is if the Obama GOTV operation is asleep at the switch in PHilly or if there was torrential rain on Tuesday.

Stephanie Pokey Cutter, aka Pollshevik on November 4, 2012 at 9:37 AM

And there you have the entire Dem problem in a nutshell. Rain would keep them home. No enthusiasm unless it is bought and paid for.

Mitsouko on November 4, 2012 at 9:40 AM

When Gallup, Rasmussen and now Pew all agree that party ID is going to be arond 2004/10 (even),you have to question polls like OH being D+9.

wargamer6 on November 4, 2012 at 9:40 AM

Looking at the numbers now, without the hurricane, Obama probably would have lost.
gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 9:21 AM

Alright.

Seriously. Time to ban this fool.

Before the hurricane you never once admitted Romney had any kind of shot.

Never.

Time for everyone to start pressing Ed & AP for the banhammer.

budfox on November 4, 2012 at 9:40 AM

If Romney can pull 30K in ohio, in freezing cold, and zero can’t even fill a high school gym, he does not have a GOTV; and if he buses people in,10% of them will be voting Romney.

runner on November 4, 2012 at 9:41 AM

KOOLAID2 on November 4, 2012 at 9:38 AM

For what it’s worth, I’m not enamored that we keep feeding it either. We do well with ignoring others. Why not this one.

22044 on November 4, 2012 at 9:41 AM

KOOLAID2 on November 4, 2012 at 9:38 AM

Or they are thinking..”What the fluke? This stuff used to derail them, now they are just playing with us like a cat batting around a toy mouse.”

Mitsouko on November 4, 2012 at 9:42 AM

I think this will make a difference…

“So, as early voting began this month, Catholic publications, dioceses and individual parishes began distributing millions of pieces of literature advising members, in the words of Philadelphia’s Archbishop Charles Chaput, “to make sure that they’re Catholic prior to being Democrat or Republican…

In an interview with EWTN the Global Catholic Network, the archbishop said, “We do believe in the separation of church and state. But we don’t believe in the separation of faith from political life. It’s very important for Catholics to make distinctions when voting that they never support intrinsic evils like abortion, which is evil in all circumstances.”

One piece of widely-distributed literature given to church members on recent Sundays carries the photograph of Pope Benedict XVI and the title: “Voting and the Non-Negotiable Moral Principles.”

Faithful parishioners are given lengthy excerpts from the Republican and Democrat party platforms and left to choose, using their Catholic values:

“Life. The protection and dignity of every human life from conception to natural death. The framework within and against which every other issue must be measured.”

Read More At IBD: http://news.investors.com/politics-andrew-malcolm/103112-631540-catholic-church-leaders-outline-party-platforms-on-catholic-values.htm#ixzz2BGTc2ArA

workingclass artist on November 4, 2012 at 9:42 AM

Yes, because no one wants androids and robots nowwww….and don’t even get me started about puppets.

Lourdes on November 4, 2012 at 9:40 AM

oh…I see what you did there. See that’s funny because I said “real” people and you said, “no one wants androids and robots nowwww….and don’t even get me started about puppets.” You have a future in comedy sir.

StoneKrab on November 4, 2012 at 9:43 AM

That point or two that Obama gained by his Hurricane performance will likely give him his national vote victory margin.

Looking at the numbers now, without the hurricane, Obama probably would have lost.

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 9:21 AM

If it takes a HURRICANE to win your guy totally sucks.

Wagthatdog on November 4, 2012 at 9:43 AM

So because of the hurricane Democrats will suddenly become enthused almost to 2008 levels, and demoralized Republicans will stay home? You really are clueless, Gumby. And please tell me, what exactly has Obama done to handle this hurricane?

TarheelBen on November 4, 2012 at 9:35 AM

The hurricane has no effect on the die hards on either side.

But the low-info, average voter just eats up the Obama/Christie photo-op and the NJ Gov praising the President. And those voters are the one’s who decide elections. And even this morning, Obama and Christie are being spoken about in reverential terms. That makes a HUGE difference with that subset of voters.

If Bush had been in office, it would be nonstop coverage of the relief problems. Like it or not, the MSM controls the agenda, and if they really want to, they can dictate who wins elections. Chris Christie literally changed the course of this election with his effusive praise of Obama.

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 9:44 AM

One of the many things I look forward to in a Romney presidency is the return of genuine volunteerism and charitable giving. I think he and Mrs. Romney will be wonderful ambassadors for plain old garden variety kindness and compassion.

Mitsouko on November 4, 2012 at 9:27 AM

So nicely said.

Lourdes on November 4, 2012 at 9:45 AM

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 9:44 AM

Let your mom use her PC greg.

wargamer6 on November 4, 2012 at 9:45 AM

Let’s get real people.

StoneKrab on November 4, 2012 at 9:36 AM

Yeah. Let’s talk Silver.

Suddenly, the guy is talking about Early Voting in OH. Specifically, Cuyahoga County.

He’s just laying numbers out. About Cuyahoga County. Today.

And Chris Hayes wants to see the numbers, too.

Which, you can see at Resist’s page.

I wonder why.

Maybe, because Obama is going to need an even larger turnout than ’08 to offset other counties.

But, it’s beginning to really look like they’re cannibalizing their own Election Day voters.

Huh.

budfox on November 4, 2012 at 9:46 AM

The Trolls will be worse, today and tomorrow. They know that Obama has lost. They are like a clan of cavemen afraid of fire, or, in their cases, they’re afraid Mom is going to kick them out of the basement and make them find a…gasp…job.

Gumby, on the other hand, is a paid operative and needs to be banned immediately, as he was at Ace’s and Free Republic.

kingsjester on November 4, 2012 at 9:46 AM

If it takes a HURRICANE to win your guy totally sucks.

Wagthatdog on November 4, 2012 at 9:43 AM

He’s not my guy, but it did take a Hurricane and a publicity seeking Governor to win the election for Obama.

Fate intervened on Obama’s behalf.

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 9:46 AM

Brit Hume not especially enthusiastic; whereas Jeff Zeleney more upbeat for Romney.

Either the D+9 and higher polls are wrong and corrupting the RCP averages; or Obama has the better ground game.

I say a lot of these polls are garbage; and they will never be held to any accountability.

matthew8787 on November 4, 2012 at 9:46 AM

The Madison paper The Wisconsin State Journal endorses Romney/Ryan!

I have to tell you that people in Madison don’t go for Republicans b/c they will be absolutely shun and attacked by their liberal neighbors. For the State Journal to come out with the endorsement speaks volumes about the state the race in Wisconsin (notice that the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel chickened out and didn’t endorse anyone.)

PackerBronco on November 4, 2012 at 9:48 AM

…Obama is stuttering like a man who is trying to avoid utter humiliation.

Marcus on November 4, 2012 at 9:06 AM

Too late. He looked like that in January 2008 when he had to take the Oath of Office twice. It’s all been verification of utter humiliation ever since.

Lourdes on November 4, 2012 at 9:48 AM

Love this place very much. Emailed Ed. Gumby has to go. I’m tired of it. So much nonsense. Even as people die it cites polls.

Are we not better than that? With whom do we associate? Even if you are a leftie, certain standards should apply. I don’t mind decent debate. But,,, this isn’t.

Enough, Ed. Please?

wolly4321 on November 4, 2012 at 9:48 AM

Isn’t it correct, historically, that no president winning a second term performed worse than his first election? In other words, they lost?

(Excluding FDRs 3rd and 4th terms)

Wilson in 1916?

matthew8787 on November 4, 2012 at 9:49 AM

Not a blowout loss, but it would be a loss, imo. But Romney has to be bleeding Republicans to Obama for the numbers to add up.
It seems Ras does not push the Indies to declare for a party as Battleground does.

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 9:32 AM

Or perhaps Ras tweaked his sample to favor the dems more in order to maintain a tie as he has already done just this past week.

Give it up you can’t win, your commie boy won’t win either.

bgibbs1000 on November 4, 2012 at 9:50 AM

But the low-info, average voter just eats up the Obama/Christie photo-op and the NJ Gov praising the President.

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 9:44 AM

Like you?

TarheelBen on November 4, 2012 at 9:50 AM

RE: Obama had 25,000 at rally.

The rally was in Virginia, almost pizza-delivery distance from D.C.

Just try to explain to me how most of those 25,000 weren’t just spillover from the D.C. manure bank.

Glenn Jericho on November 4, 2012 at 9:50 AM

Gumby, on the other hand, is a paid operative and needs to be banned immediately, as he was at Ace’s and Free Republic.

kingsjester on November 4, 2012 at 9:46 AM

I agree about Gumby but as to Free Republic, they’ve been banning accounts for YEARS where anyone who supported Mitt Romney was concerned. It’s been a “we hate Romney” site for a long time now.

Lourdes on November 4, 2012 at 9:50 AM

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 9:46 AM

people are eating out of trash cans, gas lines miles long, people freezing.
fema has no gas to get to long island.

those images are really going to help obama. oh yeah.

renalin on November 4, 2012 at 9:51 AM

Before the hurricane you never once admitted Romney had any kind of shot.

Never.

I said a few days ago that I had heard about some internals in WI that showed Romney had a 1 pt lead immediately before the hurricane and that changed to a 2 pt Obama lead after his walk on the beach and Christie lovefest. WI had been quiet and I didn’t think there was much of a shot, but it looks like Romney would have had a fighting chance if the Frankenstorm hadn’t occurred.

I go by what the polls tell me.

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 9:51 AM

cmsinaz on November 4, 2012 at 9:06 AM

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I saw this and imagined Gregory and Chuckie in cheerleader skirts waving pom-poms and having Team Ø on their sweaters. The partisan pleasure of a lame duck, affirmative action president acting “presidential” for once excited them into the stratosphere.

ExpressoBold on November 4, 2012 at 9:52 AM

NY Daily News endorsement was excellent.

Not surprised to see the poll troll with the same crap this morning.

We’re going to win this thing!

gophergirl on November 4, 2012 at 9:52 AM

Just a pile of nonsense…

…And if people were “furious and growing more disgusted with the govt by the hour” then you would see movement to Romney and there is none.

Well, there you go again.

Obama seeks votes as complaints mount over storm response

I feel like a victim of Hurricane Katrina

FEMA Out Of Water, No Delivery Until Monday…

Hot Air only allows you to post 3 links per comment, so don’t go away Stephanie, I’ll be right back with some more.

Flora Duh on November 4, 2012 at 9:52 AM

people are eating out of trash cans, gas lines miles long, people freezing.
fema has no gas to get to long island.

those images are really going to help obama. oh yeah.

renalin on November 4, 2012 at 9:51 AM

You aren’t getting those images 24/7 like you did with Katrina. It only matters politically if it’s seen enough.

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 9:52 AM

Lourdes on November 4, 2012 at 9:50 AM

But, Gumby is not a Romney Operative. They found out over at Ace, that he is a paid campaign worker for Obama.

kingsjester on November 4, 2012 at 9:52 AM

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 9:44 AM

If what you were saying was remotely true, Indies wouldn’t be ID’ing as R’s in the BG poll.

That’s an admission from Politico. Not me deducing conclusions.

A +1 for Obama in BG only means he’ll carry swing states if he has the same turnout as ’08.

That’s why you’re seeing every pollster call it a draw.

It’s a fight between ’08 Dem turnout vs ’10 Repub turnout.

That’s what Obama inadvertently admitted to when he say “vote for revenge”. Revenge for the 2010 shellacking.

budfox on November 4, 2012 at 9:52 AM

But the low-info, average voter just eats up the Obama/Christie photo-op and the NJ Gov praising the President.

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 9:44 AM

Low info voters probably think that Christie is Obama’s VP and Governor of NJ.

Glenn Jericho on November 4, 2012 at 9:52 AM

(Excluding FDRs 3rd and 4th terms)

Only due to WWII

Conservative4ev on November 4, 2012 at 9:53 AM

The Madison paper The Wisconsin State Journal endorses Romney/Ryan!

I have to tell you that people in Madison don’t go for Republicans b/c they will be absolutely shun and attacked by their liberal neighbors. For the State Journal to come out with the endorsement speaks volumes about the state the race in Wisconsin (notice that the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel chickened out and didn’t endorse anyone.)

PackerBronco on November 4, 2012 at 9:48 AM

WOW that’s huge.

gophergirl on November 4, 2012 at 9:53 AM

kingsjester on November 4, 2012 at 9:46 AM

That was funny. Nice one.

SparkPlug on November 4, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Lourdes on November 4, 2012 at 9:50 AM

But, Gumby is not a Romney Operative. They found out over at Ace, that he is a paid campaign worker for Obama.

kingsjester on November 4, 2012 at 9:52 AM

Yes, I understand that, and agree that he/she/it is…but as to Free Rep., they do a lot of damage, or try to, to the GOP and by doing so, are witless in their indirect “support” for Obama, unfortunately. Like people who drive on the wrong side of the street and then go, “uhh, how did THAT happen” when there’s a car pileup.

Lourdes on November 4, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Just saw a guy on Fox talking about Ohio. Said the Cleveland area, and a big part of Cuyahoga Cty. has been WITHOUT POWER UNTIL YESTERDAY!!! Oh, my. Looks like they didn’t see that fantastic bomber jacket photo op the preezy did with that fat, useless fool in NJ. How will they know how awesome he is?

Rational Thought on November 4, 2012 at 9:55 AM

Greg is a paid campaign worker?

What a freakin loser.

SparkPlug on November 4, 2012 at 9:56 AM

The difference is Romney is not even doing ANY interviews. Soft or hardcore

loveofcountry on November 4, 2012 at 8:54 AM

Yes! Isn’t it great that we have an intelligent candidate? What the heck good would it do to be interviewed by an Obama supporter?

BTW, I think the misery index on the east coast caused by the recent storm will generate some votes for Romney that may not have been cast otherwise.

Vince on November 4, 2012 at 9:56 AM

I a walk on the beach and kissing Chris Christie (what’s with all these Chrissys falling heads over heels for Obama anyway?) is enough to flip the outcome of a presidential election then this country is in deeper trouble than I thought.

neuquenguy on November 4, 2012 at 9:56 AM

Or they are thinking..”What the fluke? This stuff used to derail them, now they are just playing with us like a cat batting around a toy mouse.”

Mitsouko on November 4, 2012 at 9:42 AM

…uh no!…they think you’re fondling its testicles!

KOOLAID2 on November 4, 2012 at 9:56 AM

Hey Stephanie, I’m baaaack!

In New York’s Public Housing, Fear Creeps In With the Dark

‘Anarchy in Queens’…

Hurricane Sandy has subsided, but some New Yorkers still screaming for help

btw Steffie, that last link is from the NY Daily News. You know, the paper that endorsed Romney today.

Flora Duh on November 4, 2012 at 9:57 AM

RE: Obama had 25,000 at rally.

The rally was in Virginia, almost pizza-delivery distance from D.C.

Just try to explain to me how most of those 25,000 weren’t just spillover from the D.C. manure bank.

Glenn Jericho on November 4, 2012 at 9:50 AM

25,000 government employees and worthless welfare takers show up for the king of all government give-a-ways and government hiring.
What a surprise!

bgibbs1000 on November 4, 2012 at 9:57 AM

StoneKrab on November 4, 2012 at 9:43 AM

Ha! Sir. Ha!

Bmore on November 4, 2012 at 9:58 AM

I go by what the polls tell me.

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 9:51 AM

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Only one poll matters and it occurs on November 6, all day long. Liberals love to declare victory preemptively and they substitute analysis for results. This is the liberal version of premature adjudication.
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If Romney loses you will be here crowing about it and if he wins you won’t show up at all (unless you appear as your “conservative” sock puppet).

ExpressoBold on November 4, 2012 at 9:58 AM

But, Gumby is not a Romney Operative. They found out over at Ace, that he is a paid campaign worker for Obama.

kingsjester on November 4, 2012 at 9:52 AM

LOL, nobody found out anything. Do you know how many people post as “Greg” over there?

I’ve already said the mods can check my IP and they will find I’m in WI, which is what I’ve always said.

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 9:59 AM

I said a few days ago that I had heard about some internals in WI that showed Romney had a 1 pt lead immediately before the hurricane and that changed to a 2 pt Obama lead after his walk on the beach and Christie lovefest. WI had been quiet and I didn’t think there was much of a shot, but it looks like Romney would have had a fighting chance if the Frankenstorm hadn’t occurred.

I go by what the polls tell me.

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 9:51 AM

No you did not.

You instantly claimed the storm ended the race and that indies would flip in droves. If they did, the BG poll would show Obama near 50 with indies. But they didn’t. Of the remaining indies, they still split.

That was the point of the BG piece. But, it doesn’t fit your spin.

Because you’re a pure liar.

You keep pounding the same points and ignore contradictory evidence.

You’re not here to debate or engage.

ED/AP

Ban this clown.

Time for everyone to call for it.

budfox on November 4, 2012 at 10:00 AM

Only one poll matters and it occurs on November 6,

And the Loser’s Lament makes an appearance on this Sunday morning!

Heard it so much in 96, heard it so much in 08 and hearing it again in 2012.

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 10:00 AM

Yes! Isn’t it great that we have an intelligent candidate? What the heck good would it do to be interviewed by an Obama supporter?

BTW, I think the misery index on the east coast caused by the recent storm will generate some votes for Romney that may not have been cast otherwise.

Vince on November 4, 2012 at 9:56 AM

Yup. The sharia media is just DYING for a manufactured Romney gaffe to spend all day Monday on — far better than spending it noting that indies are surging to Romney. He isn’t going to give them one. Smart man. Won’t play by their corrupt rules, and they whine, whine, whine.

Rational Thought on November 4, 2012 at 10:00 AM

if people were “furious and growing more disgusted with the govt by the hour” then you would see movement to Romney and there is none.

DON’T BE GULLIBLE. You/we only know about conditions THAT ARE BEING REPORTED. And by now, we should all be convinced that the media, Leftmedia, is massively engaged in a propaganda campaign to wax-false and poetic about the Left.

It’s also (NY), to state the obvious, a Left environment, politically, so they’re, therefore and thereby, people by majority who are “dependent” by choice — they’ve opted to rely on government or at least allow government controls over their lives and others that tip the perspectives of self-reliance and criticism of government.

So I wouldn’t put too much stock in what Leftmedia is reporting about citizen criticism of the government or lack thereof as to recovery from Sandy. If there’s anything good to come from the damages done by Sandy, it’ll be that people affected WAKE UP and stop their surrender to their “let government do it” perspectives.

Lourdes on November 4, 2012 at 10:01 AM

I go by what the pollse tells me….and you make me hard!

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 9:51 AM

KOOLAID2 on November 4, 2012 at 10:02 AM

You instantly claimed the storm ended the race and that indies would flip in droves

Rasmussen went from Romney +2 to a tie.

ABC/Wash Post went from Romney +3 to a tie (and Obama +1 on a day).

Deny it all you want, but there was a hurricane bounce for Obama.

Romney is in worse shape in every single poll post hurricane.

Get a clue, pal.

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Some polls are wrong, but not all of them.

StoneKrab on November 4, 2012 at 10:03 AM

I said a few days ago that I had heard about some internals in WI that showed Romney had a 1 pt lead immediately before the hurricane and that changed to a 2 pt Obama lead after his walk on the beach and Christie lovefest. WI had been quiet and I didn’t think there was much of a shot, but it looks like Romney would have had a fighting chance if the Frankenstorm hadn’t occurred.

I go by what the polls tell me.

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 9:51 AM

And I asked you to provide the name of the WI radio show host (or “someone close to them”) you supposedly got those from, along with the call letters of their station, their number on the dial, the hours their show is on, and their producer’s name(s), and you–as you always seem to do–completely avoided providing any detail.

If you live in Wisconsin like you claim, you’d have absolutely no problem providing any of that detail.

You sound more like a FIB with every post than you do a Cheesehead.

Phoenix7 on November 4, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Heard it so much in 96, heard it so much in 08 and hearing it again in 2012.

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 10:00 AM

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You heard it in 2010 and in 2004 and in 2000 but you forgot you heard it, loser. Try remembering and taste the bitter tears of wasted effort.

ExpressoBold on November 4, 2012 at 10:03 AM

“it only matters politically if it’s seen enough”

Yea, no one saw cattle cars in Germany. Or smelled anything odd. It’s what leftist do. Not see.

wolly4321 on November 4, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Steffie doesn’t really care if Obama is re-elected, she’s just a paid hack. She’ll find some other complete moron to hire her the next time around, sort of like a female Bob Shrum. The Democrats just keep recycling the same idiots over and over again.

BTW, if you look at the available polling data for the Battleground poll, their likely voter screen looks like it’s pretty much nonexistent, so the poll is really just a registered voter poll, and we all know how useful those are.

eyedoc on November 4, 2012 at 10:03 AM

I think the misery index on the east coast caused by the recent storm will generate some votes for Romney that may not have been cast otherwise.

Vince on November 4, 2012 at 9:56 AM

Wellll, Romney DID show up right away with the goods while Obama sent his Big Sis to blow in and blow out as quickly as possible.

Actions speak louder than words…

Lourdes on November 4, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Looks like Greg hates being called Greg.

SparkPlug on November 4, 2012 at 10:03 AM

The media is really hammering their disinformation campaign today on the Sunday shows. ABC is particularly nauseating.

Punchenko on November 4, 2012 at 10:03 AM

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 9:59 AM

How can multiple people post as “Greg”? And, I’m sure OFA has Campaign Workers in several states.

kingsjester on November 4, 2012 at 10:04 AM

Thank you.

Flora Duh on November 4, 2012 at 9:02 AM

Prayers for your sister, the storm victims, and this country. Please keep us updated on her condition.

Night Owl on November 4, 2012 at 10:04 AM

Wilson in 1916?

matthew8787 on November 4, 2012 at 9:49 AM

But he did win the popular vote & the EC.

If Obama were to lose the popular vote, he’d be the first POTUS to win a second term with fewer votes than the did to win election to his first term and the first POTUS that I could find that lost the popular vote in his second election.

Resist We Much on November 4, 2012 at 10:04 AM

I go by what the polls tell me.

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 9:51 AM

You just dismissed the movement in PA. In this very thread.

So that’s not a true statement, either.

budfox on November 4, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Prayers for your sister, the storm victims, and this country. Please keep us updated on her condition.

Night Owl on November 4, 2012 at 10:04 AM

Thank you, will do.

Flora Duh on November 4, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Boom! Benghazi right out the gate from Wallace

Chewy the Lab on November 4, 2012 at 10:06 AM

You just dismissed the movement in PA. In this very thread.

So that’s not a true statement, either.

budfox on November 4, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Michigan too – R up one.

Oh and the Rass poll – Romney is gaining again in indies according to numbers muncher.

gophergirl on November 4, 2012 at 10:06 AM

“it only matters politically if it’s seen enough”

Yea, no one saw cattle cars in Germany. Or smelled anything odd. It’s what leftist do. Not see.

wolly4321 on November 4, 2012 at 10:03 AM

THAT’S EXACTLY RIGHT. It’s the same as to Benghazi. The Left, media and Dems in office and out of it, are ALL maintaining this “I can’t hear you” nonsense about Benghazi, and actually are BLAMING Fox News and the Right for EVEN TALKING ABOUT IT. The Left claims “it doesn’t exist (as an issue, a problem, a concern, an outrage, a danger…” take your pick) as long as they DON’T TALK ABOUT IT. Leftmedia won’t report it, so, therefore, the Left claims “it doesn’t exist”.

Lourdes on November 4, 2012 at 10:07 AM

I a walk on the beach and kissing Chris Christie (what’s with all these Chrissys falling heads over heels for Obama anyway?) is enough to flip the outcome of a presidential election then this country is in deeper trouble than I thought.

neuquenguy on November 4, 2012 at 9:56 AM

Yes, that walk on the beach did flip the outcome and yes the country is in trouble.

You guys can be Pollyannas all you want, but the polls are telling the story. Just look at the pre VS post hurricane numbers.

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Neil King ‏@NKingofDC

Our last WSJ/NBC poll gives Obama the leanest edge, 48-47 among likely voters. But an incumbent at 48% has no cause for comfort.

Flora Duh on November 4, 2012 at 10:08 AM

said a few days ago that I had heard about some internals in WI that showed Romney had a 1 pt lead immediately before the hurricane and that changed to a 2 pt Obama lead after his walk on the beach and Christie lovefest. WI had been quiet and I didn’t think there was much of a shot, but it looks like Romney would have had a fighting chance if the Frankenstorm hadn’t occurred.

I go by what the polls tell me.

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 9:51 AM

Rasmussen: Wisconsin: Romney 49, Obama 49

Resist We Much on November 4, 2012 at 10:08 AM

I go by what the polls Axelrod tells me to say.

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 9:51 AM

bgibbs1000 on November 4, 2012 at 10:08 AM

I go by what the polls tell me.

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 9:51 AM

You just dismissed the movement in PA. In this very thread.

So that’s not a true statement, either.

budfox on November 4, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Go to the RCP average and you’ll see what’s going to happen in PA. If Ras or Q validated this result, then something is going on.

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 10:08 AM

I remember that Gumby day:

Heard from a little birdie that Rasmussen’s Iowa poll will show that newspaper endorsements mean nothing.

Another day, another rotten battleground state poll for poor hapless Mitt.

gumbyandpokey on November 1, 2012 at 11:15 AM

NumbersMuncher ‏@NumbersMuncher

Rasmussen has Romney up 1 in Iowa, 49-48. Was tied @ 48% last week.

Resist We Much on November 4, 2012 at 10:09 AM

Wallace is hammering axlegrease on Benghazi..

wolly4321 on November 4, 2012 at 10:09 AM

Deny it all you want, but there was a hurricane bounce for Obama.

Romney is in worse shape in every single poll post hurricane.

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Not the point.

You never have once said Romney has had a shot.

Never.

Now, you’re trying to claim objectivity, when you don’t have it in the least.

ban this clown

budfox on November 4, 2012 at 10:09 AM

You guys can be Pollyannas all you want, but the polls are telling the story. Just look at the pre VS post hurricane numbers.

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 10:07 AM

If we’re such “Pollyannas”, gumby, whattheheck are you doing here? I can’t believe you’re here out of concern and caring. Maybe you should get yourself a big whiteboard and just write poll hope and change fantasies all over it. Keep it special. Save it from all this “Pollyanna” lack of guile.

Lourdes on November 4, 2012 at 10:10 AM

O/T how do you run out of water in a city that getting ready to host a marathon?

Cindy Munford on November 4, 2012 at 10:11 AM

Wallace is hammering axlegrease on Benghazi..

wolly4321 on November 4, 2012 at 10:09 AM

THIS I will watch. Have to wait here in PST for the broadcast hour, but I will watch Wallace.

Lourdes on November 4, 2012 at 10:11 AM

If Obama wins on Tuesday, it will be confirmation that the Americam electorate has finally reached venezuela’s level of sophistication. We know that the media is already there.

neuquenguy on November 4, 2012 at 10:12 AM

KOOLAID2 on November 4, 2012 at 10:02 AM

Had to get in a tickle yourself I see. ;-)

Flora Duh on November 4, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Neil King ‏@NKingofDC

Our last WSJ/NBC poll gives Obama the leanest edge, 48-47 among likely voters. But an incumbent at 48% has no cause for comfort.

Flora Duh on November 4, 2012 at 10:08 AM

You would much rather be ahead a point in a close race than behind a point.

It will be a 1-2 pt Obama win nationally.

And the bump Obama got from the hurricane made the difference.

BTW, still not a single national poll has Romney in the lead.

I TOLD YOU SO.

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Go to the RCP average and you’ll see what’s going to happen in PA. If Ras or Q validated this result, then something is going on.

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 10:08 AM

Q means nothing, and Ras has never been known for his state polls. But the poll from Jim Lee’s group this morning carries a lot of weight because he is pretty accurate when it come to PA.

bgibbs1000 on November 4, 2012 at 10:13 AM

O/T how do you run out of water in a city that getting ready to host a marathon?

Cindy Munford on November 4, 2012 at 10:11 AM

People in Germany and France and Italy and Greece asked the same thing about champaigne, cheese and wine, not to mention other foodstuffs. Meanwhile, the Socialists had a grand ole glamorous place flowing in all the finest at their disposal.

Lourdes on November 4, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Go to the RCP average and you’ll see what’s going to happen in PA. If Ras or Q validated this result, then something is going on.

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 10:08 AM

Again

Not the point.

You instantly dimiss any poll that doesn’t fit your narrative.

If there’s no movement, why is Clinton going to PA for four events?

You can’t claim on the backend, that you “saw some kind of movement”.

You either acknowledge before or during. There is no after.

You expected Obama to have a lead in every poll today.

Not to be tied.

Because if Momentum was really with him, why did it stop?

Why isn’t he at 50%?

budfox on November 4, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Boom! Benghazi right out the gate from Wallace

Chewy the Lab on November 4, 2012 at 10:06 AM

On Fox News Sunday, November 4, 2012, when Chris Wallace brings up the topic of Libya, David Axelrod laughs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXpmtPfvi6A&feature=player_embedded

500 Military Commanders Endorse Romney

500 generals and admirals have endorsed Mitt Romney. These are military commanders who have had no previous involvement with Romney’s campaign.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/carolplattliebau/2012/11/04/500_military_commanders_endorse_romney

workingclass artist on November 4, 2012 at 10:15 AM

budfox on November 4, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Keep going! Keep going!

gophergirl on November 4, 2012 at 10:16 AM

You would much rather be ahead a point in a close race than behind a point.

It will be a 1-2 pt Obama win nationally.

And the bump Obama got from the hurricane made the difference.

BTW, still not a single national poll has Romney in the lead.

I TOLD YOU SO.

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Gallup isn’t polling and all the most recent polls show a tie. The NBC poll has their guy up only one in a poll that more likely has a huge dem oversample.

Propaganda isn’t your strong suit is it?

bgibbs1000 on November 4, 2012 at 10:16 AM

O/T how do you run out of water in a city that getting ready to host a marathon?

Cindy Munford on November 4, 2012 at 10:11 AM

Easy, elect Democrats.

SparkPlug on November 4, 2012 at 10:18 AM

workingclass artist on November 4, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Axelrod did quite a shuck and jibe!

Chewy the Lab on November 4, 2012 at 10:18 AM

You would much rather be ahead a point in a close race than behind a point.

gumbyandpokey on November 4, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Oh, now it’s close huh?

That means it could go either way.

When the F have you ever acknowledge that?

And the bump Obama got from the hurricane made the difference.

BTW, still not a single national poll has Romney in the lead.

I TOLD YOU SO.

Wait. Didn’t you use to dimiss Romney’s lead in Ras?

Didn’t you used to pull a Silver and point to state polls or RCP?

Why, yes. Yes you did.

budfox on November 4, 2012 at 10:18 AM

22044 on November 4, 2012 at 9:41 AM

The stupid is strong in this one, it is overpowering. It’s hard not to enter into a intellectual (term loosely applied) pissing (so uncouth) match when we have 99% of the water rights. Two comments in on the day and I think I have a water theme going.

Cindy Munford on November 4, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Benghazi, LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nobody cares about Benghazi.
gumbyandpokey on November 2, 2012 at 1:14 AM

novaculus on November 4, 2012 at 10:19 AM

The Trolls will be worse, today and tomorrow. They know that Obama has lost. They are like a clan of cavemen afraid of fire, or, in their cases, they’re afraid Mom is going to kick them out of the basement and make them find a…gasp…job.

Gumby, on the other hand, is a paid operative and needs to be banned immediately, as he was at Ace’s and Free Republic.

kingsjester on November 4, 2012 at 9:46 AM
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Wow great post! Its almost over for the sumthin’ for nuttin’ gang!

rodguy911 on November 4, 2012 at 10:19 AM

SparkPlug on November 4, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Ah!

Cindy Munford on November 4, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Obama has alienated people in his own party.

He will lose. We know that.

SparkPlug on November 4, 2012 at 10:19 AM

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