NFL Week 9 open thread

posted at 12:16 pm on November 4, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Last week the Pittsburgh Steelers dominated RGIII and the Washington Redskins, raising their record to 4-3 and my hopes of a Super Bowl season.  Today they take on Washington’s division rival New York Giants, who have played dominating football of late themselves.  They’ll play in the Meadowlands, with the emotion of surviving Hurricane Sandy making the Giants emotional as well betting favorites in this game.  I’m still picking the Steelers, although I admit this is a faith-based decision.  Pittsburgh 20, Giants 16.

I had a good week in Week 8, going 5-1 for three weeks in a row to run my season record to 32-16.  Can I get a sweep today?

  • Cardinals at Packers – Arizona looked sharp to start the season, but they’ve gone dull ever since.  The Packers have stepped up their play since losing to Seattle in the game that all but demanded an end to the game-officials strike.  I don’t see either trend ending this week.  Green Bay over Arizona, 35-17.
  • Vikings at Seahawks – The Vikings don’t play well on the road, and Seattle plays tough at home; they haven’t lost a game there yet, and I don’t think the Vikes are the team to end that streak.  Seahawks edge Minnesota, 31-27.
  • Cowboys at Falcons – Dallas desperately needs a win to keep their season alive, but Atlanta looks too tough at home — or anywhere else, for that matter.  Atlanta won’t go 16-0, but they won’t be 7-1 either.  The line has the Falcons up by 4, but I think it won’t be that close.  Falcons 30, Dallas 20.
  • Eagles at Saints – This should be a really good Monday Night Football game, but only because both teams are looking pretty desperate.  Both have fallen far short of expectations, and both have a tremendous amount of pressure to start righting their collective ships.  New Orleans has deeper talent on both sides of the ball, though, and they’re playing at home.  I’m picking the Saints to win, 38-27.
  • Panthers at Redskins – Normally I wouldn’t pick this game, but we’re hearing once again about the “Redskins Rule.”   “Since 1940 — ever since the Redskins moved to D.C. — the team’s outcome in their final game before the presidential election has usually determined which party would win the White House all but one time,” the Washington Post explains.  “Every time the Redskins win on their game before the election, the incumbent party wins the presidential vote. If the Redskins lose, the non-incumbent wins.” Soooooooo … go Panthers, 29-17 over the Redskins.

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Apparently you weren’t watching. They found three extra Redskins field goals in the trunk of a car in the FedEx Field parking lot. SO you neanderthals were wrong again! —Pokey McGumbo

PetecminMd on November 4, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Whadda you got? Romnesia? The ESPN people showed that the Panthers kicked Redskin dupa, Chicagoland style. Your dream and our nightmare are over. We’ll see you libtards in another 30 years.

timberline on November 4, 2012 at 4:24 PM

21-13 Panthers win…Goodbye 0bama, don’t let the door hit you in your ass on the way out.

Ryan Anthony on November 4, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Actually the whole thing is a good analogue for the election. All the “experts” said that Washington should pull it out narrowly (-3 or -4 in most sportsbooks). Carolina was 1-6, and needed to march into Washington’s home turf and win. Once the game really started Carolina took control and opened up to a decent lead that wasn’t really recognized. Toward the end, there was a bit of stalling that got some fans worried that Washington could pull it out after all, but in the end it was a solid Carolina win.

To use your words with Political spin:

Actually the whole thing is a good analogue for the election. All the “experts” said that Obama should pull it out narrowly (-3 or -4 in most sportsbooks). Romney was 1-6, and needed to march into Washington’s home turf and win. Once the game really started Romney took control and opened up to a decent lead that wasn’t really recognized. Toward the end, there was a bit of stalling that got some fans worried that Obama could pull it out after all, but in the end it was a solid Romney win.

timberline on November 4, 2012 at 4:28 PM

Go Steelers!

Night Owl on November 4, 2012 at 4:32 PM

As a die-hard Redskins fan who bleeds burgundy & gold, I had to go against my team this week with a must win game on the line. It damn near killed me but my country comes before my beloved team.

Carolina 21 Redskins 13

You’re Welcome

Texene on November 4, 2012 at 4:42 PM

Hate to throw cold water on the proceedings, but this is just one of those weird coincidences. Patterns exist until they don’t. Admit it, if the Redskins had won, we would all be saying “It’s who votes that will determine the winner, not the outcome of some football game.”

Still, it gives us something to wave in the trolls’ faces for the rest of the afternoon.

JimLennon on November 4, 2012 at 4:54 PM

JimLennon on November 4, 2012 at 4:54 PM

Bah, killjoy. Of course it doesn’t matter. Comparative early/absentee vote numbers in OH, FL, IA, VA, PA matter. Party ID polls matter. The huge crowds at our rallies and relative lack thereof on their side matter.

It’s a great sign though. I don’t know if there’s some weird correlation with it going 18/19 (or 19/19 with the “popular vote” modification), but if it undoes the air of inevitability for just 2,000 football fans in Philadelphia then it’s good enough for me. And it’s certainly better than having the media trumpet the reverse as a sign of an Obama victory, which as biased as they’ve been this cycle they would.

Gingotts on November 4, 2012 at 5:00 PM

Gingotts on November 4, 2012 at 5:00 PM

Most of my lib FB friends were trumpeting the Redskins Rule thing all day yesterday and this morning. Living near DC, most of them were just giddy as they expected a Skins win (I didn’t, I’m a die-hard Giants guy) and were going on and on about how great Griffin and Obama are.

By the middle of the third quarter, most of them were silent. No more “Go Skins! Go Obama!” posts. Most of them were silent, except for a depressed few. One even said she felt like she was watching all of her hopes and dreams fade away…

The whole thing is silly. But if it depresses the Obama voters I think it’s a good thing.

PetecminMd on November 4, 2012 at 5:09 PM

By the middle of the third quarter, most of them were silent. No more “Go Skins! Go Obama!” posts. Most of them were silent, except for a depressed few. One even said she felt like she was watching all of her hopes and dreams fade away…

The whole thing is silly. But if it depresses the Obama voters I think it’s a good thing.

PetecminMd on November 4, 2012 at 5:09 PM

Self fulfilling prophecy… I like that.

Gingotts on November 4, 2012 at 5:12 PM

JimLennon on November 4, 2012 at 4:54 PM

Aren’t we allowed to have fun? Besides, gumdrop predicted the Redskins would win. That probably guaranteed a Carolina win right there.

NotCoach on November 4, 2012 at 5:18 PM

Now the Redskins nation just needs a couple things in return for our team’s self-sacrificial defeat for the good of the country.

1) We need the Giants, the Cowboys and the Eagles to all lose this week which is at least probable given that the Giants play the Stillers, the Cowboys are wildly erratic and the Eagles just plain stink.

2) We need for the Redskins rule to not let us down now. If we can return from the bye with our standing relative to our division opponents unchanged and a new president on the way, it will have been massively worth it for our team to roll over and play dead against Carolina. We’ll get the next one for sure.

:-)

Texene on November 4, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Wow, the Colts are BACK! Monster win over Miami. Andrew Luck sets a record for the greatest performance by a rookie QB in NFL history. 8-5 Look out NFL.

tommyboy on November 4, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Two bows on that gift there for you Giants.

CW on November 4, 2012 at 5:23 PM

BAD OMEN FOR OBAMA — REDSKINS LOSE AT HOME…

ted c on November 4, 2012 at 5:26 PM

Aren’t we allowed to have fun? Besides, gumdrop predicted the Redskins would win. That probably guaranteed a Carolina win right there.

NotCoach on November 4, 2012 at 5:18 PM

Didn’t know that… Damn. I’d have put money on the Panthers then. I always hope it’ll start making sports calls so I can have some good locks to pound. It’s the one thing that could make me put away my keys and stop calling for it to go.

And I’m only half kidding there… Redskins Rule doesn’t have nearly as long and storied tradition as that of failed Gumballs predictions.

Gingotts on November 4, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Bwhahaha. TD Giants. I’m sure they’ll take all the gifts they can get. Take that stillers.

tommyboy on November 4, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Giants make sure to make a donation to the NFL referees retirement fund. Embarrassing.

CW on November 4, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Bwhahaha. TD Giants. I’m sure they’ll take all the gifts they can get. Take that stillers.

tommyboy on November 4, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Yeh they will ….the fix is in. Heck they couldn’t even call the obvious illegal block down field.

Fixed.

CW on November 4, 2012 at 5:31 PM

Eh. 12:04. Probably couldn’t have gotten the wager in on time… FFS Gumby next time make yourself useful and make your lead balloon predictions for somebody to capitalize off of it.

Gingotts on November 4, 2012 at 5:43 PM

As a Carolina fan AND a Romney supporter, I thank the Redskins for not trying TOO hard today. Your sacrifice for the good of the Panthers and of the country will not go unremembered.

clayj on November 4, 2012 at 6:02 PM

“Every time the Redskins win on their game before the election, the incumbent party wins the presidential vote. If the Redskins lose, the non-incumbent wins.” Soooooooo … go Panthers, 29-17 over the Redskins.

The bad news, sort of, is that the 3-5 Skins are 1-2 at home and the 1-6 Panthers are 0-3 on the road. The good news, sort of, is that the Panthers are from a red state and the Skins are from bluer than blue, and Romney is going to win (by 315-330 EVs), which will pull the Panthers through to a comfortable win, 30-24.

TXUS on November 4, 2012 at 12:41 PM

First, you’re welcome. Second, my prediction of a 6 point Panthers victory was a little less than the final spread of 8 (21-13), so perhaps Romney’s EC win might also be underestimated. Revised Romney EVs: 320-335.

Let’s Roll!

TXUS on November 4, 2012 at 6:03 PM

If you added the real current unemployment, the national debt in trillions and divided by the number of major MSM networks and subtracted one third each for CNN, NPR and MSNBC you have the points the Redskins were doomed to lose by.

Divide that by two for voter fraud and you have Romney’s margin of victory.

IlikedAUH2O on November 4, 2012 at 6:13 PM

Panthers held on for the win.

bayview on November 4, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Somewhere in WI, a claymation figurine is kicking his cat.

hawkdriver on November 4, 2012 at 6:13 PM

obviously mis interepted redskin rule, we lose obama is done ;))

smitty41 on November 4, 2012 at 6:14 PM

Somewhere in WI, a claymation figurine is kicking his cat.

hawkdriver on November 4, 2012 at 6:13 PM

Ohhh, nooooh, Mr. Bill.

TXUS on November 4, 2012 at 6:20 PM

I hope you non-Redskin fans appreciate how I suffer for you…..

Just kidding, I suffer almost every week anyway.

Cindy Munford on November 4, 2012 at 6:21 PM

I hope you non-Redskin fans appreciate how I suffer for you…..

Just kidding, I suffer almost every week anyway.

Cindy Munford on November 4, 2012 at 6:21 PM

A true patriot indeed, and not of the “New England” variety! Thank you for suffering through this week, anyway.

TXUS on November 4, 2012 at 6:46 PM

great strike by Big Ben and great catch by Mike Wallace. They have time to overcome the bad calls of the first half.

Angineer on November 4, 2012 at 6:53 PM

WTF Pittsburgh? A fake field goal instead of going for the tie?

Brat on November 4, 2012 at 7:03 PM

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