Of course there’s no voter fraud to worry about

posted at 5:31 pm on November 3, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

Early voting is already going on and for those states without it, expect a mad rush on Tuesday. But according to my friends who insist that efforts to reform voting laws are foolish “because voter fraud doesn’t happen,” there is absolutely no need to worry. Everything is under control. The American people wouldn’t stoop to such scurrilous tactics. Well, somebody needs to hop on a plane and fly out to Vegas and tell the cops that.

Las Vegas Woman Arrested After Trying To Vote Twice

CARSON CITY, Nev. (AP) — FBI agents arrested a woman Friday in Las Vegas on charges that she tried to vote twice in the presidential election, Secretary of State Ross Miller said.

A criminal complaint accuses Roxanne Rubin of casting a ballot at an early voting location in Henderson on Oct. 29, then trying to vote again at a polling site in Las Vegas on the same day.

Miller said poll workers questioned Rubin when they found her name in a database that showed she had already cast a ballot, but she denied having voted and insisted she be allowed to vote.

If the allegations are proven, this woman wasn’t some confused senior citizen who sent in an absentee ballot early then forgot about it and went down to try to vote in person. Both of these events took place on the same day. It seems to be a clear cut attempt to violate election law.

Now here comes the uncomfortable part – for both sides, as you will see – of this story. The woman in question was a Republican. And she was trying this in a state where several races are still up for grabs. Yes, I know… we don’t like to hear about one of our own pulling a stunt like this, but the story must be even worse for Democrats this weekend. I mean, think about it. They must be champing at the bit to scream and point their fingers and say, “Look! The Rethuglicans are cheating!” But if they do that, then they have to admit that voter fraud happens and steps need to be taken to thwart it.

Of course, this is a story which only involves one person’s vote. What about cases where it’s more institutional and affects lots of votes? Doesn’t happen, you say? Well how about this one from the also wavering state of Colorado?

Machines switched Romney votes to Obama

The Colorado Secretary of State’s Office is investigating after some Pueblo voters say voting machines switched their pick from Mitt Romney to Barack Obama.

The Pueblo County Republican Party said they’ve heard of more than a dozen reports of the problem.

One voter, who didn’t want to use her name, told KRDO Newschannel 13 that when she hit the touchscreen for Romney, a check mark appeared next to Obama’s name. She said she asked for help to fix the problem, but still feels unsure about her vote.

“I wonder where my vote really counted,” she said.

You’re right to wonder, madam. We all should. The system is about as secure as a Swiss Cheese, and every time we ask about making it more secure, we’re accused of disenfranchising, racism, hating puppies and all manner of things. It’s simply amazing.

Fortunately, in the Vegas case, the system detected it immediately. But does every state have such safeguards in place? I’m asking because I honestly don’t know and I very much doubt it. And as to the voting machines in Colorado, I’m on board with the woman they interviewed. The touch screen machines we use in NY now don’t even show you the selections you made and give you a chance to review them before finalizing. I have about as much faith that my vote is being correctly recorded as I do in Abba releasing a comeback album that sells 50 million. They system, both in terms of voting laws and the machines we use for it, is screaming out to be fixed and the legitimacy of our elections is already in question.


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Personally, I’m more ready to believe that a Democrat voted in her place rather than she intentionally tried to vote twice.

Skywise on November 3, 2012 at 5:34 PM

Interesting that the only arrest we hear of is of a Republican, while the impression is that the exstence is mostly Democrat. Think there is political bias at enforcement attempts?

talkingpoints on November 3, 2012 at 5:35 PM

It never happens. Ask Brayam.

The last time that turd tried to float that meme he was inundated with proof that fraud is easily found. Weirdly he said nothing else and ran away like a frightened little sissy.

CW on November 3, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Political organizer from New Paltz guilty of illegal voting
By Alexa James
Times Herald-Record
Posted: April 30, 2009 – 2:00 AM
NEW PALTZ — Conspicuous political mobilizer Amy Little of New Paltz pleaded guilty Tuesday to voting illegally in Ohio during the presidential election campaign.
During the race, Little worked for an independent get-out-the-vote group called Vote Today Ohio. While touting Democratic candidate Barack Obama in the battleground state, she also registered to vote there.
Little, 50, claimed she’d moved from her home in New Paltz to a place in Columbus, near Ohio State University. Her new address doubled as headquarters for Vote Today Ohio. Other transplants in the group also used that location to register to vote in Ohio.

Anyone want more?

CW on November 3, 2012 at 5:38 PM

Voter fraud matters not if the margin of victory exceeds the margin of fraud. It’s always a bad thing but not always something to be feared.

platypus on November 3, 2012 at 5:38 PM

Cannot resist:

http://www.rnla.org/votefraud.asp

CW on November 3, 2012 at 5:38 PM

How do we know someones else voted ‘for her’ without her knowledge? I would like to see follow up on this story. If she is guilty, throw the book at her but if another person voted in her place ‘stealing her vote’ throw the book at them. Voter ID would solve a lot of this, there is always a way to cheat but can we just make it harder and make those who get caught doing it pay a higher price?

IowaWoman on November 3, 2012 at 5:41 PM

Biometric ID cards, used for voter registration as well as ID, might be a prudent start. A simple, quick, painless retinal scan when the card is issued, and a second scan at the polling place to confirm, or deny, the identity of the person submitting the card matched the can on record, would go a long way toward eliminating voter fraud.

The touch screen machines present several issues. Simple malfunction,deliberately tampering by calibration, etc. Perhaps a paper ballot, issued at the polling place, then run though a scantron machine to record the votes, and kept as a hard copy record of the vote might be an effective way to counter tampering and/or malfunctioning equipment. In the event a failure in the system was detected, a manual recount could be performed.

thatsafactjack on November 3, 2012 at 5:42 PM

I have a friend that makes the argument that it is wasteful for the government to spend the extra money enforcing the ID laws. I suppose in the instances of giving some people those free IDs. Fraud isn’t enough of a problem to spend the money on it. He is a liberal though…

Donald Draper on November 3, 2012 at 5:45 PM

Why is the FBI involved? She voted twice in the same state, right?

NotCoach on November 3, 2012 at 5:46 PM

matched the can on record

Sorry…matched the SCAN on record.

thatsafactjack on November 3, 2012 at 5:46 PM

The woman in question was a Republican.

Yeah, Colin Powell is a Republican too….just saying.

Alabama Infidel on November 3, 2012 at 5:47 PM

I stood with local repubs in front of our voting place and they were telling me

1) a minority voter attempted to vote 2X
2) they saw someone being registered to vote same day (not allowed in this state)
3) extra ballot printing machines came in the backdoor and the head of the voting place told the R monitors there were no extra machines on premises.
4)same as mentioned, our vote readers DO NOT SHOW the vote being registered as it gets counted so there is no verification in real time.

All of this was reported to Romney headquarters in the state and that FL RNC.

CoffeeLover on November 3, 2012 at 5:48 PM

I don’t care what her party affiliation is, she needs to do jail time. Set an example.

iurockhead on November 3, 2012 at 5:48 PM

I like paper trails, in Iowa a machine tabulates the votes but votes are on paper and kept in case a recount is necessary. Just as fast as ‘touch machines’ but a record is kept of the vote.

IowaWoman on November 3, 2012 at 5:48 PM

What makes anyone think the Republican woman voted twice?

If anything, a cheating democrat impersonated her and voted for the Big O. Think about it. It’s more effective than voting for the dead. Rather than just providing +1 for the communists, it actually adds one vote for the commies, subtracts one from the U.S. patriots and gets a patriot arrested.

Voting science advances! /s

ROCnPhilly on November 3, 2012 at 5:48 PM

Why is the FBI involved? She voted twice in the same state, right?

NotCoach on November 3, 2012 at 5:46 PM

Federal law, maybe?

iurockhead on November 3, 2012 at 5:49 PM

The woman in question was a Republican.

She is a registered Republican. Assume nothing until more facts are known. Regardless, she deserves whatever she has coming to her.

NotCoach on November 3, 2012 at 5:49 PM

Federal law, maybe?

iurockhead on November 3, 2012 at 5:49 PM

The biggest reason why we are losing our liberty. We allow the federal government to enforce laws even when lawbreakers aren’t crossing state lines. We don’t need a federal law for a problem that stays within one state.

NotCoach on November 3, 2012 at 5:51 PM

I wonder which precinct was actually hers? The first or the second?

ROCnPhilly on November 3, 2012 at 5:52 PM

It never happens. Ask Brayam.

The last time that turd tried to float that meme he was inundated with proof that fraud is easily found. Weirdly he said nothing else and ran away like a frightened little sissy.

CW on November 3, 2012 at 5:35 PM

…you meant ‘galloped’…didn’t you?

KOOLAID2 on November 3, 2012 at 5:52 PM

The woman in question was a Republican.

and I’m sure she voted for Obama , both the times.

burrata on November 3, 2012 at 5:52 PM

I hate it when I type “R” on my keyboard and an “O” appears in my document. My keyboard needs to be “recalibrated” I guess.

/

nitzsche on November 3, 2012 at 5:52 PM

I wonder if you can take your phone in with you to vote. I’d want the switching vote on record. As for Ms. Rubin, if found guilty, go directly to jail, do not pass go and do not collect $200.

Cindy Munford on November 3, 2012 at 5:53 PM

I wonder if you can take your phone in with you to vote. I’d want the switching vote on record. As for Ms. Rubin, if found guilty, go directly to jail, do not pass go and do not collect $200.

Cindy Munford on November 3, 2012 at 5:53 PM

Every state is different, and the location of your precinct matters too possibly. Taking my phone with me to vote is not a problem where I live. However, if a precinct happened to be in a courthouse I might have problems. Courthouses in Michigan don’t allow phones that can take pictures.

NotCoach on November 3, 2012 at 5:55 PM

O/T: we went to see Romney in Dubuque today — packed! A nice and orderly crowd of all ages. It was pretty neat to stand thirty feet from the man who should become our next president. : ). We are here visiting the Middle Scot and just decided to drive over–electric rally!

herm2416 on November 3, 2012 at 5:57 PM

thatsafactjack I agree with you but can you see the louder screaming since they are already yelling over the voter ID measures these states are trying to enact?

The touch screen machines present several issues. Simple malfunction,deliberately tampering by calibration, etc. Perhaps a paper ballot, issued at the polling place, then run though a scantron machine to record the votes, and kept as a hard copy record of the vote might be an effective way to counter tampering and/or malfunctioning equipment. In the event a failure in the system was detected, a manual recount could be performed.

I guess that is what we have, however, in talking with the Poll workers they tell me they saw a blatant bias towards them inside the voting room. Restrictions in movement, lying about equipment, etc.

Sadly, after watching this in my own local area, I can only imagine what goes on throughout the country.

CoffeeLover on November 3, 2012 at 5:57 PM

Here you go. Ohio Voter Fraud.

Fallon on November 3, 2012 at 5:58 PM

She is a registered Republican. Assume nothing until more facts are known. Regardless, she deserves whatever she has coming to her.

NotCoach on November 3, 2012 at 5:49 PM

According to Wikipedia Nevada does not have an open primary. So it is certainly not beyond the realm of possibility that a liberal voter motivated to vote twice would also be motivated to register as a Republican since Obama was unchallenged.

NotCoach on November 3, 2012 at 5:59 PM

NotCoach on November 3, 2012 at 5:55 PM

That makes sense. I will be voting on Tuesday at a local church (OH NOES) but I don’t think we have a touch screen, we actually had ballots. But if they have “updated” I will be ready.

Cindy Munford on November 3, 2012 at 6:01 PM

OT- but Pitt is up 17-6 on Notre Dame. Holy smokes.

CW on November 3, 2012 at 6:01 PM

Outside our place there was signs telling everyone to shut off the phones while in the voting room. But you could take it in with you.

When one of the R monitors wanted to take a picture of what she thought was something wrong….the Voting Place Head told her if she did, she’d be escorted out of the building.

As I heard the story, I thought the monitor should have called her on it.

If people are not challenged, fraud will continue and just get worse.

CoffeeLover on November 3, 2012 at 6:01 PM

OT:

http://www.flavorwire.com/343233/john-cusack-is-developing-a-biopic-about-rush-limbaugh

The movie, which has a working title of Rush, is being produced by Cusack’s production company New Crime Productions, and would star Cusack in the title role.

tom daschle concerned on November 3, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Donald Draper, your dumb liberal friend sounds like the unserious people who were in charge of protecting our men in Benghazi.

Anti-Control on November 3, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Of course there’s no voter fraud to worry about

Voter Fraud? What voter fraud? — Richard J. Daley and Sons, Chicago Machine, Inc.

farsighted on November 3, 2012 at 6:05 PM

It’s not really fraud fraud if democrats do it.

VorDaj on November 3, 2012 at 6:06 PM

tom daschle concerned on November 3, 2012 at 6:03 PM

That’s depressing. At least we know no one will see it.

Kataklysmic on November 3, 2012 at 6:06 PM

Anybody figure out that maybe some DEMOCRAT voted in the name of the women in Nevada, figuring she wasn’t going to vote? Add to that the guy who BRAGGED ON FACEBOOK ABOUT VOTING 5 TIMES FOR OBAMA IN NORTH CAROLINA (and had worked on voter registration, so we know where he got the names).

michaelo on November 3, 2012 at 6:08 PM

do in Abba releasing a comeback album that sells 50 million. They system, both in terms of voting laws and the machines we use for it, is screaming out to be fixed and the legitimacy of our elections is already in question.

Hey, Jazz, leave Abba alone, I am not even convinced they are all alive…probably not. But I agree about the voter fraud and about how vulnerable we are on that front. Vulnerability that is exploited by tools like Rubin. She sounds like a Jewish leftist voter so consummed with passion for O that she wanted to bestow her precious vote on him twice. How patriotic of her, to exercise her voting right twice :)…am sure that will be de Dem spin on it :)..

jimver on November 3, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Ohio tries to trash legal provisional ballots

Hotair says nothing

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Ballot tampering in Oregon
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-city/index.ssf/2012/11/oregon_department_of_justice_i.html

Hotair says nothing

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Ohio Secretary of State accused of installing suspicious software on voting machines
http://thegrio.com/2012/11/02/ohio-secretary-of-state-accused-of-installing-suspicious-software-on-voting-machines/

Hotair says nothing

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King County Washington GOP laughinlgy vounteers to submit your ballot for you (and throw it into a dumpster), country tells voters to not trust these a**holes
“King County GOP is collecting ballots at multiple van drop locations in King County.

King County Elections strongly discourages giving possession or responsibility of your ballot to anyone other than USPS or official King County Elections drop locations. ”

http://www.kingcounty.gov/elections.aspx

Hotair says nothing

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Florida ‘Glitch’ Wipes Out 1000 Early Votes In Black Area
http://thegrio.com/2012/10/29/florida-early-vote-totals-revised-raising-questions/?fb_ref=http%3A%2F%2Fthegrio.com%2F

Hotair says nothing

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Virginia voter fraud probe into GOP firm may include up to 40 voter registration employees
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/11/03/virginia-voter-fraud-probe-into-gop-firm-may-include-up-to-40-voter-registration-employees/?utm_source=Raw+Story+Daily+Update&utm_campaign=bc39ad65c6-11_3_1211_3_2012&utm_medium=email

Hotair says nothing

Talk about all the a**holes breaking the law, and all irregularities or don’t bother.

Hotair loves to cherrypick and cherrypick and cherrypick.

Dave Rywall on November 3, 2012 at 6:10 PM

Anti-Control on November 3, 2012 at 6:03 PM

I agree. I tried to explain that conservatives are not being hypocritical to think that STATES have the prerogative to make sure that elections are honest.

Donald Draper on November 3, 2012 at 6:11 PM

Voter fraud matters not if the margin of victory exceeds the margin of fraud. It’s always a bad thing but not always something to be feared.

platypus on November 3, 2012 at 5:38 PM

.
Remember Al Franken?

listens2glenn on November 3, 2012 at 6:11 PM

michaelo on November 3, 2012 at 6:08 PM

The fact that an arrest was made makes me think they had sufficient reason to believe she tried to vote twice. If I showed up at a precinct and I were told I already voted I wouldn’t just walk away. I would demand a provisional ballot and file a complaint.

NotCoach on November 3, 2012 at 6:12 PM

OT- but Pitt is up 17-6 on Notre Dame. Holy smokes.

CW on November 3, 2012 at 6:01 PM

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“Holy smokes” is right. . : O
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My condolences to gophergal.

The BIG game is tonight . . . . .

listens2glenn on November 3, 2012 at 6:14 PM

Voter few fraud matters not if the margin of victory exceeds the margin of fraud. It’s always a bad thing but not always something to be feared.

platypus on November 3, 2012 at 5:38 PM

.
Remember Al Franken?

listens2glenn on November 3, 2012 at 6:11 PM

The 60th vote in the Senate for Obamacare? The one who lost handily on election day but was later declared the winner after several recounts? The one who won by a margin of a few hundred votes miraculously found in an automobile trunk, in a heavily Democratic district? That Al Franken?

A textbook example of how just a little vote fraud can change the fate of the nation.

farsighted on November 3, 2012 at 6:20 PM

These stories underscore a serious problem:

The “Electronic Voting Machines” were designed to facilitate COUNTING of the votes, but have also COMPROMISED the ability to AUDIT the votes. No design is truly secure: all are susceptible to classical “man-in-the-middle” attacks as well as various compromises involving hardware and/or software.

There should be a hard-copy receipt for every vote so that the voter can verify it, initial it, and put it in a lockbox to facilitate an audit. In any recount, the voter-verified paper record should be the standard: this would allow voting machine hacks to be exposed and neutralized. Since random verifications could be used to expose problems, the machines would still save counting time because a 100% verification would be unnecessary.

landlines on November 3, 2012 at 6:20 PM

BREAKING: NAACP Takes Over Houston Polling Station, Advocates for President Obama

HOUSTON, TX – Friday afternoon at an early polling place located at 6719 W. Montgomery Road in Houston, NAACP members were seen advocating for President Barack Obama according to volunteer poll watchers on location at the time.

According to Eve Rockford, a poll watcher trained by voter integrity group True the Vote, three NAACP members showed up to the 139 precinct location with 50 cases of bottled water and began handing bottles out to people standing in line. While wearing NAACP labeled clothing, members were “stirring the crowd” and talking to voters about flying to Ohio to promote President Barack Obama.

After watching what was occurring, Rockford approached Polling Supervisor Rose Cochran about what she was seeing.

“I went to the polling supervisor and let her know that it was not appropriate that they were in the building handing out water. She ignored me. I repeated my statement. She told me that she would handle it. She did nothing. I then went to the assistant supervisor and he stood up, walked over to another table and then sat down. I then walked into the waiting room and they were reloading another dolly with more cases of water,” Rockford said in a True the Vote incident report.

After handing out water and advocating for President Obama, the NAACP members started handpicking and moving people to the front of a long voting line inside the polling place according to the incident report. After multiple complaints from voters about the line cutting, Rockford received a phone call from downtown telling her to “stand down.”

“All of the sudden one of the clerks, Dayan Cohen, said that someone wanted to speak to me on the phone. It was someone from downtown. I got on the phone and she said she was from downtown and that I needed to stand down and that it was okay for the NAACP to be within 100 ft. and they could hand out water. I told her that the NAACP was inside the building, wearing the NAACP clothing and caps and were handing out water and moving people from the back of the lines to the front of the lines,” Rockford said.

At this point, NAACP members were instructed to turn their clothing inside out, which they refused to do and said they weren’t going to stop their actions inside the polling place. Their behavior and actions to move people to the front of the line continued for the rest of the evening. Texas State Representative Sylvester Turner, a former Texas NAACP leader, was also seen outside the building talking with voters.

“The NAACP basically ran this poll location and the judges did nothing about it,” Rockford said.

Flora Duh on November 3, 2012 at 6:21 PM

Voter Fraud? What voter fraud? — Richard J. Daley and Sons, Chicago Machine, Inc.

farsighted on November 3, 2012 at 6:05 PM

1960 comes to mind…

Del Dolemonte on November 3, 2012 at 6:23 PM

In Florida, Rob Wexler, former Congressman from Palm Beach County, led a group that got the touch-screen voting machines removed, in favor of optical scan machines. I always felt the Democrats weren’t comfortable with the touch-screen machines because they were harder to fix and didn’t offer enough “subjective” review for them during the recount. Apparently, the Democrats have found a way to rig them, but they haven’t perfected it yet.

I don’t trust the Democrats. They’ve done everything in their power to stop voters from being identified in order to vote. To me, there is only one reason for that and it’s to steal an election. When that goes all the way to the Attorney General, you know it’s a party effort and not just a couple of lowly thugs.

bflat879 on November 3, 2012 at 6:24 PM

Fortunately, in the Vegas case, the system detected it immediately.

The one and only reason she was ‘detected’ was because she used her real name and identifying info BOTH times — and that’s what flagged her within their central polling system database.

If she had been using a false identity after her legitimate identity in order to vote more than once — she may very well have never been caught.

Therein lies the rub.

A legitimate ‘security’ process inherent in probably EVERY state and county’s voter system/database that no one can legitimately argue against and that was built into their voting system as a feature and did not nor does not require special new legislation was what busted her solely because she used her real identity more than once.

The one and only lesson learned here is — don’t use your real identity to vote more than once, dummy.

Otherwise, it’s still — Game On.

FlatFoot on November 3, 2012 at 6:25 PM

Hotair says nothing

Talk about all the a**holes breaking the law, and all irregularities or don’t bother.

Hotair loves to cherrypick and cherrypick and cherrypick.

Dave Rywall on November 3, 2012 at 6:10 PM

From Jazz’s post above:

Now here comes the uncomfortable part – for both sides, as you will see – of this story. The woman in question was a Republican.

You’re not real bright are you?

So I guess we can put you in the :

There is a problem with voter fraud column.

Good to know brother.

CW on November 3, 2012 at 6:26 PM

Flora Duh on November 3, 2012 at 6:21 PM

Oh my. I bet the UN observers would be outraged had they been there for that.

Kataklysmic on November 3, 2012 at 6:26 PM

Hotair says nothing

Talk about all the a**holes breaking the law, and all irregularities or don’t bother.

Hotair loves to cherrypick and cherrypick and cherrypick.

Dave Rywall on November 3, 2012 at 6:10 PM

From Jazz’s post above:

Now here comes the uncomfortable part – for both sides, as you will see – of this story. The woman in question was a Republican.

You’re not real bright are you?

So I guess we can put you in the :

There is a problem with voter fraud column.

Good to know brother.

CW on November 3, 2012 at 6:26 PM
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You want a medla for objectivity for covering one Republican a**hole?

Sure.

Here you go.

Keep up the vigilance on both sides and I will respect you.

Dave Rywall on November 3, 2012 at 6:30 PM

Keep up the vigilance on both sides and I will respect you.

Dave Rywall on November 3, 2012 at 6:30 PM

I am pretty sure nobody around here is pining for your respect.

NotCoach on November 3, 2012 at 6:33 PM

Keep up the vigilance on both sides and I will respect you.

Dave Rywall on November 3, 2012 at 6:30 PM

Awwww — look at that. That’s so cute.

 

Dave actually thinks we care.

LmaO

FlatFoot on November 3, 2012 at 6:33 PM

FlatFoot on November 3, 2012 at 6:33 PM

Don’t we all desire, yearn for, and strive to earn the respect of libtard trolls?

farsighted on November 3, 2012 at 6:39 PM

Skywise on November 3, 2012 at 5:34 PM

I think you nailed it early…when one realizes how fraud can be detected, “duplicates” are the only way. Somebody votes as her where she was apparently registered to vote…then the “real” she tries to vote somewhere else. Had step 2 not happened, nobody would know about step 1 would they?

A few attempts to cleanse the voter rolls have incurred the “rath of Holder”…I applaud Nevada for having a system to detect it. They will probably now incur the “rath of Holder” as well for having such a system in place (something about disenfranchising or something)…

teejk on November 3, 2012 at 6:41 PM

Keep up the vigilance on both sides and I will respect you.

Dave Rywall on November 3, 2012 at 6:30 PM

As if. The last time you respected anyone was for ten minutes after your father spanked your butt and soaped your mouth for sassing your mother.

MelonCollie on November 3, 2012 at 6:42 PM

listens2glenn on November 3, 2012 at 6:11 PM

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The 60th vote in the Senate for Obamacare? The one who lost handily on election day but was later declared the winner after several recounts? The one who won by a margin of a few hundred votes miraculously found in an automobile trunk, in a heavily Democratic district? That Al Franken?

farsighted on November 3, 2012 at 6:20 PM

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THAT’S THE ONE !
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A textbook example of how just a little vote fraud can change the fate of the nation.

farsighted on November 3, 2012 at 6:20 PM

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As textbook as they come. : (

listens2glenn on November 3, 2012 at 6:45 PM

Dave Rywall on November 3, 2012 at 6:30 PM

Mister “Hyperventilator” what is a medla?

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So again : I can count you in as one who worries about the integrity of the voting system…really awesome to know. Really.

BTW how many instances of Democrat fraud did you list? When you start criticizing both sides evenly I’ll plant a stra right on your forehead.

CW on November 3, 2012 at 6:45 PM

Keep up the vigilance on both sides and I will respect you.

Dave Rywall on November 3, 2012 at 6:30 PM

ummmmm…

Article.

Read.

Comprehension.

Good.

98ZJUSMC on November 3, 2012 at 6:47 PM

I am Canadian, so I have little experience with these voter machines, but they sound like the dumbest things ever. I felt this way for years, even before I heard of voter fraud in connection with them. And I remember feeling the same way about punch card ballots too.

What is wrong with a paper ballot and a pencil marking X?

Johnny 100 Pesos on November 3, 2012 at 6:50 PM

Hotair loves to cherrypick and cherrypick and cherrypick.

Dave Rywall on November 3, 2012 at 6:10 PM

If you don’t like Hot Air content, go away.

If you think Hot Air content is lacking, go away and start your own blog.

You go ahead. We’ll all be over later and comment.

davidk on November 3, 2012 at 6:52 PM

The question is, how much vote fraud that is caught [which will be only a microscopic portion of that committed] will suffice to make it reasonable to assume that no matter who wins that the election is fraudulent and the winner has no legitimacy to govern? Since the fraud seems to overwhelmingly favor the Democrats [for all the times it has been shown that the voting machine selects Obama when the voter voted Romney; there should be a countervailing similar number of cases where a vote for Obama registers as Romney, otherwise the election process has been rigged for Obama], why should anyone believe that Buraq Hussein Obama is the legitimately elected president of the United States if he is declared so?

And if he is not legitimately the president, what basis other than brute force and coercion does he have to expect to be obeyed? And what duty do Americans have when they are governed illegitimately?

Uncomfortable, but necessary questions.

Subotai Bahadur on November 3, 2012 at 6:53 PM

I’ll plant a stra right on your forehead.

CW on November 3, 2012 at 6:45 PM

I see what you did there.

PXCharon on November 3, 2012 at 6:56 PM

Of course there’s no voter fraud to worry about

Magic 8 Ball says:

Concentrate and ask again.

SparkPlug on November 3, 2012 at 6:57 PM

Paperless voting machine are the most incredibly stupid idea ever, and the only reason we have them is because a bunch of morons (read democrat voters) in Florida couldn’t follow directions.

JFS61 on November 3, 2012 at 6:58 PM

The Powers That Be at the Minneapolis StarTribune must be getting bad internals on the Voter ID and Marriage Amendments in Minny.

Today they had a a editorial urging voters to just not vote on the amendments. Of course by Minny law, if a voter ignores a ballot question it goes down as a NO vote.

Lots of soiled diapers on Portland Avenue come Wednesday morning.

Bruno Strozek on November 3, 2012 at 6:59 PM

eep up the vigilance on both sides and I will respect you.

Dave Rywall on November 3, 2012 at 6:30 PM

I trust you have gone to the DU and to DKOS to keep them in line. I know you are all about fairness.

CW on November 3, 2012 at 7:01 PM

Of course there’s no voter fraud to worry about
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Speaking of worrying,this slid under the news radar,two days ago,
and thank-gawd for talk radio,top of the news hour spot’s for da
heads up,and yes,”Loveland” is a real place……

Obama canvasser charged with groping Loveland woman’s breasts
Posted: 11/01/2012 03:34:29 PM MDT
Updated: 11/02/2012 02:19:36 AM MD
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A door-to-door canvasser working for President Barack Obama’s re-election is facing charges that he “grabbed” a Loveland woman’s breasts while giving her a campaign sticker on Tuesday, police said.

Luke M. Buchanan, 24, of Washington, D.C., is charged with unlawful sexual contact, a misdemeanor. The victim’s name was not released. She is 21 years old, police said.

He has since been fired from his job with the Colorado Democratic Party.

“The female reported an adult male knocked on her door, identified himself as a member of the Obama political campaign and asked to speak with her about her voting status,” Loveland police said in a statement Thursday afternoon. “The victim reportedly spoke with the male for a short time and he then asked if he could give her a campaign sticker. The victim accepted and the male allegedly grabbed her breasts while applying the sticker to her shirt.”

A message left on Buchanan’s cellphone was not immediately returned Thursday afternoon.

Colorado Democratic Party spokesman Matt Inzeo said Buchanan was not employed by the Obama campaign but by the state party.

“We have a zero-tolerance policy for inappropriate behavior. As soon as we learned about this incident, we took immediate action, and the person in question has been terminated,” Inzeo said. “The actions of one individual in no way reflect the hard work being done every day by the thousands of employees and volunteers for the Colorado Democratic Party who have spent countless hours talking to their friends and neighbors about the importance of this election.”(More………….)
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http://www.denverpost.com/crime/ci_21907244/obama-volunteer-charged-groping-loveland-womans-breasts

canopfor on November 3, 2012 at 7:01 PM

It’s only voter fraud if Repubics do it…… likewise, free speech is only for liberals.

ultracon on November 3, 2012 at 7:02 PM

Of course there’s no voter fraud to worry about

Magic 8 Ball says:

Concentrate and ask again.

SparkPlug on November 3, 2012 at 6:57 PM

SparkPlug:

Maybe consult the Ouija Board,and see if it’ll spit out the names of the cheaters!

(snark)

canopfor on November 3, 2012 at 7:04 PM

What is wrong with a paper ballot and a pencil marking X?

Johnny 100 Pesos on November 3, 2012 at 6:50 PM

I would certainly welcome them. If high schools can score SAT tests by filling in circles with a No. 2 pencil and then sealing it, we can certainly chose candidates that way as well.

One of our local GOP committee people will be at the polls at 6 a.m. when the touch screens arrive and to make sure they all read “zero.”

PatriotGal2257 on November 3, 2012 at 7:05 PM

What is wrong with a paper ballot and a pencil marking X?

Johnny 100 Pesos on November 3, 2012 at 6:50 PM

Forcing voters to mark an X is racist. You know there was a time when that’s all most slaves could do with a pencil because they couldn’t write. In Jim Crow days racists would tell folks who couldn’t read to mark an X next to the wrong name. /libobsessedwithrace

farsighted on November 3, 2012 at 7:07 PM

******************* ALERT ***************************

Video: Romney rallies in Colorado

LIVE FEED

http://www.breakingnews.com/
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Mitt Romney Campaigns in Colorado: Live at 8:25pm (ET) on C-SPAN

Washington, DC
Saturday, November 3, 2012

Republican Presidential Candidate Mitt Romney holds a campaign rally in Englewood, Colorado, with his wife, Ann, and Randy Owen, Lead Singer of the musical group Alabama.

Colorado is considered a swing state in 2012. President Obama won Colorado in 2008 with 54 percent of the vote. Real Clear Politics’ average of polls shows the President with a slight lead over Romney in the current race.

President Obama will visit Colorado on Sunday, along with New Hampshire, Florida, Ohio and Wisconsin. On Sunday, Mitt Romney will visit Iowa, Ohio, Virginia and Pennsylvania.

Updated: Friday at 5:11pm (ET)
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http://www.c-span.org/Campaign2012/Events/Mitt-Romney-Campaigns-in-Suburban-Denver-Colorado/10737435575/

canopfor on November 3, 2012 at 7:08 PM

You go ahead. We’ll all be over later and comment.

davidk on November 3, 2012 at 6:52 PM

Think he’ll tolerate trolls on his blog?

Think his blog will provide a quote feature for commenting?

farsighted on November 3, 2012 at 7:12 PM

The story about electronic machines changing votes form Romney to Obama isn’t new, but its the first I’ve heard of it in CO now too. I’ve heard about reports of this happening now in FOUR swing states: Nevada, North Carolina, Colorado, and Ohio. And in every case its the same thing: person hits the box next to Romney on the screen…and a check appears for Obama. Reports claim that some people have had to vote 3-4 times…on multiple machines!…in order to get their vote set to Romney instead of Obama. To me, this shows two things: 1) this is widespread; and 2) these people are REALLY determined to vote for ROMNEY that they are willing to put up with it over and over in order to get their vote in! Talk about voter enthusiasm!! :D

Highlar on November 3, 2012 at 7:19 PM

***Alert *****

CNN Political Ticker ‏@PoliticalTicker

Over 1 million early votes cast so far in Ohio – http://wp.me/p4HKM-16j4

canopfor on November 3, 2012 at 7:21 PM

Dave Rywall on November 3, 2012 at 6:10 PM

Good grief, HA is a blog, not a Voter Fraud Watchdog. Every voter within their own State/County Party should already be in contact with them. My County Republican Party already emailed me with contact/email/phone numbers info if needed.

bluefox on November 3, 2012 at 7:21 PM

thanks Canopfor

CoffeeLover on November 3, 2012 at 7:13 PM

CoffeeLover:Had that DeBaucherous Democrat tidbit stored in me memory
banks,haha——————–:)

canopfor on November 3, 2012 at 7:22 PM

They system, both in terms of voting laws and the machines we use for it, is screaming out to be fixed and the legitimacy of our elections is already in question.

I have never supported the Democrat Mitt Romney who denied being a Republican when he won the only office he ever won Governor in Mass the most liberal State in the Nation.

But when I insisted he would lose it was for this reason. A company in Spain will count most of the votes in this election. I do not trust then any more than I could walk over there and complain. I was a programmer for 25 years trust me computers do what they are programmed to do and a good programmer can make them do what they want and hide the real code.

Obama will win just like Hugo Chavez always wins by cheating.

Steveangell on November 3, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Speaking of Electronic Voting Machine Gizmo’s………

New Jersey State Department allows voters displaced by Sandy the chance to vote electronically – @NBCPhiladelphia

39 mins ago from http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com by editor

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Voting-Info-for-Sandy-Victims-in-NJ–177104181.html

canopfor on November 3, 2012 at 7:27 PM

“The NAACP basically ran this poll location and the judges did nothing about it,” Rockford said.
Flora Duh on November 3, 2012 at 6:21 PM

This doesn’t surprise me after reading about all of the Caucus Fraud that went on in the 2008 Primaries. So much was documented and proved but nothing was ever done about it.

This that you posted needs to be taken to the A.G. of Texas.

bluefox on November 3, 2012 at 7:29 PM

Hey Jazz, not to rain on your parade, but do they have VIDEO of that woman who tried to vote twice in Vegas?

IIRC, Nevada does not have a requirement to show ID when voting.

GarandFan on November 3, 2012 at 7:29 PM

Obama will win just like Hugo Chavez always wins by cheating.

Steveangell on November 3, 2012 at 7:25 PM

That is a good thing otherwise we won’t have a chance to impeach him…

RIght>?

tom daschle concerned on November 3, 2012 at 7:29 PM

One of our local GOP committee people will be at the polls at 6 a.m. when the touch screens arrive and to make sure they all read “zero.”

PatriotGal2257 on November 3, 2012 at 7:05 PM

Which will assure nothing.

I saw a video of a machine that read 0 at the beginning. But at the end it gave 10% more to the chosen candidate. Computers do what they are told to do. These machines are not safe in any way shape or form. None are certified properly.

Steveangell on November 3, 2012 at 7:30 PM

***Alert ****

New Polling at PPP Linky:)

@ppppolls tweeted:
ppppolls
Barack Obama has expanded his lead in our national tracking poll to 50-47, the first time either candidate has led by more than 2 pts

45 mins ago from twitter.com by editor

https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/264860482312224769

https://twitter.com/ppppolls

canopfor on November 3, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Of course, giving them weeks upon weeks of time to cheat beyond the margin of victory is totally going to help Republicans.

astonerii on November 3, 2012 at 7:35 PM

That is a good thing otherwise we won’t have a chance to impeach him…

RIght>?

tom daschle concerned on November 3, 2012 at 7:29 PM

Does not make any difference.

Tuseday we will see.

I sure hope you will jump on the Impeach wagon if Obama wins.

The house can impeach with just 50% and will have all kinds of power to get information.

Steveangell on November 3, 2012 at 7:37 PM

**Alert ***

Poll: Romney and Obama neck and neck in swing state Florida, tied at 47% – @Reuters & Ipsos poll

3 hours ago by editor

https://twitter.com/Reuters

http://www.ipsos-na.com/news-polls/reuters-polls/

canopfor on November 3, 2012 at 7:39 PM

canopfor on November 3, 2012 at 7:01 PM

Another Good grief! I’m sorry, but any female stupid enough to allow a male stranger to “put a sticker” on her shirt shouldn’t complain.

bluefox on November 3, 2012 at 7:39 PM

***Alert *****

9 Cleveland-area voting locations without power in Sandy’s wake – @CBSNews

4 hours ago from http://www.cbsnews.com by editor

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-34222_162-57544784/nine-cleveland-area-voting-locations-without-power-in-sandys-wake/

canopfor on November 3, 2012 at 7:43 PM

canopfor on November 3, 2012 at 7:01 PM
Another Good grief! I’m sorry, but any female stupid enough to allow a male stranger to “put a sticker” on her shirt shouldn’t complain.

bluefox on November 3, 2012 at 7:39 PM

Yes try that with daughter bluefox and you regret the day you were born.

Guess you are an idiot that thinks that if a woman agrees to kiss you they agree to you raping them.

Steveangell on November 3, 2012 at 7:47 PM

Dave Rywall on November 3, 2012 at 6:10 PM

See, Dave, this is why you’re treated as an unserious poster here:

At least two of your references single source to theGrio;

Five minutes of bing:

About theGrio

TheGrio.com is the first video-centric news community site devoted to providing African Americans with stories and perspectives that appeal to them but are underrepresented in existing national news outlets. TheGrio features aggregated and original video packages, news articles, and blogs on topics from breaking news, politics, health, business, and entertainment, which concern its niche audience.

TheGrio.com, a division of NBC News, is a daily online news and opinion platform devoted to delivering stories and perspectives that reflect and affect African-American audiences. The video-centric interactive community is populated with both aggregated and original content on topics ranging from breaking news and politics to health, business, and entertainment.

TheGrio was founded in June of 2009 by NBC News and the team who created the documentary film Meeting David Wilson. News coverage and reporting from TheGrio regularly appears on other NBC News platforms such as “NBC Nightly News,” “Today,” Rock Center with Brian Williams,” MSNBC TV and msnbc.com. In March of 2012, TheGrio was one of the first news publications to launch reports looking into the story of Trayvon Martin (first piece published on March 8, 2012), and the site has continued to dedicate a significant amount of coverage to this topic as more details unfold. The video-heavy site has also gained attention for its coverage of the Haiti earthquake and for viral clips like, “Michael Vick wants a new dog.”

So, no bias, or pre-disposition in any of that, huh Dave?

massrighty on November 3, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Yes try that with daughter bluefox and you regret the day you were born.

Guess you are an idiot that thinks that if a woman agrees to kiss you they agree to you raping them.

Steveangell on November 3, 2012 at 7:47 PM

You taking all your meds in the right doses?

tom daschle concerned on November 3, 2012 at 7:50 PM

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