Video: Hungry New Yorkers dumpster-diving for food as power to lower Manhattan remains off

posted at 9:51 pm on November 1, 2012 by Allahpundit

You’ve seen it already on Drudge but I feel obliged to post, just to keep today’s running theme of Obama’s omnicompetence going. I won’t bother delving into how the media would handle this if a Republican were in office; you can tell that story as well as I can. Instead, let me give you Walter Russell Mead on the genius of the nanny state:

Admittedly, getting public support and finding the money for flood protection would be hard, but it is exactly that kind of hard job that governments are supposed to do. Leadership is getting the important things done, not looking busy on secondary tasks while the real needs of the city go quietly unmet.

The problem with nanny state governance isn’t just that it’s intrusive. It isn’t just that it stifles business with over-regulation, and it isn’t just that it empowers busybodies and costs money. It’s that it distracts government from the really big jobs that it ought to be doing.

Mayor Bloomberg has done an admirable job under great pressure as the city reels from Sandy’s attack. But an ounce of prevention beats a pound of cure. The city needed flood protection for its subways and electricity grid—and it didn’t get it. If the Mayor had spent less time and less of his political capital focusing on minutiae, this storm could have played out very differently.

Yeah, how is it that a guy who’s willing to let climate-change policy determine his vote for president chose to leave the country’s most populous city underprepared for weather disasters? Whether global warming contributed to Sandy or not, an AGW true believer in a position of power should have had special concerns about flooding and protecting infrastructure. To preach it and not act is as silly as a guy running for reelection on his terrorist ass-kicking credentials refusing to consult his counterterror team during a terrorist attack. But then, this is the myth of Bloomberg the visionary manager. The days-long power outage in Queens that I endured six years ago also happened on his watch; he could have used that as a catalyst to make upgrading the city’s old power grid his cause celebre, but he’s much more of a guns-and-Big-Gulps sort of “visionary” than a guy concerned with keeping the lights on and the trains running. Hence Mead’s point.

Go read Breitbart’s Twitter round-up of the state of play right now in New York and New Jersey when it comes to finding gas. There’s actually plenty of it nearby; there’s just no way to get it flowing again until the lights come back on.

Update: Via Gothamist, here’s how things looked downtown as of yesterday morning. If people are eating out of garbage bins today, I’m guessing that the situation hasn’t improved much:

6) I did not witness a single Red Cross Truck or FEMA Vehicle or in lower Manhattan. Recall the assistance these agencies provided after 9/11 – this is NOT HAPPENING. There are bound to be hundreds of elderly people, rich and poor, who live on the upper floors of buildings with elevators that are now disabled. IF POWER IS NOT RESTORED, THIS WILL MOVE FROM BEING AN ECONOMIC DISASTER TO A HUMANITARIAN DISASTER…

8) The substation responsible for the outage is a huge facility. It spans an entire avenue from Avenue C to D and a length of street from 13th to 14th. If crews have to inspect every coil and wire, it might be MORE THAN THREE DAYS UNTIL POWER IS RESTORED. Additionally, the site did not appear staffed with many Con Ed workers. As a note, the 2003 blackout lasted 15 hours.

9) The water from the storm surge was invariably contaminated – floating garbage, wood pieces from the dock, and possibly sewage. One Nuyorican woman who lived on Avenue C near 12th street noted the water level peaked above her waist. She was still visibly shaken this afternoon. She also recalled a huge noise at 8 pm when the substation failed. The sky, in her words, turned from black to green

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Do New Yorkers go to the store and only buy enough food for one or two days? I’ve got enough non perishable food in my pantry for two people to live on for at least 8 weeks. Hell, I always have an unopened 40lb bag of high quality dry dog food on hand for my dogs.

Wallythedog on November 1, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Not a lot of suburban sized grocery stores in the large East Coast cities & a lot of people take public transportation or even walk with folding carts on wheels, so they tend to shop 2-3 times a week…The bodegas (small family owned grocers) and delis are on every block.

workingclass artist on November 1, 2012 at 11:02 PM

When will Obama rescue the 20,000 people in Hoboken??? They are cold and hungry.

faraway on November 1, 2012 at 11:02 PM

George Bush had already rescued the NOLA residents twice in this time frame.

faraway on November 1, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Find a crack addict with a lighter. Ignite wood. Place food over burning wood. It’s called cooking sans microwave. It can be done.

wolly4321 on November 1, 2012 at 11:00 PM

But make sure you buy your carbon credits first.
I can guarantee that the EPA will be at your front door faster than FEMA.

MichaelGabriel on November 1, 2012 at 11:04 PM

“This is serious business”——-or not.

14 seconds of “meh, Hurricane Sandy” awesomeness.

http://youtu.be/CsMdO7KZZF8

:-)

PappyD61 on November 1, 2012 at 11:04 PM

I heard today that a Chinese food restaurant was able to open. No clue how they cooked anything, but they were serving by candlelight, and the health inspector showed up with a flashlight to inspect the joint.

UnderstandingisPower on November 1, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Little Bammie planning to make a campaign stop there for lunch Friday, because, well, you know why.

slickwillie2001 on November 1, 2012 at 11:04 PM

Here it is:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/if-you-do-not-like-govt-bureaucracy-do-not-read-this-story-about-a-chinese-restaurant-trying-to-help-sandy-victims/

UnderstandingisPower on November 1, 2012 at 10:57 PM

Liberals would rather throw the food out and let it rot than feed people. Sounds normal to me…

riddick on November 1, 2012 at 11:04 PM

(and I say this as someone displaced from his home due to the hurricane).

gumbyandpokey on November 1, 2012 at 10:49 PM

Thought you said you were in Wisconsin. Please try to at least keep your lies consistent within a single thread. You might have a better chance across threads.

Nobody here believes anything you post, you are nothing but a term of derision. People here merely point at you and laugh. You think you are dispiriting Romney voters with your poll postings? If anything, you are firing us up even more to get out and vote. I ask again, what purpose do you think you serve by posting here? You are completely useless.

AZfederalist on November 1, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Not to denigrate all you survivalist experts, but the folks in Lower Manhattan live in freaking towers, OK? Concrete boxes piled on top of each other. You’re not going to be building campfires in there to cook your rice and beans, and your first priority for water after drinking is sanitation. A majority of these people don’t have vehicles, so loading up on supplies was just not an option. You simply can’t carry enough stuff up to last for any length of time.

The entire habitation is based on the presence of an energy supply. Without it, the place becomes uninhabitable in short order. Forget all the nifty survival stuff. The best way to survive an extended power outage in a modern big city is to get the heck out of there.

Oh, and the one thing you never forget to add to your list of survival supplies is a gun and plenty of ammo. Because there are a lot of folks who’s idea of the perfect survival kit is whatever they can take from you.

platapapin on November 1, 2012 at 11:06 PM

“not much good with no way to cook it”

If you have a large steal can, a can opener, some paper and matches or lighter, you have a stove.

Wallythedog on November 1, 2012 at 11:06 PM

Some perspective is needed here.

I deal with FEMA and flooding all the time. This NYC event may qualify as a “500 Year Flood”, if they are still even using that term. It’s at least a 100 or 200.

Del Dolemonte on November 1, 2012 at 11:06 PM

I’ve seen this movie before…

… It does not end well for us.

Seven Percent Solution on November 1, 2012 at 11:06 PM

Not a lot of suburban sized grocery stores in the large East Coast cities & a lot of people take public transportation or even walk with folding carts on wheels, so they tend to shop 2-3 times a week…The bodegas (small family owned grocers) and delis are on every block.

workingclass artist on November 1, 2012 at 11:02 PM

Been to Manhattan lately? Better and bigger food stores than even in food crazy CA. Take a word of this foodie, I only wish we had something close to that here in Vegas. Look up Food Emporium. Or better yet Fairway, food mecca by any count.

Yes, most are North of the disaster area in lower Manhattan, but easily reached via buses, which ARE operational now.

riddick on November 1, 2012 at 11:07 PM

Pffft! One phone call to Romney to take care of this and he’d have them bellys full before night fall.

esnap on November 1, 2012 at 11:08 PM

George Bush had already rescued the NOLA residents twice in this time frame.

faraway on November 1, 2012 at 11:03 PM

In the first 72 hours, Bush’s US Coast Guard plucked at least 10,000 N.O. folks off their roofs.

Del Dolemonte on November 1, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Why would hungry people need to cook something? A hand can opener and tuna is better than hearing your stomach rumble. Saltine crackers and cold chili from a can never killed anyone.

TXMomof3 on November 1, 2012 at 11:09 PM

The bodegas (small family owned grocers) and delis are on every block.

workingclass artist on November 1, 2012 at 11:02 PM

But, but, how will they wash the bacteria out of their cloth grocery bags without power?

BTW, plastic grocery bags make excellent foot covers for wading through contaminated water.

MichaelGabriel on November 1, 2012 at 11:09 PM

And there is another storm brewing and will hit on Tuesday per Fox.

JPeterman on November 1, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Some areas in NJ reported today that power will not be restored until 10th or 11th. I think its not the lack of man power, but lack of ready to install equipment. My cousin, who lives in Fort Lee, 15 floors up with a great panoramic view of both Manhattan and NJ, said that the night of the storm it was like watching fire works with all the transformers exploding all across the land.

Transformers have to be manufactured to be installed.

riddick on November 1, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Utilities from all over the country are sending people,gear and equipment.

Lowes and Home Depot are sending inventory from all over the country.

workingclass artist on November 1, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Somehow they figured out how to roast dog in Indonesia without electricity. Maybe barry should clue NY’ers in on the secret.

wolly4321 on November 1, 2012 at 11:10 PM

“not much good with no way to cook it”

If you have a large steal can, a can opener, some paper and matches or lighter, you have a stove.

Wallythedog on November 1, 2012 at 11:06 PM

I’ll try that indoors real soon.

Del Dolemonte on November 1, 2012 at 11:11 PM

Del Dolemonte on November 1, 2012 at 11:06 PM

Our flood was classified as that.

TXMomof3 on November 1, 2012 at 11:11 PM

You’re not going to be building campfires in there to cook your rice and beans, and your first priority for water after drinking is sanitation. A majority of these people don’t have vehicles, so loading up on supplies was just not an option. You simply can’t carry enough stuff up to last for any length of time.

platapapin on November 1, 2012 at 11:06 PM

Stove and food.

Put stove on counter…cook food.

Add spice and maybe Soy Sauce and eat.

sharrukin on November 1, 2012 at 11:11 PM

Oh, and the one thing you never forget to add to your list of survival supplies is a gun and plenty of ammo. Because there are a lot of folks who’s idea of the perfect survival kit is whatever they can take from you.

platapapin on November 1, 2012 at 11:06 PM

Where, in NYC?

As much as you have a point about concrete jungle in Manhattan, pretty much EVERY major market makes deliveries there, you just pick up your cell phone and dial. How do you think Battery Park area live with no markets in sight? Normal for Manhattan. ALL of Manhatan.

Let’s not make assumptions.

riddick on November 1, 2012 at 11:11 PM

Been to Manhattan lately? Better and bigger food stores than even in food crazy CA. Take a word of this foodie, I only wish we had something close to that here in Vegas. Look up Food Emporium. Or better yet Fairway, food mecca by any count.

Yes, most are North of the disaster area in lower Manhattan, but easily reached via buses, which ARE operational now.

riddick on November 1, 2012 at 11:07 PM

I haven’t been in a while so I’m glad to hear it…and glad buses are running

workingclass artist on November 1, 2012 at 11:12 PM

Do New Yorkers go to the store and only buy enough food for one or two days? I’ve got enough non perishable food in my pantry for two people to live on for at least 8 weeks. Hell, I always have an unopened 40lb bag of high quality dry dog food on hand for my dogs.

Wallythedog on November 1, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Many, if not most people in Manhattan have no car and use the subway to get around. You buy what you can carry home on foot or the subway. Space is at a premium. People live in apartments and condos and do not have storage space for lots of extra food.

cam2 on November 1, 2012 at 11:13 PM

I’ll try that indoors real soon.

Del Dolemonte on November 1, 2012 at 11:11 PM

Make sure you have parquet floor, as is custom in Manhattan.

riddick on November 1, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Pffft! One phone call to Romney to take care of this and he’d have them bellys full before night fall.

esnap on November 1, 2012 at 11:08 PM

Maybe he and Trump will organize an airlift into NYC

faraway on November 1, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Lol….well, these folks only had a solid week notice that there was a hurricane heading their way.

I have an idea, I’m going to flop on the ground and cry and blame the government for everything instead of taking responsibility for myself to get to higher ground.

KMC1 on November 1, 2012 at 11:14 PM

My little slip of a daughter could heft an entire case of Ramen into the house, the stuff is basically air-puffed noodles. Please don’t tell me that two weeks isn’t long enough for fully grown adults to pack a little extra away here and there.

Bishop on November 1, 2012 at 11:15 PM

People live in apartments and condos and do not have storage space for lots of extra food.

cam2 on November 1, 2012 at 11:13 PM

A dozen cans of tuna, two big jars of peanut butter, and two big boxes of saltines don’t take much space. All of it can fit in a rolly-shopper-cart in one trip to the store.

oldroy on November 1, 2012 at 11:15 PM

(and I say this as someone displaced from his home due to the hurricane).

gumbyandpokey on November 1, 2012 at 10:49 PM

Thought you said you were in Wisconsin. Please try to at least keep your lies consistent within a single thread. You might have a better chance across threads.

Are you out of your mind? This is what I posted…about whether the hurricane was having an impact…

Adrian Gray ‏@adrian_gray
Most see Obama gain due to Sandy. I didn’t expect that (and I say this as someone displaced from his home due to the hurricane).

gumbyandpokey on November 1, 2012 at 11:15 PM

When Geraldo was broadcasting from Southeast Texas in the aftermath of Hurricane Rita, he was doing so standing in a few feet of water. The only thing was, it was in an underpass that floods from the slightest rain shower.

The man is a drama queen.

ShadowsPawn on November 1, 2012 at 10:37 PM

We were on “vacay” in Mobile when Katrina came through.. The Weather Channel folks were at our hotel, so we watched them go outside, hang onto the post for the TV cameras and then go back in their rooms. They were mean to the kids who had come from Waveland MS (where the storm made landfall), they had generators for power, we had none. Did they offer to make a pot of coffee for anyone during the storm..nope…

We made a quick trip to WalMart for ice/ice chest, water, sammich makings, radio, flashlites and candles. In the morning we hightailedd it to Birmingham.. As we were going North, we saw truck after truck of electric companies/phone companies heading south.

Learned quick about watching storms, and getting ready from our vacation!

kringeesmom on November 1, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Gumby, do you really have to derail every thread with your Obama poll humping?

Damn..

wargamer6 on November 1, 2012 at 11:17 PM

Why would hungry people need to cook something? A hand can opener and tuna is better than hearing your stomach rumble. Saltine crackers and cold chili from a can never killed anyone.

TXMomof3 on November 1, 2012 at 11:09 PM

What about the Hot Gas resulting from the cold chili from a can that has been “fermented” in the stomach of the person who ate it?

Mighty Wind.

Del Dolemonte on November 1, 2012 at 11:17 PM

My little slip of a daughter could heft an entire case of Ramen into the house, the stuff is basically air-puffed noodles. Please don’t tell me that two weeks isn’t long enough for fully grown adults to pack a little extra away here and there.

Bishop on November 1, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Stores here deliver. To your doorman. Who then delivers it right to your door.

That’s Manhattan for you. Most of my family lives there. Thankfully in the 50s though 80s.

riddick on November 1, 2012 at 11:17 PM

Take a single day for canning and you can stock enough chow for weeks, and if you can regularly you can rotate the stock and eat that which has been on the shelf for a while.

Those of us who do our own canning could go months if need be, especially at this time of year. I just finished turning 2 bushels of apples into applesauce a week ago. And with the draught set to wreck havoc with food prices, I decided to stock up on meat while I could, so my pantry is loaded with canned chicken, beef, and pork. It’s more work initially than freezing, but you save the time at the other end.

A friend recently told me how to can bread. (Not yeast breads, but ones like pumpkin or zucchini bread.) I intend to try that in the next few weeks.

CJ on November 1, 2012 at 11:18 PM

How much do a bag of dried beans cost? How many lbs can you stuff in a footlocker? I try to stockpile foods that only require heat and water.

tom daschle concerned on November 1, 2012 at 11:18 PM

People live in apartments and condos and do not have storage space for lots of extra food.

cam2 on November 1, 2012 at 11:13 PM

ROFL Wait….what?

Were they afraid the neighbors would drop by before the hurricane for a dinner party or something? If I’m preparing to hunker down the food is going to get piled wherever there is room.

Come on. Seriously.

Bishop on November 1, 2012 at 11:18 PM

now you know why people that live in metro areas are mostly democrats, cannot do anything for themselves

RonK on November 1, 2012 at 11:18 PM

Platipapin,, ever hear of Stalingrad? Our problem is our city dwellers are illiterate, ignorant, lazy, skill less, feckless fools stuck on gubmint assistance.

wolly4321 on November 1, 2012 at 11:19 PM

Learned quick about watching storms, and getting ready from our vacation!

kringeesmom on November 1, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Yeah, if you are vacationing on the Gulf Coast, you learn to watch the weather closely!

ShadowsPawn on November 1, 2012 at 11:21 PM

when it comes to finding gas. There’s actually plenty of it nearby; there’s just no way to get it flowing again until the lights come back on.

A guy could make a lot of dough with a bicycle-cranked gas pump. Just sayin’.

Kenosha Kid on November 1, 2012 at 11:22 PM

A friend recently told me how to can bread. (Not yeast breads, but ones like pumpkin or zucchini bread.) I intend to try that in the next few weeks.

CJ on November 1, 2012 at 11:18 PM

Never done breads before either. I’m testing out the method of salting beef and pork to see how it lasts, though I’ve got a buddy with a smoker shed and we can pile away quite the supply of dried meat.

He once lived in a place that forced him to use his iron rations from time to time, and his best advice to me was to have as much of your emergency food be that which required no heat or liquid to eat.

Bishop on November 1, 2012 at 11:22 PM

Platipapin,, ever hear of Stalingrad? Our problem is our city dwellers are illiterate, ignorant, lazy, skill less, feckless fools stuck on gubmint assistance.

wolly4321 on November 1, 2012 at 11:19 PM

Leningrad was much worse. MUCH WORSE.

riddick on November 1, 2012 at 11:23 PM

Mason Jars + seed + water soak + rinse twice a day = Fresh green food. It’s called sprouting. Cheap, easy, very nutritious.

oldroy on November 1, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Here is a list of things you should have in your home:

10-14 days of food reserve made up of things that you don’t need to cook — SPAM, canned corn beef and canned fish. Crackers, nuts, dried fruit and granola are good too. Get some soups, canned veggies and jerky. A lot people get MREs but they are too caloric and only useful if you have move on foot. Since we are talking post natural disaster you can generally shelter in place.

By all means buy bottled water and filters but if you have gas you can boil water. The cheapest way to supply safe fresh water are water purification tablets. The water tastes bad but you won’t get sick.

Now for the most important non food item that nobody mentioned and not available to residents of NYC. Firearms for personal protection and getting emergency food if things are really bad. For an dense urban area you a handgun and a short barreled shotgun. You should only use target birdshot and #4 turkey shot. These loads will not penetrate walls and kill your neighbors.

If live in a suburban area you should have four guns. The handgun, a 22lr/magnum, a high powered rifle and a full sized shotgun. You can protect yourself and if need be hunt small game, crows and the local deer. If it looks like the crisis will outlast your two week food supply I would learn to love squirrel and ‘coon first because the supply may be quickly depleted.

I am not a prepper by any means but I understand that even advanced societies are always on the edge if only for a week or two.

jerryofva on November 1, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Only freegans and homeless dumpster dive here. This is not North Korea, just a few blocks uptown there are stores and restaurants open.

Urban Infidel on November 1, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Always with the excuses, huh?

You starve for one reason.

Stupidity.

wolly4321 on November 1, 2012 at 11:24 PM

riddick on November 1, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Utilities from all over the country are sending people,gear and equipment.

Lowes and Home Depot are sending inventory from all over the country.

workingclass artist on November 1, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Here in NH, I’ve seen out of state power line crews from:

1. Oklahoma

2. Mississippi

3. Texas

4. Missouri

There are also “National Management Companies” that the utility companies use to help them out; these firms combine local electrical workers (union, of course!) with their own equipment.

Del Dolemonte on November 1, 2012 at 11:25 PM

At least they have government condoms, right?
Heckofa job there Brownie.

Kenosha Kid on November 1, 2012 at 11:25 PM

Only freegans and homeless dumpster dive here. This is not North Korea, just a few blocks uptown there are stores and restaurants open.

Urban Infidel on November 1, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Too bad Russian media were reporting this crap early this morning. I guess their communist counterparts here decided to join the chorus.

riddick on November 1, 2012 at 11:25 PM

Adrian Gray ‏@adrian_gray
Most see Obama gain due to Sandy. I didn’t expect that (and I say this as someone displaced from his home due to the hurricane).

gumbyandpokey on November 1, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Most folks would have pasted that into a quote. As it is, your post looked like you were replying to an Adrian Gray @adrian_gray rather than quoting him.

AZfederalist on November 1, 2012 at 11:26 PM

Only freegans and homeless dumpster dive here. This is not North Korea, just a few blocks uptown there are stores and restaurants open.

Urban Infidel on November 1, 2012 at 11:24 PM

So, Hussein’s buddies who live in Manhattan and who spend so much time talking about “helping the homeless” are not doing $30K per head dinners for them? Sara Jessica Parker? Vintour? Jay-Z? That bubbly would be more than appreciated by garbage diving homeless right about now.

riddick on November 1, 2012 at 11:28 PM

Peanut butter. It’s rich, filling, and packed with calories. You can spread it on just about anything, lasts quite a while, rarely goes bad to the point of being unsafe and doesn’t require refrigeration. Melt it and it will gel again, freeze it and it will soften, form it and it holds its shape. You can even get a liquified form that comes in a tube.

Bishop on November 1, 2012 at 10:34 PM

There’s even powdered versions too.

Brat on November 1, 2012 at 11:28 PM

Spam – Ancient Aztec Superfood.

oldroy on November 1, 2012 at 11:29 PM

Not much good with no way to cook it…

cam2 on November 1, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Excuse me? You’ve never eaten Chef Boyardee without heating it first? Dinty Moore? Anything in a can? It. Does. Not. Need. Cooking. *rolling eyes*

quikstrike98 on November 1, 2012 at 11:29 PM

A guy could make a lot of dough with a bicycle-cranked gas pump. Just sayin’.

Kenosha Kid on November 1, 2012 at 11:22 PM

Maybe 50 years ago when, when people could actually invent things.

During World War II, my grandfather invented a device that made ship engines quieter, making it harder for U-boats to find them.
It saved thousands of lives. The government gave him a piece of paper thanking him, then kept the patents.

Classic “You didn’t build that” story.

MichaelGabriel on November 1, 2012 at 11:31 PM

cam2 on November 1, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Excuse me? You’ve never eaten Chef Boyardee without heating it first? Dinty Moore? Anything in a can? It. Does. Not. Need. Cooking. *rolling eyes*

quikstrike98 on November 1, 2012 at 11:29 PM

Can I have some Dinty Moore Beef Stew?

Del Dolemonte on November 1, 2012 at 11:34 PM

Obama’s America.

nazo311 on November 1, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Spam – Ancient Aztec Superfood.

oldroy on November 1, 2012 at 11:29 PM

You’ve obviously never been to Hawai’i.

Del Dolemonte on November 1, 2012 at 11:36 PM

Only freegans and homeless dumpster dive here. This is not North Korea, just a few blocks uptown there are stores and restaurants open.

Urban Infidel on November 1, 2012 at 11:24 PM

You got that right, North Koreans aren’t restricted in their salt and sugary drink intake by the government.

Bishop on November 1, 2012 at 11:36 PM

In June our power went out in a bad storm. We had straight line winds that brought down hundreds of trees and power lines. Our power was out for 9 days, in 100 + degree heat. It wasn’t fun, and we did not have 5 days warning, but we didn’t starve. We had enough in our pantry to last. Why didn’t these people go out every day and buy a bag of canned foods, candles, batteries, flashlights and whatever they thought they might need? They had the time. You dont need to heat canned things and sammiches, canned fruit, bottled water will keep you going.

I agree that, if by Monday, it’s not better, things are going to get very, very, ugly.

megthered on November 1, 2012 at 11:37 PM

Canned black beans, small can of sweet corn niblets, one can of rotel. Saltines. Meal for 4 people. Complete protein, carbs. No cooking.

Dried Salami – high in protein. Put it on crackers. No cooking.

Don’t forget the Velveeta…..

oldroy on November 1, 2012 at 11:38 PM

There’s even powdered versions too.

Brat on November 1, 2012 at 11:28 PM

The only problem being another positive of regular peanut butter that I forgot to include earlier: It can be used as a temporary waterproofer for certain things such as tent seams.

Bishop on November 1, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Only freegans and homeless dumpster dive here. This is not North Korea, just a few blocks uptown there are stores and restaurants open.

Urban Infidel on November 1, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Hoboken is like Beghazi. Obama won’t rescue either one.

faraway on November 1, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Nope, Gumby told you that Obama swooped in, looked Presidential, and had Chris Christie kiss his a** for a few days, which changed the course of this election.

And Obama’s rising poll numbers back that up.

Sorry if that outrages you, but reality isn’t always fair.

gumbyandpokey on November 1, 2012 at 10:34 PM

You have a warped view of the world that you try to pass off as reality. You see a headline on Drudge, or anywhere else and instantly you have some kind of over reaction to it.

Throughout your history here your manic obsession of the day has changed many times.

Gov. Walker
Cooked Unemployment Numbers (Atomic?)
GOTV and Early Voting
The second debate
The VP debate
The third debate
Binders and the war on women
Big Bird

All of the above are typical talking points for a dyed in the wool leftist. As I’ve said before, you aren’t fooling anyone.

So, your latest obsession is a photo of Obama looking presidential. That of course begs the question, what did he look like before the storm hit? Unpresidential? If so, then you’ve got a real problem.

As usual, your twisted and warped view of the world has caused you to over react before understanding the situation. Anyone that has lived through the aftermath of a tropical cyclone (and I have, twice) understands what comes if you aren’t prepared. The people affected by the storm were woefully unprepared and the federal government is going to take days to get help to the people that really need it. You are already starting to see the break down though; people are getting desperate as supplies are getting scarce.

Are you honest enough to admit that this isn’t a good thing for Obama, or anyone for that matter? No, you are so obsessed with politicizing an event to help your cause that you pay no attention the details, or how complex situations can become. Why? Because you are a simpleton.

I can’t believe you are audacious enough to post poll numbers here again. This morning in a previous thread you ranted on about Obama’s superior GOTV and early voting. You talked about how these things would win the election for Obama and called Mitt Romney “hapless”.

When faced with the truth, that PEW and Gallup showed your claims to be a lie, you ran away, like you always do when people call you on your outright lies.

Adrian Gray ‏@adrian_gray
Most see Obama gain due to Sandy. I didn’t expect that (and I say this as someone displaced from his home due to the hurricane).

gumbyandpokey on November 1, 2012 at 10:49 PM

Only a fool would believe that. People are seeing the mass devastation, the people that are stranded, the gas shortages and the dumpster diving. Things will get better, they always do as time goes by, but either way,Hurricane Sandy isn’t changing this race one way or the other.

Now run along little troll.

ShadowsPawn on November 1, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Not much good with no way to cook it…

cam2 on November 1, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Dinty Moore beef stew, cost less than $1 per package, light weight, easy too store, realist shelf life 5+ years. Does taste better if heated, but still beats dumpster diving if eaten cold.

Wallythedog on November 1, 2012 at 11:39 PM

If live in a suburban area you should have four guns. The handgun, a 22lr/magnum, a high powered rifle and a full sized shotgun.

jerryofva on November 1, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Heh…you described my collection exactly.

James on November 1, 2012 at 11:40 PM

Wolf brand chile. For canned stuff, darn good. Can be eaten without cooking – although here is the best way to prepare it:

Make small campfire. Take lid off can. Put can on fire. Wait a few minutes. Take can out of fire with pliers. Eat.

oldroy on November 1, 2012 at 11:41 PM

90% of Hoboken is without power. And Obama’s FEMA won’t have it up for 7-10 days.

Maybe they could call the UN or somebody to help them.

gumby, what say you?

faraway on November 1, 2012 at 11:43 PM

Sad part about all of this?

Most of those people will still vote for Obama…

BTW: all those well-to-do hipsters celebs that were pledging their lives to Premier O? How come they’re not out there passing out some of those goodie bags from the last Awards show?

Anyone seen Sean Penn in a canoe paddling down 14th street passing out food? How about Micheal Moore? We can feed hundreds with whats stuck to his chins…thousands if you cook him right.

BlaxPac on November 1, 2012 at 11:45 PM

Yes, most are North of the disaster area in lower Manhattan, but easily reached via buses, which ARE operational now.

riddick on November 1, 2012 at 11:07 PM

Will there be supply interruptions? The stores open now, but will they get resupplied as usual?

oldroy on November 1, 2012 at 11:45 PM

Or $20 of rice and beans.

oldroy on November 1, 2012 at 10:02 PM

Not much good with no way to cook it…

cam2 on November 1, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Excuse me? You’ve never eaten Chef Boyardee without heating it first? Dinty Moore? Anything in a can? It. Does. Not. Need. Cooking. *rolling eyes*

quikstrike98 on November 1, 2012 at 11:29 PM

Dried rice and beans DO, which is what cam2 was referring to in oldroy’s post, which you left out.

ebrown2 on November 1, 2012 at 11:47 PM

Unions in NJ are turning away electricians from southern states cause they’re from right to work states…

Unions Suck

workingclass artist on November 1, 2012 at 11:48 PM

Unions in NJ are turning away electricians from southern states cause they’re from right to work states…

workingclass artist on November 1, 2012 at 11:48 PM

It would be nice to have a little investigative journalism going on to point the human suffering as a result of union obstructionism.

faraway on November 1, 2012 at 11:50 PM

jerryofva on November 1, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Good advice, all. You should also have some kind of a bug out bag in your home and/or your car.

Generally the one in your car should be able to get you back to your home or another safe destination safely if you should run out of gas.

The bag in your home should be a little more versatile and handle getting you out of harms way if you had to walk.

I’m not an extreme prepper, but I can feed and hydrate my family of four for roughly four months without help from anyone.

ShadowsPawn on November 1, 2012 at 11:50 PM

Unions in NJ are turning away electricians from southern states cause they’re from right to work states…

Unions Suck

workingclass artist on November 1, 2012 at 11:48 PM

Link? Let them freeze in the dark if they don’t want help.

slickwillie2001 on November 1, 2012 at 11:51 PM

Link? Let them freeze in the dark if they don’t want help.

slickwillie2001 on November 1, 2012 at 11:51 PM

http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2012/11/01/its-come-to-this-281/

sharrukin on November 1, 2012 at 11:53 PM

If live in a suburban area you should have four guns. The handgun, a 22lr/magnum, a high powered rifle and a full sized shotgun.

jerryofva on November 1, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Heh…you described my collection exactly.

Also, your handguns should be in .45ACP or 9mm, rifes in .223 (5.56mm) or .308 (7.62mmx51mm), shotgun 12ga., that you would be most likely to find replacment ammo if things really got bad.

Wallythedog on November 1, 2012 at 11:54 PM

Barack Obama doesn’t care about white people from Staten Island.

/KanyeWest

JimLennon on November 1, 2012 at 11:55 PM

Unions in NJ are turning away electricians from southern states cause they’re from right to work states…

Unions Suck

workingclass artist on November 1, 2012 at 11:48 PM

This is what needs to be trumpeted in the news, but of course it doesn’t fit the socialist agenda so forget it.

KMC1 on November 1, 2012 at 11:56 PM

Same guns here. .22lr. small game. All purpose scatter gun. High power rifles, AR & bolt, handguns. Multitask. Honestly, the .22 would be the most handy. Rabbits and quail. Or in NYC, rats, cats and dogs.

I.hate.cities.

wolly4321 on November 1, 2012 at 11:59 PM

Will there be supply interruptions? The stores open now, but will they get resupplied as usual?

oldroy on November 1, 2012 at 11:45 PM

Plenty of access to Manhattan, via a number of bridges, East and West.

riddick on November 2, 2012 at 12:03 AM

Obama’s brother lives in a shack. So, NY, get used to it.

faraway on November 2, 2012 at 12:05 AM

Video? I don’t see no stinkin’ video….

Sherman1864 on November 2, 2012 at 12:05 AM

Also, your handguns should be in .45ACP or 9mm, rifes in .223 (5.56mm) or .308 (7.62mmx51mm), shotgun 12ga., that you would be most likely to find replacment ammo if things really got bad.

Wallythedog on November 1, 2012 at 11:54 PM

Wally, I would amend that list only becuase of the weight vs flexablity.

For those in a urban enviroment with little or no experience with gunfighting, I would suggest a revolver/automatic in 9mm & .22LR and a .20 gauge shotgun OR carbine in either pistol caliber instead.

Throw in a few boxes of FMJ & JSP, slug, #4 or #8 shot for the shotgun, and you can handle both offense, fighting defensive withdraw and survival food gathering very neatly.

Another item to have: a good folding knife with at least a 4inch blade and a QUALITY Leather man style tool. Pay for quality folks, don’t get the El-cheapo specially for $5.

Plus for those that have vehicles or homes, I would suggest stocking up on Clorox, Lye Soap, Rubbing or drinking alcohol & Salt. Clorox can sanitize as well as disinfect water sources as well as purification tabs, and is was cheaper. Lye Soap and Salt will sterilize food and store it for long periods of time.

If you got a go to hell bag in the car, I would suggest a quart of both Clorox & cheap vodka in highest proof you can find.

BlaxPac on November 2, 2012 at 12:10 AM

Same guns here. .22lr. small game. All purpose scatter gun. High power rifles, AR & bolt, handguns. Multitask. Honestly, the .22 would be the most handy. Rabbits and quail. Or in NYC, rats, cats and dogs.

I.hate.cities.

I live in the old section of a small town (pop. 25,000), lots of old oak trees and lots of very tame squirrels, you literally could hunt them with a stick.

Wallythedog on November 2, 2012 at 12:13 AM

ShadowsPawn on November 1, 2012 at 11:39 PM

At the risk of sounding like a teenager, Gumby just got completely owned!

The Notorious G.O.P on November 2, 2012 at 12:13 AM

The Notorious G.O.P on November 2, 2012 at 12:13 AM

I think he was the fat union slob sleeping on the floor of the Madison Capitol.

slickwillie2001 on November 2, 2012 at 12:18 AM

Where is FEMA?

In 2004, the island where I live (Sanibel) was hit squarley by hurricane Charlie, a 145 mph monster. Within two days we had 80 US forest rangers with chain saws clearing our streets. The main drag was totally blocked, with downed trees for its 4 mile length.

It appears that Bloomberg had no emergency plan for such a contingency. In Florida, every county and incorporated city must have one. And each is reviewed at the state level. Florida took 4 hurricanes in one season in 2004, all cat. 2 and above. Charlie was a 4.

It looks like NYC was winging it. No disaster HQ, no prepositioned emergency supplies, no plans to evacuate people trapped without electricity and elevators in high rises. Maybe Bloomberg will blame his predecessor.

Corky Boyd on November 2, 2012 at 12:19 AM

Bloomberg and his crowd including the sign language lady seem to be fit and healthy enough.

Bloomberg is a small man in in just about every way, it appears.

Both Lord Mayor Bloomberg and Guvnor Cuomo are doing their best to blame global warming for a disastrous response to the disaster: I wonder how long that will work….

Sherman1864 on November 2, 2012 at 12:22 AM

Wallythedog on November 1, 2012 at 10:54 PM
Many, if not most people in Manhattan have no car and use the subway to get around. You buy what you can carry home on foot or the subway. Space is at a premium. People live in apartments and condos and do not have storage space for lots of extra food.

cam2 on November 1, 2012 at 11:13 PM

Poor helpless stupid bastard(s). You’re denying that there’s room for 4cu’ worth of stuff. There’s more room than that under a couch or bed. Or on top of a fridge. Or lining the bottom of a closet. STARVE, morons.

rayra on November 2, 2012 at 12:22 AM

ShadowsPawn on November 1, 2012 at 11:39 PM

At the risk of sounding like a teenager, Gumby just got completely owned!

The Notorious G.O.P on November 2, 2012 at 12:13 AM

“pwned”.

Kenosha Kid on November 2, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Not to denigrate all you survivalist experts, but the folks in Lower Manhattan live in freaking towers, OK? Concrete boxes piled on top of each other. You’re not going to be building campfires in there to cook your rice and beans….

Hmmm….I would have thought them smart folks up north had heard of a nifty little thing called the sandwich.

xblade on November 2, 2012 at 12:29 AM

Can I have some Dinty Moore Beef Stew?

Del Dolemonte on November 1, 2012 at 11:34 PM

Whooooweeee… you do NOT want to be around me after a Dinty Moore feast! Now that’s what I call Hot Air!

Hill60 on November 2, 2012 at 12:29 AM

I live in queens. Heading home to Long Island to work for the weekend. My family is 1.5 hrs east of NYC.

My friends in Nassau county LI just outside of NYC can’t find fuel. Lines are 1 hr in my hometown.

Friend in NJ waited 2 hrs.

Long Island power authority suspects a 2-3 week wait for power restoration.

ConEd says nov 11 for vast majority of NYC customers.

Here comes social unrest my friends.

blatantblue on November 2, 2012 at 12:34 AM

I watched CBS News wanting to hear if they said anything about Benghazi (no) but they did have info on apartment dwellers, all stuck in those high towers because the elevators are out. One elderly couple said that they don’t want to leave because they know they have to climb 20 flights back up.

So their super was going out and getting food from relief orgs, which seemed to be in good supply. But this is going to get bad, soon, without help.

What the heck is Bloomberg doing? He’s going ahead with a marathon which starts in Staten Island! People are still trapped there!

Also, some non-union trucks were turned back from Jersey. Hope that’s not happening in NYC.

PattyJ on November 2, 2012 at 12:35 AM

Where is FEMA?

Corky Boyd on November 2, 2012 at 12:19 AM

It toured state of NJ yesterday on Christie’s dime. Haven’t you heard?

Maybe now liberal idiots in NY will appreciate the job Giuliani did in his time. Not that I count on that, they will still blindly vote D down the ticket. Same as those in NJ will do. Won’t be surprised to find out that Christie does same.

Why would the idiot give Hussein a bump just a few days before election is more than questionable when even liberals Bloomberg and Cuomo declined.

riddick on November 2, 2012 at 12:39 AM

Hey! Obama got his foto op yesterday. New York is OLD news! Time to get back on the campaign trail!

New Yorkers voted for Obama and Bloomberg. “Elections have consequences”!

GarandFan on November 2, 2012 at 12:41 AM

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