Obama hits Romney on auto bailouts in first Michigan ad

posted at 1:21 pm on November 1, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

What Team Obama thinks will work in manufacturing-heavy Ohio will surely work just as well for the actual seat of the auto industry, the thinking likely goes. Their first ad there is a Michigan-tailored variation on their “Mitt Romney would’ve let the auto industry eat cake; see, he said so himself in 2008″ theme — which is a gross misrepresentation of Mitt Romney’s actual plan, but hey, it’s not like they’ve ever shied away from pushing false narratives before.

The real odd thing about this is, of course, that Team Obama is airing ads in Michigan at all; what was presumed to have been a safe blue bet not too long ago suddenly finds itself on the roster of toss-ups. They’ve got to counter recent moves from conservative groups and Team Romney, and the auto bailouts are definitely something concrete that resonates with a lot of people in Michigan — which, luckily for Team Obama, means that they have an easy issue to tout that doesn’t get into those pesky weeds of the larger economy, unemployment, and the deficit.

Yesterday, Michigan was on the list of states that, if Obama were to lose them in the election, David Axelrod proclaimed he would “shave his mustache,” but it doesn’t look like they’re taking it for granted, does it?


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Funny, they include a headline from the paper that endorsed Mitt.

Flange on November 1, 2012 at 1:23 PM

outrage by lsm because mitt made a ‘false’ ad on Jeep for days….
obama makes a false ad, lsm….meh

oooh how i hate the double standard

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 1:25 PM

GM is ‘alive’ and broke, owned by the unions.

Delphi workers are in the trash, thrown there by Obama.

Benghazi 4 are left behind.

Coal will ‘kill’ Obama in several states.

Benghazi and jobs will ‘kill’ Obama, as they should.

Schadenfreude on November 1, 2012 at 1:25 PM

They have repeatedly misrepresented Romney’s position on the bailout and taken advantage of most people’s ignorance on the difference between bankruptcy and liquidation. They have no leg to stand on regarding Romney’s Jeep ad. Shameful.

SAZMD on November 1, 2012 at 1:25 PM

The entirety of Michigan vs. Wayne, Ingham, and Washtenaw counties. Let’s hope the rest of the state wins out over the Blue 3! Praying for high turnout in Kent Co and depressed turnout in Wayne.

Michigan can go red this year. I feel it. And I darn well hope it does!

lansing quaker on November 1, 2012 at 1:25 PM

They have no leg to stand on regarding Romney’s Jeep ad. Shameful.

SAZMD on November 1, 2012 at 1:25 PM

and yet the lsm helped him move that message….

arrrgghhh

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 1:26 PM

I hope I am right and everyone gets out there and votes…….this just seems like more last week desperation. I think it may just be a long night Tuesday.

CoffeeLover on November 1, 2012 at 1:28 PM

GM earning are down.

Taxpayers will never be repaid.

Schadenfreude on November 1, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Brit Hume said the Jeep ad was factually correct.

Schadenfreude on November 1, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Schadenfreude on November 1, 2012 at 1:29 PM

as did mark halperin

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 1:30 PM

I thought that Michigan wasn’t in play.

MeatHeadinCA on November 1, 2012 at 1:30 PM

WaPo moves Ohio from “lean Obama” back to “toss up”

cmsinaz I am so sickened by the MSM.

Schadenfreude Stu Varney also said the ad was factually correct.

CoffeeLover on November 1, 2012 at 1:32 PM

I think the government needs to buy more volts and fiskars.

acyl72 on November 1, 2012 at 1:33 PM

In the four presidential elections prior to 2008, Democratic candidates got 9,060,521 total votes in Ohio, as compared to 8,965,170 for the Republican candidates, according to calculations made by the Cleveland Plain Dealer. In 2008, despite routing John McCain nationally, Obama carried the state by just 262,224 votes out of more than 5.6 million cast.

No one expects Romney to underperform McCain in the state — both because he is far better funded than the Arizona senator was and the incumbent is far less popular than he was in 2008.

I know, O/T. But with Bambi down 200K in early voting, how is he “winning” OH again with rabid Mitt fever running about?

Only WaPo would call this a “toss up.”

Turtle317 on November 1, 2012 at 1:34 PM

I wish Mitt had struck back much earlier on this line of attack, because Obama is lying his arse off. The bailout did NOT save those companies…it was the bankruptcy process (a version of which Romney supported) that allowed them to shed debt and come out better than before (though hardly as healthy as claimed). In other words, Romney wanted to save taxpayer dough while making them go through basically what Obama made them do in order to achieve THE SAME RESULT.

The bailout was nothing but a political payoff to the UAW. It didn’t save Detroit, and it will cost taxpayers billions (if the feds sold their share today).

changer1701 on November 1, 2012 at 1:34 PM

I put this on another thread, I thought it was interesting. I hope and pray it comes true for R&R!

http://nation.foxnews.com/history/2012/11/01/republicans-have-won-every-november-6th-presidential-election-1860
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letget on November 1, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Bankruptcy was without a doubt the way it should have gone. A measured and strict financial plan and recovery plan would have been far more appropriate than Obama’s defunct approach of simply throwing more money at the problem. Obama is so incompetent and inept he probably doesn’t even understand the bankruptcy process.

rplat on November 1, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Brit Hume said the Jeep ad was factually correct.

Schadenfreude on November 1, 2012 at 1:29 PM

That’s because it is. Chrysler did say they would start building Jeeps in China…the media decided to fact-check what they thought it implied, rather than what it said.

changer1701 on November 1, 2012 at 1:37 PM

Right there with ya coffee lover

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 1:37 PM

luckily for Team Obama, means that they have an easy issue to tout that doesn’t get into those pesky weeds of the larger economy, unemployment, and the deficit.

Michigan has an “FU America” attitude toward the world when it comes to the economy, unemployment and the deficit. So long as they have their auto plants, Union, and family member buying plans for new cars….. they really don’t care about the larger economy or unemployment in other sectors.

Happy Nomad on November 1, 2012 at 1:37 PM

I know 20,000 auto workers who won’t be voting for Obama….the 20,000 workers whose pensions Obama cut during the bailut simply because they didn’t belong to a Union!!

easyt65 on November 1, 2012 at 1:38 PM

And one more thing…why are people suddenly in love with bailing out corporations? In ’08, there was a lot of anger over AIG, etc. Those companies also employ a lot of people, but that didn’t matter.

changer1701 on November 1, 2012 at 1:39 PM

I think the government needs to buy more volts and fiskars.

acyl72 on November 1, 2012 at 1:33 PM

They should buy every fiskar made and park them under and in every government building.

tom daschle concerned on November 1, 2012 at 1:41 PM

GM earning are down.

Taxpayers will never be repaid.

Schadenfreude on November 1, 2012 at 1:28 PM

GM earnings are what they are. What the real crime here (other than handing billions over to the UAW) is the fact that the government’s holdings in GM were purchased for over twice the price of the stock now. They knew it was over-valued when they did it and it will be years before the stock is ever worth what it was bought for.

Happy Nomad on November 1, 2012 at 1:41 PM

The entirety of Michigan vs. Wayne, Ingham, and Washtenaw counties. Let’s hope the rest of the state wins out over the Blue 3! Praying for high turnout in Kent Co and depressed turnout in Wayne.

Michigan can go red this year. I feel it. And I darn well hope it does!

lansing quaker on November 1, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Don’t forget Genessee county and Grand Traverse county the Ann Arbor of the north. But you’re right, without those counties, MI would be solid red.

Goldenavatar on November 1, 2012 at 1:42 PM

The real odd thing about this is, of course, that Team Obama is airing ads in Michigan at all; what was presumed to have been a safe blue bet not too long ago suddenly finds itself on the roster of toss-ups

War of attrition. All flanks are under attack.

a capella on November 1, 2012 at 1:42 PM

Keep in mind plenty of people in Michigan including UAW members and retirees owned GM stock – THEY know what the bankruptcy did to them.

I have a feeling that this isn’t playing nearly as well as TeamO thinks it is, people aren’t the dunces they assume we are.

Northwoods on November 1, 2012 at 1:42 PM

Anyone know the size of the buy on this ad and where he’s running it? If it’s a small buy or if he’s only running it in the three blue counties, that would tell a lot.

TXUS on November 1, 2012 at 1:43 PM

They should buy every fiskar made and park them under and in every government building.

tom daschle concerned on November 1, 2012 at 1:41 PM

Yep, the ultimate IEDs.

TXUS on November 1, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Entirely predictable that Obama would be pandering to union auto workers in Michigan, the ethanol crowd in Iowa, etc, etc, etc x 57.

We need a President who put the entire country’s interests first.

cool breeze on November 1, 2012 at 1:44 PM

GOP pollster: Romney up in Ohio, closing the gap in Wisconsin

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/265355-gop-pollster-romney-up-in-ohio-closing-in-wisconsin

Conservative4ev on November 1, 2012 at 1:44 PM

…F L U K E !
J U G E A R S !
I’m from the blue state.

KOOLAID2 on November 1, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Unfortunately, this is why Michigan was always going to be tough sell for Romney. What Mitt said is easily twisted to the low information voters in 30 second sound bites…

jjjdad on November 1, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Entirely predictable that Obama would be pandering to union auto workers in Michigan, the ethanol crowd in Iowa, etc, etc, etc x 57.

We need a President who put the entire country’s interests first.

cool breeze on November 1, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Don’t expect Mitt to correct the ethanol boondoggle. He’s already on record as being in favor of it. Said so in the first debate.

a capella on November 1, 2012 at 1:49 PM

I’m pounding on every thing I can think of in Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Oregon, Maine, Virginia, Pennsylvania, if it’s swinging I’m pounding.

Let’s do it HotAirians.

We know what he’s like. Let’s take what we’ve learned and spread the word. Links to videos, pictures, stories, pasted text. Let’s use emails, comments on websites in those states. Tumblr, Pinterest, Instagram, FB, wherever you can impact the swing states.

Mobilize. Activate. Educate.

PappyD61 on November 1, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Obama loves the auto industry so much that he capriciously closed auto dealerships all across the country. My city is littered with empty lots.

Thank you preezy Obama!

tom daschle concerned on November 1, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Who is voting for Mitt Romney? AKA let’s save America.

Catholics – who have been challenged by Obama in their faith and beliefs.
Blacks – who are against same-sex marriages as being immoral and who have suffered most from Obama’s failures.
Whites – who see that Blacks are voting for Obama because he’s Black; Whites will vote for Whites.
Republicans – none of which voted for Obamacare.
Tea Party followers – who like in 2010 are throwing out Liberals and RHINOS again.
Coal Miners – who are taking Obama’s threats to end coal mining in America seriously.
Vehicle drivers – those who are faced with TWICE the cost of gas since Obama took office.
Jobless workers – those who have been waiting for Obama to create jobs, but hasn’t; many have left the job market.
Stock and Bond holders – many of whom were shafted when GM and Chrysler went bankrupt.
Small Business owners – who have repeatedly been ignored by Obama.
Citizens against Obamacare – because of the upcoming increase in taxes and excessive regulation if Obamacare is not repealed.
Jewish folks – because Obama has not visited Israel even once since taking office; and Obama’s bad attitude toward Israel.
Hispanics – those who know that Obama’s failure to create sufficient jobs is hurting the U.S. economy in a bad way.
Business people – millions who are hesitant to grow because of the vast uncertainty due to Obama and Obamacare.
Workers – facing layoffs, underemployment and a worsening economy; lower wages.
Shoppers – those who see prices rising and product size shrinking; inventories reduced.
Concerned Citizens – who see the Benghazi incident as an Obama failure and even treasonous (un-American).
Concerned Citizens – who see Obama’s foreign policies as dangerous and failures.
Persons of Faith – who recognize Obama’s forcing provision by them of contraception to employees as Constitutional violations.
Gun owners – who have always been against the extreme liberal ideas Obama has for gun control.
Local government officials – who see Obama’s federal encroachment as unacceptable.
Truckers – who see the high price of gas as an attack on their livelihood.
Oil business – that reject Obama’s curbs on off-shore drilling.
Oil industry workers – that recognize the Keystone pipeline as Obama’s failure to encourage jobs and job growth.
Americans – who view Obama’s encouragement of high oil prices and lowered U.S. oil production as favoring OPEC and Arabs.
Concerned Congressmen – those that recognize that Obama has no cogent foreign policy, which could prove to be dangerous.
Individuals
Homeowners – who have seen their life saving and equity go down the drain because Obama has done nothing on the economy.
Health care providers – doctors and others who see Obamacare as a threat to their income; and harmful extreme regulations.
Concerned citizens – that are very concerned about the U.S. deficit and Obama’s extreme radical uncontrolled spending.
Others – concerned about Obama’s illegal activities, Fast and Furious, Benghazi, not defending DOMA, condoning illegal aliens.
Abortion foes – object to Obama’s callous lack of concern for the unborn and Obama’s radical third trimester abortion views.
Concerned Americans – who have been outright lied to by Obama when he claimed his administration would be transparent.
Car manufacturers – those that have seen car sales drop with Obama’s bad economy and economic policies hurting sales.
Housing developers – who like many others have seen the Obama economy cripple home construction and lower profits.
Mormons – who support Mitt Romney as a person of faith, good character, and honest principles.
Economists – that have expressed encouragement that Romney’s experience and knowledge will lead to true hope and results.
Military – seeing that Obama’s cuts will endanger their ability to protect our country.
Independents – who already have provided a surge for Romney, are convinced that the past 4 years of Obama is enough.
Evangelicals – who organized the largest get-out-the-vote for conservatism ever, in their concerted effort to defeat Obama.
Conservatives – a majority in U.S., are pushing hard to take the Senate, Presidency and House for the good of America.
Skeptics – who 4 years ago were duped into believing in Obama’s Hope and Change that eventually came to nothing, just lies.

and millions, millions more against Obama and his lies and failures.

Vote Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan. Let’s make America strong and great again because we can!

AdrianS on November 1, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Romney as a business man stated a real truth, let it go through Bankruptcy, clean up the company debts and messes, and then re-organize into a leaner, better run company. But the union goons don’t want to give up their golden pensions and actually work for a living. So their plan is to get theirs and burn the company down, but hey, they got their promised jackpot. If the unions took the money they have pizzed down the democratic party political hole, they could take care of their members. Ironic that all these union leaders live high off the hog and hob nob with democratic politicians, while GM edges closer to the edge again.

stormridercx4 on November 1, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Use your lunch hour, while you’re stopped at traffic lights, while you’re in class, while you’re waiting in drive-thru.

Let’s not waste a minute.

For example, if Obama is using this ad in Michigan. Let’s remind via comments, etc. our friends in Michigan and Wisconsin about BLACK TEENAGE UNEMPLOYMENT.

How about taking the actual words of Romney and pasting them in comments or emails to local news sites in Michigan and where this ad is running. Obama has given us PLENTY OF AMMO the last four years now let’s use it. Craft the message in Military towns to the Benghazi leaving of the Navy seals.

Relentless we must be.

PappyD61 on November 1, 2012 at 1:59 PM

They have repeatedly misrepresented Romney’s position on the bailout and taken advantage of most people’s ignorance on the difference between bankruptcy reorganization and liquidation. They have no leg to stand on regarding Romney’s Jeep ad. Shameful.

SAZMD on November 1, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Sorry, but even you don’t have the terminology correct.

Under U.S. bankruptcy law, a corporation has two choices in bankruptcy: reorganization and liquidation. Romney never proposed liquidation. Instead, he proposed a different form of reorganization from Obama–one in which unions weren’t illegally bailed out.

BuckeyeSam on November 1, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Don’t miss this, it’s very well done: Come on Down to Crazy Barry’s for a Hot Deal on a New Chevy Volt

slickwillie2001 on November 1, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Thank you for this positive ad, Mr. President.

If Obama had bailed out Ford and Toyota as well, they could ALSO be doing as well as GM.

akaniku on November 1, 2012 at 2:00 PM

I wonder which bankruptcy is more orderly and likely to be equitable: one by established law, overseen by a bankruptcy court or a political one steered by Chicago thugs.

Oh, and I believe zero watched Benghazi as it unfolded and gave the order to stand down.

freedomfirst on November 1, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Sorry, but even you don’t have the terminology correct.

Under U.S. bankruptcy law, a corporation has two choices in bankruptcy: reorganization and liquidation. Romney never proposed liquidation. Instead, he proposed a different form of reorganization from Obama–one in which unions weren’t illegally bailed out.

BuckeyeSam on November 1, 2012 at 1:59 PM

You are correct of course. The truth is that little Bammie followed the Governor Romney plan, except he gave Government Motors to the greedy UAW and f’d the non-union workers.

slickwillie2001 on November 1, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Anyone know the size of the buy on this ad and where he’s running it? If it’s a small buy or if he’s only running it in the three blue counties, that would tell a lot.

TXUS on November 1, 2012 at 1:43 PM

Stolen from Ace:

Ohio – $30M total: Romney $18.4M, Obama $11.4M
Florida – $22M total: Romney $13.7M, Obama $8.4M
Virginia – $19.7M total: Romney $13.4M, Obama $6.3M
Pennsylvania – $13.7M total: Romney $10.8M, Obama $2.9M
Wisconsin – $10.8M total: Romney $7.8M, Obama $3M
Iowa – $9.8M total: Romney $6.7M, Obama $3M
Colorado – $8.9M total: Romney $5.5M, Obama $3.3M
Nevada – $8.5M total: Romney $5.6M, Obama $2.9M
New Hampshire – $7.0M total: Romney $4.7M, Obama $2.3M
Michigan – $5.7M total: Romney $5.2M, Obama $500k
Minnesota – $2.7M total: Romney $2.1M, Obama $550k
North Carolina – $3.4M total: Romney $1.9M, Obama $1.4M
New Mexico – $225k total: Romney $225k (ROF), Obama $0
Maine (Bangor) – $70k total: Romney $70k (ROF), Obama $0

Northwoods on November 1, 2012 at 2:03 PM

I wonder which bankruptcy/reorganization is more orderly and likely to be equitable: one by established law, overseen by a bankruptcy court or a political one steered by Chicago thugs.

Oh, and I believe zero watched Benghazi as it unfolded and gave the order to stand down.

freedomfirst on November 1, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Also, why would investors ever put faith in zero when he puts those with primary claims in reorganization subordinate to union membership?

He’s picking away at our national institutions, including the rules that help maintain order and predictability.

freedomfirst on November 1, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Northwoods on November 1, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Impressive! Too bad the money Obama is spending was borrowed from BofA. Thank you for the information.

thatsafactjack on November 1, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Thank you for this positive ad, Mr. President.

If Obama had bailed out Ford and Toyota as well, they could ALSO be doing as well as GM.

akaniku on November 1, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Selling autos at a loss and heading for bankruptcy is good to a loser like yourself?

tom daschle concerned on November 1, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Thank you for this positive ad, Mr. President.

If Obama had bailed out Ford and Toyota as well, they could ALSO be doing as well as GM.

akaniku on November 1, 2012 at 2:00 PM

You go with that dipsh!t. You do realize that GM isn’t on very sturdy financial footings right now, don’t you? The feds are buying GM products for their own use, so in essence we are on the hook for bailout money that will never be repaid and we continue to subsidize them with more tax dollars by buying them. You are an idiot.

D-fusit on November 1, 2012 at 2:14 PM

and I still don’t understand why the primary bond holders whom got screwed over have yet to file suit to get their money back. Can somebody explain that to me?

D-fusit on November 1, 2012 at 2:16 PM

If we had a free press in this country, Obama would never be able to get away with that because one (beside Fox) would actually call him on it. People only lie blatantly, when they can get away with it.

bflat879 on November 1, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Sorry, but even you don’t have the terminology correct.

Under U.S. bankruptcy law, a corporation has two choices in bankruptcy: reorganization and liquidation. Romney never proposed liquidation. Instead, he proposed a different form of reorganization from Obama–one in which unions weren’t illegally bailed out.

BuckeyeSam on November 1, 2012 at 1:59 PM

I understand the difference, and I stand by what I said. The point is that people hear bankrupt/bankruptcy and think “going out of business” (liquidation). They don’t understand reorganization is an option, and the MSM never informed them otherwise.

SAZMD on November 1, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Funny, they include a headline from the paper that endorsed Mitt.

Flange on November 1, 2012 at 1:23 PM

That needs to be 30 sec ad response by Mitt….”The paper that has now endorsed me is the source for Obama’s ad–folks in Michigan, you decide who is telling the truth”….

hillsoftx on November 1, 2012 at 2:33 PM

I doubt this will be very effective. You can’t blow smoke up someones backside, when they’ve been dealing with this directly. The more likely scenario, is that it opens the conversation about the Theft of Pensions from the Delphi workers, just because they weren’t union. I won’t even go into all the jobs Benedict Obama’s other policies have killed in Ohio!
Addendum on the fight against the Obama Enemy media: http://paratisiusa.blogspot.com/2012/09/an-open-letter-to-those-who-should-know.html?spref=tw

God Bless America!

paratisi on November 1, 2012 at 2:35 PM

I wonder which bankruptcy is more orderly and likely to be equitable: one by established law, overseen by a bankruptcy court or a political one steered by Chicago thugs.

Oh, and I believe zero watched Benghazi as it unfolded and gave the order to stand down.

freedomfirst on November 1, 2012 at 2:00 PM

.
Ask an Ex- Delphi employee who got totally fecked by the Commander in Winners and mostly losers. And whatever happened to NON-UAW Saturn???

Hmmm, couldnt they have given Saturn to the Italians too ?

UAW scores BIG.

FlaMurph on November 1, 2012 at 2:42 PM

Under U.S. bankruptcy law, a corporation has two choices in bankruptcy: reorganization and liquidation. Romney never proposed liquidation. Instead, he proposed a different form of reorganization from Obama–one in which unions weren’t illegally bailed out.

BuckeyeSam on November 1, 2012 at 1:59 PM

I understand the difference, and I stand by what I said. The point is that people hear bankrupt/bankruptcy and think “going out of business” (liquidation). They don’t understand reorganization is an option, and the MSM never informed them otherwise.

SAZMD on November 1, 2012 at 2:33 PM

You don’t seem to understand the context of the GM and Chrysler bankruptcies- and the reasons for Bush extending major loans to the automakers to ensure that ‘managed’ bankruptcy didn’t occur during his administration.

It’s easy to forget all the facts, but at the time virtually no one believed that the automakers would survive a managed bankruptcy process. A slow, winding process that left the future of the companies up in the air would mean that consumers would have very little reason to buy American cars, virtually killing their businesses before any resolution has been reached. If sales had slumped even further, it would become nearly impossible for any politician to justify any form of bailout.

A conservative auto exec and Romeny supporter, Bob Lutz, has written about this reality in the past. Romney’s position isn’t seen as credible by those close to the industry.

bayam on November 1, 2012 at 2:53 PM

It’s easy to forget all the facts, but at the time virtually no one believed that the automakers would survive a managed bankruptcy process. A slow, winding process that left the future of the companies up in the air would mean that consumers would have very little reason to buy American cars, virtually killing their businesses before any resolution has been reached.

There is another reason for AMericans not to buy these cars.

I’ll let comrade Yosef Stalin figure it out.

tom daschle concerned on November 1, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Ask an Ex- Delphi employee who got totally fecked by the Commander in Winners and mostly losers. And whatever happened to NON-UAW Saturn???

Hmmm, couldnt they have given Saturn to the Italians too ?

Delphi wasn’t the only supplier to fail- unionized auto suppliers went down when the industry was faltering as well. The role of the government wasn’t to bailout every player in the supply chain.

Do you have any hard evidence to back up your whining about Saturn in terms of sales numbers of brand reputation? Are you claiming that GM shut down too many brands- that more brands are better?

Fiat was the only company on the planet, outside of China, that had any interest in investing in Chrysler.

bayam on November 1, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Thank you for this positive ad, Mr. President.

If Obama had bailed out Ford and Toyota as well, they could ALSO be doing as well as GM.

akaniku on November 1, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Your Bishop impersonation is a complete fail.

Bitter Clinger on November 1, 2012 at 3:01 PM

“GM IS DEAD AND CHRYSLER IS OWNED BY AN ITALIAN COMPANY!!!!”
~BiteMe

Strike Hornet on November 1, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Give the home ice delivery business $50,000,000,000 that they don’t have to pay back and they’ll be roaring too… They could even start selling ice in Alaska… in the winter… So don’t act too proud of those jobs Barry, and give it time to settle… GM is burning through their stash.

RalphyBoy on November 1, 2012 at 6:59 PM