Romney gains 7 points in one month in PA

posted at 10:41 am on October 31, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

If you want to see what momentum looks like in what has suddenly become a battleground state, look no farther than the Franklin & Marshall poll data for Pennsylvania.  The CBS affiliate in Philadelphia reported the results this morning, showing Barack Obama with a four-point lead in a state that Democrats cannot afford to lose under any circumstances — but just might:

A new Franklin and Marshall Poll shows that Republican Mitt Romney is now within striking distance of President Obama in Pennsylvania.

Less than a week before election day, the Franklin and Marshall College Poll shows Romney now trailing Obama by just four percentage points among likely Pennsylvania voters – 45-percent to 49-percent, compared to a nine point deficit in a September F&M survey. Poll director Terry Madonna says Romney is closing in, but he may be running out of time.

We’ll get back to that in a moment.  Take a look at the graphic from the poll report, though, showing the history of the head-to-head polling in this race:

This is the first time in the series that Romney has gotten out of the 30s, jumping up 5 points in a month.  At the same time, Obama has lost a couple of points, which could be within the margin of error, Still, that’s a change of seven points in the gap in just a month, and shows why Team Obama has begun spending money in Pennsylvania playing on the defense.

Let’s look again at the two key indicators in this election.  Among independents, Romney has a sixteen point lead, 48/32.  Ten percent goes to “other,” with another 10% undecided.  Assuming most of the undecideds break away from the incumbent — as is the norm — Romney might easily score a majority.  Obama won this demo in 2008 by 19, 58/39.

Next, let’s look at the gender gap.  Obama has the advantage here, winning women by 14 points, but losing men by six for an overall +8.  In 2008, Obama won men by three and women by 18 for an overall +21 in the gender gap.

Finally, let’s take a look at the sample.  The D/R/I in this survey is D+13 at 50/37/11, which tracks fairly closely to party registration but not to turnout.  In 2008, the D/R/I was 44/37/18 in a Democratic wave election, and in 2010 it was 40/37/23.  If the turnout comes closer to 2010 with these internals, Obama may be in bigger trouble than this poll indicates.


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If ROMBO wins PA we will not go to bed early. Party time! The thin skinned One will need a teleprompter to help controll his stuttering.Just dreaming, “It was all Michelle’s fault!

I am not a racist on October 31, 2012 at 11:15 AM

The bigger problem is going to be all the executive orders and Presidential pardons that get passed between Election Day and Romney’s inauguration.

eyedoc on October 31, 2012 at 11:09 AM

EOs are not the problem. They can be rescinded. I’m guessing that Eric Holder will get a pardon for Fast and Furious and a whole slew of people will be given immunity for their part in the Benghazi cover-up.

Happy Nomad on October 31, 2012 at 11:16 AM

Someone just made a good point on Twitter.

“Not to be a wet blanket, but Mitt is in FL today, VA Thurs, then OH Fri. Clearly doesn’t think FL/VA locked, takes time from OH, CO, WI…”

Donald Draper on October 31, 2012 at 10:46 AM

Romney hitting the road with 100 surrogates.

JenWestin on October 31, 2012 at 11:16 AM

I think you’re missing the strategery. In Virginia, he’s doing a rally at a business in Roanoke- where the rat-eared wonder made his “you didn’t build that” speech. He’s also holding a rally in Virginia Beach where I’m sure he will remind Virginians that their livlihood is about to be gutted by sequestration. This is essentially closing the deal.

BTW, it is unclear if the rat-eared wonder will be returning to the Old Dominion before the election.

Happy Nomad on October 31, 2012 at 10:53 AM

Romney/Ryan have been amazing in their attention to the Shenandoah/Roanoke Valley and western Virginia.

My theory is that this is all to get the turnout. In this part of the world, we are so used to our votes not counting when put up against NOVA that turnout is often not very good. I think turnout all up and down the I-81 corridor will be amazing on November 6th.

Greyledge Gal on October 31, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Bishop on October 31, 2012 at 11:09 AM

So is this really the crux of your strategy one week from the election? That people should vote for obama because the other guy’s wife has a horse?

Ronnie on October 31, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Let me try that again:

Adjust the turnout model to match 2008 and that puts Romney up by 1%.
Adjust the turnout model to match 2010 and that puts Romney up by 5%.

steebo77 on October 31, 2012 at 11:09 AM

…Thanks steebo !…I thought I had been drinking again!

KOOLAID2 on October 31, 2012 at 11:17 AM

steebo77 on October 31, 2012 at 11:09 AM

Is that just correcting to a D+7/D+3 split or is that with taking the Democratic oversample and shifting it to Independents where it belongs?

The undersampling of Indies here is every bit as egregious as the oversampling of Democrats. Still an unfair moving of the chains for Obama considering they’re breaking to Romney by huge numbers…

Gingotts on October 31, 2012 at 11:18 AM

Without being able to see the full crosstabs, to arrive at the 48-44 topline based on the given D/R/I of 50/37/11, a plausible scenario would be Dems breaking 87-11 for Obama and Republicans 93-5 for Romney. We know that indies are 48-32 for Romney, with 10% undecided.

Using that information and simply substituting the 2008 D/R/I (44/37/18), Romney would be up 2.0%.

Then assigning 2/3 of undecided indies to Romney (which is historically defensible), that would put Romney up 3.2%

So, according to this poll, even with 2008-level turnout, Romney wins Pennsylvania by 2-3%.

steebo77 on October 31, 2012 at 11:18 AM

Adjust the turnout model to match 2008 and that puts Romney up by 1%.
Adjust the turnout model to match 2010 and that puts Romney up by 5%.

steebo77 on October 31, 2012 at 11:09 AM

The 2008 turnout model is NOT going to happen this year. We already know that based on early voting #s, enthusiasm gap, etc.

Combine that with the fact that Philly turnout is likely depressed by Sandy and Romney wins PA quite easily.

Norwegian on October 31, 2012 at 11:18 AM

The WAR on the 47%!!1eleven!

LoganSix on October 31, 2012 at 11:18 AM

Is that just correcting to a D+7/D+3 split or is that with taking the Democratic oversample and shifting it to Independents where it belongs?

The undersampling of Indies here is every bit as egregious as the oversampling of Democrats. Still an unfair moving of the chains for Obama considering they’re breaking to Romney by huge numbers…

Gingotts on October 31, 2012 at 11:18 AM

That was taking the actual D/R/I from 2008 and 2010. No way will indies only make up 11% of the electorate.

steebo77 on October 31, 2012 at 11:20 AM

Ann Romney has an expensive horse.

I suggest you homophobes remember that little tidbit on voting day.

Hey, I have 7 expensive horses and I’m very middle class. I’m also a Republican. Democrats don’t understand horses … they prefer asses.

Turtledove on October 31, 2012 at 11:20 AM

Bishop on October 31, 2012 at 10:51 AM

..what’s TFDAP mean?

The War Planner on October 31, 2012 at 11:20 AM

Greyledge Gal on October 31, 2012 at 11:17 AM

No doubt, the 81 areas, will go solidly for Romney.

Bmore on October 31, 2012 at 11:20 AM

Can anyone on here tell me if there is anything still hanging over Bill Clinton’s head that would be subject to Presidential pardon?

Could the real reason that Clinton is out there campaigning for I Won, who he knows is a disaster, be that Obama has promised to pardon him? Maybe that would allow Clinton to get back his law license in Arkansas?

Greyledge Gal on October 31, 2012 at 11:21 AM

Ronnie on October 31, 2012 at 11:17 AM

BISHOP! Hee hee…

Bat Chain Puller on October 31, 2012 at 11:21 AM

EOs are not the problem. They can be rescinded. I’m guessing that Eric Holder will get a pardon for Fast and Furious and a whole slew of people will be given immunity for their part in the Benghazi cover-up.

Happy Nomad on October 31, 2012 at 11:16 AM

Not if he isn’t charged with anything until after Romney is sworn in and takes office. The POTUS cannot pardon someone who has not been charged let alone convicted.

SWalker on October 31, 2012 at 11:21 AM

If Obama flips Hillary and McCain the bird in his acceptance speech when he wins, what derogatory gesture can we expect from him when he looses?

filetandrelease on October 31, 2012 at 11:22 AM

So is this really the crux of your strategy one week from the election? That people should vote for obama because the other guy’s wife has a horse?

Ronnie on October 31, 2012 at 11:17 AM

I think it’s a fair issue.

I cannot in good conscience vote for someone who marries a woman so self-absorbed that she actually bought a horse while average Americans are working hard just to put food on their families.

Bishop on October 31, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Is the long national nightmare finally over?

Maybe I won’t throw my vote in Maryland away to Godzilla this year as planned after all.

OCTOBER 2012

Is most prepared to fix our economic problems?

Obama: 42%
Romney: 47%

Now looking AHEAD, do you think that A YEAR FROM NOW, YOU and YOUR FAMILY will be
better off financially than you are now, worse off, or about the same as you are now?
34% said Better off
7% said Worse off
43% said About the Same
16% said They Don’t know

If Governor Romney wins Pennsylvania does that give him the Mandate?

DeathtotheSwiss on October 31, 2012 at 11:23 AM

This all boils down to Obama voters who are at this point contemplating if Obama is worth standing in line for.

I think they will stay home in large numbers. Answering a question on the phone to a pollster is far different then putting in the work of going down and voting.

Is Obama worth the trouble?

Not to me he isn’t.

portlandon on October 31, 2012 at 11:23 AM

Bishop, how much do you think horses cost exactly? Just curious. Because a lot of low-income families own horses.

I mean, I know you’re just trolling, but if you’re going to do it let’s at least do it well. I mean, if you’re going to use that argument then you have to know it can be better applied to President Obama. Surely, you must know that, right? Or do you just like making fun of people with diseases?

DeathtotheSwiss on October 31, 2012 at 11:26 AM

Not if he isn’t charged with anything until after Romney is sworn in and takes office. The POTUS cannot pardon someone who has not been charged let alone convicted.

SWalker on October 31, 2012 at 11:21 AM

Exactly. I stated this a while ago.

Obama’s stonewalling on this might very well backfire in a big way because he won’t be able to pardon anyone ever F&F. Their incompetence may yet come back to destroy them all.

Skwor on October 31, 2012 at 11:26 AM

Romney hitting the road with 100 surrogates.

JenWestin on October 31, 2012 at 11:16 AM

..thanks! That is an awesome link! Here is just a small excerpt to show how Romney’s campaign is closing big with an incredible line-up:

The tour starts off with a rally in West Chester, Ohio, the hometown of House Speaker John Boehner. Aside from Boehner, featured guests that day include former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Sen. John McCain of Arizona.

The War Planner on October 31, 2012 at 11:27 AM

This all boils down to Obama voters who are at this point contemplating if Obama is worth standing in line for.

I think they will stay home in large numbers. Answering a question on the phone to a pollster is far different then putting in the work of going down and voting.

Is Obama worth the trouble?

Not to me he isn’t.

portlandon on October 31, 2012 at 11:23 AM

This is an excellent point and this is why they’ve been pushing early voting like the end of the world will come if you don’t vote early. Even with that, the early voting numbers are down for them compared to 2008. Sorry Barry, the country just isn’t that into you.

MobileVideoEngineer on October 31, 2012 at 11:28 AM

October 26, 2012

Rasmussen Reports

The U.S. Senate race in Pennsylvania is now essentially a tie. The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Voters in the Keystone State finds incumbent Democratic Senator Bob Casey, Jr. with 46% of the vote, while Republican Tom Smith attracts 45%. Nine percent (9%) are still undecided. Pennsylvania now moves from Leans Democrat to a Toss-Up in the Rasmussen Reports Senate Balance of Power Rankings. Prior to this survey, support for Casey has held steady at 49%…Ninety percent (90%) of likely Pennsylvania voters are certain they will vote on Election Day. Among these voters, it’s Smith 47%, Casey 46%. Smith draws support from 87% of Republicans in Pennsylvania and leads 41% to 31% among voters not affiliated with either of the major political parties. Casey, the son of a popular former governor and a one-time state official himself, is backed by 83% of Democrats.

Night Owl on October 31, 2012 at 11:28 AM

I think it’s a fair issue.

I cannot in good conscience vote for someone who marries a woman so self-absorbed that she actually bought a horse while average Americans are working hard just to put food on their families.

Bishop on October 31, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Yeah, in PA, I’m sure it’s right up there with coal, Libya, unemployment…
No doubt you’re swinging lots of votes. LMAO.

Ronnie on October 31, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Bishop, how much do you think horses cost exactly? Just curious. Because a lot of low-income families own horses.

I mean, I know you’re just trolling, but if you’re going to do it let’s at least do it well. I mean, if you’re going to use that argument then you have to know it can be better applied to President Obama. Surely, you must know that, right? Or do you just like making fun of people with diseases?

DeathtotheSwiss on October 31, 2012 at 11:26 AM

You do realize that horses can run anywhere from a few hundred to hundreds of thousands of dollars, right? And yes, Bishop is just trolling for those who are either ignorant, or not paying attention. It’s a very popular spectator sport around here to watch and see who Bishop clowns.

SWalker on October 31, 2012 at 11:29 AM

Yeah, in PA, I’m sure it’s right up there with coal, Libya, unemployment…
No doubt you’re swinging lots of votes. LMAO.

Ronnie on October 31, 2012 at 11:28 AM

So you’re going to vote for a horse-owner? That makes you a homophobe.

Again, nice.

Bishop on October 31, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Yeah, Bishop is simply playing the role of chumpthreads and the other trolls since they won’t touch this thread.

MobileVideoEngineer on October 31, 2012 at 11:31 AM

No doubt, the 81 areas, will go solidly for Romney.

Bmore on October 31, 2012 at 11:20 AM

I’m not worried about it going red – but I think this will drive many more Republicans/leaners to the polls than in 2008. :)

Greyledge Gal on October 31, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Bishop is playing a horse card….

runner on October 31, 2012 at 11:33 AM

If Obama flips Hillary and McCain the bird in his acceptance speech when he wins, what derogatory gesture can we expect from him when he looses?

filetandrelease on October 31, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Where does he go from GD America?

faraway on October 31, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Surely, you must know that, right? Or do you just like making fun of people with diseases?

DeathtotheSwiss on October 31, 2012 at 11:26 AM

Ann’s only disease is the disease of greed. She could have used her horse-money to make sure college students have bread on their table, instead she gallivants around on her expensive mare while rodeo clowns make fools of themselves for her enjoyment.

Bishop on October 31, 2012 at 11:34 AM

So you’re going to vote for a horse-owner? That makes you a homophobe.

Bishop on October 31, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Apparently you use horses differently than most people.

Ronnie on October 31, 2012 at 11:35 AM

DeathtotheSwiss on October 31, 2012 at 11:26 AM

Ann’s only disease is the disease of greed. She could have used her horse-money to make sure college students have bread on their table, instead she gallivants around on her expensive mare while rodeo clowns make fools of themselves for her enjoyment.

Bishop on October 31, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Yup, besides, every decent American knows Ann Romney’s proper place is barefoot, pregnant and down in the bunker…

SWalker on October 31, 2012 at 11:36 AM

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Bishop on October 31, 2012 at 11:36 AM

Not if he isn’t charged with anything until after Romney is sworn in and takes office. The POTUS cannot pardon someone who has not been charged let alone convicted.

SWalker on October 31, 2012 at 11:21 AM

The President can take prosecution of Holder and all the other criminals of his administration by Presidential Pardon or amnesty. It wouldn’t halt Congressional inquiry but it would end any hope of prosecution.

Happy Nomad on October 31, 2012 at 11:36 AM

Apparently you use horses differently than most people.

Ronnie on October 31, 2012 at 11:35 AM

See? Even your comments are sullied by inherent racism and misogyny.

I rest my case.

Bishop on October 31, 2012 at 11:37 AM

In 2008, the D/R/I was 44/37/18
In 2010 it was 40/37/23

Well I’m a little confused. So R37 is about max? If that is true then with the enthusiasm gap and hard breaking indies, will be the only way.
But I think it is very possible that will be precisely what happens.

Al Hall on October 31, 2012 at 11:09 AM

And yet, in 2010, the state went completely red. Governor, State House and Senate. A LOT of democrats are not happy with their party.

Night Owl on October 31, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Skwor on October 31, 2012 at 11:26 AM

nope, but you are wrong, nixon was never indicted and he was pardoned. carter pardoned the draft dodgers and the majority of them were never charged. its not necessary to be charged/indicted/convicted for a president to pardon your criminal actions.

chasdal on October 31, 2012 at 11:40 AM

The President can take prosecution of Holder and all the other criminals of his administration by Presidential Pardon or amnesty. It wouldn’t halt Congressional inquiry but it would end any hope of prosecution.

Happy Nomad on October 31, 2012 at 11:36 AM

The President cannot pardon anyone who has not been charged or convicted.

Definitions:

A pardon is an executive order vacating a conviction.
A commutation is the mitigation of the sentence of someone currently serving a sentence for a crime pursuant to a conviction, without vacating the conviction itself.

SWalker on October 31, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Bishop on October 31, 2012 at 11:31 AM

But it’s a dancing horse!

Cindy Munford on October 31, 2012 at 11:42 AM

Bishop hates black horses

faraway on October 31, 2012 at 11:42 AM

Bishop is playing a horse card….

runner on October 31, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Seems to be working….a nibble, not a full strike.

a capella on October 31, 2012 at 11:42 AM

Ann Romney has an expensive horse.

I suggest you homophobes remember that little tidbit on voting day.

Bishop on October 31, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Mitt Romney put his dog on top of his car 30 years ago.

Something for you racists to mull over before you cast your ballot.

Red Cloud on October 31, 2012 at 10:52 AM

Bain Capital closed a steel mill two years after Mitt Romney had left.

Seven years later, a woman died of cancer.

Ponder that, misogynistic wingnuts.

Solaratov on October 31, 2012 at 11:43 AM

D’s oversampled and I’s undersampled.
Average the D’s of 2008/2010 and you get D=42.

Recalculate:
Place the 8 oversampled D’s back into the I pool.
Answer:
Romney 46.3, Obama 44.6

Split the remaining undecided the same as the I pool.
Answer:
Romney 51.8, Obama 48.2

Winning!

Carnac on October 31, 2012 at 11:43 AM

SWalker on October 31, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Yeah, they aren’t off the hook. Now if Rudy gets the AG spot………

a capella on October 31, 2012 at 11:44 AM

SWalker on October 31, 2012 at 11:41 AM

you are wrong, the pardon can be given to anyone who has committed a criminal act. the acceptance of the pardon is considered an admission of guilt and conviction. as i stated previously, nixon was not indicted, tried or convicted. the vast majority of the draft dodgers were not indicted, tried or convicted. but they were all pardoned. there are plenty more examples, those are the two that most have heard of.

chasdal on October 31, 2012 at 11:44 AM

I have secret video of Bishop holding several black horses captive.

faraway on October 31, 2012 at 11:45 AM

Bishop on October 31, 2012 at 11:36 AM

Don’t forget: catch and release rules…

Kraken on October 31, 2012 at 11:46 AM

Bishop hates black horses

faraway on October 31, 2012 at 11:42 AM

Whatever, entomologist.

Bishop on October 31, 2012 at 11:47 AM

hehe

faraway on October 31, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Okay, Hotair.com why don’t you have an ignore feature? Bishop is cute and all, but he’s clearly just trolling. I don’t care if you don’t want to ban him for mocking Anne Romney or trolling the commenters, BUT at least give me the option not to have to read his nonsense.

I’m tired of little children acting out whenever they don’t get their way. I’ve been out of the loop too long and don’t automatically know who all the trolls are. At least give me the option to “tag” them with tracking devices so I’ll know to skip past their garbage.

I’m just saying…Christmas is coming up.

DeathtotheSwiss on October 31, 2012 at 11:50 AM

as i stated previously, nixon was not indicted, tried or convicted. the vast majority of the draft dodgers were not indicted, tried or convicted. but they were all pardoned. there are plenty more examples, those are the two that most have heard of.

chasdal on October 31, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Nixon was the subject of 8 straight months of Congressional investigation, that technically constitutes an indictment. Draft Dodging isn’t something that requires a trial or conviction it’s more akin to failure to appear, you either show up when ordered or you are guaranteed a conviction for failing to appear.

SWalker on October 31, 2012 at 11:50 AM

I think it’s a fair issue.

I cannot in good conscience vote for someone who marries a woman so self-absorbed that she actually bought a horse while average Americans are working hard just to put food on their families.

Bishop on October 31, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Well it’s a good thing Michelle Antoinette didn’t buy a horse, Barry would have eaten it! And this while ordinary ‘Mericans are starving in the streets. I hear they’re having to boil old shoes in Detroit and then there’s this guy.

Oldnuke on October 31, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Greyledge Gal on October 31, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Nor do I. Fairfax County on the other hand is problematic.

Bmore on October 31, 2012 at 11:51 AM

I’m just saying…Christmas is coming up.

DeathtotheSwiss on October 31, 2012 at 11:50 AM

How about we just ban you instead?

SWalker on October 31, 2012 at 11:52 AM

DeathtotheSwiss on October 31, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Would you care to have a copy of my troll list. Its very short these days. Bishop didn’t make the cut.

Bmore on October 31, 2012 at 11:53 AM

DeathtotheSwiss on October 31, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Hey. I like the Swiss!

Cheese, Knives, Miss, Chocolate. The Swiss make some good crap.

portlandon on October 31, 2012 at 11:54 AM

Some say that Bishop is a closet thespian.

faraway on October 31, 2012 at 11:54 AM

…then there’s this guy.

Oldnuke on October 31, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Peel them off the road after they’ve been hit a few times. Makes great jerky.

Can’t do that with a horse…

Kraken on October 31, 2012 at 11:55 AM

DeathtotheSwiss on October 31, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Where’s the Christian love, fellowship and forgiveness for a poor sinner? As you said, it’s Christmas time.

Bishop on October 31, 2012 at 11:56 AM

Bishop on October 31, 2012 at 11:56 AM

He probably doesn’t like the game either.

Bmore on October 31, 2012 at 11:58 AM

I really don’t like the fate of the nation resting on Philadelphia and its suburbs.

SouthernGent on October 31, 2012 at 10:59 AM

Those of us who live in the western half of Pennsylvania really hate it. I’ve voted in every presidential election since 1980; there’s nothing that makes me madder than seeing a sea of red in all the counties except Philadelphia County and the four or so counties surrounding it and hearing that it means the state has gone for the Dem candidate, whoever it is or was.

PatriotGal2257 on October 31, 2012 at 11:58 AM

Burn him.

faraway on October 31, 2012 at 11:58 AM

Some say that Bishop is a closet thespian.

faraway on October 31, 2012 at 11:54 AM

Whoa… Calling somebody a thespian is pretty insulting… But it’s mighty low to call them a closet thespian. Really, whose business is it what Bishop does in the privacy of his own closet… o_O

SWalker on October 31, 2012 at 11:58 AM

SWalker on October 31, 2012 at 11:50 AM

you are wrong, draft dodgers cant be punished unless they are tried, its due friggin’ process. and a congressional investigation isnt “technically” an indictment either. an indictment or articles of impeachment are specific legal documents required to proceed to trial or impeachment.

chasdal on October 31, 2012 at 11:58 AM

I’m guessing that Eric Holder will get a pardon for Fast and Furious and a whole slew of people will be given immunity for their part in the Benghazi cover-up.

Happy Nomad on October 31, 2012 at 11:16 AM

You have to be convicted before you can be pardoned. Nevertheless, it is not unlike Obama to try to establish the precedent of preemptive Presidential pardons.

Finbar on October 31, 2012 at 11:59 AM

SWalker on October 31, 2012 at 11:58 AM

I used to fantasize about being alone in a closet with a couple of thespians, but I don’t remember a Bishop being there…

Kraken on October 31, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Okay, Hotair.com why don’t you have an ignore feature?

they do. it’s called “the green room”.
oh, you said ignore, not ignored. my bad.

runner on October 31, 2012 at 12:02 PM

holy crap, you people need to read your friggin’ Constitution

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

not one word requiring a conviction, indictment, etc, etc. and precedent has been set, Nixon, draft dodgers just to name a two.

chasdal on October 31, 2012 at 12:03 PM

but I don’t remember a Bishop being there…

Kraken on October 31, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Well, apparent at least one of the Queens you thought were thespians was actually a Bishop… o_O

SWalker on October 31, 2012 at 12:04 PM

It’s amazing what’s out there on the interwebs. We should all chip in and get one for you know who…

Kraken on October 31, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Matthew Broderick, famous liberal moonbat, has a horse.

slickwillie2001 on October 31, 2012 at 12:06 PM

It’s a good thing Obozo has a lock on the 7 states he’s added since he took office, he desperately needs them. How frustrating it would be if he had to focus on only the EV from the 50 states that were there when he took office; it’d be a massacre. Oh wait…

GOOD RIDDENCE YOU WORTHLESS A$$CLOWN!!! My hope is that you spend years of your retirement in a secluded cell where you belong for acts of treason and derliction of duty.

mrmagoo on October 31, 2012 at 12:08 PM

Matthew Broderick, famous liberal moonbat, has is a horses ass.

slickwillie2001 on October 31, 2012 at 12:06 PM

snicker snicker…

SWalker on October 31, 2012 at 12:08 PM

cannot in good conscience vote for someone who marries a woman so self-absorbed that she actually bought a horse while average Americans are working hard just to put food on their families.

Bishop on October 31, 2012 at 11:22 AM

.
Why do you hate horses so much?
They have feelings as well.

FlaMurph on October 31, 2012 at 12:09 PM

I also often wonder why there is not an ignore feature.
would really clean up the comments.

bishop you are a donkey.

mrks on October 31, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Uninstalling Obama……… ████████████████▒ 98% complete.

Ronnie on October 31, 2012 at 10:58 AM

So stolen, that is!
Thanks…

massrighty on October 31, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Well, apparent at least one of the Queens you thought were thespians was actually a Bishop…

SWalker on October 31, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Years and years of deep therapy laid waste by a single, thoughtless comment.

mommie…

Kraken on October 31, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Pennsylvania owes “us” for Arlen Spectre and John Murtha…

Romney winning PA pays a lot of outstanding debts…

Khun Joe on October 31, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Some say that Bishop is a closet thespian.

faraway on October 31, 2012 at 11:54 AM

Leave religion out of it.

Ronnie on October 31, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Bishop is doing a job today that (most) Americans won’t do. And possibly also hitting the sauce a little early…

bofh on October 31, 2012 at 12:17 PM

I just keep wondering what’s up with Intrade.

rebuzz on October 31, 2012 at 11:09 AM

Euroweenies.

Solaratov on October 31, 2012 at 12:18 PM

DeathtotheSwiss on October 31, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Did you not ponder what the impact of your proposed ignore button would be, before you posted?

Do you not see the downside of such a feature

massrighty on October 31, 2012 at 12:18 PM

Well, apparent at least one of the Queens you thought were thespians was actually a Bishop…

SWalker on October 31, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Years and years of deep therapy laid waste by a single, thoughtless comment.

mommie…

Kraken on October 31, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Yes, but it explains the enuresis and stuttering…

bofh on October 31, 2012 at 12:19 PM

How about we just ban you instead?

SWalker on October 31, 2012 at 11:52 AM

I didn’t know you were part of the staff, how about you calm down Tex. I didn’t ask for anyone to get banned numbskull. I asked for an “ignore” feature since my eyes are far too efficient to do it themselves.

Would you care to have a copy of my troll list. Its very short these days. Bishop didn’t make the cut.

Bmore on October 31, 2012 at 11:53 AM

That would be lovely.

Cheese, Knives, Miss, Chocolate. The Swiss make some good crap.

portlandon on October 31, 2012 at 11:54 AM

They have a fine school system and economy as well. Too good to be true. Too good to be true.

Where’s the Christian love, fellowship and forgiveness for a poor sinner? As you said, it’s Christmas time.

Bishop on October 31, 2012 at 11:56 AM

I’m an Atheist, so nowhere to be seen. Also, you misquoted me. I said that Christmas was coming, not that it was Christmas time. You must be thinking of the song. Besides, Christianity teaches that you must “Leave the presence of a fool, Or you will not discern words of knowledge”, so if I were a Christian I’d have to log off my computer everytime I saw you post. That’s fairly inconvenient for me.

DeathtotheSwiss on October 31, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Ann Romney has an expensive horse.

I suggest you homophobes remember that little tidbit on voting day.

Bishop on October 31, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Did I hear they actually tied that horse to the roof of an SUV once when the were hauling all of their illegal Bain money to an offshore bank account?

hawkdriver on October 31, 2012 at 10:54 AM

Offshore? The way I heard it, they drove straight through to Switzerland in 12 hours.

tom on October 31, 2012 at 12:21 PM

mrks on October 31, 2012 at 12:09 PM

You’ll get over it.

In these dark times and with an election looming, a man needs to find a bit of distraction where he can. Besides, these lures have been getting rusty since Palin left the scene.

Bishop on October 31, 2012 at 12:22 PM

Yes, but it explains the enuresis and stuttering…

bofh on October 31, 2012 at 12:19 PM

O-o-o-oh y-y-y-yeah! Well, u-u-u-u-upyouresis, b-b-b-bub!

Kraken on October 31, 2012 at 12:22 PM

Did you not ponder what the impact of your proposed ignore button would be, before you posted?

Do you not see the downside of such a feature

massrighty on October 31, 2012 at 12:18 PM

It is quite common on forums, I think it’d be quite useful and popular here. I’m not saying it couldn’t or wouldn’t be abused. However, trolls who never contribute to conversation and always spew garbage to rile up earnest conservatives aren’t worth listening to. I’d much rather listen to an honest occupier than a troll and I would never ever ignore someone who was trying to honestly convey their ideas, no matter how much I disagreed with them.

I just want the convenience of the tool so that I may make the choice of who is trolling and who is being serious. Is that wrong? I suspect that, it may be asking a lot considering the season, but is it wrong? I don’t think so.

DeathtotheSwiss on October 31, 2012 at 12:25 PM

DeathtotheSwiss on October 31, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Agnostic myself, but I will admit to being quite the Christmas reveler; the songs, the gifts, the spiked eggnog.

Do you ever feel embarrassed when you catch yourself saying “Goda**it!”? I know I do.

Bishop on October 31, 2012 at 12:27 PM

since Palin left the scene.

Bishop on October 31, 2012 at 12:22 PM

Palin is all seen, all knowing.

faraway on October 31, 2012 at 12:30 PM

I didn’t ask for anyone to get banned numbskull.
DeathtotheSwiss on October 31, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Awe, but you did, you just played is like you knew it wasn’t going to happen. But you most assuredly did make the request by subtle implication.

I don’t care if you don’t want to ban him
DeathtotheSwiss on October 31, 2012 at 11:50 AM

SWalker on October 31, 2012 at 12:31 PM

PresedentiaL Pardons: try this link for what it is worth, not bad reading: http://people.howstuffworks.com/presidential-pardon.htm

IT does appear that one can receive a pardon for crimes committed, but not yet charge for. However, would the Democrats willing allow the perception of wrong doing in F&F and/or Benghazi with a pardon given before any true investigations? That can of worms will certainly cause major hearturn with a lot of people and forever taint the Democrats. They will probably hope that it was all election year chest thumpinig and go away after the election, regardless of who won.

seymour01 on October 31, 2012 at 12:32 PM

Agnostic myself, but I will admit to being quite the Christmas reveler; the songs, the gifts, the spiked eggnog.

Do you ever feel embarrassed when you catch yourself saying “Goda**it!”? I know I do.

Bishop on October 31, 2012 at 12:27 PM

Nope, I say it all the time…..of course I am a
church goer..have to repent you know……

ToddPA on October 31, 2012 at 12:32 PM

Mitt Romney put his dog on top of his car 30 years ago.

Something for you racists to mull over before you cast your ballot.

Red Cloud on October 31, 2012 at 10:52 AM

SEAMUS!

Thank God, I was having withdrawals…..

Tenwheeler on October 31, 2012 at 12:33 PM

seen=seeing (a voice corrected me)

faraway on October 31, 2012 at 12:33 PM

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