Quotes of the day

posted at 10:57 pm on October 31, 2012 by Allahpundit

“It’s a foretaste of things to come,” Princeton University professor Michael Oppenheimer told CNN. “Bigger storms and higher sea levels” will pile on to create a “growing threat” in the coming decades.

And New York, he warned, “is highly vulnerable.”…

Princeton’s Oppenheimer, a professor of geosciences, recently modeled the effect of climate change on storm surges for the New York area.

In a paper published by Nature in February, he and three colleagues concluded that the “storm of the century” would become the storm of “every twenty years or less.”

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New York isn’t known for its hurricanes. At least, it never has been before. But after Irene in 2011 and Sandy in 2012, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said he joked to President Obama that “we have a 100-year flood every two years now.” Is it possible that climate change has somehow turned the Big Apple—and the northeast in general—into a hurricane hotspot?

Possible, perhaps. But the atmospheric scientists I’ve talked to say it would be misguided to conclude based on those two storms that the northeast is becoming a common destination for tropical cyclones…

“Every hurricane is a fluke, to some degree,” says Sobel. By that he means that any given storm’s path is determined more by the specific weather conditions at the time than by underlying climatic factors. While the connection between global warming and heat waves is relatively straightforward, the links between climate change and hurricanes are complex.

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The hedge expressed by journalists is that many variables go into creating a big storm, so the size of Hurricane Sandy, or any specific storm, cannot be attributed to climate change. That’s true, and it’s based on good science. However, that statement does not mean that we cannot say that climate change is making storms bigger. It is doing just that—a statement also based on good science, and one that the insurance industry is embracing, by the way…

Here’s where climate change comes in. The atmospheric pattern that sent the Jet Stream south is colloquially known as a “blocking high”—a big pressure center stuck over the very northern Atlantic Ocean and southern Arctic Ocean. And what led to that? A climate phenomenon called the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO)—essentially, the state of atmospheric pressure in that region. This state can be positive or negative, and it had changed from positive to negative two weeks before Sandy arrived. The climate kicker? Recent research by Charles Greene at Cornell University and other climate scientists has shown that as more Arctic sea ice melts in the summer—because of global warming—the NAO is more likely to be negative during the autumn and winter. A negative NAO makes the Jet Stream more likely to move in a big, wavy pattern across the U.S., Canada and the Atlantic, causing the kind of big southward dip that occurred during Sandy.

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At first blush, it would seem that warmer seas would fuel more and stronger hurricanes, because tropical storms typically form and intensify when waters are at their peak temperatures. But in this case, nature is more complicated, and while warmer oceans may be more favorable in a warmer world, other factors appear to temper hurricane activity…

Here were the paper’s main conclusions:

After studying past and present hurricane data they did not conclusively find any detectable human influence on hurricane activity.

Studies indicate more likely than not an increase in the numbers of the more intense hurricanes globally, perhaps 2 to 11 percent by 2100.

Scientists also found increased evidence that, globally, the number of tropical storms is likely to decrease by 6 to 34 percent by 2100.

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When it comes to policy responses, though, it doesn’t really matter exactly what role man-made climate change plays in amplifying storms. For one thing, we know that global sea level rise is happening, and we know that’s large due to man-made warming. And sea level in the Northeast seems to be rising three to four times faster than they are globally, which puts cities like New York—which has more than 580 miles of coastline—at enhanced risk. Storm surges and coastal flooding, rather than high-speed winds or drenching rain, proved to be Sandy’s real bane, with more than 12 ft. of flood water filling New York’s Battery Tunnel. Every subway tunnel beneath New York’s East River was flooded, leaving the system “devastated,” in the words of Metropolitan Transit Authority chairman Joseph Lhota…

We don’t demand absolute certainty before we take action in foreign policy, the economy or health. We’d be fools to wait until there’s perfect scientific consensus on the role that global warming may be playing in tropical storms before we take action to prepare for both. “Anyone who says there’s hasn’t been a dramatic change in weather patterns has been denying reality,” New York Governor Andrew Cuomo told reporters today.

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NOAA’s Martin Hoerling rejects ‘Frankenstorm’ climate link: ‘This is not some spell conjured upon us by great external forces….unless you believe in the monster flicks of Universal Studios fame!’ — Meteorologist Hoerling of NOAA: ‘The immediate cause is most likely little more than the coincidental alignment of a tropical storm with an extratropical storm. Both frequent W. Atlantic in Oct….nothing unusual with that’…

Frankenscience: ‘Sandy doesn’t tell us anything about climate change’ — Prof. Pielke Jr.: ‘We’ve done long-term trends with respect to hurricane damage in the United States, and it’s very safe to say that regardless of how [Sandy] plays out, there’s a century-long time series with no trend in it — and that’s in damage, the number of landfalls, or the intensity of storms at landfall. So, if you are looking for signals of long-term climate change, focusing in on any one storm is the wrong way to go about it to begin with’…

Climatologist Dr. Patrick Michaels on Sandy: ‘It’s also consistent with a planet with colder temperatures as well as one with warmer ones’ — Michaels: ‘More important, events like this are inevitable on a planet that has an ocean with the geography of the Atlantic (meaning a Gulf Stream-like feature), a large north-south continent on its western margin without a transverse mountain range to inhibit the merger of tropical warmth with polar cold, and four seasons in the temperate latitudes’

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I was schooled in the far-reaching changes under way several years ago by Eskimos in Alaska, who told me of their amazement at seeing changes in their Arctic village — from melting permafrost to robins (for which their Inupiat language has no word), and even a (shivering) porcupine. If we can’t see that something extraordinary is going on in the world around us, we’re in trouble…

There are no easy solutions, but we may need to invest in cleaner energy, impose a carbon tax or other curbs on greenhouse gases, and, above all, rethink how we can reduce the toll of a changing climate. For example, we may not want to rebuild in some coastal areas that have been hammered by Sandy…

Along with eight million others, the Kristofs have lost power, so I’ve been sending Twitter messages on my iPhone by candlelight — an odd juxtaposition that feels like a wake-up call. In the candlelit aftermath of a future hurricane, I’m guessing, we’ll look back at the silence about climate in the 2012 election and ask: “What were they thinking?”

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Via Mediaite.


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I bid you all goodnight. Its been a pleasure, as always. See you soon.

thatsafactjack on November 1, 2012 at 2:51 AM

If this were a Republican accused of sex tourism and illegally soliciting prostitutes in a foreign country, he would be made into the most horrible monster and all you would hear from the news media night after night would be how this is going to hurt the Republican brand. I have a feeling that comedians and other commentators will make light of this story and will even try to portray Menendez as a hip, globetrotting stud.

bluegill on November 1, 2012 at 2:52 AM

See you soon.

thatsafactjack on November 1, 2012 at 2:51 AM

Night, Jackie.

John the Libertarian on November 1, 2012 at 2:54 AM

If he resigns though, the state law says that it’s the Governor who appoints a new senator for the vacant seat…

jimver on November 1, 2012 at 2:48 AM

If he resigns, then obviously all this is a BFD and Kyrillos does have a real chance.

As is though I doubt it comes to that, even after the election… Chances are he digs in and this is covered-up with the help of a friendly media. We still need more for CNN et. al. to be forced into giving this any sort of coverage.

Gingotts on November 1, 2012 at 2:54 AM

I have a feeling that comedians and other commentators will make light of this story and will even try to portray Menendez as a hip, globetrotting stud.

bluegill on November 1, 2012 at 2:52 AM

A hip, globetrotting stud…who has to pay for sex.

steebo77 on November 1, 2012 at 2:55 AM

If he resigns though, the state law says that it’s the Governor who appoints a new senator for the vacant seat…
jimver on November 1, 2012 at 2:48 AM

That is only semi-comforting, given Christie’s recent willingness to go out of his way to lavish praise on Obama. I don’t trust Christie whole lot.

bluegill on November 1, 2012 at 2:55 AM

I have a feeling that comedians and other commentators will make light of this story and will even try to portray Menendez as a hip, globetrotting stud.

bluegill on November 1, 2012 at 2:52 AM

A hip, globetrotting stud who scroos hookurz …..out of their money .

burrata on November 1, 2012 at 2:58 AM

If this were a Republican accused of sex tourism and illegally soliciting prostitutes in a foreign country, he would be made into the most horrible monster and all you would hear from the news media night after night would be how this is going to hurt the Republican brand. I have a feeling that comedians and other commentators will make light of this story and will even try to portray Menendez as a hip, globetrotting stud.

bluegill on November 1, 2012 at 2:52 AM

How, the ‘scandal’ has been made public by Daily Caller that is pretty tabloidish in nature, it’s what they do. hard to make the direct connection to the Republicans. I mean they can try but there will be no evidence…am sure Tucker doesn’t consult with the RNC or anybody on either side of the aisles before he publishes his hit pieces..he’s in the business for money…as for the ‘stud’ Menendez, don’t know if paying for sex qualfy him for ‘stud’ or not’ :)…problem is he didn’t :)…pay that is :)…which got him in trouble to begin with :)…

jimver on November 1, 2012 at 3:09 AM

Qualifies him, that is…

jimver on November 1, 2012 at 3:11 AM

I don’t trust Christie whole lot.

bluegill on November 1, 2012 at 2:55 AM

Christie is conservative. He’s just playing the system, which is corrupt. A governor should not have to suck up to the President for money. It’s the system that is corrupt.

John the Libertarian on November 1, 2012 at 3:15 AM

That is only semi-comforting, given Christie’s recent willingness to go out of his way to lavish praise on Obama. I don’t trust Christie whole lot.

bluegill on November 1, 2012 at 2:55 AM

True, I expect him to pull a Charlie Christ any moment now ….well, as long as he doesn’t appoint Corzine :)….

jimver on November 1, 2012 at 3:17 AM

jimver on November 1, 2012 at 3:09 AM

I just mean that if Menéndez had been a Republican, then you would see a larger effort (than what i anticipate will happen here) to tie his misdeeds to the party as a whole. The website that publishes the story becomes less relevant the more evidence there is.

bluegill on November 1, 2012 at 3:19 AM

Qualifies him, that is…
jimver on November 1, 2012 at 3:11 AM

Ha ha, yeah, I agree. Well, at least those young women are getting their revenge now. I thought it was interesting how the story included the salacious details about how he was so loving at the start but then distant at the end of their encounter.

bluegill on November 1, 2012 at 3:20 AM

This is from his Wikipedia entry:

Menendez is perceived as “sort of dirty in the way that pretty much all Jersey politicians are”.[34] A poll released by CBS and the New York Times in 2006 asked participants to name the first thing that came to their minds when hearing Menendez’s name: the top answer given was “corruption” or “crooked”.[35]

bluegill on November 1, 2012 at 3:26 AM

Digging the HUGE Mitt ad on Drudge.

John the Libertarian on November 1, 2012 at 3:29 AM

Qualifies him, that is…
jimver on November 1, 2012 at 3:11 AM

Ha ha, yeah, I agree. Well, at least those young women are getting their revenge now. I thought it was interesting how the story included the salacious details about how he was so loving at the start but then distant at the end of their encounter.

bluegill on November 1, 2012 at 3:20 AM

Gloria Allred would make this into a cause célèbre, working every single angle, compassion and all :)…dang, too bad she’s not interested :)…

jimver on November 1, 2012 at 3:29 AM

I’d like to see Whraldo defend this guy as a macho latino fella,
with the Menendez daughter on his show ;-)

burrata on November 1, 2012 at 3:31 AM

Gloria Allred would make this into a cause célèbre, working every single angle, compassion and all :)…dang, too bad she’s not interested :)…

Oh, yes. And Gloria would be there at the press conference with the girls handing them kleenexes as they teared up remembering how coldly Menéndez treated them and how unfair it was for him to stiff them and not pay the agreed upon price.

By the way, what is this about the age of the young women? Is someone alleging that they were underage?

bluegill on November 1, 2012 at 3:36 AM

Digging the HUGE Mitt ad on Drudge.
John the Libertarian on November 1, 2012 at 3:29 AM

Me too. Drudge has been magnificent this time around.

bluegill on November 1, 2012 at 3:38 AM

If this was the worst storm to hit NY/NJ since 1831, what was it in the early 1800′s that was causing man-made global warming?

Strike Hornet on November 1, 2012 at 3:41 AM

A hip, globetrotting stud who scroos hookurz …..out of their money .

burrata on November 1, 2012 at 2:58 AM

Lily Ledbetter wept…

Strike Hornet on November 1, 2012 at 3:46 AM

Well, well, well…

Spanier facing charges in PSU abuse case
Perjury, obstruction announcement due

State Attorney General Linda Kelly is expected to announce today that former Penn State University President Graham Spanier has been charged in relation to the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal, according to sources close to the investigation.

The sources, who requested anonymity, said Mr. Spanier is charged with perjury and obstruction of justice.

The longtime Penn State president was forced to resign in the wake of charges being filed against Sandusky a year ago and has been long identified as a target in an investigation of a possible coverup by university administrators.

steebo77 on November 1, 2012 at 3:57 AM

Well, well, well…

Spanier facing charges in PSU abuse case
Perjury, obstruction announcement due

State Attorney General Linda Kelly is expected to announce today that former Penn State University President Graham Spanier has been charged in relation to the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal, according to sources close to the investigation.

The sources, who requested anonymity, said Mr. Spanier is charged with perjury and obstruction of justice.

The longtime Penn State president was forced to resign in the wake of charges being filed against Sandusky a year ago and has been long identified as a target in an investigation of a possible coverup by university administrators.

steebo77 on November 1, 2012 at 3:57 AM

One less commie marxist academic to infect our children…

Strike Hornet on November 1, 2012 at 4:39 AM

the christie love fest continues on morning joe…and mitt is evil for wanting to get rid of fema…

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 6:19 AM

wapo poll 78% approval for dear leader on handingly sandy…will this turn the election?

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 6:20 AM

Richard Wolfe on Moaning Joe:

“The Washington Post is going to release a poll. 78 percent of the people approve of Barack Obama’s handling of Sandy and 50 percent approve of Romney’s handling of Sandy. This is huge! Obama’s approval numbers are huge!”

Can you believe this stupidity? Rush is right. They’re hoping FOUR YEARS OF SOCIALISM is easily swept away under the rug. Is this country that insane?

Marcus on November 1, 2012 at 6:24 AM

BenghaziGate is still her. It’s a matter of transparency. My take.

kingsjester on November 1, 2012 at 6:28 AM

Or “here”. Diet Coke, stat!

kingsjester on November 1, 2012 at 6:30 AM

Marcus on November 1, 2012 at 6:24 AM

man i surely hope not, but with these kool-aid drinkers anything can happen….

so bipartisanship once again in the lsm eyes is a gop fawning (doing whatever a dem wants)over a dem leader and that is what should be happening in dc as well…

unstinkingbelievable…

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 6:43 AM

What did Barry do other than grandstanding during Sandy? How did he demonstrate his leadership during the tornado that leveled Joplin, the flood in TN, campaigning through all the aftermath of Issac ? People should be reminded of his cluelessness and total failure during the BP Oil Spill.

bayview on November 1, 2012 at 6:44 AM

kingsjester on November 1, 2012 at 6:28 AM

another excellent take KJ

blood boiling….

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 6:46 AM

bayview on November 1, 2012 at 6:44 AM

dang it…infuriating…

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 6:47 AM

it infuriates me that bush was respectful of what took place post katrina and didn’t want to get in the way and gets ridiculed…dear leader shows up and its AWESOME

agree with bill bennett this am over the disappointment of christie…he has no problem taking a tour with dear leader but doesn’t want to with mitt because he has a job to do…he had a job to do yesterday as well…what is up??

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 6:50 AM

Well,its come to this,every age is Politically Stressed!(sarc)

And a great Campaign Ad:

Some where in America,a Three Year Cries,Do your American Duty….
…..Vote Mitt Romney!
(sarc)
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Little Girl Cries Over ‘Bronco Bamma’
Oct. 31, 2012
**************

Sick of the elections yet? So is four-year-old Abigael Evans from Colorado. Her mother, Elizabeth Evans, 27, posted a Youtube video of her daughter saying that she is tired of “Bronco Bamma and Mitt Romney.”

The 22-second YouTube clip, published yesterday, shows the little girl with a frown on her face and tears rolling down her cheeks, telling her mother she is tired of this election.

Elizabeth Evans told ABC News that her daughter got emotional listening to NPR. “I just picked her up from daycare so she was grumpy after a long day and we were driving to the grocery store listening to NPR,” Evans said. “And I wasn’t really listening and when I was getting her out of the car, she started saying that she was tired of Bronco Bamma and Mitt Romney.”

“That’s why you’re crying?” the girl’s mother asks.

After she replies with an affirmative shake of her head, Abby’s mother says, “The election will be over soon, O.K?”

“O.K.,” replies the disheartened little girl.

Abigael’s mother says that she is a “very precocious young girl.”

“We don’t watch TV or anything in our house, so even just listening to radio and hearing people talk about politics was all she could handle.”
=========================

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/viral-video-girl-cries-bronco-bamma-mitt-romney/story?id=17610152#.UJJIc2erE2w

canopfor on November 1, 2012 at 6:52 AM

Was Christie the one who spent the majority of the time during the keynote speech at the RNC talking about himself without mentioning the nominee? Christie had also mentioned more than once, while Romney was battling with the general election effort, trying to fight back against the attempts by Barry/Axelrod to negatively define him, that he will be available in 2016. His slobbering over Barry is likely a play for his own presidential ambition. He wants to make himself look good. He does not mind helping Barry hang on for 4 more years and position himself as the front runner in 2016 after a Romney defeat.

bayview on November 1, 2012 at 6:56 AM

Le correction,,thats a Four year old!

canopfor on November 1, 2012 at 6:57 AM

bayview on November 1, 2012 at 6:56 AM

*sigh*

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 6:58 AM

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 6:46 AM

Thank you, Ma’am. Conservatives in NJ call Christie “Governor Zeppelin”.

kingsjester on November 1, 2012 at 7:02 AM

His slobbering over Barry is likely a play for his own presidential ambition. He wants to make himself look good. He does not mind helping Barry hang on for 4 more years and position himself as the front runner in 2016 after a Romney defeat.

bayview on November 1, 2012 at 6:56 AM

He can’t be this stupid. If Obama were to be re-elected with his help, he can go join John Roberts in the corner. Exactly how much are Conservatives to take before we go to war. Four more years of Obama? In 2016 the entire country would look like New Jersey does now. Blackouts. Empty streets. Shelters.

Marcus on November 1, 2012 at 7:02 AM

kingsjester on November 1, 2012 at 7:02 AM

about right…

Marcus on November 1, 2012 at 7:02 AM

*sigh*

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 7:08 AM

So after 4 years of a ruinous and miserable marriage, the battered wife named “Stupid American Voter” will forget what had happened after the jerk bought home a daffodil when divorce paper was served.

bayview on November 1, 2012 at 7:08 AM

bayview on November 1, 2012 at 7:08 AM

feeling a tad eeyorish about this…if he wins due to a photo op cripe

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 7:10 AM

mika and crew are absolutely flabbergasted that folks have a problem with the christie/obama lovefest….

this is what bipartisanship looks like for them…

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 7:11 AM

nj is sunk. christie would see all his political aspirations down the drain if he didn’t grovel to the president to help his constituents.

only the blue states were affected this time…be glad it waasn’t the midwest or southeast shore where bo could ride to the rescue and probably win the election.as it is, bo will lose more pop vote cause nj and ny peeps less likely to vote given their pain.

by the way, pa is pretty much all right….romney will eek out a victory here.

gracie on November 1, 2012 at 7:18 AM

chuck todd going to tout his polls that obama is leading in iowa and nh…game over according to him

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 7:20 AM

canopfor on November 1, 2012 at 6:52 AM

My daughter, whose name is Ragan, was 3 or 4 when Ronald Reagan died. Every time they said his name on TV or the radio she thought they were talking about her. When she realized it wasn’t about her, she was jealous, and pretty upset. Little kids are funny.

Night Owl on November 1, 2012 at 7:20 AM

78% approval on Sandy, woopty–a 78% “success” rate on any project is mediocre. The states primarily impacted by the storm were going to be blue regardless. Other than funneling dollars we do not have, thanks again to the Blightbringer, what problem-solving, disaster recovery skills does he possess? Americans will see through this and certainly is not a deciding factor. As a matter of fact, IMHO, the only undecideds are those who cant decide if they will vote or not and not who their candidate is.

hillsoftx on November 1, 2012 at 7:21 AM

Don’t worry. nathor will be around again today to tell us how the NE is the center of the universe and Romney has lost the presidency.

kingsjester on November 1, 2012 at 7:25 AM

hillsoftx on November 1, 2012 at 7:21 AM

I don’t think anyone who was going to vote for Romney is going to switch to Obama because of this. And while I feel sorry for the people affected by this storm, I doubt they will feel very happy with anybody by next Tuesday, when they still don’t have electricity and their food has gone bad and the subway is still down.

Night Owl on November 1, 2012 at 7:26 AM

Ethra Klein and UpChuck Todd. Donny Douche and Resist-We-Much Al Sharpton. And Mika the head loon in charge.

Moaning Joe is absolutely off the rails today.

Marcus on November 1, 2012 at 7:26 AM

so todd thinks dear leader will tout his love fest with christie and how he has handled sandy while he’s campaigning but he can’t sound too political…OF COURSE he’s going to boast too loudly about it…hope it backfires

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 7:29 AM

Marcus on November 1, 2012 at 7:26 AM

yup

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 7:30 AM

Hello hotair friends. Checking In from Belmar, NJ. We are devastated. Internet service very sporadic. Please keep the prayers coming. Haven’t got much news since Monday. Where do we stand?

IrishEi on November 1, 2012 at 7:32 AM

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 7:29 AM

All it makes me think of is how he left those people in Benghazi to their own fate for political reasons and then lied about it. He has not been willing to talk about that, but he doesn’t mind showing his ugly mug for this, because he thinks is will make him look good. It makes me think even less of him than I did before, if that’s possible.

Night Owl on November 1, 2012 at 7:32 AM

Night Owl on November 1, 2012 at 7:32 AM

infuriating ain’t it…

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 7:35 AM

IrishEi on November 1, 2012 at 7:32 AM

Hang in there buddy…prayers coming your way…

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 7:37 AM

Hello hotair friends. Checking In from Belmar, NJ. We are devastated. Internet service very sporadic. Please keep the prayers coming. Haven’t got much news since Monday. Where do we stand?

IrishEi on November 1, 2012 at 7:32 AM

Glad to hear you are safe, at least! As for where we stand, it depends if you are of the opinion that everyone will forget about the past four years and re-elect Obama because he showed up for a photo op with Christie yesterday in your state, or not.

Night Owl on November 1, 2012 at 7:38 AM

Night Owl on November 1, 2012 at 7:38 AM

couldn’t have said it better myself

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 7:40 AM

chuck todd going to tout his polls that obama is leading in iowa and nh…game over according to him

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 7:20 AM

Why aggravate yourself? We’ll see in Nov 6, won’t we?

bayview on November 1, 2012 at 7:43 AM

bayview on November 1, 2012 at 7:43 AM

yeah

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 7:45 AM

http://georgiatipsheet.com/2012/10/31/lowery-all-whites-are-going-to-hell/

The man who delivered the benediction at President Barack Obama’s 2009 inauguration said that he believes, as he once did in his “militant” youth, that all whites are hell-bound.

“I don’t know what kind of ni**er wouldn’t vote with a black man running,” the frail 91-year-old said, according to the paper. “Nobody intelligent would risk this country with Romney.”

bayview on November 1, 2012 at 7:47 AM

chuck todd going to tout his polls that obama is leading in iowa and nh…game over according to him
cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 7:20 AM

Why do you hang on their every word and pass on what they say? You know what they’re like by now. I don’t have any problem with you passing it on, don’t get me wrong. I just don’t know why you would want to give them any more influence by paying so much attention to them.

bluegill on November 1, 2012 at 7:48 AM

Gov. Christie has been our town twice. Comes in by helicopter. Saw Obama’s fly over, I hear he landed about 20 minutes south of me in Seaside. We gave him the finger, and a neighbor shouted “hey Obama, we got your shovel ready jobs right here!” Felt good to hear that in NJ.

IrishEi on November 1, 2012 at 7:50 AM

bluegill on November 1, 2012 at 7:48 AM

just want you to know what they are saying…i’ll scale it back…no worries

don’t care for fox and friends or cnn in the am while i’m getting ready for work…

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 7:52 AM

bluegill on November 1, 2012 at 7:48 AM

Let them do their circle jerk in the privacy of their own network show.

bayview on November 1, 2012 at 7:52 AM

The man who delivered the benediction at President Barack Obama’s 2009 inauguration said that he believes, as he once did in his “militant” youth, that all whites are hell-bound.
“I don’t know what kind of ni**er wouldn’t vote with a black man running,” the frail 91-year-old said, according to the paper. “Nobody intelligent would risk this country with Romney.”

Whoa. It is almost cliché to say at this point, but imagine if a white man who took part in a Republican president’s inauguration had said something similar. Can you imagine the kind of outrage we would see?

The news media will make excuses for this, ignore it, minimize it, and they will go out of their way to distance the person from Obama.

bluegill on November 1, 2012 at 7:53 AM

just want you to know what they are saying…i’ll scale it back…no worries
don’t care for fox and friends or cnn in the am while i’m getting ready for work…
cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 7:52 AM

No, you can post whatever. I personally have no issues with it and I agree that it can be interesting to hear what others with opposing views are saying.

I was just wondering if you actually enjoyed it. It seems like it was driving you crazy, yet you would still continue to watch and post what they were saying… And would seem so frustrated (or maybe amused?) by what you were hearing. Though maybe I am wrong.

bluegill on November 1, 2012 at 7:56 AM

Yesterday’s viewership…FNC 3x the audience…

FNC FOX & Friends 1,888,000
MSNBC Morning Joe 538,000

hillsoftx on November 1, 2012 at 7:57 AM

cmsinaz

Since it is way too early to drink, why not treat yourself to this

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/31/WaPo-ABC-poll-Romney-Obama-Hurricane

According to the latest Washington Post/ABC News tracking poll, it is highly unlikely that Obama’s behavior during the reaction to Hurricane Sandy will have any impact on the presidential race:

Likely voters’ also remain evenly divided in their assessments of Obama’s overall job performance: 50 percent approve of the way he is handling the presidency; 49 percent disapprove. The stability of these numbers — and of the presidential contest — make it unlikely that high ratings on handling the storm damage will move the needle on either front, but 70 percent of those who give Obama negative marks generally give him positive marks on the hurricane.

bayview on November 1, 2012 at 7:59 AM

Well, I watch Fox in the morning. The other cable news channels are utterly unwatchable. I can only stand about a minute or so at a time of those other news channels.

bluegill on November 1, 2012 at 8:04 AM

bluegill on November 1, 2012 at 7:56 AM

gotcha…frustrates me but i feel like I need to hear what the other side is saying

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 8:05 AM

bayview on November 1, 2012 at 7:59 AM

thanks i needed that :)

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 8:06 AM

Yesterday’s viewership…FNC 3x the audience…

FNC FOX & Friends 1,888,000
MSNBC Morning Joe 538,000

hillsoftx on November 1, 2012 at 7:57 AM

NICE. And despite my Moaning Joe reporting, I try so hard. I really do. I want so hard to turn to Fox and Friends and leave it there. But the show often is deserted with absolutely no one of consequence there. Where is Hume? Huckabee? Gingrich? Coulter? anybody?

Marcus on November 1, 2012 at 8:12 AM

Marcus on November 1, 2012 at 8:12 AM

Try enjoying yourself over a good cup of coffee while listening to some chamber music.

bayview on November 1, 2012 at 8:17 AM

wapo poll 78% approval for dear leader on handingly sandy…will this turn the election?

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 6:20 AM

No, it won’t.

it infuriates me that bush was respectful of what took place post katrina and didn’t want to get in the way and gets ridiculed…dear leader shows up and its AWESOME

Bloomberg understands how 0dumba showing up in NYC would only complicate matters, but most outside observers who don’t think about that angle believe that involving himself only shows how caring the President appears.

agree with bill bennett this am over the disappointment of christie…he has no problem taking a tour with dear leader but doesn’t want to with mitt because he has a job to do…he had a job to do yesterday as well…what is up??

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 6:50 AM

Christie is a politically grandstanding blabbermouth who selfishly cares more about his own star than he does about the GOP, and Conservatism in general?

Anti-Control on November 1, 2012 at 8:33 AM

NICE. And despite my Moaning Joe reporting, I try so hard. I really do. I want so hard to turn to Fox and Friends and leave it there. But the show often is deserted with absolutely no one of consequence there. Where is Hume? Huckabee? Gingrich? Coulter? anybody?

Marcus on November 1, 2012 at 8:12 AM

Hey, someone has to do it! We all deeply appreciate you and cmsinaz being willing to listen to that crap so we don’t have to. I will be there on November 7th, just to watch the meltdowns and the tears. I listen to the radio in the morning. In Pittsburgh, strangely, there is an excellent morning show.

Night Owl on November 1, 2012 at 8:35 AM

Great….Not that I’m surprised about this.

WE CAN’T PRINT MONEY’
New York top finance official, Comptroller Thomas DiNapoli, said Washington should foot the bill, because of lingering financial pressures on state and local governments from the 2007-09 recession.
“I think the focus will have to be on Washington, for obvious reasons,” DiNapoli told Reuters in an interview.
“They have greater resources. They can print money; we can’t do that here. And given the fact this is not just a New York disaster, it’s really a national disaster, it’s probably for the federal government to step up and play a significant role.”

http://news.yahoo.com/york-governor-ask-federal-government-cover-sandy-storm-200420294.html;_ylt=A2KJ3CaGXJJQjHEAdIbQtDMD

moo on November 1, 2012 at 8:38 AM

Thanks AC

Nightowl :)

Ive got family in bethel park

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 8:41 AM

Thanks AC

Nightowl :)

Ive got family in bethel park

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 8:41 AM

LOL! I read that the other day, and that they are big liberals. I’m sure you love them, but I can’t wait for them to get a chance to feel the way the rest of us have felt the past four years!

Night Owl on November 1, 2012 at 8:45 AM

Yepper night owl :)

cmsinaz on November 1, 2012 at 8:47 AM

He can’t be this stupid. If Obama were to be re-elected with his help, he can go join John Roberts in the corner. Exactly how much are Conservatives to take before we go to war. Four more years of Obama? In 2016 the entire country would look like New Jersey does now. Blackouts. Empty streets. Shelters.

Marcus on November 1, 2012 at 7:02 AM

I think Christie has already joined Roberts in the Republican’s corner, nationally speaking, whether Romney wins or not.

Personally, Christie’s self-aggrandizing bothers me even more than Roberts’ dumb decision, in the sense that I don’t believe Roberts was motivated by self-promotion like Christie is now.

Anti-Control on November 1, 2012 at 8:57 AM

God I am so disappointed in yall.
Soooooooo OT on this thread!
Must be Hallowenn.
I see oakland didn’t show up to praise the destruction of AGW & give us a told you so or two.

But in this cases, nature is more complicated

This is the dealie.
I’m so sick of AGW CRAP I could puke.
I was really hoping I could stop showing Al Gore’s movie & the Great Global Warming Swindle to my sophomores & have them do these climate change speeches.
And then I hear this garbage &know I have to cover it in class.

Badger40 on November 1, 2012 at 9:00 AM

But in this ALL cases, nature is more complicated

Meh. Thas whut I ment.

Badger40 on November 1, 2012 at 9:01 AM

Badger40 on November 1, 2012 at 9:01 AM

It’s worse than being off topic. I went to bed early last night and I never even read the quotes! I just came for the morning chitting and chatting.

Your students are lucky, or maybe their parents are. Every year, I have to periodically question my daughter about her science classes to make sure they aren’t trying to brainwash her.

Night Owl on November 1, 2012 at 9:17 AM

These scientists can’t predict the weather next week much less tell me there are going to be major storms up the East coast that are going to be increasing. What’s the big deal with chilly porcupines in AK? We have them in Montana, too. It’s winter, everyone gets chilly. We had snow on the ground on Oct. 2nd.

Kissmygrits on November 1, 2012 at 9:52 AM

“Anyone who says there’s hasn’t been a dramatic change in weather patterns has been denying reality,” New York Governor Andrew Cuomo told reporters today.

A politician can’t remember what’s in the Constitution or keep his penis in his own pants but we are supposed to accept that he’s the equivalent of a PhD level climatologist. Right.

swinia sutki on November 1, 2012 at 10:06 AM

I thought the hurricane was punishment for outlawing large sodas and allowing gays to marry.

And I have as much back-up for that as the AGW crowd has for their hypothesis.

/

tomg51 on November 1, 2012 at 10:31 AM

IrishEi on November 1, 2012 at 7:32 AM

I’ve been thinking of you IrishEi and am delighted to hear that you’re alright. I hope that things get better soon. Hang in there and be well. :)

thatsafactjack on November 1, 2012 at 11:07 AM

I always look at climate change hysterics based on my recall of a cartoon I saw some time, maybe 50 years ago of two cavemen outside their cave where one says to the other, “Notice how the climate has changed since Og invented that bow and arrow?”

Why the divide between Pro and Con climate change scientists, both groups of which are probably playing it straight?

One group contains a lot of left-wing folks who just cannot stand being told they are wrong. They make shame for the entire lot.

dockywocky on November 1, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Your students are lucky, or maybe their parents are. Every year, I have to periodically question my daughter about her science classes to make sure they aren’t trying to brainwash her.

Night Owl on November 1, 2012 at 9:17 AM

It’s good you do that. Bcs most science teachers don’t do science. They read pre-canned lesson plans that come with the book & do that stuff.
They don’t do any research on their own of the topics they’re teaching.
I find many ‘science’ teachers are nothing but those who couldn’t, teach.

Badger40 on November 1, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Christie and Palin fans suddenly very concerned about birther issues after signs of an early Cruz surge in Iowa start to present themselves.

Very interesting.

Coulter, you can take your Christie worship and put it you know where.

bluegill on August 13, 2013 at 7:00 PM

Anyone pushing this birther idiocy is helping the left in its attempt to tarnish and create doubt about an extremely promising conservative man.

Shame on some of you for engaging in this nonsense. Are you that desperate in your support for Christie and Palin that you would go to such sleazy lengths to express this kind of “concern”?

You birthers only aided Obama in 2012 and were a national laughingstock, helping the news media and Obama campaign detract from real issues and portray Republicans as kooky.

I would like to stick to the issue of defunding Obamacare and what Cruz is doing to make it happen, and I am disgusted to see the phony “concern” about whether a natural born citizen is really a natural born citizen

Enough with the birther distractions. Just say NO to birtherism!

bluegill on August 13, 2013 at 7:12 PM

JannyMae, HotAir’s resident shrieking birther nut, is back.

bluegill on August 13, 2013 at 7:43 PM

Thank you for your excellent work countering the ignorant, nutty birther nonsense.

bluegill on August 13, 2013 at 7:48 PM

How much time “preparing” do you need to do to realize that Cruz was a citizen at birth? He never had to do anything to later claim his citizenship. He was never a citizen of Canada.

Going on endlessly about, “but I’m just asking questions. Shouldn’t this be discussed? I am ‘concerned’ that he may not be eligible. Isn’t it ok to hear skepticism?” reminds me of the 9/11 truthers who claim that they are being silenced and also the moon landing conspiracists who peddle their claims long after they’ve been debunked by experts across the board.

At some point you just have to call out the silliness for what it is.

JUST SAY NO TO BIRTHERISM. MSNBC thanks the birthers on the right (whether it be from disgruntled Christie or Palin fans trying to shamefully tarnish Cruz) for helping them distract from the real issues of Obamacare and Obama’s other scandals.

bluegill on August 13, 2013 at 8:59 PM

THANK YOU.

You and ResistWeMuch are valuable assets to this site.

Obviously Cruz is eligible.

Now can we please move on to more important issues?

bluegill on August 13, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Hallelujah. Exactly right

Excellent point.

Look, the people going on and on with this birther nonsense are likely either people with an anti-Cruz agenda or people who were demanding Obama’s birth certificate a few years ago and now just want to appear consistent.

bluegill on August 13, 2013 at 9:57 PM

Well put.

MSNBC anchors love to push the ridiculous Cruz birther topics. On DailyKos and elsewhere they’ve taken to calling him Calgary Cruz. They know what they’re doing. It saddens me to see conservatives fall for it and take it seriously.

bluegill on August 13, 2013 at 10:10 PM

Capitalist Hog is apparently a formerly banned, race-obsessed HotAair commenter who has come back in a new incarnation. The other day someone provided excellent evidence to support this claim. Just thought you all should know.

bluegill on August 13, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Wonderful post.

You should post more often.

bluegill on August 13, 2013 at 11:27 PM

You, an incessant Palin cheerleader, are concern trolling because the only conservative you want nominated is Palin and you want to tarnish Cruz. It’s transparently obvious. So you can save your little winks for your Palin fan club; you’re not fooling people here.

“Children of citizens” is describing all those people born outside the US and whose parents are not foreigners, NOT one particular set of offspring by a particular set of parents.

Cruz’ mother was a citizen. Therefore, Cruz is a citizen at birth. It’s not more complicated than that.

bluegill on August 14, 2013 at 12:01 AM

I really didn’t think that Palin superfans could prove themselves to be any dumber or more embarrassing, but they are proving me wrong.

bluegill on August 14, 2013 at 12:04 AM

Listen up, Lourdes the birther, “birther” is a much gentler, kinder term to describe you folk than I would come up with and than what you deserve. So please stop complaining about being called out for what you are. Cruz is eligible. Deal.

bluegill on August 14, 2013 at 12:08 AM

You’re trying to maintain an appearance of consistency between your birther days of the 2012 campaign and now. It’s obviously important to you to appear consistent, yet you have enough sense to avoid coming out and declaring an obviously fine patriot like Cruz ineligible. The only consistent thing is that you birthers were embarrassing then and are embarrassing now.

Here’s the truth:
Obama, a citizen at birth, was eligible.

Cruz, a citizenship at birth, is also eligible.

bluegill on August 14, 2013 at 12:19 AM

And how ironic that you would then try to use some fringe, agenda-driven interpretation of a technicality to try to support those who wish to block a great patriotic constitutionalist, all because you don’t want to appear inconsistent from your “Obama isn’t eligible to be president! Why is he hiding his birth certificate?” days.

How small of you.

You can do it, Lourdes. Admit you were wrong about the birther issue. It won’t be the end of the world, and we will respect you more for it.

bluegill on August 14, 2013 at 12:40 AM

I apologize for my rudeness earlier. I’m just very worked up and don’t like to see people here aid the left in attempting to tarnish a wonderful patriot like Ted Cruz.

For more coverage of this issue, I recommend the following article which goes along nicely with Allahpundit’s fine analysis:
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/343914/cruz-birthers-eliana-johnson

bluegill on August 14, 2013 at 12:54 AM

Yikes, this discussion has taken a startling turn with the arrival of additional birther troops. Now the birthers are screaming in all caps and claiming that the shadowy “they” are sabotaging birther efforts to reveal the truth.

I’m hearing echoes of 9/11 trutherism.

Look, RWM, Mr. Eaton and others in this thread have already clearly and calmly laid out why Cruz is clearly eligible. Visitors are invited to reread their helpful posts in the previous pages of this thread.

bluegill on August 14, 2013 at 9:58 AM

Resist We Much should be our new Green Room blogger. Very good analysis.

I’m sure I wouldn’t always agree with him/her, but they know their stuff! Very thorough and clear.

bluegill on August 14, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Rand Paul says he’s not a birther:
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/316945-paul-im-not-a-birther-wont-question-cruzs-eligibility-for-president-?utm_source=buffer&utm_campaign=Buffer&utm_content=buffer2b78e&utm_medium=twitter

bluegill on August 14, 2013 at 12:06 PM

You sound like one of those Palin worshipers who posts non-stop in Palin threads and then delights at the comment counts, saying, “I guess she’s just irrelevant, though ;-).” As if their stupid non-stop posts about Palin proved her relevance. Similarly, many comments here don’t show anything about the worth of birthers’ claims. Many comments here just show that there are, sadly, many embarrassing birther nutballs but, fortunately, there are also several readers here willing and able to soundly debunk their claims.

I’m just sorry to see Palin worshipers like bmore concern trolling about Cruz’ eligibility in an attempt to tarnish a wonderful patriot like Cruz since they can only bear to see Palin as the nominee. Pathetic, indeed.

bluegill on August 14, 2013 at 7:16 PM

Bmore on August 14, 2013 at 10:56 PM

The sad thing is that the many out there are just going to hear “Cruz born in Canada” and then conclude that he’s not eligible. Many wont take the time to learn the facts. Though I hope I am wrong. I am hoping there are more people out there like Resist We Much and less like the Palin-worshiping birther boob bmore.

The stupid hubbub over Obama’s birth certificate is coming back and biting us in the rear.

But hopefully this won’t be much of an issue.

bluegill on August 14, 2013 at 11:32 PM

Bmore on August 14, 2013 at 11:39 PM

Now lets all get back to American Idol….

Electrongod on June 1, 2014 at 8:08 PM

I would much rather prefer this fine performance.

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Bmore on June 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM

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