PPP: Obama leads by 5 in Ohio, 50/45 …

posted at 12:41 pm on October 31, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

No wonder David Axelrod thinks that Barack Obama can win Ohio without winning independents.  According to the latest Buckeye State poll from PPP, they only need an extra five points from non-Democrats to get a majority:

A new Public Policy Polling survey in Ohio, conducted on behalf of Health Care for America Now, finds Barack Obama leading Mitt Romney 50-45.

Oh, let’s just skip the rest of the preliminaries and go right to the sample.  The D/R/I on this poll is a ridiculous 45/36/19 that assumes Democrats will add six points to their 2008 turnout while independents largely stay home.  In 2008, recall, the exit polls showed the electorate at 39/31/30, and the 2010 midterm put it at 36/37/28.  Has anyone produced any evidence of such a wave of Democratic enthusiasm?  Even the CBS/NYT/Q-poll today showed GOP enthusiasm leading by 14 in Ohio, 57/43.

PPP also is one of the few polls to show independents not breaking significantly to Romney.  Instead, PPP has them both tied at 45% with six days left to go.  The 10% undecided in this case would probably have to break toward the challenger, since Obama’s underwater with independents on favorability (46/48) and especially on job approval (42/50).

This poll is good for a laugh, but that’s about it.

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Six more days until Gumby’s head explodes.

JPeterman on October 31, 2012 at 12:55 PM

The only thing exploding in six days will me me and gumby’s champaign corks and an illegal firework or two. America wins on November 6th. The “silent majority” will be pushed back into obscurity, thankfully.

akaniku on October 31, 2012 at 12:58 PM

I think the only thing you are going to put in each other’s bubble is cyanide, dear Eva Brown, to spare each other the humiliation lol :)…together for an eternity :)..

jimver on October 31, 2012 at 1:04 PM

I keep seeing a few people say that you’re just punking us. But I have to ask anyway: Why would someone who claims to be “center-right” prefer the most extreme left candidate in American history over a center-right candidate like Romney?

Bitter Clinger on October 31, 2012 at 1:03 PM

You mean these two aren’t center-right? Whoodathunkit!

oldroy on October 31, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Ed is comparing the D/R/I to the 2008 national advantage for Democrats – D+8. The poll is even more laughable if you use the 2008 number for Ohio – D+5.

Long Legged MacDaddy on October 31, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Because this poll was commissioned by HCAN it won’t be included in the RCP average.

steebo77 on October 31, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Yes, it will. The last one was.

Jon0815 on October 31, 2012 at 1:05 PM

The only thing exploding in six days will me me and gumby

akaniku on October 31, 2012 at 12:58 PM

I agree.

portlandon on October 31, 2012 at 1:07 PM

What they don’t realize is these whacky polls that show King Obama winning is only going to depress his base.

Why should Pookie get off the couch when he knows the King has it in the bag?

JPeterman on October 31, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Exactly. That’s why I say, let them believe what they want to believe – that Barky is ahead in the polls.

Are you back in the states?

UltimateBob on October 31, 2012 at 1:07 PM

HotAirLib on October 31, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Being a lefty, I know that none of this will make sense to you, but there is a point at which there are diminishing returns for your money used in a particular way. At that point, you have to evaluate how best to spend your money and where you can get the most bang for your buck. I know that lefties like you just go find more of other people’s money to spend so that you can spend on both, but when you have to account for your own finances, these are the types of decisions that you have to make.

besser tot als rot on October 31, 2012 at 1:00 PM

..and sometimes you account for your money and talent so skillfully, you end up with a ton of it at the end and can bomb Dresden to a smoking pile of cinders:

There are only 6 days left to campaign and following the Hurricane Sandy pause Team Romney is gearing up for a final push to close out the cycle that would dwarf any prior campaign’s effort. According to CNN, Team Romney will hit 11-states with all-stars from the GOP’s deep bench, Colorado, Ohio, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, North Carolina, New Hampshire, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Wisconsin..

The War Planner on October 31, 2012 at 1:09 PM

The only thing exploding in six days will me me and gumby’s champaign corks and an illegal firework or two.

akaniku on October 31, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Last time I checked, Champaign was in Illinois, not in France.

F-

Del Dolemonte on October 31, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Lool :) I can guarantee you we don’t have Champaign in France :)…

jimver on October 31, 2012 at 1:09 PM

These polls lack validity, reliability and their sampling techniques are laughable. They have become political tools for influencing the public, not informing them. No, there is one more thing . . . they give false hope to the trolls on this board.

rplat on October 31, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Yes, it will. The last one was.

Jon0815 on October 31, 2012 at 1:05 PM

No, it won’t. The last one (10/26-28) was a straight-up PPP poll, not sponsored by anyone.

steebo77 on October 31, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Spelling is hard. So is math. So is logic.

oldroy on October 31, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Tiresome troll,babbling vile,
Choking, sputtering, in your bile.
Despair engulfs because you know,
defeat awaits you, six days to go.

thatsafactjack on October 31, 2012 at 1:11 PM

..and sometimes you account for your money and talent so skillfully, you end up with a ton of it at the end and can bomb Dresden to a smoking pile of cinders:

“The Death Star has cleared the planet. The Death Star has cleared the planet.”

Chuckg on October 31, 2012 at 1:12 PM

The only thing exploding in six days will me me and gumby’s champaign corks and an illegal firework or two.

yaki nikku on October 31, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Last time I checked, Champaign was in Illinois, not in France.

F-

Del Dolemonte on October 31, 2012 at 1:04 PM

..well, for an Obama supporter, she got the “me me” part right!

The War Planner on October 31, 2012 at 1:12 PM

Hmmmmm

Problem found at board of elections
http://www.marionstar.com/article/20121031/NEWS03/310310009/Problem-found-board-elections?

MARION — Joan Stevens was one of several early voters at the polls on Monday. But when Stevens tried to cast her ballot for president, she noticed a problem.

Upon selecting “Mitt Romney” on the electronic touch screen, Barack Obama’s name lit up.

Stevens said she alerted Jackie Smith, a board of elections member who was present. Smith declined to comment, but Stevens says she mentioned that the machine had been having problems all day.

Despite no problems with that particular machine, Rogers decided to take all precautions. She contacted the vendor and had them inspect the device.

“Because of her issue, we had that machine recalibrated,” Rogers said. “I am certain the equipment works properly.”

More voting problems reported in Jamestown, Pleasant Garden
http://myfox8.com/2012/10/24/more-early-voting-issues-in-guilford-county/

GREENSBORO, N.C. — Once again, several voters in Guilford County are claiming the electronic voting machines are getting their votes wrong.

Now, some voters are concerned about polling locations in Jamestown and Pleasant Garden.

On Tuesday, voters who cast their ballots at the Bur-Mil Park polling location said when they attempted to vote for Mitt Romney the machine chose Barack Obama.

Similar problems have been reported in Jamestown and Pleasant Garden.

Faurest Stum says she voted at the Pleasant Garden Town Hall location. Her vote was for Mitt Romney, but the machine cast the vote for Barack Obama.

Guilford County Board of Elections Director George Gilbert says the problem is the machines needed to be re-calibrated.

Southern by choice22 on October 31, 2012 at 1:12 PM

Colorado: Romney 50%, Obama 46%. Is this an atomic bomb?

Conservative4ev on October 31, 2012 at 1:13 PM

The only thing exploding in six days will me me and gumby’s champaign corks …

akaniku on October 31, 2012 at 12:58 PM

…is that what they call them now?…corks?
…does the spotted goat know about this?

KOOLAID2 on October 31, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Guilford County Board of Elections Director George Gilbert says the problem is the machines needed to be re-calibrated.

Southern by choice22 on October 31, 2012 at 1:12 PM

..just like the office of president will be re-calibrated on November 6th.

The War Planner on October 31, 2012 at 1:14 PM

lsm fawning over dear leader coming down the stairs of AF1…ooooooh

cmsinaz on October 31, 2012 at 1:14 PM

lsm just LOVING christie…

cripe

cmsinaz on October 31, 2012 at 1:14 PM

I heard the PPP poll done in a black church in Cleveland last Sunday with a sample breakdown of D 99/R 0/I 1 was kind of disastrous for Romney. Citing that poll, gumbypoked posts that Ohio is lost for Romney.

bayview on October 31, 2012 at 1:03 PM

And even that one only had Obama at 49%…

Gingotts on October 31, 2012 at 1:14 PM

They took the skewed sampling to show SOMETHING where Obama got to the 50% number. Reeking with desperation.

michaelo on October 31, 2012 at 1:15 PM

The only thing exploding in six days will me me and gumby’s champaign corks and an illegal firework or two. America wins on November 6th. The “silent majority” will be pushed back into obscurity, thankfully.

akaniku on October 31, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Is that some sort of gay code for sex? Have fun,I guess…

spinach.chin on October 31, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Substandard trolling or barely passable performance art. Either one.

What happened with your work, akaniku? You were getting there with the Quinton (yes, I did see that) Tarantino movie with Michael Vick and the Bane guy and now this??? You’re regressing.

kim roy on October 31, 2012 at 1:16 PM

I hope the cost of the propaganda polling the legacy media is doing speeds up their financial bankruptcy…this may be the best way for America to rid itself of the corrupt media?

d1carter on October 31, 2012 at 1:16 PM

For gumby and Dave Rywall, to help your enthusiasm.

Schadenfreude on October 31, 2012 at 1:17 PM

they give false hope to the trolls on this board.

rplat on October 31, 2012 at 1:10 PM

And the left in general. It will just be emotional fuel for the riots of Detroit, Oakland, LA, Chicago, Baltimore, Philadelphia etc.

I think it would be wise for Obama to ask many of the major cities to start controlled burns of neighbourhoods early, to clear out some of the extra fuel before the riots actually start. They might be able to create some fire-breaks ahead of time. Maybe get emergency operations – shelters – field hospitals etc., set up before hand.

oldroy on October 31, 2012 at 1:17 PM

Southern by choice22 on October 31, 2012 at 1:12 PM

re-calibrated
Some people just say ” Oh, Sh!t, we got caught” a bit differently than most of us.

Jabberwock on October 31, 2012 at 1:18 PM

kim roy on October 31, 2012 at 1:16 PM

..yaki nikku has ALWAYS been a pathetic, substandard troll.

The War Planner on October 31, 2012 at 1:18 PM

This is why I hate f$cking polls. What is that damned point of spending money on polls and running this sh!t if its meaningless? And on the subject, does blogging on this crap a good idea? You can only expose phony polls to a point where doing so is just distracting and a waste of brainpower, Mr. Morrissey.

/rant.

guido911 on October 31, 2012 at 1:19 PM

PublicPolicyPolling ‏@ppppolls

Barack Obama and Mitt Romney continue to be tied on our new North Carolina poll. Results coming up

Haha. No shame.

Chuck Schick on October 31, 2012 at 1:19 PM

The Schadenfreude will be epic on Nov 7th. Oh how I will savor the tears of unfathomable sorrow from the left.

My fingers will have orgasms typing and quoting all the leftest posts from the past on that day.

Skwor on October 31, 2012 at 1:19 PM

What evah, we got this.

rob verdi on October 31, 2012 at 1:19 PM

No wonder David Axelrod thinks that Barack Obama can win Ohio without winning independents. According to the latest Buckeye State poll from PPP, they only need an extra five points from non-Democrats to get a majority.

LOL! Since 1972 (when Americans began to call themselves “Independents”), only one presidential candidate has won Indies and lost the election. That was John Kerry in 2004. He won Indies by less than 2%.

A candidate cannot lose the independent vote by upper-single or double-digits in swing states (or even nationally) and win an election unless the opposition party stays home in DRAMATIC numbers and has enormous crossover. I’m talking about something on the level of having a D@vid Duke, Malik Zulu Shabazz, or Jerry Sandusky as the nominee. That isn’t the case in this election. Romney actually has a higher favourability rating than Obama and Republicans are much more enthusiastic than they were in 2008.

Only the delusional believe that Democratic turnout will be higher and Republican turnout lower than in 2008.

One predictor of turnout is midterm election turnout. Take a look at the pattern:

In the 1998 midterms, turnout was D+2.

In 2000, turnout was D+4.

In the 2002 midterms, turnout was R+1.

In 2004, turnout was R+2.4.

In the 2006 midterms, turnout was D+3.

In 2008, turnout was D+5.

In the 2010 midterms, turnout was R+3.

If this pattern holds, Republican turnout will be higher than Democrat turnout. Even if R turnout doesn’t eclipse D turnout, the pattern still suggests that D turnout will be lower than 2008. This prediction is also backed up by all of the polling data, which shows Republicans have a sizable enthusiasm lead over Democrats. Further, recently released data suggest that many of Obama’s core constituencies (18-34, African-Americans, and Hispanics) are not likely to vote in the numbers that they did in 2008. This is especially true for Millennials.

Resist We Much on October 31, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Maybe not scientific, but I just got back from a morning of runninng errands in central PA near Harrisburg, and the RR signs are everywhere, including some really cool big ones at businesses. In 08 the obama signs outnumbered McCain ones by a lot.

Paddington on October 31, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Landslide.

Romney takes NH NC VA OH MI IA CO

blatantblue on October 31, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Steady my friends, The paid trolls will be out in force till Tuesday.Just keep your head on straight and stay committed.

creek on October 31, 2012 at 1:20 PM

our crooked press has covered for barry so many times that it is hard to remember. Today we remember Corzine…i wonder if he’s saying ‘guilty as hell, free as a bird’

there’s always been crooks in politics…there’s money to be made…but the leftist media has joined the crooked pols..because there’s money to be made. Many in the press make Handsome salaries…cozy in their finances and in their elbow-rubbing parties. Why rock the boat…party time!

PPP is not a serious polling firm…and HCAN is just another leftist self-interested group of people looking for handouts.

but the larger question is why do so many pollster have indies +R a lot, and R enthusiasm high, yet barry stomping mitt?

if they are being dishonest, then they are paving the way for the election to once again be called illegitimate…which the Left always says if an R wins.

r keller on October 31, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Oh and PA

blatantblue on October 31, 2012 at 1:20 PM

I hope the cost of the propaganda polling the legacy media is doing speeds up their financial bankruptcy…this may be the best way for America to rid itself of the corrupt media?

d1carter on October 31, 2012 at 1:16 PM

A 25 year old gall showed up at my doorstep yesterday to try to sell me a subscription to the newspaper. I asked her what would happen if the newspaper offended 50% of their subscribers. She thought they would be out of business. I informed her that I had just cancelled my subscription for many reasons, the most important was the paper’s blatant leftist slant.

She had no clue what I was talking about. The papers and the broadcast news will go down, it’s just a matter of time. What remains to be seen is whether there will be a few actual honest journalists that won’t go with them.

oldroy on October 31, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Exactly. That’s why I say, let them believe what they want to believe – that Barky is ahead in the polls.

Are you back in the states?

UltimateBob on October 31, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Been home for a while. Been working the butt off for the past 2 weekends in GOTV in Nevada. Will probably do the same this weekend.

JPeterman on October 31, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Sensing the laxative he took was working, SloJoe informed his low information rally audience he would be giving them the whole load.

bayview on October 31, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Landslide.

Romney takes NH NC VA OH MI IA CO

blatantblue on October 31, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Agree except for MI, which I see as a real tossup.

Turtle317 on October 31, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Steady my friends, The paid trolls will be out in force till Tuesday.Just keep your head on straight and stay committed.

creek on October 31, 2012 at 1:20 PM

I hope they can get unemployment benefits when it’s over, but I’d bet their employers aren’t paying the insurance for them.

oldroy on October 31, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Rush is right. They’re setting up the narrative.

Can’t wait for the ‘Exit Polling’…

BigWyo on October 31, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Rush is right. They’re setting up the narrative.

Can’t wait for the ‘Exit Polling’…

BigWyo on October 31, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Exit polling will be a repeat of WI Gov. Scott re-election. Too close to call become landslide by 11:00 p.m.

Turtle317 on October 31, 2012 at 1:26 PM

If you look at the customer for that poll you’d say PPP told them what they wanted to hear.

JEM on October 31, 2012 at 1:27 PM

I think what is funny is Romney throwing away money in states like MI, PA and MN. States everyone knows he will never win. The Obama campaign has even thrown in the towel on the far fetched Arizona.

Even if the swing state tv stations have no more ad spaces to sell, Romney’s money would be better spent shoring up his GOTV efforts in VA, FL, CO and maybe OH.

Truth be told, Romney’s campaign is now looking more erratic than the McCain 2008 campaign.

HotAirLib on October 31, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Hhahaha, you made my day…coz Romney put the Bird Bird silly ads out there, and the Lena Chick idiotic ad, and the crazy old people vowing to c…punch Romney if he wins :)… Indeed, Romney sent Bubba desperately to MN :)….yes, you a winning lool :)… .you really are a clone between gumbey and pokey, IQ-wise that was a bad experiment, HAL :)

jimver on October 31, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Obama won’t get the Black turnout that he did in 2008. That’s being borne out by the early voting numbers where he lags far behind his 2008 numbers. Black churches where very instrumental in getting that turn out and many are less enthusiastic this year. Many Blacks don’t see that he has done anything for them so Romney may get more than the 5% of the Black vote that McCain got. Obama won’t get as many Jewish votes or Catholic votes that he did in 2008. He won’t get as many women. No incumbent has ever been reelected for President without getting more votes than he got when first elected. Any poll that is using 2008 to weigh the numbers is worthless, this poll even more so.

Rancher on October 31, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Big bird ad that is…

And

You are winning…

jimver on October 31, 2012 at 1:29 PM

The D/R/I on this poll is a ridiculous 45/36/19 that assumes Democrats will add six points to their 2008 turnout while independents largely stay home.

Wow.. A lot of Dems are going to be shocked next week.. I mean, if they actually believe this tripe.

Al Hall on October 31, 2012 at 1:33 PM

I think what is funny is Romney throwing away money in states like MI, PA and MN. States everyone knows he will never win. The Obama campaign has even thrown in the towel on the far fetched Arizona.

Even if the swing state tv stations have no more ad spaces to sell, Romney’s money would be better spent shoring up his GOTV efforts in VA, FL, CO and maybe OH.
HotAIrLib

Priceless, the idiotic leftist troll telling Romney campaign what to do with their money ) .why don’t you tell that imbecilic Obama campaign what to do with their (ahem, we know it’s actually borrowed money that the taxpayer will have to pay back somehow), they are clearly spending it on loser ads (see the big bird one, the ann dunham one, oups, that would be incestuous, I meant lena dunham :)…

jimver on October 31, 2012 at 1:36 PM

A new Public Policy Polling survey in Ohio, conducted on behalf of Health Care for America Now, finds Barack Obama leading Mitt Romney 50-45.

Oh, let’s just skip the rest of the preliminaries and go right to the sample. The D/R/I on this poll is a ridiculous 45/36/19 that assumes Democrats will add six points to their 2008 turnout while independents largely stay home.

If we assume that Obama got all the Democrats and Romney got all the Republicans, Obama got 5% of the total sample from Indies, while Romney got 9% of the total sample from Indies. If Indies represent 19% of the sample, Romney won them 47% – 26%.

If the Indie turnout in Ohio is closer to 30%, a 20% margin for Romney among them translates to 6% of the total electorate. Romney could win Ohio by keeping the Dem turnout advantage to 5% or less.

Steve Z on October 31, 2012 at 1:37 PM

This just a transparent ploy to suppress GOP and Indy vote

rik on October 31, 2012 at 1:39 PM

New Hotness: “We may not win (Independents) but we may not have to win (Independents).”

Old Hotness: Obama Adviser: Independents Will Decide Election

Resist We Much on October 31, 2012 at 1:41 PM

Exit polling will be a repeat of WI Gov. Scott re-election. Too close to call become landslide by 11:00 p.m.

Turtle317 on October 31, 2012 at 1:26 PM

I think it’ll be more like 2004, where the fake exit polls showed Kerry up a zillion points in like every state in the late afternoon in an attempt to make it look like the election was over and there was no point in Republicans coming out to vote. It would not surprise me if the media trys that crap again, just don’t fall for it.

eyedoc on October 31, 2012 at 1:49 PM

The only thing exploding in six days will me me and gumby’s champaign corks
akaniku

What you two in the bedroom is your business, we don’t want to hear it.

Hard Right on October 31, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Based on early voting here in CO; 2012 is shaping up to be several points more R than in 2004.

Look at early voting in OH. There is no indication whatsoever of higher Dem turnout than in 2008. None. Zip. Nada.

Norwegian on October 31, 2012 at 12:51 PM

In fact according to this site https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvEOdIaw0fPNdHVOZnFENDdDYVFTRi1UMlgxQ0F4OVE#gid=0 that is tracking Ohio absentee ballots requests the democrats in 2012 are down by 125,000 ballots compared to 2008 and the Republicans in 2012 are up by 10,000 ballots over 2008. In other word the net lose for democrats in absentee ballots alone is 135,000… Obama won Ohio in 2008 by only 260,000 and he is already losing 135,000 among absentee votes alone and assuming that all democrats are voting him in this category.

Obama is certain to lose Ohio…

mnjg on October 31, 2012 at 1:49 PM

The only thing exploding in six days will me me and gumby

akaniku on October 31, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Closet tea baggers? Who would have thought…

riddick on October 31, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Wow.. A lot of Dems are going to be shocked next week.. I mean, if they actually believe this tripe.

Al Hall on October 31, 2012 at 1:33 PM

They do. They all follow Nate Silver and think Bammy has a 75% chance of winning the election.

eyedoc on October 31, 2012 at 1:51 PM

New Hotness: “We may not win (Independents) but we may not have to win (Independents).”

Old Hotness: Obama Adviser: Independents Will Decide Election

Resist We Much on October 31, 2012 at 1:41 PM

The golden rule of American politics has always been that the party who wins the independents by 3+ points is going to win the election… Now suddenly in 2012 when Obama is losing independents by an average of 8 points even in the very biased media polls, winning independents does not matter for Obama and his media… These people are delusional beyond belief…

mnjg on October 31, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Based on early voting here in CO; 2012 is shaping up to be several points more R than in 2004.

Look at early voting in OH. There is no indication whatsoever of higher Dem turnout than in 2008. None. Zip. Nada.

Norwegian on October 31, 2012 at 12:51 PM

How about the R in OH? Higher than 2008??

jimver on October 31, 2012 at 1:51 PM

By the way, this election is the end of Nate Silver. He will not be taken seriously again.

eyedoc on October 31, 2012 at 1:52 PM

They do. They all follow Nate Silver and think Bammy has a 75% chance of winning the election.

eyedoc on October 31, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Nate Silver is the most over rated idiot in making elections predictions…

mnjg on October 31, 2012 at 1:53 PM

By the way, this election is the end of Nate Silver. He will not be taken seriously again.

eyedoc on October 31, 2012 at 1:52 PM

The liberals will always over rated their fools no matter how wrong they are…

mnjg on October 31, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Wow.. A lot of Dems are going to be shocked next week.. I mean, if they actually believe this tripe.

Al Hall on October 31, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Most likely not. Since Sunday communist news media have been already on their excuse trip for the eventual loss next week, first its Republicans rigging election machines and counting, then Sandy suppressing the Dem vote, then whatever else they come up with by tomorrow or Sunday to explain “suppressed vote”.

If news media are spending so much time at this point on more and more excuses, then it is clear that only the most illiterate of the Dem side will be “surprised” next week. Wait, that makes most of them…

riddick on October 31, 2012 at 1:55 PM

I think it’ll be more like 2004, where the fake exit polls showed Kerry up a zillion points in like every state in the late afternoon in an attempt to make it look like the election was over and there was no point in Republicans coming out to vote. It would not surprise me if the media trys that crap again, just don’t fall for it.

eyedoc on October 31, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Expect exactly the same foul play of stupid exit polls…

mnjg on October 31, 2012 at 1:55 PM

How about the R in OH? Higher than 2008??

jimver on October 31, 2012 at 1:51 PM

According to this site https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvEOdIaw0fPNdHVOZnFENDdDYVFTRi1UMlgxQ0F4OVE#gid=0 that is tracking Ohio absentee ballots requests the democrats in 2012 are down by 125,000 ballots compared to 2008 and the Republicans in 2012 are up by 10,000 ballots over 2008. In other word the net lose for democrats in absentee ballots alone is 135,000… Obama won Ohio in 2008 by only 260,000 and he is already losing 135,000 among absentee votes alone and assuming that all democrats are voting him in this category.

Obama is certain to lose Ohio…

mnjg on October 31, 2012 at 1:56 PM

How about the R in OH? Higher than 2008??

jimver on October 31, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Early voting in NV, as reported last week, had roughly 20K more Dems than Rs. That is with the 130K registration edge to Dems, so it seems Rs should be able to take it next week.

Yesterday and today reports indicted that R leads for Congress (1 Senate and 2 House) here in Clark County area all safely R, even with slightly widening in the races in Ts favor.

Still have no idea how media still insist that Romney is losing, but the only explanation so far is that communist lite, aka “libertarians”, will vote against Romney. No other explanation with the numbers I am seeing and with local media flooded with communist lite emails and newspaper responses.

riddick on October 31, 2012 at 2:00 PM

I love the smell of libtard desperation… it smells like victory and of a soon to be homeless 0bama.

Wolftech on October 31, 2012 at 2:02 PM

All these ppp polls along with cbs/nbc/and msm polls will have obama up +5 going into election day.

Next its surprise surprise surprise – Romney wins.

Then its lawyer up and challenge the votes while using the MSM to make Mitt not legitimate in his “win” so he goes into the presidency with a stain and no matter how he reaches across the aisle he’ll get no kudos.

Sound familiar? It should. Its right out of the playbook of W’s presidency.
Yeah – they got it down already about not playing nice and having a reason why. That last part is key. They don’t want to be seen as sore losers. No, the election was stolen. Again.

guess the defacto ruler should be D after their name and if a R gets in they yell cheater for 4 to 8 years making life miserable.

athenadelphi on October 31, 2012 at 2:04 PM

These polls are driving me crazy…..

Terrye on October 31, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Why worry? According to RCP, the election is already over:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map_no_toss_ups.html

JFS61 on October 31, 2012 at 12:56 PM

And that is averaging the obvious skewed polls. Well. Add Ohio and Iowa to the red column and it’s a done deal.. Then when Wisconsin comes in red, it’s starts to look bad.. I won’t even be surprised if MI and PA come in as well. Not to mention NH..
Looks hopeful now for the Dems but let’s talk again on the 7th. I highly suspect this is a 300+ for Romney.

Al Hall on October 31, 2012 at 2:16 PM

breaking news…President Obama up 8 in Wisconsin again by Marquette Poll ( a poll the GOP loved mid October)…. also the GOP convention keynoter Christie loving the President and Big Government on live tv …

U2denver on October 31, 2012 at 2:17 PM

the GOP convention keynoter Christie loving the President and Big Government on live tv …

bob_denver on October 31, 2012 at 2:17 PM

Yeah, that should really help O’bamna win Christie’s state next week.

Oh, that’s right. O’bamna is already winning New Jersey by 12. Why is he even bothering to campaign there? Desperation, that’s why.

F-

Del Dolemonte on October 31, 2012 at 2:27 PM

breaking news…President Obama up 8 in Wisconsin again by Marquette Poll ( a poll the GOP loved mid October)…. also the GOP convention keynoter Christie loving the President and Big Government on live tv …

U2denver on October 31, 2012 at 2:17 PM

I know that you are excited and good for you, but know this, should Obama win, your life will be as miserable as it is now. I will continue to do everything in my power to make the next 4 years as horrible for Obama and his groupies as I have done in the last 4.

As I have said since Obama’s inauguration:

Fund Your Utopia Without Me.

Big, sloppy kiss.

Resist We Much on October 31, 2012 at 2:29 PM

This just a transparent ploy to suppress GOP and Indy vote

rik on October 31, 2012 at 1:39 PM

WHAT?
Voter suppression?

Who would do such a thing?

chumpThreads on October 31, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Thread troll count so far = 4.

They seem to love the poll threads.

farsighted on October 31, 2012 at 2:47 PM

The results indicated that 33% said they have already voted. And yet only 1.6M requested absentee ballots. Based on 2008 turnout, that is 28% of the electorate. The latest from George Mason is that 1.25M have returned with votes. That is NOT 33%. Perhaps those in Ohio would like to stop being called and just say they have already voted.

Besides that, the results indicate that ‘O’ gets the majority of females AND males. Reality check here please.

Perhaps if they disclosed the breakdown of their polling by region we could see just how skewed their results are. Ohio is not a homogenous voting landscape, thus skewing is very easy to do. The D/R/I breakdown indicates exactly that kind of regional skewing.

We’ll see what the real regional skew is next Tuesday.

VOTE!

Carnac on October 31, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Who would do such a thing?

chumpThreads on October 31, 2012 at 2:40 PM

That would be The Democrats!

-The party that actively worked to disqualify unopened absentee military ballots in FL in 2000.
-The party that throws away uncounted absentee ballots in MA if the total # recieved cannot effect the outcome (thus suppressing the total vote count for all candidates in the race.)

Yep. You guys.

This is the plank in your eye, Chump.
Stop trying to focus on the speck in our eye, which is insisting that people properly identify themselves at the polling place.

massrighty on October 31, 2012 at 3:07 PM

And the “Ohio Poll/University of Cincinatti” showing Obama up 2?

libfreeordie on October 31, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Ohio, By The Numbers (Updated 10.31)

M2RB: Van Halen

Resist We Much on October 31, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Iowa joins Texas

“Iowa has joined Texas in warning international election observers of possible criminal prosecution if they violate state laws and get near polling places on Election Day.

Iowa Secretary of State Matt Schultz — like Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott last week — on Tuesday threatened Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe election observers with arrest if they came within 300 feet of a polling place’s entrance, in violation of state law. (In Texas, it’s 100 feet.)…”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/83108.html#ixzz2AuMrHgG2

workingclass artist on October 31, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Still have no idea how media still insist that Romney is losing, but the only explanation so far is that communist lite, aka “libertarians”, will vote against Romney. No other explanation with the numbers I am seeing and with local media flooded with communist lite emails and newspaper responses.

riddick on October 31, 2012 at 2:00 PM

So, the libertarians in NE vote R in Senate & house, and against Romney…the vote against romney doesn’t surprise me that much, the libertarians are Dems’ strange bedfellows (guess it’s the pot thing, etc) , but why then would they vote R for the the two chambers?? And then vote O for preezy?? Really???

jimver on October 31, 2012 at 4:03 PM

This just a transparent ploy to suppress GOP and Indy vote

rik on October 31, 2012 at 1:39 PM

WHAT?
Voter suppression?

Who would do such a thing?

chumpThreads on October 31, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Dems mannufacture votes usually, that’s their speciality in the voterf fraud realm…

jimver on October 31, 2012 at 4:05 PM

breaking news…President Obama up 8 in Wisconsin again by Marquette Poll ( a poll the GOP loved mid October)…. also the GOP convention keynoter Christie loving the President and Big Government on live tv …

U2denver on October 31, 2012 at 2:17 PM

U done beatin’ it in front of that poll already?? Ok,now, tell us again why obysmal was so worried about Jersey, again, I thought it was a safe state for him…

jimver on October 31, 2012 at 4:08 PM

communist lite, aka “libertarians”, will vote against Romney.

riddick on October 31, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Are you deranged? How exactly are libertarians similar to Communists?

eyedoc on October 31, 2012 at 4:19 PM

Oh, that’s right. O’bamna is already winning New Jersey by 12. Why is he even bothering to campaign there? Desperation, that’s why.

F-

Del Dolemonte on October 31, 2012 at 2:27 PM

He’s in New Jersey because he’s getting blown out so badly that he knows it doesn’t really matter where he goes.

eyedoc on October 31, 2012 at 4:23 PM

communist lite, aka “libertarians”, will vote against Romney.

riddick on October 31, 2012 at 2:00 PM

I’m a libertarian and I’ve been waiting for 4 years to cast my vote against “Mr Social-Justice/When-We-Spread-The-Wealth-Around/At-Some-Point-You’ve-Made-Enough-Money/Take-The-Pain-Pill/Bumps-In-The-Road/The-Future-Must-Not-Belong-To-Those-Who-Slander-The-Prophet-Mohammed/Allahu-Ahkbar=Workplace-Violence/You-Didn’t-Build-That” and I will crawl over broken glass if I have to in order to do so. In fact, I can’t wait!

I don’t think that you have the slightest idea of what a libertarian is.

Resist We Much on October 31, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Now we just need to make sure that are the voting machines out there are “calibrated” properly, and not skimming off votes for the Prez anymore.

JFS61 on October 31, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Trolls here are simply pathetic. Remind me again why y’all like them.

Bmore on October 31, 2012 at 4:59 PM

I think what is funny is Romney throwing away money in states like MI, PA and MN. States everyone knows he will never win.

HotAirLib

You must think it’s REALLY REALLY funny that Obama is throwing away money in Michigan and Pennsylvania then….2 states everyone knows he will never lose.

WHAT?
Voter suppression?

Who would do such a thing?

chumpThread

Democrats. Duh.

xblade on October 31, 2012 at 5:05 PM

Any poll showing a sample of D+3 or higher is not worth wiping your rear end with. Turnout is forecasted to go R+1.

The TOTUS will be in his mcmansion in Hawaii by Jan 22nd.

Dick Nixon on October 31, 2012 at 5:19 PM

WHAT?
Voter suppression?

Who would do such a thing?

chumpThreads on October 31, 2012 at 2:40 PM

communists and leftists

Strike Hornet on October 31, 2012 at 5:26 PM

This poll is good for a laugh, but that’s about it. ~Ed

Which of their polls haven’t been?

PPP is nothing more than a Dem group trying to masquerade as an independent polling group. Probably funded by Soros.

Sporty1946 on October 31, 2012 at 5:31 PM

> POSTED AT 12:41 PM ON OCTOBER 31, 2012 BY ED MORRISSEY

By the way Moz, have you checked the RealClearPolitics General Election poll tracker recently?:-) Looks like Mitt’s “formidable” 0.9% lead just vanished:-) All of a sudden the candidates are tied again! Naaah…can’t possible happen can it?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

MARCU$

mlindroo on October 31, 2012 at 6:02 PM

mlindroo on October 31, 2012 at 6:02 PM

Moron.

The Fox News poll which has created the phoney tie oversamples Ds and undersamples Independents. Unbelievably it is: D42, R37, I18.

Stupid Fox poll here.

Basilsbest on October 31, 2012 at 7:08 PM

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