Gingrich: A “reliable Senator” tells me two networks have stand-down e-mails from Donilon’s office

posted at 12:01 pm on October 31, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Via the Daily Caller, Newt Gingrich thinks that the Benghazi scandal might blow wide open over the next two days, thanks to e-mails that he claims two networks now possess from the office of the National Security Advisor, Tom Donilon.  According to a “reliable Senator” who tipped him to the information, Gingrich says that the e-mails came in response to the request to aid the consulate in Benghazi after the attack began, and asserted that the attack wasn’t a terrorist action and therefore didn’t need a response:

“There is a rumor — I want to be clear, it’s a rumor — that at least two networks have emails from the National Security Adviser’s office telling a counterterrorism group to stand down,” Gingrich said. “But they were a group in real-time trying to mobilize marines and C-130s and the fighter aircraft, and they were told explicitly by the White House stand down and do nothing. This is not a terrorist action. If that is true, and I’ve been told this by a fairly reliable U.S. senator, if that is true and comes out, I think it raises enormous questions about the president’s role, and Tom Donilon, the National Security Adviser’s role, the Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, who has taken it on his own shoulders, that he said don’t go. And that is, I think, very dubious, given that the president said he had instructions they are supposed to do everything they could to secure American personnel.”

That may not be the only scandal that Gingrich thinks will go prime time this week, either:

After noting that the rumor, if true, would have a substantial impact on the presidential election, Gingrich pointed to another possible “October surprise” in the coming days.

“The other big story, I think, that is going to break is on corruption and extraordinary waste in the solar power grants and direct involvement by the Obama White House, including the president, in the solar panel grants involving billions of dollars, and I suspect that’s going to break Wednesday and Thursday of this week,” Gingrich added.

Well, why won’t the “reliable Senator” speak up about the e-mails directly?  I’d guess that the e-mails have been kept close to the vest at the White House end, but that someone on the other end in the intel community gave them to the “reliable Senator” either simultaneously as they were sent to the two networks, or the “reliable Senator” passed them along himself.  It’s all about plausible deniability on the leak, especially since we won’t see any action in the Senate on Benghazi until after the election — not because it’s Democratic-controlled, but because they’re all back home with Congress out of session for the election.

Gingrich could be fishing, but specifying that two networks have the e-mails makes it sound like Gingrich got some inside dope.  If these e-mails surface, it will create a huge headache for Barack Obama and the White House, which insisted that it didn’t deny assistance to Benghazi during the attack.  Donilon works in the White House, directly answering to Obama himself.  While Donilon would probably fall on his sword (or have an underling do so) if these e-mails say what Gingrich claims, there’s little chance that anyone will buy that Donilon or his staff took that decision on their own shoulders.

CNS News has another piece of the puzzle.  At the time that the consulate in Benghazi came under attack, Obama and Leon Panetta were in a meeting together.  What did they discuss?  The White House refuses to say:

President Barack Obama met with Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Vice President Joe Biden at the White House on Sept. 11, 2012 at 5:00 PM—just 55 minutes after the State Department notified the White House and the Pentagon that the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi was under attack.

The meeting between Obama, Panetta and Biden had been scheduled before the attack took place, and the Department of Defense is not commenting now on whether the three men were aware when they met that day of the ongoing attack or whether Obama used that meeting to discuss with his defense secretary what should be done to defend the U.S. personnel who at that very moment were fighting for their lives in Benghazi.

“Secretary Panetta met with President Obama, as the White House-provided scheduled indicates,” Lt. Col. Todd Breasseale, a Defense Department spokesman, told CNSNews.com on Tuesday. “However, neither the content nor the subject of discussions between the President and his advisors are appropriate for disclosure.”

It’s impossible to imagine that the subject of the attack on the consulate didn’t come up in this discussion.  It’s also impossible to imagine that Donilon would have made the decision to “stand down” on his own while both the President and the Secretary of Defense were meeting in the White House after being notified of the attack.  It’s equally impossible to imagine that Panetta would have made that decision without checking with Obama during the meeting that we know they had an hour into the attack.

This leak, if it occurs, would show that the intel community has no intention of taking the fall for this debacle.  That leaves a very small number of people who could have made that decision — and who need to start explaining themselves ASAP.

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a transparent administration wouldn’t have this problem.

rob verdi on October 31, 2012 at 12:03 PM

If those networks are ABC, CBS, MSNBC, NBC, NBC or CNN, they’ll never see the light of day.

On the other hand, an order to abandon Americans under fire would have to be in writing. No CO would hang people out to dry on a voco order.

Of course, before Benghazi, I’d have sworn no CO would have hung people out to dry under any conditions.

Washington Nearsider on October 31, 2012 at 12:03 PM

Well why doesn’t Newt call out that US Senator? Is this the same type of crap Reid pulled with his “reliable source?” I have no doubt that Obama is hiding the truth, but Newt needs to just come out and say it.

MoreLiberty on October 31, 2012 at 12:04 PM

If one of the networks isn’t Fox or wasn’t addressed to Jake Tapper, its not going to come to light til after the election.

Zaggs on October 31, 2012 at 12:04 PM

“Release the kraken!!” (publish the e-mails!!)
/BISHOP!!

Khun Joe on October 31, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Gingrich is putting pressure on these “2 networks” to release them. Plus I am sure he wants to get “Benghazi” back out in the political field after having been overrun with Sandy coverage.

Let’s hope he’s right.

portlandon on October 31, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Gingrich could be fishing, but specifying that two networks have the e-mails makes it sound like Gingrich got some inside dope.

Or he thinks one network has something but is sitting on it. Might goad them into doing their jobs if they think they might get scooped.

forest on October 31, 2012 at 12:06 PM

We will never see them.

tim c on October 31, 2012 at 12:06 PM

I’m not saying you’re wrong, Newt.

I’m just saying I’ll believe it when it’s proven.

Till then, this news is “false hope.”

listens2glenn on October 31, 2012 at 12:06 PM

“Never heard of it.” ~Charles Gibson

Joe Mama on October 31, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Anyone surprised about corruption and scandal in this administration.

chemman on October 31, 2012 at 12:07 PM

two networks have stand-down e-mails from Donilon’s office

Assuming this is true, why are they sitting on them?

That leaves a very small number of people who could have made that decision — and who need to start explaining themselves ASAP.

Those people have an interest in waiting to see who will be the next President before speaking up. Only then can they can make the best deal for themselves.

farsighted on October 31, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Smells of desperation. Would Republicans really release this if they actually knew they were leading in the polls?

Obama has an easy counter – reminding the American people that Romney would have had roughly a 50-50 chance of going in and taking out Bin Laden if the opportunity arose. Obama, without hesitation, went in there and put the bastard down.

akaniku on October 31, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Newt ain’t Donald Trump. He’s probably not BS’ing us about this. The question is will this come out within the next 6 days.

Doughboy on October 31, 2012 at 12:08 PM

“Reliable Senator.”

Isn’t that an oxymoron?

rrpjr on October 31, 2012 at 12:08 PM

http://www.aei-ideas.org/2012/10/distrust-but-verify/

I posted this in the other Libya thread, but I figure…why not post again?

Here’s Paul Wolfowitz’s relaying from an inside source that claims that the White House in fact did do all that they could do (which is frightening to think that our capabilities are so slight).

It is hard to understand why Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, in discussing the US response to the attacks on two US facilities in Benghazi, Libya, offered this novel principle as a guide for US action – or inaction – during that crisis: “A basic principle is you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on.”

Of course, no such “basic principle” governs the conduct of US military personnel in Afghanistan and elsewhere, who regularly go “into harm’s way” without “knowing what’s going on,” particularly when they know that American lives are in danger.

Panetta’s comment made it inevitable that people would question – as I did myself – President Obama’s claim that “The minute I found out what was happening . . . I gave the directive to make sure we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to do. I guarantee you everybody in the CIA and military knew the number-one priority was making sure our people are safe.” If that was true, did Panetta’s comment mean that the military was disregarding a clear instruction from the president?

From what I can determine from talking with someone who has spoken directly with key general officers and others involved in the US response to the Benghazi attacks, it would appear that – contrary to Panetta’s “basic principle” – the US did almost everything possible to protect our people once the attacks had started, though not in advance:

The Consulate was overrun in a matter of minutes, before any help was possible.

A team that appears to have been CIA personnel deployed quickly (and bravely) from the Annex to the Consulate and rescued everyone they found alive there. (It’s not clear whether Ambassador Stevens had already been taken by Libyans to the hospital or whether they simply failed to find him.)

A mainly CIA response force deployed quickly from Tripoli to reinforce the Annex and facilitate its successful evacuation.

Decision makers in Washington appear to have been leaning forward, as they should have been. The military’s most capable rescue force, based on the East Coast, was deployed immediately (something that is very rarely done), but – given the distances involved – arrived at Sigonella only after the crisis was over.

Also, the European command (EUCOM) deployed its number one counter terrorism force, which was training in central Europe, as quickly as possible, but it arrived in Sigonella after the evacuation of the Annex was complete.

Other special forces deployed to Sigonella but arrived on the 12th after it was too late to make a difference in Benghazi.

There was no AC-130 gunship in the region.

The only drone available in Libya was an unarmed surveillance drone which was quickly moved from Darna to Benghazi, but the field of view of these drones is limited and, in any case, this one was not armed.

The only other assets immediately available were F-16 fighter jets based at Aviano, Italy. These aircraft might have reached Benghazi while the fight at the Annex was still going on, but they would have had difficulty pinpointing hostile mortar positions or distinguishing between friendly and hostile militias in the midst of a confused firefight in a densely populated residential area where there would have been a high likelihood of civilian casualties. While two more Americans were tragically killed by a mortar strike on the Annex, it’s not clear that deploying F-16’s would have prevented that. In any case, the decision not to do so was made by the tactical commander, General Ham, as it should have been.

DeathtotheSwiss on October 31, 2012 at 12:08 PM

This, if proves to be true, will get stalled and bhopress will not do squat give viewers news negative about bho? I would love for someone, anyone to have proof bho is involved saying ‘stand down’!
L

letget on October 31, 2012 at 12:09 PM

hmmmm

MeatHeadinCA on October 31, 2012 at 12:09 PM

I’ll tell you what I love the most about reading Ed’s posts. I love his deadpan sense of humor. To wit:

If these e-mails surface, it will create a huge headache for Barack Obama

Yeah, well, that’s not going to happen. Not before the election, anyway.

rogaineguy on October 31, 2012 at 12:09 PM

I love the “reliable Senator” premise that Gingrich uses. Hey, if Harry Reid and the Obama admin can play this game with Romney taxes lets hit them with a “mysterious reliable Senator” who whispers in Newt’s ear about some emails about Benghazi that have yet to be released and will prove to be fatally damaging to Barack Obama. I like it.

Zetterson on October 31, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Let’s hope at least one of those networks isn’t the whole way in the tank. FNC? Univision? Comedy Central?

forest on October 31, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Romney would have had roughly a 50-50 chance of going in and taking out Bin Laden if the opportunity arose. Obama, without hesitation, went in there and put the bastard down.

akaniku on October 31, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Yes, Barry went in himself.
What a hero.
Swoon.

/s

Joe Mama on October 31, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Obama, without hesitation, went in there and put the bastard down.

akaniku on October 31, 2012 at 12:07 PM

I once took 16 hours to act without hesitation too.

Bishop on October 31, 2012 at 12:10 PM

[NBC,CBS,ABC]: Benghazi emails? Never heard of it.

WisRich on October 31, 2012 at 12:10 PM

I cannot imagine seeing our people in mortal danger and not doing anything and everything you could to get them help. Worse yet, jetting off the Vegas for fundraisers knowing what is transpiring. And to read about how they treated the victim’s families, how Biden made inappropriate JOKES about it to their faces? Heartless, gutless wonders, the whole bunch.

changer1701 on October 31, 2012 at 12:10 PM

I agree, there’s nothing here until there’s something here.

WashingtonsWake on October 31, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Frankly, it seems nobody really cares….

And as for the voters, this “bombshell” is meaningless.

Most of them have no idea Ben Gazarra died this past February.

A few might recall his being an actor…

But, other than that, what’s Ben Gazarra’s e-mails have to do with this election, anyway?

What’s that?

Ben Gazzi?

Who’s that?

Benghazi?

What’s that?

In Libya?

You’ve lost me.

Anyway…that Romney guy really likes to steal other people’s money, doesn’t he…heard he was the bane of capital or something.

{If Gingrich has the goods…then time is fleeting…spill the beans…now…or shut up, Newt, and go home…finally.)

coldwarrior on October 31, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Or he thinks one network has something but is sitting on it. Might goad them into doing their jobs if they think they might get scooped.

forest

Then he would have named the networks

Zaggs on October 31, 2012 at 12:11 PM

This isn’t the same source as Harry Reid’s is it?

vcferlita on October 31, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Obama, without hesitation, went in there and put the bastard down.

akaniku on October 31, 2012 at 12:07 PM

After cancelling the mission three times.

Washington Nearsider on October 31, 2012 at 12:11 PM

If those networks are ABC, CBS, MSNBC, NBC, NBC or CNN, they’ll never see the light of day.

On the other hand, an order to abandon Americans under fire would have to be in writing. No CO would hang people out to dry on a voco order.

Of course, before Benghazi, I’d have sworn no CO would have hung people out to dry under any conditions.

Washington Nearsider on October 31, 2012 at 12:03 PM

They cannot be concealed forever. Too many people know. “reliable Senator” spammed the email out to insure exposure. Is this more disinformation?

Remember people, what matters is this: The President was notified within minutes of the attack. The attack lasted seven or more hours. Four Americans died, because the President did nothing to save them. HE WENT TO BED.

dogsoldier on October 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM

Well, one this is for sure. We can count on the media not to investigate. (Minus Fox of course)

reddevil on October 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM

“However, neither the content nor the subject of discussions between the President and his advisors are appropriate for disclosure.”

 
O- Vegas.
P- I don’t know. I haven’t been in years. I’ve heard the Bellagio is good.
O- Nah, did that last time. We want somewhere we can get better catering, too.
P- Better?
O- Yeah, their lobster is shipped in every third day.
P- I see.
JB- And you know what they say about seafood.
P- Mr. Vice President, I think that means something else.
O- What else could it mean?
JB- Listen to this guy. Talking like he knows something about seafood. Fine, genius. What else could it mean?
O- Yeah, what else could it mean?

rogerb on October 31, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Obama, without hesitation, went in there and put the bastard down.

akaniku on October 31, 2012 at 12:07 PM

FTFY

Joe Mama on October 31, 2012 at 12:13 PM

President Obama’s claim that “The minute I found out what was happening . . . I gave the directive to make sure we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to do. I guarantee you everybody in the CIA and military knew the number-one priority was making sure our people are safe.”

DeathtotheSwiss on October 31, 2012 at 12:08 PM

Which minute was that, Obama? The minute you learned it was a spontaneous protest? Or the minute you learned it was a terrorist attack? And when, exactly, was that minute?

Further, if you knew enough about “what was happening” to issue a “directive” why is such a long silent behind closed doors internal investigation necessary? What, exactly, did you find out was happening? Why won’t you tell the American people exactly what it is you “found out” that led you to issue that “directive”?

And if what Wolfowitz says is true why wouldn’t everyone in the admin and the MSM be tripping all over each other to get those facts out before public ASAP? Like so many other things about Benghazi, it doesn’t add up.

farsighted on October 31, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Obama, without hesitation, went in there and put the bastard down.
akaniku on October 31, 2012 at 12:07 PM

A tad bit early to be drinking, isn’t it?

You have to be someone’s sock puppet. No one could be this intentionally stupid.

kingsjester on October 31, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Obama has an easy counter

akaniku on October 31, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Riiiight. That al Qaeda has been defeated or something.

John the Libertarian on October 31, 2012 at 12:13 PM

“Just 55 minutes”?!?!?!?!?

“Just” 55 minutes……

I’d like to see Terrence P. Jeffrey be shot at for “just” 55 minutes and then re-write this article. I wonder if the wording would change “a little bit”.

Idiot.

KMC1 on October 31, 2012 at 12:14 PM

I posted this in the other Libya thread, but I figure…why not post again?

DeathtotheSwiss

I doubt that version. Mainly because there would have been no reason not to be forth-coming with that story. If you did all you could, you can tell people that. But thats what they have been saying. Also, where are the orders? Lastly, F-16′s may have not been able to commenced pinpoint attacks, but an attack jet screaming over head does make someone only armed with a rifle think twice about what they are doing. Not to mention what a short burst of 20 mike-mikes will do to someone.

Zaggs on October 31, 2012 at 12:14 PM

That leaves a very small number of people who could have made that decision — and who need to start explaining themselves ASAP.

Yup… 1 is a pretty damned small number all right. My money is on the number of people who made the gutsy call to deny Ty Woods and Glen Doherty the help they were requesting being exactly the same as the number of people who authorized Operation Fast and Furious.

SWalker on October 31, 2012 at 12:14 PM

Obama, without hesitation, went in there and put the bastard down.

akaniku on October 31, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Really? Obama did? Isn’t it just like a tool sucking on Obama to take credit away from our Seals and place it firmly in the hands of the useless president?

Zetterson on October 31, 2012 at 12:14 PM

Two networks:
FOX News and… Univision?

Droopy on October 31, 2012 at 12:15 PM

Well, why won’t the “reliable Senator” speak up about the e-mails directly? I’d guess that the e-mails have been kept close to the vest at the White House end, but that someone on the other end in the intel community gave them to the “reliable Senator” either simultaneously as they were sent to the two networks, or the “reliable Senator” passed them along himself.

.
You don’t tug on Superman’s cape.
You don’t spit into the wind.
You don’t pull the mask off the ol’ Lone Ranger …
And you don’t mess around with the CIA.

Anyone want to take bets AGAINST a flood of leaks hitting ALL of OLD and NEW media by no later than 5:00 PM on Friday?

(Apologies to the late Jim Croce who did some wonderful songs and died far too young.)

PolAgnostic on October 31, 2012 at 12:15 PM

Obama, without hesitation, went in there and put the bastard down.

akaniku on October 31, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Try selling that lie somewhere else. Obama had no clue what was going on. Hillary and Panetta went around Zero and Jarrett. OBlamo was out playing golf and was notified after the op started.

If he knew it was going to happen he would have been there already, dummy, for the photo op. He lives for those.

dogsoldier on October 31, 2012 at 12:15 PM

I agree, there’s nothing here until there’s something here.

WashingtonsWake on October 31, 2012 at 12:10 PM

On a tactical level, he’s forcing Benghazi back into the news cycle.

John the Libertarian on October 31, 2012 at 12:16 PM

My Spidey sense is telling me that there is going to be some Executive Privileged coming out soon.

jukin3 on October 31, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Smells of desperation. Would Republicans really release this if they actually knew they were leading in the polls?

Obama has an easy counter – reminding the American people that Romney would have had roughly a 50-50 chance of going in and taking out Bin Laden if the opportunity arose. Obama, without hesitation, went in there and put the bastard down.

akaniku on October 31, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Sock puppet or just a run-of-the-mill incorrigible locked-bedroom-door adolescent cod slapper?

Dime IV on October 31, 2012 at 12:16 PM

According to a “reliable Senator” who tipped him to the information, Gingrich says that the e-mails came in response to the request to aid the consulate in Benghazi after the attack began, and asserted that the attack wasn’t a terrorist action and therefore didn’t need a response:

Because the White House was expecting a protest WRT the video. They simply assumed that the attack was a preplanned “spontaneous” riot over a film that insulted Mohammed, which would help reinforce the notion that free speech has to be curtailed so as not to allow for “religious bigotry,” and not an actual assault on our consulate. Innocence of Muslims is to the First Amendment as Fast & Furious is to the Second Amendment — false flag operations designed to curtail our civil liberties.

rbj on October 31, 2012 at 12:17 PM

After Mitt wins can we investigate the networks? We have to stop this press that is putting all of us in danger to protect the career of one man.

I know we don’t want to censer the media… but we don’t have a free press now. I am certain there have to be people at the networks who want to go after the story. But someone is holding them back. If it is network execs… we need to find them and put a stop to their censorship.

We have to get a free press back.

petunia on October 31, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Fox and ABC (Tapper) ???

djl130 on October 31, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Sigonella is 480 miles from Benghazi, how long would it take F-16′s at mach to reach the city?

Rip over the city at supersonic and break a few hundred windows will get you noticed. Those SEAL’s fought for seven hours alone, they deserved something, anything in the way of assistance.

Bishop on October 31, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Really, Newt?

A reliable Senator?

You sure it wasn’t another mythical being, like a Pegasus or a Gryphon?

LegendHasIt on October 31, 2012 at 12:18 PM

Obama, without hesitation, went in there and put the bastard down.

akaniku on October 31, 2012 at 12:07 PM

President GH Bush kicked Sadaam’s butt, pushed the whole Iraqi Army out of Kuwait, performed Operation Desert Storm, had high performance numbers, and lost the election because of his economic bumbling.

Killing Osama won’t win Barry an election.

portlandon on October 31, 2012 at 12:18 PM

Anyone want to take bets AGAINST a flood of leaks hitting ALL of OLD and NEW media by no later than 5:00 PM on Friday?

(Apologies to the late Jim Croce who did some wonderful songs and died far too young.)

PolAgnostic on October 31, 2012 at 12:15 PM

I expect a bunch of stuff will start coming out some time this afternoon…

Obama has made a lot of enemies and the humpleg media sees that he is headed for crushing defeat, so they will desert the sinking ship soon…

dogsoldier on October 31, 2012 at 12:18 PM

I love how with these libs every event is a brilliant way for Obama to win the election.
Big storm? Great for Obama.
Romney up in Ohio? Great for Obama.
Bill Clinton being deployed to Minnesota? Great for Obama.
Obama letting our people die in Benghazi while they beg for help? Great for Obama.
Economy in the tank? Great for Obama.
Axelrod promising to shave his stache? Great for Obama.

It would be funny if it wasn’t so sad.

happytobehere on October 31, 2012 at 12:18 PM

DeathtotheSwiss on October 31, 2012 at 12:08 PM

Well, why don’t they come right out and say this then? Would you keep this a secret or rely on some backdoor method to get an explanation out?

Vince on October 31, 2012 at 12:18 PM

akaniku on October 31, 2012 at 12:07 PM

New troll is week.

wargamer6 on October 31, 2012 at 12:18 PM

It’s impossible to imagine that the subject of the attack on the consulate didn’t come up in this discussion.

One would assume the 5PM meeting with Panetta would have included a discussion about Benghazi and Egypt. Now they refuse to say whether or not they did? Odd.

The following day on the 12th there is no listing for PDB unless he received a briefing during his meeting with State.

Cody1991 on October 31, 2012 at 12:19 PM

happytobehere on October 31, 2012 at 12:18 PM

Welcome to gumby’s world.

wargamer6 on October 31, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Rip over the city at supersonic and break a few hundred windows will get you noticed. Those SEAL’s fought for seven hours alone, they deserved something, anything in the way of assistance.

Bishop on October 31, 2012 at 12:17 PM

A little fly-by canon fire, would have helped.

dogsoldier on October 31, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Obama, without hesitation, went in there and put the bastard down.

akaniku on October 31, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Actually, the SEALs went in. He just made the gutsy call.

hawkdriver on October 31, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Not to mention what a short burst of 20 mike-mikes will do to someone.

Punches holes the size of softballs through concrete and turns people into pink mist.

One pass, and the fight would have been over, regardless of enemy casualties.

Washington Nearsider on October 31, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Well why doesn’t Newt call out that US Senator? Is this the same type of crap Reid pulled with his “reliable source?” I have no doubt that Obama is hiding the truth, but Newt needs to just come out and say it.

MoreLiberty on October 31, 2012 at 12:04 PM

That’s kind of what I thought as well. However, we can make it different by not reacting the way the rank-and-file libs did. That a vague accusation from Reid equals an indictment of Romney. We can say “I’d like to see if it’s true.” and go on with our day.

The real problem with Reid was you’re supposed to take Reid’s confidence in his source as nearly proof. So if we treat scuttlebutt as scuttlebutt, we’re already that far ahead.

Axeman on October 31, 2012 at 12:20 PM

coldwarrior on October 31, 2012 at 12:11 PM

.
That was way cool! : )

listens2glenn on October 31, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Had I gotten the Emails I’d have sent one copy to Fox and one to Sharyl Atkisson.

HondaV65 on October 31, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Obama, without hesitation, went in there and put the bastard down.

akaniku on October 31, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Sure, that’s the ticket. Unhesitatingly — after weeks of tortured conversations with Valerie Jarrett.

Then, also unhesitatingly, he compromised and exploited the Navy Seals like no president in history, leading some of its members to warn their families after their covers had been blown.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2137636/Osama-bin-Laden-death-SEALs-slam-Obama-using-ammunition-bid-credit.html

rrpjr on October 31, 2012 at 12:20 PM

The speculation this won’t come out till after the election may be true, but, it appears Mitt has the upper hand in the election anyway. This won’t go away after the election…with any luck Barry will spend his lame duck period playing defense on the matter and may not have the ability to create as much mischief as he might otherwise.

a capella on October 31, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Fox and ABC (Tapper) ???

djl130 on October 31, 2012 at 12:17 PM

That’s my guess.

gophergirl on October 31, 2012 at 12:20 PM

This leak, if it occurs, would show that the intel community has no intention of taking the fall for this debacle. That leaves a very small number of people who could have made that decision — and who need to start explaining themselves ASAP.

The IC is going to be around after this administration leaves. They have no interest in taking the political hit for incompetence by the rat-eared wonder and his administration. Face it you have politicians running State, DoD, and the CIA (yeah I know Patraeus is a retired General but he’s still a politician). None of these people are there for any reason other than to prop up the rat-eared wonder. All have lied to protect his role in the Benghazi massacre.

It would be sweet justice to see the October surprise come out to help the challenger.

Happy Nomad on October 31, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Punches holes the size of softballs through concrete and turns people into pink mist.

One pass, and the fight would have been over, regardless of enemy casualties.

Washington Nearsider on October 31, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Yes.

dogsoldier on October 31, 2012 at 12:21 PM

there’s little chance that anyone will buy that Donilon or his staff took that decision on their own shoulders.

Don’t be so sure Ed. Wasn’t it “renegade ATF agents” in Phoenix that started “Fast and Furious” on their own?

GarandFan on October 31, 2012 at 12:21 PM

If “everything” that could have been done was done, why would there need to be a “stand down” order to the military? Wouldn’t whatever mission was proposed and in the process of being prepared by part pf “everything” that could have been done?

Were the SEALs begging for help, three time, told none was coming, three times? Why did they keep asking if they were told the first time none was coming? Were they told why none was coming, three times?

So many questions. So few answers and explanations. So little information coming from the WH. That is, other than Barry saying “you can trust me” in his best Nixonian “I am not a crook” dialect.

farsighted on October 31, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Nope if FOX had the e-mails they would already be making headlines. Sandy isnt dominating the news cycle like yesterday. Some lib network must have the e-mails (I also think its only one and Newt tries to goad them) and if these e-mails wont share the fate of the Khalidy speech tapes, we wont see them before Nov 7th in any case.

Valkyriepundit on October 31, 2012 at 12:22 PM

That is… be part of “everything” that could have been done?

farsighted on October 31, 2012 at 12:22 PM

My guess on the two networks holding the emails – FOX and CBS. Yes, CBS. They’re the only one of the three originals to show any stones on the FF debacle, so I’m guessing they’re doing shoe-leather work on Bengahzi as well. There are still reporters with that network that try to get a story, even though their bosses might muzzle their work. We’ll see. If I’m wrong, I’ll shave my mustache, which I do every morning anyway…

joejm65 on October 31, 2012 at 12:22 PM

I’m guessing those two networks are Democrat reliable rather than truth reliable.

SpiderMike on October 31, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Don’t be so sure Ed. Wasn’t it “renegade ATF agents” in Phoenix that started “Fast and Furious” on their own?

GarandFan on October 31, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Sarc tag?

dogsoldier on October 31, 2012 at 12:23 PM

there’s little chance that anyone will buy that Donilon or his staff took that decision on their own shoulders.

Don’t be so sure Ed. Wasn’t it “renegade ATF agents” in Phoenix that started “Fast and Furious” on their own?

GarandFan on October 31, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Sure it was…

SWalker on October 31, 2012 at 12:24 PM

If Obama loses this race, expect the media to cover this with gusto. If Obama wins, not so much.

lorien1973 on October 31, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Obama, without hesitation, went in there and put the bastard down.

akaniku on October 31, 2012 at 12:07 PM

That comment smells of desperation.

bopbottle on October 31, 2012 at 12:24 PM

A tad bit early to be drinking, isn’t it?

You have to be someone’s sock puppet. No one could be this intentionally stupid.

kingsjester on October 31, 2012 at 12:13 PM

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You can always forward this link to “The Won-coholics”

http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/

PolAgnostic on October 31, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Obama has an easy counter – reminding the American people that Romney would have had roughly a 50-50 chance of going in and taking out Bin Laden if the opportunity arose. Obama, without hesitation, went in there and put the bastard down.

akaniku on October 31, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Obama called the SEALs and he got Osama Bin Ladin. The SEALs called Obama and they got denied.

This betrayal and not OBL is the rat-eared wonder’s political problem.

Happy Nomad on October 31, 2012 at 12:24 PM

MSNBC: “How about that BIG STORM!?!?!?”

KS Rex on October 31, 2012 at 12:25 PM

The administration was afraid of losing aircraft to anti-aircraft missiles they supplied to jihadis.

Howcome on October 31, 2012 at 12:25 PM

Nope if FOX had the e-mails they would already be making headlines. Sandy isnt dominating the news cycle like yesterday. Some lib network must have the e-mails (I also think its only one and Newt tries to goad them) and if these e-mails wont share the fate of the Khalidy speech tapes, we wont see them before Nov 7th in any case.

Valkyriepundit on October 31, 2012 at 12:22 PM

If Fox has them they will want to reveal the information in a manner most effective for THEM. Which may mean some organized, produced news package. Just saying.

dogsoldier on October 31, 2012 at 12:25 PM

“The other big story, I think, that is going to break is on corruption and extraordinary waste in the solar power grants and direct involvement by the Obama White House, including the president, in the solar panel grants involving billions of dollars, and I suspect that’s going to break Wednesday and Thursday of this week,” Gingrich added.

…most of them were involved in JugEars campaign before they got the money…so this is a shock or something?

KOOLAID2 on October 31, 2012 at 12:25 PM

Obama has an easy counter – reminding the American people that Romney would have had roughly a 50-50 chance of going in and taking out Bin Laden if the opportunity arose. Obama, without hesitation, went in there and put the bastard down.

akaniku on October 31, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Now that is a funny parody of a leftist talking point. “50/50 chance”. Obama went in and put the sucker down!! With his patented kung-fu grip no less. That obama, he is a master of disguises. A better special ops agent than the Six Million Dollar Man! He makes gutsier calls than a call full of gutsies!

Monkeytoe on October 31, 2012 at 12:26 PM

Obama, without hesitation, went in there and put the bastard down.
akaniku on October 31, 2012 at 12:07 PM

A tad bit early to be drinking, isn’t it?

You have to be someone’s sock puppet. No one could be this intentionally stupid.

kingsjester on October 31, 2012 at 12:13 PM

It is Halloween, looks like we at HA got a bag of rocks.

MontanaMmmm on October 31, 2012 at 12:26 PM

Gingrich could be fishing, but specifying that two networks have the e-mails makes it sound like Gingrich got some inside dope. If these e-mails surface, it will create a huge headache for Barack Obama and the White House, which insisted that it didn’t deny assistance to Benghazi during the attack.

If this comes out and it’s true Obama is in deep kimchee definitely. This will also be the END of the MSM as we know it. I cannot imagine them surviving this level of complicity. Think about it, they would have been found sitting on a story simply because it would damage their chosen candidates chance for winning re-election. They would have wilfully placed a value higher for an election than the deaths of 4 Americans.

As to Obama I always knew he was diabolical but to jet off to Vegas for a fundraiser and to hang with Letterman after watching the brutal deaths of these good men would be beyond evil.

We MUST rid this country of the most corrupt, evil, lawless bunch that have ever been elevated to positions of power in our history.

neyney on October 31, 2012 at 12:27 PM

Must see!

Pics of the Day: The Barack Obama Business District

Resist We Much
on October 31, 2012 at 12:20 PM

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Wow. Perfect analogy.

listens2glenn on October 31, 2012 at 12:27 PM

MoreLiberty on October 31, 2012 at 12:04 PM

the “reliable senator” is most likely a democrat. and if he is outed he will be a pariah to them. not something you want to do to a potential future source. and as someone mentioned in a previous post this statement by gingrich puts pressure on those networks which is a good way to proceed at this point.

chasdal on October 31, 2012 at 12:27 PM

akaniku on October 31, 2012

..you’re a multi-drug user aren’t you?

KOOLAID2 on October 31, 2012 at 12:28 PM

You sure it wasn’t another mythical being, like a Pegasus or a Gryphon?

LegendHasIt on October 31, 2012 at 12:18 PM

I’m glad you did not say Lyger because they do exist.
Here, have some tots.

mechkiller_k on October 31, 2012 at 12:28 PM

If Fox has them they will want to reveal the information in a manner most effective for THEM. Which may mean some organized, produced news package. Just saying.

dogsoldier on October 31, 2012 at 12:25 PM

If FOX has them, I think they would want to publish them as soon as possible. The administration is playing on time and the closer you release this stuff to election day the less of an impact it might have. This story would have to get through a fog of denial and media desinterest. You cant publish it saturday or monday and expect much of an effect.

Valkyriepundit on October 31, 2012 at 12:28 PM

Sigonella is 480 miles from Benghazi, how long would it take F-16′s at mach to reach the city?

Rip over the city at supersonic and break a few hundred windows will get you noticed. Those SEAL’s fought for seven hours alone, they deserved something, anything in the way of assistance.

Bishop on October 31, 2012 at 12:17 PM

What do wanna bet that Obama gave the “stand down” order never guessing that the SEALS would disobey it and fight on? A dead Ambassador is bad enough but news slipping out about SEALS fighting back but getting no back up is a headache Barry never planned on.

Bitter Clinger on October 31, 2012 at 12:28 PM

Hope his source isn’t the same as Dingy Harry Reid’s source about Mitt’s tax returns.

VastRightWingConspirator on October 31, 2012 at 12:29 PM

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