Videos: Fires rage in NYC; 50 homes destroyed

posted at 7:31 am on October 30, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

We had a thread open on Hurricane Sandy’s impact on New Jersey and NYC last night, but this morning’s stories deserve a big update.  Overnight, the Rockaway Peninsula (Queens) went up in flames, with at least 50 homes destroyed before the gas could be turned off to the area.  WNBC captured this fearsome video:

View more videos at: http://nbcnewyork.com.

At least 50 homes have been destroyed in the Breezy Point section of the Rockaway peninsula in Queens, where firefighters battled a six-alarm fire early Tuesday.

Fire officials say the fire was reported at about 11 p.m. Monday and is located in a flooded Zone A area.

CNN got more video of the fire:

President Obama has now declared NYC and Long Island federal disaster areas. The rest of us should be praying — for the people who live there, and especially for the brave men and women who are the first responders.

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Holy crap.
Did everyone get out okay? Was it already evacuated?

Count to 10 on October 30, 2012 at 7:35 AM

Lord help those people in Queens NY. I pray for the firefighters, the homeowners, the utility workers and the police. Bless their work.

ted c on October 30, 2012 at 7:36 AM

Heartfelt prayers to all on the Eastern seaboard.

herm2416 on October 30, 2012 at 7:37 AM

the way those flames are whipping you’d think that you were watching a fire whipped by the Santa Ana winds in So Cal.

ted c on October 30, 2012 at 7:37 AM

prayers coming their way….holy cow….

is allah ok?

cmsinaz on October 30, 2012 at 7:37 AM

Oh wow. I’m not hearing about injuries or fatalities and that’s amazingly good news. Hope it continues. Prayers to everyone in the storm’s path.

CitizenEgg on October 30, 2012 at 7:37 AM

I’ll bet there’s going to be talk of canceling the election. Already it was mentioned yesterday at Jay Carney’s press briefing.

TarheelBen on October 30, 2012 at 7:37 AM

Last I heard, everyone managed to get out with only a few injuries but the fire must have spread terrifyingly fast with those winds.

Zybalto on October 30, 2012 at 7:38 AM

TarheelBen on October 30, 2012 at 7:37 AM

i don’t think they can do that…maybe delayed site specific but not for the enitre country i would imagine…

cmsinaz on October 30, 2012 at 7:39 AM

considering the great fires of the past in cities such as San Francisco, Savannah etc,. i’ve wondered if massive fires like this were possible anymore given that we have better responses, resources, etc. It appears that they certainly are and it’s likely that many of those homes are pretty old.

ted c on October 30, 2012 at 7:40 AM

yeah, how’s Allah? he’s in NYC proper, rite/

ted c on October 30, 2012 at 7:41 AM

Prayers from here in Idaho.

When Obama gets up and has had his breakfast…
That’s when we can start to heal..

Electrongod on October 30, 2012 at 7:51 AM

Obama is looking for a reason to issue and order to delay the elections by a week or two…

They are looking at this:
A scenario where 10-25% less New Yorkers go vote.
Sure Obama would still win New York…but his total US popular vote count would go down. Then when Obama loses the election he will not be able to say he won the popular vote, but lost the electoral vote.

albill on October 30, 2012 at 7:51 AM

i don’t think they can do that…maybe delayed site specific but not for the enitre country i would imagine…
cmsinaz on October 30, 2012 at 7:39 AM

Only congress could change the date and that would have to done through an amendment. The date will always be the first Tuesday in November till then.

lowandslow on October 30, 2012 at 7:53 AM

lowandslow on October 30, 2012 at 7:53 AM

read another link where in theory congress can give president the authority to delay the election…

cmsinaz on October 30, 2012 at 7:57 AM

Breezy Point’s location makes it probably the most isolated place in New York, on the southeastern tip of what’s for all intents and purposes a barrier island. It’s easy to see why in a storm like Sandy access for the fire department would be so difficult under conditions like this (and, sadly, given the normal overreaction of the city’s nanny state mayor and pols, I wouldn’t be shocked if the people who lost their homes aren’t allowed to rebuild because of Breezy Point being in such a vulnerable storm area).

jon1979 on October 30, 2012 at 7:58 AM

Prayers with those in the storms way and wake.

gwelf on October 30, 2012 at 8:00 AM

Obama is looking for a reason to issue and order to delay the elections by a week or two…

albill on October 30, 2012 at 7:51 AM

I am not sure he wants the election delayed. The dam will burst on Benghazi at some point. Obama wants this to happen after the election.

esr1951 on October 30, 2012 at 8:01 AM

the elections shall go on…..

there is no delay.

Bad news for obama will not get better with time.

ted c on October 30, 2012 at 8:03 AM

If they can hold an election during the civil war they can sure hold one a week after a big thunderstorm.

Capitalist Infidel on October 30, 2012 at 8:06 AM

Tragic. Prayers to all of them and everyone else affected by the storm.

Brat on October 30, 2012 at 8:07 AM

My thoughts are with the people of New York.

I wonder if President Obama is going to ask them about their Stafford dollar?

DeathtotheSwiss on October 30, 2012 at 8:08 AM

That is so awful.

gophergirl on October 30, 2012 at 8:10 AM

So, how long until we establish that this is Bush’s fault?

Stoic Patriot on October 30, 2012 at 8:12 AM

Thats Breezy Point burning, its a beautiful community located on the tip of an Island facing the Atlantic.

rob verdi on October 30, 2012 at 8:13 AM

Oh the humanity.
Very unfortunate, but suck it up and move on.

Norky on October 30, 2012 at 8:14 AM

Hoping the worst is over and those affected can start rebuilding. That said the best case scenario is that Mitt wins the EC and the popular vote decisively enough to put any legal, court, election stealing etc…. To rest. I hate to give them any excuses, like a storm, for Obamas loss. Of course the racist excuse will be what they tell themselves. We need to be able to put conservative ideas to work to repair the damage and get on the right track and that is much more likely to happen if we clearly win.

ldbgcoleman on October 30, 2012 at 8:15 AM

Heartfelt sympathy to all those who have lost a loved one and/or their home during this disaster.

And may God bless and keep our nation’s first responders.

Flora Duh on October 30, 2012 at 8:17 AM

Why does Obama hate white people? Why didn’t he stop this? I think it was Joe Bidens hurricane machine. I’m pretty sure the government blew up the sea wall to flood the area.

bsinc1962 on October 30, 2012 at 8:19 AM

Looks like sleeper cells have been activated to try to make HA commenters appear like heartless idiots.

Flora Duh on October 30, 2012 at 8:22 AM

I wonder why Tebow was traded to NY? If there is a phone vid of Tim putting out a fire or evacuating a kitten. Prepare for a movie.

Things will be fixed and life will go on. Obama will blame all this on the Bush weather machine that caused Katrina.

Pre-excuse. The place where alot of minorites vote was demolished by the storm. So they need to recast.

Wilborn Johanssen who died in 1893 had his hedgestone upended. It landed on a box checked for Obama and Biden. Vote early late and often.

Gedge on October 30, 2012 at 8:26 AM

considering the great fires of the past in cities such as San Francisco, Savannah etc,. i’ve wondered if massive fires like this were possible anymore given that we have better responses, resources, etc. It appears that they certainly are and it’s likely that many of those homes are pretty old.

ted c on October 30, 2012 at 7:40 AM

It’s the gas that is responsible for the massive fire. They couldn’t even try to contain it until gas was cut off to the entire area.

Spliff Menendez on October 30, 2012 at 8:27 AM

Yes. Sympathies and prayers to those involved in this disaster. It’d be a small miracle if no one died.

I hate to cheapen the sentiment with my opinion about how this might affect the election, but I have never known a more important election than this.

I fear that this could work in the President’s favor. It’s possible that the first time in four years that the man has appeared presidential could be during the aftermath of this disaster. Acts of God/nature like this can invoke the emotions of folks.

I know it sounds coarse, but my secondary hope is that any undecided voter remembers the entirety of the last four years.

RedCrow on October 30, 2012 at 8:31 AM

Worst disaster for Big Apple since 9/11.

Wasn’t there a plane crash shortly after 9/11 that killed some 80 people? I think that would be more of a disaster. I believe less than a dozen people have been killed by the storm.

Capitalist Infidel on October 30, 2012 at 8:32 AM

Wow, that’s brutal.

Bishop on October 30, 2012 at 8:35 AM

http://www.foxnews.com/weather/2012/10/30/hundreds-being-evacuated-after-levee-breaks-in-nj-town-due-to-sandy/

Hundreds of people are being evacuated after a levee broke in a northern New Jersey town early Tuesday.

Bergen County executive chief of staff Jeanne Baratta tells The Record newspaper the entire town of Moonachie is under water and as many as 1,000 people need to be evacuated.

bayview on October 30, 2012 at 8:35 AM

Oh the humanity.
Very unfortunate, but suck it up and move on.

Norky on October 30, 2012 at 8:14 AM

This is small, and doesn’t belong on this thread, or at this site.

massrighty on October 30, 2012 at 8:35 AM

This is small, and doesn’t belong on this thread, or at this site.

massrighty on October 30, 2012 at 8:35 AM

Neither does the thought police.

Norky on October 30, 2012 at 8:37 AM

It’s the gas that is responsible for the massive fire. They couldn’t even try to contain it until gas was cut off to the entire area.

Spliff Menendez on October 30, 2012 at 8:27 AM

I do wonder why the gas wasn’t shut off beforehand. Were these people were under an evacuation order? Did local authorities think the gas lines were fine and secure?

Maybe the storm and water surge were worse than they expected? Strange.

RedCrow on October 30, 2012 at 8:38 AM

Worst disaster for Big Apple since 9/11.

Wasn’t there a plane crash shortly after 9/11 that killed some 80 people? I think that would be more of a disaster. I believe less than a dozen people have been killed by the storm.

Capitalist Infidel on October 30, 2012 at 8:32

Yes, it happened in the Jamiaca Bay area (Queens)coming out
of Laguardia Airport. The story and tragedy was lost being
that it happened so soon after 9-11.

This kind of reporting is rampant. (See Shephard Smith
yesterday saying this is the worst storm in History)
Or some such nonsense.

ToddPA on October 30, 2012 at 8:40 AM

Flora Duh on October 30, 2012 at 8:22 AM

Yes I have noticed that. Sandy + Hussein’s impending loss have brought out the worst in some.

Brat on October 30, 2012 at 8:44 AM

Looks like sleeper cells have been activated to try to make HA commenters appear like heartless idiots.

Flora Duh on October 30, 2012 at 8:22 AM

They also try to frame us as Red Dawn Fantasists or geeks hoping for a zombie apocalypse.

Of course they’re right on that one.

Bishop on October 30, 2012 at 8:45 AM

Looking at the video from NYC this morning, starting to wonder if the Mayans weren’t right after all …

TouchdownBuddha on October 30, 2012 at 8:47 AM

This storm and all the subsequent tragedies from it are devastating. I do pray that order will be restored quickly and that these people receive proper assistance from their state and Federal Governments.

BUT,

I can’t help but wonder how all the families in the Midwest that were devastated by floods and tornado’s over the last few years feel about Obama finally stepping up and taking an interest in the consequences of natural disasters. He never showed up, or even commented about their losses. Guess it takes an election 8 days away to pique his interest.

BettyRuth on October 30, 2012 at 8:50 AM

This kind of reporting is rampant. (See Shephard Smith
yesterday saying this is the worst storm in History)
Or some such nonsense.

ToddPA on October 30, 2012 at 8:40 AM

It’s because it’s on the East Coast. Everything that happens out there is the “worst”.

I feel terrible for all those that have lost everything and the communities under water. However I also felt bad for Tenneessee when it happened to them, and Texas when it happened to them, and Colorado when it happened to them, and California when it happened to them, and the Gulf Coast when it happened to them, etc etc etc

gophergirl on October 30, 2012 at 8:57 AM

Neither does the thought police.

Norky on October 30, 2012 at 8:37 AM

Not here, sport.
I was commenting on your comment – that’s the opposite of censorship.

So, now we have two things we know about you;
1. You’re small in spirit.
2. You don’t really understand freedom of expression.

massrighty on October 30, 2012 at 8:57 AM

Wasn’t there a plane crash shortly after 9/11 that killed some 80 people? I think that would be more of a disaster. I believe less than a dozen people have been killed by the storm.

Capitalist Infidel on October 30, 2012 at 8:32 AM

Flying too close to the turbulence wake from another jet apparently led to engine failure on takeoff, and the Airbus jet crashed in the Rockaways, about three miles east of where the current Breezy Point fires are burning. Given how out-of-the way (for New York) the Rockaways are, the area has now had more than its share of major tragedies over the past decade.

jon1979 on October 30, 2012 at 8:58 AM

Looking at the video from NYC this morning, starting to wonder if the Mayans weren’t right after all …

TouchdownBuddha on October 30, 2012 at 8:47 AM

Prayers, sympathy to all affected and Red Cross donations for comfort, care and rebuilding …

Um, TouchdownBuddha, not to take advantage of the fear and mayhem but, I’m selling Mayan calendar refills if you’d like to buy one… Capitalism lives!

Fallon on October 30, 2012 at 8:58 AM

Big storms do wide spread damage…see Katrina and Andrew. More houses are lost in the West due to wild fires than what happened in Rockaway. Do we feel for these people, of course, we know we’re all saved from some disaster or another by the grace of GOD. Keep the prayers going for these folks and they’ll get through this storm. They’ve had similar storms in the past, weather is weather.

Kissmygrits on October 30, 2012 at 9:00 AM

I fear that this could work in the President’s favor. It’s possible that the first time in four years that the man has appeared presidential could be during the aftermath of this disaster. Acts of God/nature like this can invoke the emotions of folks.

I know it sounds coarse, but my secondary hope is that any undecided voter remembers the entirety of the last four years.

RedCrow on October 30, 2012 at 8:31 AM

what has he done to warrant that?

actually show up at the White House?

audiotom on October 30, 2012 at 9:11 AM

Why does Obama hate white people? Why didn’t he stop this? I think it was Joe Bidens hurricane machine. I’m pretty sure the government blew up the sea wall to flood the area.

bsinc1962 on October 30, 2012 at 8:19 AM

You’d think Biden would aim his hurricane machine at a red swing state instead of deep blue NYC. Of course, that would suppose Biden is competent, and we know otherwise.

Bitter Clinger on October 30, 2012 at 9:12 AM

You’d think Biden would aim his hurricane machine at a red swing state instead of deep blue NYC. Of course, that would suppose Biden is competent, and we know otherwise.

Bitter Clinger on October 30, 2012 at 9:12 AM

Hey, it’s Biden — of course he’s going to accidentally point the machine at his home state. I’m just surprised Rove and Cheney left the device near Joe’s VP house at the Naval Observatory where he could find it, and that Biden was smart enough to figure out the ‘on’ button.

jon1979 on October 30, 2012 at 9:18 AM

This is small, and doesn’t belong on this thread, or at this site.

massrighty on October 30, 2012 at 8:35 AM

These events are very unfortunate and prayers go out. But we don’t want this as an excuse to delay Obamas day of reckoning. He has been the bigger disaster.

Red Creek on October 30, 2012 at 9:21 AM

audiotom on October 30, 2012 at 9:11 AM

Well, this is an on-going event. It remains to be seen what he will do. While this storm should be diminishing now, you can bet that this will be issue number one from here to election day.

Again, it sounds crass, but this storm is really his only hope to appear to be presidential. All other issues that have (or had) the people’s attention are negatives–or at best neutral–for him, IMO.

RedCrow on October 30, 2012 at 9:22 AM

do wonder why the gas wasn’t shut off beforehand. Were these people were under an evacuation order? Did local authorities think the gas lines were fine and secure?

Maybe the storm and water surge were worse than they expected? Strange.

RedCrow on October 30, 2012 at 8:38 AM

These are all beachfront wood houses and most are pretty old so they would be tinder boxes. Also I read that some people had chosen to stay, so they had to be evacuated. Why don’t people just take the advice and if it turns out to be wrong, well so they were inconvenienced a bit.

Deanna on October 30, 2012 at 9:26 AM

Just woke up.

Have the Blacks started rioting yet?

Typicalwhitewoman on October 30, 2012 at 9:30 AM

how will the storm play out in the election

only one swing state – Virginia has been heavily affected by Sandy.

when people start complaining strongly about the lack of response, no provisions of food and gas, power outages – it won’t be pretty and even the news outlets anchors will be miffed about the situation they are “suffering”.

If the past is any indication Obama will be inadequate to provide any form of meaningful help and if he goes off campaigning, he is toast. All that is left is photo ops.

I live in New Orleans and Isaac was only a cat 1 hurricane that hung over the area too long and in the very sweltering heat of summer. We are all aware of what power outages and lack of provisions are like.

I feel for the people of the East Coast

With Isaac – Romney was on the ground the day after when it was finally safe to land. He didn’t go to downtown NOLA. He went to the remote towns that were completely underwater due to insufficient levee systems. He sincerely spent time with the locals who had lost everything.

Obama came in three days later, and backed up city traffic for a photo op in NOLA which experienced mostly wind damage – downed trees and power outages.

People down here took note

I expect more of the same this time from a man with character,
and a shadow of a leader in the White House

audiotom on October 30, 2012 at 9:30 AM

Wasn’t there a plane crash shortly after 9/11 that killed some 80 people? I think that would be more of a disaster. I believe less than a dozen people have been killed by the storm.

Capitalist Infidel on October 30, 2012 at 8:32 AM

Flying too close to the turbulence wake from another jet apparently led to engine failure on takeoff, and the Airbus jet crashed in the Rockaways, about three miles east of where the current Breezy Point fires are burning. Given how out-of-the way (for New York) the Rockaways are, the area has now had more than its share of major tragedies over the past decade.

jon1979 on October 30, 2012 at 8:58 AM

Just to keep the record straight, 265 people were killed.

It scared the pants off everyone because it surely seemed like terrorism.

The engines were fine; what happened was that the vertical stabilizer fell off because an aggressive pilot jockeyed the rudder too hard while following another jet.

Airbus ended up having to rewrite the software on the A300 so that pilots couldn’t make the tail fall off by pulling the yoke back and forth too hard.

cane_loader on October 30, 2012 at 9:32 AM

I will say Obama will appreciate the diversion from the Benghazi investigations in the post storm landscape

audiotom on October 30, 2012 at 9:32 AM

No, he won’t.

DeathtotheSwiss on October 30, 2012 at 9:34 AM

Why don’t people just take the advice and if it turns out to be wrong, well so they were inconvenienced a bit.

Deanna on October 30, 2012 at 9:26 AM

Yeah. I’m in MI, but I’ve been looking at the radar online over the last few days. Probably not sticking around for something that big.

Dunno, maybe some folks had to stay for their jobs. (Maybe mandatory evacuation orders aren’t so bad?)

It’s a double-edged sword because of the way the media always over-hypes weather systems. Nine out of ten turn out to be nothing much, so lots of folks ignore that awful tenth.

This terrible event spurs more questions than answers.

RedCrow on October 30, 2012 at 9:41 AM

I fear that this could work in the President’s favor. It’s possible that the first time in four years that the man has appeared presidential could be during the aftermath of this disaster. Acts of God/nature like this can invoke the emotions of folks.
On’t forget that a lot of peope voted already
I know it sounds coarse, but my secondary hope is that any undecided voter remembers the entirety of the last four years.

RedCrow on October 30, 2012 at 8:31 AM

I doubt it. People watch what’s going on with the storm and the aftermath, there’s a certain hunger for that sort of sensationalism and morbidity in most people in that sense, but nobody cares about this idiot’s photo-ops and public appearances post-storm…people are smarter than that, they know how easily he can use these type of situations and manipulate them in his favor….he could wish that he gets saved by the Sandy bell :), like he was saved in 2008 by the Lehman Brothers collapse and the ineptitude of the mclame campaign but it won’t again…besides, it’s NY and NJ and Washington DC, don t want to appear cynical or anything, but am afraid these areas of the country won’t get that much sympathy from the rest of the country, same like the East Coast folks do not get awully involved or sympathetic when the mid west get treated with the mother nature’s fury. As for the west coast, people here care only about the west coast :), it’s like the rest of the country doesn’t exist, unfortunately…None of the states that have been hit hard by Sandy are in play really, so while the New Yorkers might be impressed with how presidential he looks (what’s new), the rest of the contry won’t really care. Actually the cons around the country migh get motivate to vote even more vigorously, now that they feel there’s a vacuum (both infratuctur and power wise) on the E Coast….

jimver on October 30, 2012 at 9:41 AM

Typicalwhitewoman on October 30, 2012 at 9:30 AM

This comment is uncalled for.

RedCrow on October 30, 2012 at 9:43 AM

Infrastructure that is….

jimver on October 30, 2012 at 9:43 AM

Correction: there’s one state that has been hit by Sandy and that is in play, Virginia of course…

jimver on October 30, 2012 at 9:47 AM

Holy crap.
Did everyone get out okay? Was it already evacuated?

Count to 10 on October 30, 2012 at 7:35 AM

I do wonder why the gas wasn’t shut off beforehand. Were these people were under an evacuation order? Did local authorities think the gas lines were fine and secure?

RedCrow on October 30, 2012 at 8:38 AM

Yes, there was an evacuation order. Some people didn’t obey it, and rescue teams had to go in through knee-to-hip-deep water to try and rescue them, on top of trying to control and extinguish the fire. Also, one of the things you’re supposed to do if you evacuate is turn off the gas line into your house.

It’s very possible that 1) this could have been a lot worse because some people didn’t want to leave their homes, and 2) someone not following the precautions (shut down, evacuate) contibuted to this tragedy.

Prayers going out to all affected by this storm. (And, yes, it was more than just a big thunderstorm.)

GWB on October 30, 2012 at 9:48 AM

Typicalwhitewoman on October 30, 2012 at 9:30 AM

This comment is uncalled for.

RedCrow on October 30, 2012 at 9:43 AM

Why? That comment is actually very ‘called’ for and very true.

jimver on October 30, 2012 at 9:50 AM

jimver on October 30, 2012 at 9:41 AM

Yeah. I mostly agree with what you wrote, but I was talking mainly about “undecideds” across the country. The MSM will help POTUS by playing on a loop any thirty second clips where he appears to be presidential. And, IMO, folks who are still undecided aren’t so bright that they will easily see through that facade.

GWB on October 30, 2012 at 9:48 AM

Thanks for the info, GWB.

RedCrow on October 30, 2012 at 9:54 AM

A picture of the aftermath. It looks like a smoldering war zone.

http://twitpic.com/b8rx7v

Flora Duh on October 30, 2012 at 9:56 AM

Why? That comment is actually very ‘called’ for and very true.

jimver on October 30, 2012 at 9:50 AM

Imagine Barack having to call out the national guard on soul brothers. Not a good scenario for him personally.

Red Creek on October 30, 2012 at 10:00 AM

Holy Cow, how horrible!!! With all the rain and wind I didn’t think those poor folks would have to work fire into their disaster equation. Could Hot Air ask Allahpundit to give us a pop in so we know he’s okay?

Cindy Munford on October 30, 2012 at 10:11 AM

Why? That comment is actually very ‘called’ for and very true.

jimver on October 30, 2012 at 9:50 AM
Imagine Barack having to call out the national guard on soul brothers. Not a good scenario for him personally.

Red Creek on October 30, 2012 at 10:00 AM

Red Creek, I guess I was a little snippy this morning but truth hurts. It is what it is. It was a safe bet that the Asians weren’t rioting anywhere.

It must be carryover from the Benghazi thread, where utter sadness and anger surfaces and not much to do about it, than type a few words on an anonymous blog.

Thanks, jimver for the “help”.

Typicalwhitewoman on October 30, 2012 at 10:11 AM

Awful news. You don’t usually hear about large fires after hurricanes . I just remember hearing about or seeing a few fires after Katrina.

Ward Cleaver on October 30, 2012 at 10:14 AM

Breezy Point, look at it on the Google Maps, is a teeny penninsula into the ocean south of JFK. It is clearly an evacuation zone that people would not have been allowed to stay in.

Fleuries on October 30, 2012 at 10:14 AM

Thanks, jimver for the “help”.

Typicalwhitewoman on October 30, 2012 at 10:11 AM

It was I who disagreed with your comment. I think Red Creek is in agreement with both of you on your comment.

I merely said that it was “uncalled for” because, as far as I know, no rioting is taking place at the moment.

I’m not hurt by your comment. I just don’t think injecting a racially-based comment is appropriate, and I said so.

Carry on.

RedCrow on October 30, 2012 at 10:19 AM

i have a friend who lives in breezy point. visited a few years ago. quiet. houses crammed like sardines.

poor guys been through a lot lately. hope he’s ok.

renalin on October 30, 2012 at 10:52 AM

This fire may be a good thing. Many of the media headlines say flooded home burn down. It’s possible that many of the flooded houses owners may not have had flood insurance. Now that the homes have burned, the home owners may be able to file a claim on their standard homeowners policies.

Wallythedog on October 30, 2012 at 12:25 PM

This is small, and doesn’t belong on this thread, or at this site.

massrighty on October 30, 2012 at 8:35 AM
Neither does the thought police.

Norky on October 30, 2012 at 8:37 AM

…new POS? …don’t remember seeing any skid marks from this one before!…septic back up again?

KOOLAID2 on October 30, 2012 at 12:37 PM

It’s a double-edged sword because of the way the media always over-hypes weather systems. Nine out of ten turn out to be nothing much, so lots of folks ignore that awful tenth.

This terrible event spurs more questions than answers.

RedCrow on October 30, 2012 at 9:41 AM

Same thing on the Gulf Coast when we lived there. Hard to make the right call if you’re a reporter, because someone is always going to complain if you are wrong.
However, better to have an unneeded evacuation than miss a needed one.

When you are playing with lives, the standing of your “journalistic reputation” is trivial. Accuracy is more important than ratings.

I could extrapolate the point to a broader application, but don’t want to be accuse of politicizing a disaster.

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Cindy Munford on October 30, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Maybe the storm and water surge were worse than they expected? Strange.

RedCrow on October 30, 2012 at 8:38 AM

The storm surge was almost 2 ft worse than they had anticipated.

As for that particular neighborhood, it was certainly under orders to evacuate the day before this storm hit.

In general, in many places NYC is only a few feet above sea level, and many of our subway tunnels are over 100 years old. It’s just not built for this, and so while this storm wasn’t the strongest the country has seen, it hit a place wholly unprepared (through no fault of its own).

ernesto on October 30, 2012 at 2:39 PM

If there’s any good news in this story it’s that most of those homes would be vacant as they are small beach cottages, second homes used during the summer.

It’s a unique beach community, at one time all Irish Catholic and 60 years ago no Jooos were allowed. In fact a beach club, The Silver Gull, was built outside the gates in the early 1960′s and was marketed to Jewish folks. I used to surf at Breezy in the 1960s and I am pretty sure it’s gone through some good changes.

PC14 on October 30, 2012 at 2:59 PM

In general, in many places NYC is only a few feet above sea level, and many of our subway tunnels are over 100 years old. It’s just not built for this, and so while this storm wasn’t the strongest the country has seen, it hit a place wholly unprepared (through no fault of its own).

ernesto on October 30, 2012 at 2:39 PM

You mean, other than the fault of choosing to build an enormous, densely packed city only a few feet above sea level, of course.

IamDA on October 30, 2012 at 9:39 PM