Rasmussen: Oddly, “finding out what’s in it” hasn’t done much for the merits of ObamaCare

posted at 2:11 pm on October 30, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

“We have to pass it to find out what’s in it,” they said — and more than two years after the fact, it seems that as people have found out more and more about what’s in it, the “thanks, but no thanks” consensus has only grown larger. According to Rasmussen,

Mitt Romney says he will repeal President Obama’s national health care law if he is elected, and most voters continue to believe that’s a good idea.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 54% of Likely U.S. Voters favor repeal of the health care law, while just 39% are opposed. This includes 43% who Strongly Favor repeal, and 30% who are Strongly Opposed to it.

As the Weekly Standard points out, in the first few polls following the March 2010 zero-bipartisanship passage of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act,

Rasmussen showed that likely voters then favored repeal by margins of 13 points (55 to 42 percent), 12 points (54 to 42 percent), and 12 points (54 to 42 percent). …

The repeal of Obamacare is now supported by men (by 24 points), women (by 7 points), voters between the ages of 40 and 64 (by 22 points), seniors (by 32 points — and better than 2-to-1), Republicans (by 75 points — and better than 7-to-1), independents (by 9 points)…

I.e., there are now several percentage points fewer people directly opposed to the repeal of ObamaCare; seniors, who frequent the health care system the most as a group, are widely in favor of repeal; and independents are leaning towards direct repeal as well.

In a nutshell, it seems that the steady stream of revelations concerning ObamaCare’s added bureaucracy, added costs, added taxes, not to mention a whole host of adverse neighborhood effects, haven’t done anything to win voters over to the health care overhaul’s side the way the Democrats promised us it inevitably would. If Romney & Friends are sure to keep hammering away ObamaCare on the stump over the next week, I think the more likely it is we’ll actually get this thing repealed.


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Today Show: “Needless to say, if you don’t already have flood insurance, you won’t be covered.”

Why not? That’s just a preexisting condition.

Resist We Much on October 30, 2012 at 2:13 PM

We also need to reelect Barky to find out what his plans are.

I’m thinking that rolling those dice is a losing proposition.

Bishop on October 30, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Relatively free people always deserve their gov’t.

Schadenfreude on October 30, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Thank Obama for this, America.

Everything is on topic this week.

Schadenfreude on October 30, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Gee, you think? The more people find out, the more they’ll hate it.

Doughboy on October 30, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Demon Obama looks like the demons are catching up with him this time.

One more week! and then tough times until Jan. 20th.

FEMA is dishing out dough, buying votes and looting/mooching, while they can, into the billions.

RWM, congratulations on starving the looters.

Schadenfreude on October 30, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Rasmussen: Oddly, “finding out what’s in him” hasn’t done much for the merits of Obama

FIFY

Jabberwock on October 30, 2012 at 2:16 PM

“Since the democrat party voted NO! on God, there can therefore be NO ACTS OF GOD, so therefore FLOOD INSURANCE IS A RIGHT!!!!”
~Nanzi

Strike Hornet on October 30, 2012 at 2:18 PM

I have always thought “We have to pass it to find out what’s in it,” to be analogous with “Let’s piss on the car battery and see what happens.”.

Both are pretty much going to cause great pain in the long run.

pilamaye on October 30, 2012 at 2:19 PM

Schadenfreude on October 30, 2012 at 2:14 PM

A li’l electoral bribe from ChiCom will go a long way towards protecting and advancing Chinese interests in any country, why should Australia and the US be exclusions? We all, except Mitt who obviously perceives it, are blind fools for ignoring this angle. They are the enemy, much worse one than the Russians had ever been. At least we could hope to out-breed those!

Archivarix on October 30, 2012 at 2:19 PM

The wifey has worked in healthcare coding and records for 35 years.She is on the firing line daily and says we are heading for one huge disaster.

docflash on October 30, 2012 at 2:19 PM

IMO, WE have NO idea what is in bhocare and won’t know for years? The tentacles from this goes into every aspect of our lives that has NOTHING to do with healthcare? If people knew what is in bhocare and how much it acutally going to cost them, NO one would want it?

BTW, WE did not want bhocare and bho/d’s in the house and senate, rammed it down our throat!
L

letget on October 30, 2012 at 2:20 PM

Even if you don’t know what’s in it, the name “Obama” stinks of “loser”.

No one with a brain has any confidence in anything attached to “Obama”.

“Obama” is good for “Obama” and that’s the extent of it. Everyone else gets screwed when this guy is attached to anything.

NoDonkey on October 30, 2012 at 2:20 PM

Archivarix on October 30, 2012 at 2:19 PM

If they ever are allowed to rule the world, a more vicious boss there never was.

Schadenfreude on October 30, 2012 at 2:21 PM

You see that 54% who are strongly opposed??? There’s your number folks. Look for that next Tuesday.

Oink on October 30, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Since the IRS will be verifying coverages and collecting fines for non-coverage…

Akzed on October 30, 2012 at 2:27 PM

We wouldn’t have Obamacare but for Democrats and voter fraud. Don’t forget the Minnesota Senate race. We don’t even have to get to the ballots “found” in the trunk of some precinct boss’ car.

It is ILLEGAL for convicted felons to vote in Minnesota. In 2008, 1,099 convicted felons voted in the Minnesota Senate race. Ultimately, Franken beat Coleman by 312 votes.

Resist We Much on October 30, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Well, i’ll say this much, they have a tremendous grasp of the obvious! What on earth, would make any rational person believe that something that has to be hidden from you to be approved, would be anything positive in the light of day? The more light you shine on this roach motel of a Marxist Monstrosity, the more you want to burn it for all eternity. The obvious failure, to the point of deadly failure, of the varying versions of this beast, throughout the world, should be enough to send everybody running, but only a MAJORITY hate this Marxist Intrusion into all of our lives! Suicide is the only descriptor! But then, when do we learn from others peoples mistakes? Even if this particular mistake has cost thousands of lives in Europe alone!
Addendum on the fight against the Obama Enemy media: http://paratisiusa.blogspot.com/2012/09/an-open-letter-to-those-who-should-know.html?spref=tw

God Bless America!

paratisi on October 30, 2012 at 2:30 PM

“Deem and Pass” was really Demon Pass, wasn’t it? My insurance premium is up 58% since ObamaCare passed. I can keep my existing insurance if I can afford to keep my insurance.

Just a little reminder, Rahmnesia: Rahm Emanuel argued against pushing for ObamaCare and left the president’s service to become the “Boss” of Chicago after it was passed.

Fallon on October 30, 2012 at 2:34 PM

Please Lord let the Rs gain control of the Senate. I would love to see Pres Romney with the 2700 pg bill on his desk holding a blow torch to it.

hillsoftx on October 30, 2012 at 2:35 PM

If Romney & Friends are sure to keep hammering away ObamaCare on the stump over the next week, I think the more likely it is we’ll actually get this thing repealed.

Erika, do you know something about this election’s Senate contests that I missed? Do you think we (the GOP) take the Senate, or are you thinking that pressure can be applied to some D’s to vote for repeal?

(Or, are you trying to get my hopes up? :) )

RedCrow on October 30, 2012 at 2:36 PM

Please Lord let the Rs gain control of the Senate. I would love to see Pres Romney with the 2700 pg bill on his desk holding a blow torch to it.

hillsoftx on October 30, 2012 at 2:35 PM

I would rather visualize Paul Ryan holding Nancy Pelosi over his knee, stuffing 2700 pages of the law, page by page, into her gaping fly trap of a mouth.

Archivarix on October 30, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Today Show: “Needless to say, if you don’t already have flood insurance, you won’t be covered.”

Why not? That’s just a preexisting condition.

Resist We Much on October 30, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Great point. Aren’t those greedy household/business insurance companies just as big and rich as the health insurance companies? Why can’t they absorb these losses from those with pre-existing conditions just as health insurance companies are expected to? It would be a drop in the bucket out of their filthy profits.

slickwillie2001 on October 30, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Maybe just maybe a good run on Congressional seats that still falls short of senate control would scare enough demorat survivors to jump ship on BarkyCare. Never underestimate a politician who wants to keep their publicly-funded trough.

Bishop on October 30, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Archivarix on October 30, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Surely, we can find bi-partisan support for that.

RedCrow on October 30, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Never underestimate a politician who wants to keep their publicly-funded trough.

Bishop on October 30, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Especially if it’s before they’ve made their millions on insider trading and sweet land/bank deals!

RedCrow on October 30, 2012 at 2:42 PM

…you think Nancy has read it yet?

KOOLAID2 on October 30, 2012 at 2:44 PM

Open enrollment for health insurance started this week at work. EVERYONE is up on arms over the fact that our insurance costs are up -and $150 a month for a family of 4. At least on person I know, quit because her monthly health care premiums would be more than her months take home pay! Our manager has been less than shy about giving credit where rightly due…..Obamacare!

LL

Lady Logician on October 30, 2012 at 2:44 PM

The repeal of Obamacare is opposed by voters under the age of 40 (by 4 points),

This confuses me more than I can say…

Lets say you’re 20 years old, good health, reasonable situation… here are your choices today.
1) Cheap “diaster” health care, that you likely won’t need and won’t cost ytou much.
2) Expensive health care for a lot of things you won’t need for 20-30 years minimum and won’t use.

Under Obamacare, you only have the 2nd option, you’re forced to pay for it, and you have no cheaper option limited to the healthcare you’ll actually use… and this is set up in order to force you to pay more so the insurance cost for seniors who WILL use more is covered.

Why are younger people willingly sacrificing themselves to suffer and pay for the rest of the system? Do they not get it, or do they not want their own money for their own purposes?

gekkobear on October 30, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Especially if it’s before they’ve made their millions on insider trading and sweet land/bank deals!

RedCrow on October 30, 2012 at 2:42 PM

“No comment.”

-Harry Reid

Bishop on October 30, 2012 at 2:50 PM

…you think Nancy has read it yet?

KOOLAID2 on October 30, 2012 at 2:44 PM

Nancy Pelosi says she read Obamacare bill

That doesn’t mean she really read it or that she understands anything that she read. The article is pretty funny.

Fallon on October 30, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Why are younger people willingly sacrificing themselves to suffer and pay for the rest of the system? Do they not get it, or do they not want their own money for their own purposes?

gekkobear on October 30, 2012 at 2:49 PM

You’re forgetting two things:
1–Healthcare is a “human right.”
2–It’s cool to provide healthcare to all.

RedCrow on October 30, 2012 at 2:55 PM

If they are successful in repealing this monstrosity, do I and millions others get our premium increases back for this year?

Bwhaaaaaaaa!!!!

My premiums doubled this year and are set to go up substantially in 2013 as well.

Mitt, I beg you to sign the EO on day 1.

D-fusit on October 30, 2012 at 2:56 PM

gekkobear on October 30, 2012 at 2:49 PM

RedCrow on October 30, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Forgot one:
3–“Who’s paying?!?”

RedCrow on October 30, 2012 at 2:56 PM

…you think Nancy has read it yet?

KOOLAID2 on October 30, 2012 at 2:44 PM
Nancy Pelosi says she read Obamacare bill
That doesn’t mean she really read it or that she understands anything that she read. The article is pretty funny.

Fallon on October 30, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Does that mean she Read it Read it, sorta like Whoopie’s rape rape.

D-fusit on October 30, 2012 at 2:58 PM

If they are successful in repealing this monstrosity, do I and millions others get our premium increases back for this year?

D-fusit on October 30, 2012 at 2:56 PM

I think you’re supposed to consider them reparations for your lavish lifestyle, you greedy 1%-er.

RedCrow on October 30, 2012 at 2:58 PM

While I will never forgive John Roberts unless and until Jesus makes me do it, repeal has the advantage of leaving a permanent mark on the Dems. If we win the Senate and get this repealed, the unavoidable conclusion of the 2010 mid-terms, Scott Brown’s election, and the (hopefully) 2012 election will serve to stand as an eternal reminder that it’s political suicide to push through socialized medicine in this nation, even if the Dems ever get a large enough majority to try it again.

TexasDan on October 30, 2012 at 3:07 PM

I think you’re supposed to consider them reparations for your lavish lifestyle, you greedy 1%-er.

RedCrow on October 30, 2012 at 2:58 PM

I forgot about that, that must be because I’m a RACIST!!!!!!!

D-fusit on October 30, 2012 at 3:08 PM

It turns out that the more you had to complain about your health insurance before Obama Care, the more you will have to complain about the cost of Obama Care’s new and improved premiums and coverage mandates, when it comes on in your state.

Well, that is unless, like people currently buying low cost insurance in MA: you won’t have to pay for your insurance anymore, you can qualify for the new lower Medicaid qualification.

Fleuries on October 30, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Fleuries on October 30, 2012 at 3:08 PM

I talk to a few (non-insane) democrats who are thankful that, now, if something happens to them they’ll be covered.

I patiently wait for them to stop rambling, then ask them why so many Canadians make “pilgrimages” to the US for routine operations (sometimes simply routine tests) in our hospitals.

I also ask them to google “nhs nightmare” for further info.

(How people don’t see shortages and rationing in the future is beyond my comprehension.)

RedCrow on October 30, 2012 at 3:18 PM

The time period between Nov. 7th and Romney’s swearing in ceremony will be very dangerous times for our republic.

a capella on October 30, 2012 at 3:27 PM

…you think Nancy has read it yet?

KOOLAID2 on October 30, 2012 at 2:44 PM

Nancy Pelosi says she read Obamacare bill

Yeah, she read it like Woody Allen speed read War and Peace.
And with the same level of comprehension.

Barnestormer on October 30, 2012 at 3:32 PM

slickwillie2001 on October 30, 2012 at 2:38 PM

The federal government sells most of the flood insurance purchased in the U.S. through a program known as the NFIP. Most private homeowners and auto insurance policies sold in the U.S. specifically exclude damage caused by flooding.

AZCoyote on October 30, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Like everyone I know we’ve found out that it has jacked up 2013 premiums by an even higher percentage than predicted. Keeping kids on until they are 26, paying Sandra Fluke’s contraception bills, and providing drive through abortions for free was never going to be cheap.

The insurers did read it to find out what was in it. And they priced it in. When I asked our insurer if the PPACA was driving up costs directly he said well yes, obviously. (off the record)

CorporatePiggy on October 30, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Please Lord let the Rs gain control of the Senate. I would love to see Pres Romney with the 2700 pg bill on his desk holding a blow torch to it.

hillsoftx on October 30, 2012 at 2:35 PM

I would rather visualize Paul Ryan holding Nancy Pelosi over his knee, stuffing 2700 pages of the law, page by page, into her gaping fly trap of a mouth.

Archivarix on October 30, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Yeah, Ba-bee!

avagreen on October 30, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Today Show: “Needless to say, if you don’t already have flood insurance, you won’t be covered.”

Why not? That’s just a preexisting condition.

Resist We Much on October 30, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Kudos. And right out of the gate, too.

tom on October 30, 2012 at 4:01 PM

I seriously doubt that Nancy Pelosi, the richest member of Congress, has either time nor inclination to actually READ a two-thousand-seven-hundred page bill.
If she claims to have actually READ it to a point of understanding ANY of it, might someone in the media ask her a few simple questions about ‘what’s in the bill’? Sure, about the time I witness winged pigs buzz my yard.

Missilengr on October 30, 2012 at 4:52 PM

Why are younger people willingly sacrificing themselves to suffer and pay for the rest of the system? Do they not get it, or do they not want their own money for their own purposes?

gekkobear on October 30, 2012 at 2:49 PM

They have no idea that they’ll be forced to buy the cadillac plan. They believe Dear Leader that they can keep their current plan. If they knew they would be locked into a very expensive comprehensive plan, more would be against it. Only the moochers who expect to be able to pursue their art “career” safely under government provided healthcare would be for it.

Too many young people loved Nanzi saying that the bill would help artists and musicians pursue their careers without threat of not having healthcare. They don’t realize if you love doing something but can’t make money at it, it’s called a hobby, get a job.

PastorJon on October 30, 2012 at 5:02 PM

Someday, in another land, somebody will win a case in the supreme court that states that Congress cannot pass any law that they themselves are are exempted from.
If the members of congress were forced to use ObamaCare, it would have received exactly the same amount of votes that Obama’s last two budgets received…none, zero, nada…

right2bright on October 30, 2012 at 5:03 PM

Wait till 2014 comrades. That is when the real pain begins.

May the architects, purveyors, and supporters of this hellish bill burn forever and forever in hell.

tom daschle concerned on October 30, 2012 at 5:20 PM

In an interview with the editorial board of the Des Moines Register, Obama was asked if he regretted his push to enact health-care overhaul legislation when he had huge Democratic majorities in Congress instead of emphasizing measures to fix the economy. “Absolutely not,” responded the president.

That must have come as a slap in the face to the 23 million Americans out of work, trapped in part-time jobs or given up looking for work; to the 50 percent of college grads who can’t find jobs or labor at doing something below their hard-earned college credentials, and to the 5.5 million unemployed women and the 27.5 million women in poverty, increases of, respectively, 500,000 and 3.6 million over the levels when Obama took office.

Schadenfreude on October 30, 2012 at 9:25 PM