Labor Dep’t: On second thought, looks like we might have that jobs report ready on Friday after all
posted at 8:54 pm on October 30, 2012 by Allahpundit
Sandy did hit D.C. but only with a glancing blow, so the prospect of BLS statisticians being stranded at home in the suburbs has faded along with the storm. Even if they were getting hammered, though, if you worked for BLS, wouldn’t you move heaven and earth to make sure this report came out according to its regular schedule? If they delayed what turned out to be a bad report and Obama won the election in the interim, they’d have half the country suspicious of their motives unto eternity. As would also be the case, needless to say, if the incumbent were a Republican and staring down the barrel of a jobless rate stuck near eight percent.
A Labor Department official tells CBS News correspondent Bob Fuss there should be no delay in the release of the monthly employment report. It’s expected to be released this Friday at 8:30 a.m. ET…
There had been some speculation the report would be delayed as a result of Superstorm Sandy. Preparation for the jobs report typically ramps up in the week of the release. The federal government was closed Monday and Tuesday due to the storm.
On Monday the Labor Department had issued a statement saying, “It is our intention that Friday will be business as usual regarding the October Employment Situation report.”
ABC and Bloomberg were hearing the same thing earlier this afternoon, with former Obama advisor Austan Goolsbee telling the latter that he expected BLS would crunch the numbers at their satellite offices outside D.C. if need be rather than delay the report. Bloomberg makes a fair point in arguing separately that it’s silly for people to put so much stock in a measurement that tells us so little about what’s really going on in the economy (a point HA readers understand only too well), but there are lots of silly things that affect people’s votes and most of them are far sillier than this. Rest assured, The One was careful to affect his most serious “serious face” while being briefed on Sandy for the benefit of the White House photographer snapping pictures in the Situation Room. Looking “presidential” in a crisis can tip votes, and that’s how you look presidential. Little late in the game now to be grumbling about the merits of the BLS numbers.
Mickey Kaus makes a fair point too. If this was all a matter of the White House and the BLS playing with the numbers to help O out, there’s obviously something more potent they could (but won’t) do than simply shelving the final jobs report:
I’m assuming the Bureau of Labor Statistics will release the October employment statistics on schedule. The paranoia that would accompany a delay (this close to the election) would be too destructive, even if the delay was justifiable. But if the Obama administration were really playing politics with the numbers in the way the paranoids fear, do you think it would merely delay the release of the numbers? Not cunning enough!
The obvious Machiavellian four-step would be 1) delay the release of the numbers 2) wait for the Romney camp to get caught up in the paranoia and publicly demand that the administration release the numbers 3) at the moment of maximum dramatic tension, release the numbers! 4) Have the numbers be unexpectedly good. … There is precedent for this maneuver. …
Exit question: How far would the current rate of 7.8 percent have to move on Friday to really impact the election? My sense of low-information voters is that they’re almost entirely tuned out to the actual numbers, and may even be tuned out to good/bad trends in the numbers unless the trend is sharp enough to lend an air of celebration or dread, as the case may be, to news stories about it. That’s what they’re reacting to I think — the tone of the coverage as a portent of how the economy more broadly is doing, not the actual facts being reported about the data. My question is, what sort of movement in Friday’s would cause the media to celebrate/despair? A one-tenth percent drop or increase? Two-tenths? And yes, it’s perfectly fine to wonder if the bar for grim reports has risen now that we’re on the eve of an election.
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If this administration would fabricate a story about Benghazi to avoid scandal before an election(four Americans killed)…do you think they would have a problem hiding the IRS scandal?
d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 1:58 PM
The goal was to cripple the fund raising of these groups for the 2012 election — and they succeeded.
TarheelBen on May 17, 2013 at 1:59 PM
Four: they saw what happens to those who oppose Dear Liar and didn’t want to be railroaded themselves.
rbj on May 17, 2013 at 2:00 PM
The ’12 election was a con, in more ways than one. We’ve been had, the federal government is totally corrupt now, top to bottom. The IRS is corrupt, the executive branch is corrupt, the legislative branch is corrupt, the SCOTUS is corrupt and, unfortunately, both parties are corrupt.
FloatingRock on May 17, 2013 at 2:02 PM
The Obama administration targeted the political opposition through the IRS to help get Obama re-elected.
Asking why they didn’t reveal this until after the election, when it was about to be revealed anyway, is a fundamentally silly question.
18-1 on May 17, 2013 at 2:02 PM
I would have thought that Benghazi would have been a nail in the coffin – but that wasn’t the case.
I suppose that since more Americans on both sides of the political spectrum despise the IRS, perhaps it would have riled more voters – but I think the press would have assisted with damage control.
Hill60 on May 17, 2013 at 2:02 PM
And the State Department. And the Justice Department. And who knows who else.
scalleywag on May 17, 2013 at 2:02 PM
Obama, Obama, Obama, Sugah-Daddy!
Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 2:04 PM
ummmm…give me a minute.
squint on May 17, 2013 at 2:04 PM
Well duh it’s blatently obvious isn’t it?
If this had come out prior to the re-election of Teh One, his chances were shot…
Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 2:04 PM
“Is this still America?” is the question of the times.
Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 2:04 PM
Wooohooo – I gotta buy me a Lotto ticket! I could answer Scrumpy – before he even posted!
No, I won’t share.
Yes, Scrumpy… HA is still a little “hinky” today.
Hill60 on May 17, 2013 at 2:04 PM
“Targeted” release date.
65droptop on May 17, 2013 at 2:04 PM
OT is HA still acting all hinky?
Afternoon all :-)
Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 2:05 PM
Spread this around, by the millions, and act.
Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 2:05 PM
Barry was using Putin and Chavez tactics in the election.
Silence the opposition.
albill on May 17, 2013 at 2:06 PM
They kept asking where the TPM was…..I’d say being intimidated, answering IRS questions, trying to keep their people from not being targeted, hiring tax attys, etc.
______
Seems like it got better Scrumpy! What a mess this morning though.
CoffeeLover on May 17, 2013 at 2:06 PM
Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 2:04 PM
Doesn’t much look like it is…
Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 2:06 PM
I have a bigger question – why did the TEA party go quiet after 2010? Suppose it had something to do with being targeted?
Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 2:06 PM
Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 2:05 PM
Done and will be done!
HA tells me I am posting too quickly?
Sheesh techies fix this can ya?
Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 2:07 PM
This is a fundamentally changed America…
d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 2:07 PM
That’s a rhetorical question, right?
The Rogue Tomato on May 17, 2013 at 2:07 PM
Because they didn’t want to distract from the upcoming Christmas shopping season, of course!
CurtZHP on May 17, 2013 at 2:09 PM
I’m not surprised these scandals happened (welcome to Chicago, @$*()&!). What I’m genuinely surprised about is our status-quo/mainstream resident (D)s being obviously and openly comfortable with them.
With that in mind, I now believe many on the right are worried that things will go hot, but I wouldn’t doubt if many on the left are actively hoping for it.
rogerb on May 17, 2013 at 2:09 PM
Hill60 on May 17, 2013 at 2:04 PM
Ahem!! I am a gggggggguuuuuuuurrrrllllllll!!! 11!1T11!!
Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 2:09 PM
Mike Kelly blisters Steve Miller:
http://youtu.be/ZYsVnJbrVbw
franksalterego on May 17, 2013 at 2:09 PM
From Constitutional Republic to Banana Republic, thanks to the media and the communists posing as Americans.
The Rogue Tomato on May 17, 2013 at 2:10 PM
May 2017:
“We decided to hold off on reporting that HHS is using mobile killing trucks to get rid of the useless surplus populace until after the 2016 election was over. We’re very sorry about that, we will do better next time.”
Bishop on May 17, 2013 at 2:10 PM
because IRS didn’t want to politicize the issue,
unlike the baggers and rethugliKKKans ?
burrata on May 17, 2013 at 2:11 PM
This is what a “fundamentally transformed” America looks like…
Pest on May 17, 2013 at 2:11 PM
Yes. They crippled the Tea Party organizations’ ability to organize and expand.
The Rogue Tomato on May 17, 2013 at 2:11 PM
Well I’m sure they wanted to keep a lid on it permanently if that was possible. But short of that, of course they wanted to delay anyone finding out til after November. I’ve always been skeptical that even if Benghazi had gotten out of hand as a scandal, that it would’ve cost Obama reelection. I may have made the race tighter and that 3rd debate on foreign policy would’ve been far more consequential, but in the end it was domestic issues that decided the election.
This on the other hand would’ve easily cost Obama another term had it come out last fall. It would’ve infuriated conservatives and Tea Partiers enough to rally them behind Mitt Romney(remember, it was OUR lack of turnout that secured victory for Obama) and it would’ve done serious damage to Obama’s credibility with the electorate. And recall that that was the other factor in Romney losing. More voters trusted Obama than him. The IRS scandal would’ve mitigated Romney’s two biggest deficiencies and likely put him over the top.
Doughboy on May 17, 2013 at 2:11 PM
Media, you god damned fools, suffocate from eating Obama’s shit for so long. YOU ruined the land. May he destoy you and yours.
Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 2:12 PM
Dude, it’s the pure definition of targeting. Funny how the Obama administration doesn’t want to profile Arab men but they have no problem profiling patriots. This has always been the case with Obama and his gang of thugs.
We have met the enemy and they are supporters of the Constitution.
fogw on May 17, 2013 at 2:13 PM
I always assumed it was the p-sspoor performance of the House GOP leadership and the primary victory of Mitt Romney that tempered the enthusiasm of the Tea Party(and those are factors that shouldn’t be downplayed), but in light of the surprisingly disappointing turnout of conservative voters last November, I can’t shake this nagging feeling that many people on our side of the political spectrum had their voices suppressed intentionally by the federal government.
Doughboy on May 17, 2013 at 2:14 PM
It’s bigger than just the IRS. They coordinated with other agencies to attack individual American tax payers…
“Is this still America?”…A fundamentally change America. He told what he was going to do…and he did it.
d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 2:14 PM
Seriously, do you need another reason to scrap the current tax code and start over?
Chris of Rights on May 17, 2013 at 2:14 PM
Priority One was to steal the presidential election of 2012. Nothing else mattered.
Once that was accomplished, every month more that they can keep it covered up is gravy.
slickwillie2001 on May 17, 2013 at 2:15 PM
Heh, CoffeeLover is commenting to my post, before my post shows :)
Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 2:16 PM
I’m not sure I understand why they’d do something like this in the first place. Did they gain anything by it?
scalleywag on May 17, 2013 at 2:16 PM
I know the answer. We all do.
Follow-up question…
Why are the IRS scandal and the AP scandal coming out at the same time, right before the summer, and right when the Benghazi scandal started getting traction?
Is someone trying to give the electorate scandal fatigue right before the start of summer, a time when people typically pay even less attention to politics and the goings on in DC than they usually do?
farsighted on May 17, 2013 at 2:17 PM
Is there a union involved in this..?
d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 2:17 PM
Wooohooo – I gotta buy me a Lotto ticket! I could answer Scrumpy – before he even posted!
No, I won’t share.
Yes, Scrumpy… HA is still a little “hinky” today.
Hill60 on May 17, 2013 at 2:04 PM
This is crazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
Oh Help!!
Where am I what time am I????
Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 2:17 PM
Speaking of which, where are those posters of libral logic ?
I need them to share some of their wisdom to help me clarify things after this crazy week.
Jabberwock on May 17, 2013 at 2:18 PM
“Americans’ Attention to IRS, Benghazi Stories Below Average”, Gallup Poll is near Criminal. The Administration needs to have the Public divided on these issues and and not connect the dots to see that they are all part of “Win in November at any Cost” strategy. It is truly the “Party System” that should be on trial here. The system was enforce long before Obama came on the seen. Will the Gallup Poll question this? Not on you Bread and Butter.
jpcpt03 on May 17, 2013 at 2:18 PM
So this is what voter suppression looks likes. :-(
Rich on May 17, 2013 at 2:18 PM
The time on the HA site is six minutes ahead of my time.
farsighted on May 17, 2013 at 2:18 PM
Oh please.
If the story had come out during the election, the lapdog media would’ve framed the story as: “Tea party groups are so corrupt, they need to be audited more than any other group.”
PackerBronco on May 17, 2013 at 2:19 PM
Here is what happytobehere will post in about five minutes.
farsighted on May 17, 2013 at 2:20 PM
The State Run Media: Why would no one come to us and tell us about all of this? Could they be concerned about the media telling the government who was ratting on them?
d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 2:20 PM
Yeah, those coffins looked so concocted, maybe that’s why Hussein danced over them and used them for campaigning , right dolts ?
burrata on May 17, 2013 at 2:20 PM
President “Captain Renault” Obumbler…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME
roflmmfao
donabernathy on May 17, 2013 at 2:20 PM
Timing is out of whack!!
I don’t know where I have been or where I will go!!!!
Was I here before or after?
Lmao…
* swoosh *
Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 2:21 PM
So Obama’s big get out the vote effort didn’t beat Romney’s. it wasn’t a triumph of smarts and technology. It was big government kneecapping the opposition and placing horse heads on their beds.
MechanicalBill on May 17, 2013 at 2:21 PM
Really just one thing left to do then, eh?
Midas on May 17, 2013 at 2:22 PM
Loudly, clearly, on every occasion: Huge and flagrant abuse of power to attack Syria to bump the 3 investigations from the headlines.
It has to be said in advance. And the fox channel doesn’t count.
kunegetikos on May 17, 2013 at 2:22 PM
This never gets old. It should be on a HotAir T-Shirt.
Media Outrage Meter
Fast & Furious….meh
Billions Wasted on “Green Projects” ….meh
Benghazi……meh. Republicas fault.
IRS targeting those on Obama’s Hit List…uhhhhhh honest mistake.
DOJ tapping JournOlists phone records..OMG.OMG.OMG..eleventy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HumpBot Salvation on May 17, 2013 at 2:23 PM
The HotAir bloggers have to pretend there’s a question so they can keep us talking and outraging. I fall for it every time.
Fenris on May 17, 2013 at 2:24 PM
Did Obama win reelection because of the IRS? Not the coverup, I mean the actual targeting that shut down tea party efforts.
Even with my huge cynicism of the horrendous US electorate this is pretty awful. Too bad no one’s going to do anything about it.
Welcome to continuous Dem rule.
happytobehere on May 17, 2013 at 2:24 PM
Makes me seriously wonder what they had on Roberts.
Boudica on May 17, 2013 at 2:25 PM
Hey AP, how do you know no whistleblower came forward last year?
It wouldn’t surprise any of us here if certain members of the media ignored the whistleblowers last year, particularly after the way the media handled Benghazi.
Captain Kirock on May 17, 2013 at 2:25 PM
There is a cancer on HA…and it is the time stamp. LOL.
d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 2:25 PM
Quoting myself, from last weekend:
Whaddya know? It makes even more sense now.
Chris of Rights on May 17, 2013 at 2:25 PM
When it was their turn to yap, every Democrat on the committee played Six Degrees of Separation with the IRS chain of command until they could blame it on Bush.
Asshats.
fogw on May 17, 2013 at 2:26 PM
i think that barry is outlining the future to the D party. Bill did some stuff…but barry is saying, here’s the real way to go.
the orchestration is very good…time the release early in the second term…having intimidated and suppressed the Other’s vote….and made it risky for whistle blowers inside the government (the few that are not on your side)
so in 3 years, no one will remember…and it will be a new person (hillary time) to charge forward…and yes, we fixed all those pesky administrative problems…and oh, btw, did i mention that i’m giving you some new freebies…you’ll like these
r keller on May 17, 2013 at 2:26 PM
At least minutes ago. :)
Chris of Rights on May 17, 2013 at 2:26 PM
The Internal Revenue Service denied the existence of any documents related to its policy of targeting Tea Party organizations in response to a 2010 Freedom of Information Act request, even though such documents were later discovered by the IRS inspector general.
Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 2:26 PM
Because they were too busy illegally releasing Mitt Romney’s tax returns to Austan Goolsbee.
monalisa on May 17, 2013 at 2:27 PM
A special prosecutor needs to be appointed to file a RICO action against the federal government.
BuckeyeSam on May 17, 2013 at 2:28 PM
This country is chocked full of mindless, TMZ watching, mouth-breathing, government teet-slurping, “We’re all Socialist NAO”, unemployed drones.
The majority of people don’t even know ObamaCare is law of the land, let alone what happened with Benghazi or the IRS.
We’re past the tipping point, folks. The Dims and Progressive Repubes have succeeded in rigging the game so that only THEY can possibly win.
Was nice knowing you, America. Last one here shut off the government-mandated, mercury-laced “high-efficiency” squiggly light bulb.
Meople on May 17, 2013 at 2:29 PM
WOW !
Most posters are only having an issue with today’s time stamp.
You’ve managed to get the date involved as well !
Ha !
Jabberwock on May 17, 2013 at 2:29 PM
I wouldn’t be surprised if we also find out somewhere down the road that there was major voter fraud. Not just the isolated incidents with people voting 6 times, but on a massive scale. I don’t put anything past this regime at this point.
Doughboy on May 17, 2013 at 2:29 PM
Stuff like this proves we Conservatives were right all along. And all the excuses the Low Information Providers make for their precious Obama only add to that.
Liam on May 17, 2013 at 2:29 PM
Patrick Henry GOPenschmirtz: “I have not yet begun to complain!”
Midas on May 17, 2013 at 2:30 PM
it actually appeared better….but it’s not LOL You’d have thought the IT people would have been on this hours ago huh!
CoffeeLover on May 17, 2013 at 2:30 PM
The American State Run Media looked the other way while this rogue government intimidated and threatened American citizens…this is the biggest threat to our country. What will Americans do..? How to we fight these powerful forces that have teamed up to drive America toward social justice(socialism)?
d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 2:31 PM
Bingo! Door number 3 gets the prize! And if Democrats had won a majority in the House, there would have been no Congressional investigation, and they would have gotten away with it!
But now that they ARE under Congressional investigation, will the IRS leaders fall on their swords for Obama and his goons, or point fingers higher up to save their jobs? Who in the private sector would hire an IRS official who violated the law to help Obama?
The House committees need to scare these lackeys into pointing fingers at the highest culprit, whoever that may be.
Steve Z on May 17, 2013 at 2:31 PM
Why did the irs wait? d’uh i’m assuming this is a tongue in cheek(where does that phrase come from?) heading for this thread.
the answer of course is so Obama could win.
gerrym51 on May 17, 2013 at 2:32 PM
I’m sure the massive voter fraud helped carry them over the hump. And no, nothing’s going to be done about any of this.
Except complaining, we’re still good at that.
squint on May 17, 2013 at 2:32 PM
O is out shouting nonsense right now about foreign corporations threatening our democracy… Rich…
Pest on May 17, 2013 at 2:35 PM
Prove? Ha! All it does is give conservatives
ammunitionan excuse to pretend they have cause to be suspicious of government. /sFenris on May 17, 2013 at 2:36 PM
There was a bad server the last time that this happened.
RickB on May 17, 2013 at 2:36 PM
That headline is a trick question, right? I mean the answer sought can’t possibly be the most obvious one with which most would respond.
hawkeye54 on May 17, 2013 at 2:36 PM
Under questioning by a Republican House member this morning the Treasury Department Inspector General said:
- In his tenure this activity was the most egregious he has ever seen
- When pressed on this he repeated that it was the worse case he had ever seen. The implication was that pleas of ignorance from senior bureaucrats and the White House are just smoke
-He acknowledged that the IG Report was just an audit – not an investigation
- No emails were reviewed and no effort was made to deliberately track down the people who ordered the actions taken against conservative groups
- When asked if an investigation into these matters was under way – he gave the standard disclaimer that he couldn’t say anything about that. When the Representative replied “I’ll take that as there is more to come on this topic.” the IG smiled and winked.
in_awe on May 17, 2013 at 2:37 PM
Few and rare are the moments when Barry isn’t shouting nonsense.
hawkeye54 on May 17, 2013 at 2:38 PM
Should I be sharpening my pitchfork this weekend?
GhoulAid on May 17, 2013 at 2:39 PM
That would be a good start.
hawkeye54 on May 17, 2013 at 2:39 PM
Allahpundit,
Loudly, clearly, on every occasion: To attack Syria = bump investigations from headlines = huge flagrant abuse of power.
Must be in advance, repeatedly, where Americans can hear it. That fox channel doesn’t count. After the fact = easily sloughed off.
Syria as coverup. war-weary americans can understand it.
kunegetikos on May 17, 2013 at 2:40 PM
Bet on it. Republicans are going to miss the boat if they only run up the traditional org structure scheduling hearings. They need to look at the greedy-union org structure too, which functions as a shadow management structure for the hard-core democratics in the IRS.
slickwillie2001 on May 17, 2013 at 2:41 PM
Probably a little of both. Obama got much fewer votes in 2012 than he did in 2008, but Romney got fewer votes than McCain did in 2008.
Romney trusted his GOTV effort to a computer app called ORCA that was supposed to tell Republican GOTV volunteers which Republican-friendly voters hadn’t yet voted, so that volunteers could call them and offer to take them to the polls. But ORCA turned out to be a beached whale, that failed miserably on Election Day, and GOP volunteers couldn’t even log in, and no low-tech backup system (such as phone banks) had been set up.
If the turnout of white, non-Hispanic voters in Florida, Ohio, Virginia, and Colorado had been equal to that in 2008, with Romney winning 59% of them, Romney would have been President.
Then again, even if the Romney campaign itself was ineffective, if the Tea Party or Patriot groups had been able to raise more money without harrassment from the IRS, and conduct their own GOTV operations in addition to Romney’s, Romney might have won.
Steve Z on May 17, 2013 at 2:43 PM
But that is the nature of liberalism.
The trolls invade here all the time, doing and saying things we would not tolerate among our own. Not only do they dare presume to lecture us, they all butthurt and claim ‘victim status’ when we strike back.
Liberals are predictable. And they’re never going to change.
Liam on May 17, 2013 at 2:46 PM
“If they bring a knife to the fight, you bring a gun.”
“If they bring a gadsen flag to the fight, you bring a IRS auditor”
– Barry Milhouse Obama
HumpBot Salvation on May 17, 2013 at 2:46 PM
As a way to make it up to the American people for our customer service mishaps we will send, at no charge, a family sized sample of Soylent Green to every address which sent in a Federal Income Tax form by April 15, 2017. Enjoy!
Lily on May 17, 2013 at 2:48 PM
Well you came to the right place to swim in theories.
I think the latest is that is was done to as a dastardly way to stop the Tea Party movement from achieving full dominance.
I mean, how else could one explain the movement’s decline into irrelevant?
verbaluce on May 17, 2013 at 2:49 PM
Geez. And remember back in 2012 how democrats were screaming about hypothetical voter suppression because some states simply wanted voter ID laws? Then it turns out they were using the freaking IRS to suppress voters all along!
Grrrrr. So angry.
bitsy on May 17, 2013 at 2:49 PM
4 names , to start with :
http://www.therightscoop.com/fox-19s-ben-swann-names-4-irs-agents-that-participated-in-scandal-suggests-they-could-face-criminal-charges/
Nice report , doing the work the NY+DC media won’t do !!
burrata on May 17, 2013 at 2:50 PM
I keep hearing about the “lack of turnout” but the election results seem to discredit that meme.
2004 election
Bush 62 million and change
Kerry 59 million and change
2008 election
McCain 59 million and change
Obama 69 million and change
2012 election
Romney 61.9 million and change
Obama 65 million and change.
Based on this I see Romney nearly matched Bush’s totals. Actually about 800k short. While obama lost nearly 4 million votes. It appears the only lack of turnout was on Obama’s side.
I’ll agree that their are lots of registered voters who didn’t vote but also don’t generally vote. I’m hard pressed to see where Romney could have made up the 4 million difference between the two. It is possible that he could have won the election with a bit better turnout in key states and still lost the popular vote like the Bush/Gore 2000 election.
chemman on May 17, 2013 at 2:51 PM
~blinks~
Okay — How did my response end up ahead of the person to whom I was responding?
Liam on May 17, 2013 at 2:55 PM
From Constitutional Republic to Banana Republic, thanks to the media and the communists posing as Americans.
The Rogue Tomato on May 17, 2013 at 2:10 PM
In just two generations……..
GWB on May 17, 2013 at 2:57 PM
They’re heeeeeere!
GWB on May 17, 2013 at 2:57 PM
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