Quotes of the day

posted at 10:34 pm on October 29, 2012 by Allahpundit

There were limitless political possibilities to consider. The Huffington Post ran an exclusive about how the hurricane could disrupt pollsters’ “ability to conduct interviews or to reach the millions of Americans who may soon be without electricity or telephone service” — thus playing havoc with the tracking polls. Writing for washingtonpost.com, Democratic strategist Carter Eskew predicted that the storm damage might make it “hard” for Obama “to be at rallies in Iowa or Colorado.”

Nobody did more hurricane war-gaming than Politico, which examined every possible political permutation: It could help Obama in Virginia and Ohio; it could hurt Obama in Virginia and Ohio; it could blunt the impact of political ads; it could magnify the impact of political ads; it could make Obama look presidential; it could magnify any Obama mistake; it could stop Romney’s momentum; it could complicate Obama’s “ground game”; it could help New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie’s 2016 presidential bid.

In other words: Nobody had any idea.

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Just the forecast of a potential disaster can make politics look small. So far, the Romney campaign has stopped fund-raising e-mails into affected states, made a campaign bus available for relief efforts, started taking up collections in campaign offices and put up a blog with weather-related advice.

And the itinerary may change.

Optics are tricky, said one top Republican who added the schedule may change depending on what the storm does. A disaster somewhere would make campaigning anywhere difficult.

Mixing politics and weather is to double-down on the unknown.

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Obama as Commander-in-Chief in a time of national emergency, not just a beleaguered incumbent presiding over a worst-ever economic recovery. The rally-around-the flag phenomenon. People looking to government for help. Beyond psychology, it might also help Obama since he seems to be leading among early voters,and the aftermath of the superstorm might prevent Romney voters from getting to the polls next Tuesday.

But the other side of that trade is this: Millions of Americans are being forced to spend lots of money on hurricane preparations — extra food, flashlights, batteries generators, plywoood, hotels — at time when they are trying to rebuild their savings. Millions of Americans whose incomes and take-home pay fell not only during the Great Recession but also during the Not-So-Great Recovery — or as I put it, the Long Recession. These unexpected expenditures might well remind many of a) how precarious their financial situation is and b) how they’re not back to even despite a supposed three-year economic rebound.

And if you think Romney is ahead, Sandy might well freeze the race to his advantage.

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There is also the effect Sandy will have on the media, which already has focused primarily on the weather and much less on the presidential campaign. This gives candidates less space and time to influence events. Ordinarily, this would be a valuable time, a period when campaigns have one last week to shape voters’ preferences, but this will become extraordinary difficult…

Finally there is the big question of voting behavior. How will severe weather affect voters in states such as Virginia?

Many observers expect that this could depress voting in lower-income areas, which are often badly affected and which have the least resources to recover, a development which would naturally hurt Democrats. It also has caused cancellations in early voting that might have benefited Obama’s vote total.

Another unpredictable factor is the sheer anger and frustration that can come from a weather crisis like this, which might very well intensify the broader sense of malaise that exists in the electorate. Even to those who are not in the path of the hurricane, this could feel like one more punch in the face to a nation tired of waiting for real economic recovery.

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Limbaugh said that media’s coverage of the storm will soak up news about Mitt Romney.

“The minute you tell yourself you got the game figured out, the golf gods make sure that you screw up the next two rounds. Well, the weather gods have interceded here,” Limbaugh said.

“They have intervened in this campaign and in this effort. You’ve got potential devastation and destruction in the media capitals of this country: Washington and New York,” the conservative talker continued, according to the transcript. “And the residents and the occupants of these media organizations in Washington and New York are the ones who are gonna be standing out in the street telling everybody else how bad it is. Not how bad Romney is. Not how dangerous Romney is. How dangerous the storm is.”

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According to news accounts and a Republican source familiar with the outside group activity, Americans for Job Security went up with TV ads in Pennsylvania over the weekend, and Restore Our Future goes on the air there Tuesday.

And now both this source and Karl Rove speaking on Fox News Monday evening suggest American Crossroads just might also go on the Keystone State TV airwaves as early as Wednesday…

The storm has scrambled everything, including TV ad strategies, but there is no doubt that if the public polls are even close to correct, all these end-game ad buys are going to put some resource pressure on Chicago.

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Fugate did not address whether the election could be delayed — a question that federal officials said last week is up for states to decide.

“Whether the election can be postponed or not is a legal black hole,” said Adam Winkler, a law professor at the University of California at Los Angeles. “There’s very little precedent for such an act.”

Federal law requires presidential elections to be held on the Tuesday after the first Monday in November, but it also provides that if a state “has failed to make a choice on the day prescribed by law, the electors may be appointed on a subsequent day in such a manner as the legislature of such State may direct.”…

At the moment, Fugate said, authorities don’t have enough information about Sandy’s impacts.

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“We’re coming down to the 11th hour. We’re facing a violent storm,” Clinton said. He waited a beat, then added, “It’s nothing compared to the storm we’ll face if you don’t make the right decision in this election.”

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You have to watch this.

gophergirl on October 29, 2012 at 11:56 PM

Sorry, no I don’t.

Couldn’t get past the first 47 seconds.

cozmo on October 29, 2012 at 11:58 PM

portlandon on October 29, 2012 at 11:54 PM

Last report I heard was that the captain is still missing but that they had found the other missing crew member but unfortunately she is unresponsive. I heard that around 8 p.m. EST.

Cindy Munford on October 29, 2012 at 11:58 PM

Ok, folks.. I’m frustrated as H , here…..
Any possible explanation for WHY my Safari browser/iPad crashes every stinking time I get to postin’ on HA ??
Don’t go the Firefox route, BC this is NEW for my Safari.  Scripts, perhaps ??
I dunno.   
Typing a NOTE to c/p so I can post as quick as possible.
Anyone else in this pickle ?  Any help ?

pambi on October 29, 2012 at 11:59 PM

All this disappointment with Petraeus… remember MoveOn.org called him “Betray Us”?

Seems like the higher up they go, the more politician they become.

dukecitygirl on October 30, 2012 at 12:00 AM

gophergirl on October 29, 2012 at 11:56 PM

They’re as dumb as the phone lady and Obama’s other adherets, aka ‘slaves’. Ann Coulter said tonight “it’s official, Obama has a lock on stupid voters; the Rs are never gon’ get them”.

Schadenfreude on October 30, 2012 at 12:00 AM

He spoke it like it’s spelled. It was funny.

portlandon on October 29, 2012 at 11:52 PM

I was embarrassed for the man. I applaud the attempt, but good God.

John the Libertarian on October 30, 2012 at 12:01 AM

Sorry, no I don’t.

Couldn’t get past the first 47 seconds.

cozmo on October 29, 2012 at 11:58 PM

Oh you missed the best part

“You got to get more in debt in order to get out of debt”

Oh and runner up in response to what is Obama’s second term agenda

“Forward”

gophergirl on October 30, 2012 at 12:02 AM

All this disappointment with Petraeus… remember MoveOn.org called him “Betray Us”?

Seems like the higher up they go, the more politician they become.

dukecitygirl on October 30, 2012 at 12:00 AM

He had the devotion of the right. If he had hung Obama out to dry, he could have aspired to the presidency.

John the Libertarian on October 30, 2012 at 12:03 AM

after 6 months of reading my drivel

SWalker on October 29, 2012 at 11:48 PM

I just checked, and I’m sorry to tell you my friend, you’re still listed on ATTAAAAACK WAAAAAATCH.

John the Libertarian on October 29, 2012 at 11:54 PM

Yea, but they don’t actually bother reading anything I post anymore, it was driving them bonkers. They offered to pay me to quit posting just so they wouldn’t have to read me nonsense anymore, I really should have taken them upon that offer.

SWalker on October 30, 2012 at 12:03 AM

Fun’s over for me, husband home, computer time done for the night.

God Bless all of you, especially those in the path of destruction.

Jvette on October 30, 2012 at 12:04 AM

You have to watch this.

The 47% in all it’s glory.

gophergirl on October 29, 2012 at 11:56 PM

Holy Crap.

I am always shocked at how stupid the basic Obama voter is.

Every cliche was present.

ObamaPhone!!!

portlandon on October 30, 2012 at 12:04 AM

gophergirl on October 29, 2012 at 11:56 PM

“Republicans want to see what we know”. They know pretty much know what I thought, not a lot.

Cindy Munford on October 30, 2012 at 12:04 AM

Just caught Ty Woods’ dad and family on Hannity, replay. If you watch until the end, your eyes will not be dry, unless you have no soul.

That the traitorous LSM doesn’t cover this entire Benghazi thing will be their ultimate undoing. This is not going to go away.

TXUS on October 30, 2012 at 12:05 AM

PowerLine has this summation of Benghazi. Notice the word persecution in the second paragraph. These guys are attorneys and they know the difference between persecute and prosecute.

In our posts about Benghazigate, we have focused on (1) the failure of the Obama administration to provide needed (and requested) security in Benghazi, (2) the Obama administration’s refusal to call for military assistance when our personnel were under deadly attack, and (3) the adminstration’s unwillingness to speak honestly about the attack in the days following it and, it appears, even until this day.

Bill Otis identifies a fourth issue, albeit one that’s related to the third: the Department of Justice’s persecution of the producer of an internet video that offends Muslims. The persecution consists of charging the producer with a probabtion violation.

Based on his decades of service as a federal prosecutor, Bill tells me that that probation violators routinely get a pass on violations far more serious and suggestive of renewed criminality than making a perfectly legal (and, some would think, First Amendment-protected) video. But the producer of this particular video was hustled off to the slammer in no time.

INC on October 30, 2012 at 12:05 AM

Well, seein’ as there’s not gonna be any porkbutt tonight, I might as well go to bed.

Later, ‘cons.

Lanceman on October 30, 2012 at 12:06 AM

SWalker on October 30, 2012 at 12:03 AM

Are you serious?

INC on October 30, 2012 at 12:06 AM

I swear I heard that poor Obama commercial narrated by Morgan Freedom four times in a half hour tonight.

Cindy Munford on October 29, 2012 at 11:34 PM

Cindy Munford:

I heard,and seen it yesterday,I believe its the latest Freeman
Political Ad,for Hopey!:)

canopfor on October 30, 2012 at 12:06 AM

gophergirl on October 29, 2012 at 11:56 PM

Just sad.

KCB on October 30, 2012 at 12:06 AM

Eugene Robinson is an incredible fool.

Schadenfreude on October 30, 2012 at 12:06 AM

Obama to create a Secretary of Wind

faraway on October 29, 2012 at 11:37 PM

…ok…I had to LOL!

KOOLAID2 on October 30, 2012 at 12:08 AM

other adherets adherents, aka ‘slaves’

Schadenfreude on October 30, 2012 at 12:08 AM

hmmm, I thought NYC would go dark next Tuesday :)

faraway on October 30, 2012 at 12:08 AM

Question, what was the Bounty doing off the coast of NC in a storm like this? It’s not like this storm snuck up on anyone. Was it simply not fast enough to get out of the way?

mpthompson on October 29, 2012 at 11:57 PM

Very, very good question, and that was my first thought when I heard that this fragile ship was at sea as the hurricane was right off the coast of NC.

UltimateBob on October 30, 2012 at 12:08 AM

Obama to create a Secretary of Wind Hot Air

faraway on October 29, 2012 at 11:37 PM

Schadenfreude on October 30, 2012 at 12:08 AM

SWalker on October 30, 2012 at 12:03 AM

Are you serious?

INC on October 30, 2012 at 12:06 AM

Doh…. Quick…. somebody, get me a net…. (who said Bishop fished this place out??? )

SWalker on October 30, 2012 at 12:09 AM

SWalker on October 30, 2012 at 12:09 AM

Oh, no!

Well, I’ve read some of the stuff you post, you know!

INC on October 30, 2012 at 12:10 AM

Based on his decades of service as a federal prosecutor, Bill tells me that that probation violators routinely get a pass on violations far more serious and suggestive of renewed criminality than making a perfectly legal (and, some would think, First Amendment-protected) video. But the producer of this particular video was hustled off to the slammer in no time.

INC on October 30, 2012 at 12:05 AM

Not only that but his first date in court is 3 days after Nov. 6.

Schadenfreude on October 30, 2012 at 12:10 AM

pambi on October 29, 2012 at 11:59 PM

I had that problem a few weeks ago. I had been ignoring an update to Settings, but after I finally downloaded the updates, no problems and Safari has been running fine.

Brat on October 30, 2012 at 12:10 AM

You have to watch this.

gophergirl on October 29, 2012 at 11:56 PM

.
Sorry, no I don’t.

Couldn’t get past the first 47 seconds.

cozmo on October 29, 2012 at 11:58 PM

.
I could.

My take:

None of them has a clue idea what they really believe, or why. They’re all just a bunch of “groupies”.

listens2glenn on October 30, 2012 at 12:11 AM

Exit question: Will a case of Cheetos stay fresh until the Apocalypse?

faraway on October 30, 2012 at 12:11 AM

SWalker on October 30, 2012 at 12:09 AM

Oh, no!

Well, I’ve read some of the stuff you post, you know!

INC on October 30, 2012 at 12:10 AM

Just clown with John the Libertarian cause his Firefox is loading like a drunk walking on a small sailboats deck… ;p

SWalker on October 30, 2012 at 12:12 AM

Not only that but his first date in court is 3 days after Nov. 6.

Schadenfreude on October 30, 2012 at 12:10 AM

And that’s part of the entire grotesque travesty.

INC on October 30, 2012 at 12:13 AM

Exit question: Will a case of Cheetos stay fresh until the Apocalypse?

faraway on October 30, 2012 at 12:11 AM

Charles Ichyfish Johnson could answer that question, but he’s probably need to do a rather serious and prolonged taste test first to determine their current state of freshness..

SWalker on October 30, 2012 at 12:14 AM

Just clown with John the Libertarian cause his Firefox is loading like a drunk walking on a small sailboats deck… ;p

SWalker on October 30, 2012 at 12:12 AM

I haven’t read much on page 2. I was here for the early part of page 1, and then went for a snack and to read some other stuff. I just got back a few minutes ago.

INC on October 30, 2012 at 12:14 AM

SWalker on October 30, 2012 at 12:03 AM

.
Are you serious?

INC on October 30, 2012 at 12:06 AM

.
Doh…. Quick…. somebody, get me a net…. (who said Bishop fished this place out??? )

SWalker on October 30, 2012 at 12:09 AM

.
That was mean, ‘Walker. : )

listens2glenn on October 30, 2012 at 12:14 AM

I swear I heard that poor Obama commercial narrated by Morgan Freedom four times in a half hour tonight.

Cindy Munford on October 29, 2012 at 11:34 PM

Every time I hear that it reminds me of Freeman’s voice overs of the VISA Olympic ads. I expect “and they don’t take American Express” at the end.

Brat on October 30, 2012 at 12:15 AM

Yes, Petraeus lied about what supposedly led up to the attack, the video-inspired, spontaneous mob crapola. But, once the attack was underway, there are only two people who could have called off help, POTUS (who says he ordered help, yeah right) or SecDef (Panetta) who says they didn’t because of a lack of real-time intel and not wanting to send rescue forces into the unknown. There was real-time intel and either Obama lied or Panetta violated orders. It’s that f**king simple. As to Petraeus, the CIA made it clear that they didn’t order SD, which is true, but since such orders can only come from POTUS or SecDef when an ambassador is in peril it is one of them who has the blood on their hands, and I’m betting Obama.

TXUS on October 29, 2012 at 11:55 PM

.
I have been “occamming” the “failure to respond/support/fire” scenarios via a “liberal outlook model” in my head since last Thursday.

There is a SIMPLE liberal rationale that would explain the “failure to respond/support/fire” and the “blame it on the video” storyline which the SCOAMF and his ilk put forward:

(Caveat: this is not saying I agree/support or am anything but disgusted with this hypothetical line of reasoning.)

There had already been an “incident” and an apology for the “cause of the incident” at the Cairo Embassy.

From the SCOAMF & Co.’s world outlook it was vitally important to do nothing to further inflame the “Arab Street”.

Despite having live video feeds, FLASH traffic regarding the Ambassador & THREE requests for fire support:

The SCOAMF and Co. were overwhelmingly afraid of using an armed Predator, sending a Specter gunship or releaasing the In Extremis team …

… for fear of Libyan dead and injured further inflaming the “Arab Street” as a result of “authorizing” the use of deadly force to rescue the American personnel.

Feel free to vomit but it fits their “collective mindset” AND explains WHY they stuck to the “it was because of the video” BS for so long.

PolAgnostic on October 30, 2012 at 12:16 AM

canopfor on October 30, 2012 at 12:06 AM

There are some definite drawbacks of living in a “swing” state.

Cindy Munford on October 30, 2012 at 12:16 AM

Brat on October 30, 2012 at 12:15 AM

Yeah but we know Obama takes anything and everything.

Cindy Munford on October 30, 2012 at 12:18 AM

Are you serious?

INC on October 30, 2012 at 12:06 AM

Nope. Just having fun.

John the Libertarian on October 30, 2012 at 12:18 AM

“The minute you tell yourself you got the game figured out, the golf gods make sure that you screw up the next two rounds. Well, the weather gods have interceded here,” Limbaugh said.

“They have intervened in this campaign and in this effort. You’ve got potential devastation and destruction in the media capitals of this country: Washington and New York,” the conservative talker continued, according to the transcript. “And the residents and the occupants of these media organizations in Washington and New York are the ones who are gonna be standing out in the street telling everybody else how bad it is. Not how bad Romney is. Not how dangerous Romney is. How dangerous the storm is.”

I was going to point out that this cuts both ways. They won’t be talking about Benghazi either. But then I remembered: they don’t / won’t do that anyway. So, yes, once again Rush is right.

dont taze me bro on October 30, 2012 at 12:19 AM

Remember, it isn’t a major hurricane until Shemp Smith goes berserk.

viking01 on October 30, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Exit question: Will a case of Cheetos stay fresh until the Apocalypse?

faraway on October 30, 2012 at 12:11 AM

Ummm, no, unless the Apocalypse is within the next 3 months. They go rancid rather quickly; trust me on this.

AZfederalist on October 30, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Remember, it isn’t a major hurricane until Shemp Smith goes berserk.

viking01 on October 30, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Yea, but Shemp goes berserk when the shower is turned up to high too though…

SWalker on October 30, 2012 at 12:21 AM

Brat on October 30, 2012 at 12:10 AM

Thanks… This is my third time to ask you … Can you tell me how to update Safari on my iPad ??  Wish I could just Uninstall/reinstall, but can’t figure out how.
Will read your help/instructions if HA will stay open long enough .. Arrrgghh
(another c/p, in haste… OY)

pambi on October 30, 2012 at 12:21 AM

Exit question: Will a case of Cheetos stay fresh until the Apocalypse?

faraway on October 30, 2012 at 12:11 AM


Additional date required.

Please provide month/day/year of proposed Apocalypse.

PolAgnostic on October 30, 2012 at 12:22 AM

Yea, but Shemp goes berserk when the shower is turned up to high too though…

SWalker on October 30, 2012 at 12:21 AM

… not to mention hangnails, static cling and bad hair days…

viking01 on October 30, 2012 at 12:24 AM

SWalker on October 30, 2012 at 12:21 AM

But only during Republican administrations.

Cindy Munford on October 30, 2012 at 12:26 AM

PolAgnostic on October 30, 2012 at 12:16 AM

Sounds like a plausible theory. I can’t imagine how they thought this was going to work out for them. I know they are certain of media topcover; but at some point, there had to be some additional thought process that the tissue-thin cover story that an obscure video that no one had ever seen was not going to last long.

AZfederalist on October 30, 2012 at 12:26 AM

We’re all a bunch of clowns. And to all of our service people who are reading this blog and unable to reply — we love you, and respect you, and admire your ability to fight for us — please stay safe and keep fighting the GOOD FIGHT. You are Tyrone Woods. What a hero.

John the Libertarian on October 30, 2012 at 12:28 AM

Brat on October 30, 2012 at 12:10 AM

Thanks .. Do I update settings thru iTunes ?
Can do, just dinna know it was necessary.
Old broad, new toys, here !!  LOL 

pambi on October 30, 2012 at 12:28 AM

BREAKING: Huffpo’s server went out.

Bejesus, no one is getting plucked from rooftops or theire homes washing down the road.

The worst is, no double pump lite Carmel whatsis from Starbucks tomorrow.

socalcon on October 30, 2012 at 12:29 AM

You have to watch this.

The 47% in all it’s glory.

gophergirl on October 29, 2012 at 11:56 PM

“I don’t know what it is but I’m sure it’s good” then she’s the same one who, at the end says, “They want to find out what we know.”

You can’t make this stuff up.

Cleombrotus on October 30, 2012 at 12:29 AM

To take advantage of the storm diversion Obama is now funneling his illegal foreign campaign contributions through Old Jersey.

viking01 on October 30, 2012 at 12:31 AM

Pambi

I’m no expert but here is what I know:

Go to Settings
General
Software Update

If you haven’t updated to iOS 6.0, you should be able to from there. Mine says my software is up to date. Hope this helps.

Brat on October 30, 2012 at 12:31 AM

BREAKING: Huffpo’s server went out.

socalcon on October 30, 2012 at 12:29 AM

Dozens hardest hit.

viking01 on October 30, 2012 at 12:33 AM

What the Fifth Column Treasonous Media has been doing IS NOT dereliction of duty, it is 100 percent intentional criminal malfeasance. I do not want them to go “Down” for this, I want them to go UP… Up as in dangling by a nice Stout Hemp Rope from a Streetlamp on Pennsylvania Ave.

SWalker on October 29, 2012 at 11:43 PM

The best way to prevent another 0bama is to arrest the owners and editors of MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS and NBC, try them for treason for attempting to throw a presidential election, and then hang them until dead from a streetlight in public and let their bodies rot for a month.

Until the MSM is reformed by force of law, another 0bama will always come.

cane_loader on October 30, 2012 at 12:33 AM

So now, following the Katrina chain of events, we get to see if Bloomberg sends the Nat’l guard door to door, confiscating Toys R Us bow & arrow sets.

cane_loader on October 30, 2012 at 12:35 AM

Exit question: Will a case of Cheetos stay fresh until the Apocalypse?

faraway on October 30, 2012 at 12:11 AM

Ummm, no, unless the Apocalypse is within the next 3 months. They go rancid rather quickly; trust me on this.

AZfederalist on October 30, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Apocalypse is supposed to be scheduled in about 7-8 weeks though isn’t it? So you should be okay…

Gingotts on October 30, 2012 at 12:36 AM

Howdy. I’m going to go into full lacking empathy Aspie mode and say that natural disasters fascinate me. I think this hurricane is something awesome. Shame that this awesomeness does such bad things.

annoyinglittletwerp on October 30, 2012 at 12:37 AM

Old broad, new toys, here !! LOL

pambi on October 30, 2012 at 12:28 AM

Same here, sister!

Brat on October 30, 2012 at 12:40 AM

NumbersMuncher ‏@NumbersMuncher
SurveyUSA FL poll has a tie @ 47%, was O+1 last time. Romney up 5 w/ indies. Sample is D+5 (was D+3 in 08, even in 2010).

gumbyandpokey on October 30, 2012 at 12:41 AM

NumbersMuncher ‏@NumbersMuncher
SurveyUSA FL poll has a tie @ 47%, was O+1 last time. Romney up 5 w/ indies. Sample is D+5 (was D+3 in 08, even in 2010).

gumbyandpokey on October 30, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Yawn

Conservative4ev on October 30, 2012 at 12:42 AM

Hi all, no disaster here in north-central NH so far. PSNH supposedly brought crews up from Texas and Oklahoma to help them out.

Del Dolemonte on October 30, 2012 at 12:44 AM

Watching Burt Lancaster in trials on Nuremberg and he said their motto was forward hahahahahahahahahaahahhaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahah

Conservative4ev on October 30, 2012 at 12:44 AM

NumbersMuncher ‏@NumbersMuncher
SurveyUSA FL poll has a tie @ 47%, was O+1 last time. Romney up 5 w/ indies. Sample is D+5 (was D+3 in 08, even in 2010).

gumbyandpokey on October 30, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Yes, gumby… If Obama can somehow puke out even more Democrats than the wave election of 2008, perhaps he can scratch out a tie in Florida.

I’m ummm… all demoralized and stuff now?

Kim Jong-Un hangs his head in shame at your weaksauce attempts for propaganda dealing.

Gingotts on October 30, 2012 at 12:46 AM

canopfor on October 30, 2012 at 12:06 AM

There are some definite drawbacks of living in a “swing” state.

Cindy Munford on October 30, 2012 at 12:16 AM

Cindy Munford:Interesting:)

canopfor on October 30, 2012 at 12:46 AM

… for fear of Libyan dead and injured further inflaming the “Arab Street” as a result of “authorizing” the use of deadly force to rescue the American personnel.

PolAgnostic on October 30, 2012 at 12:16 AM

While the inflammation of the Arab Street certainly was in their minds in the macro sense, actually that concept is in their DNA (no matter the killing of OBL and the killer drones on parade since), Obama’s refusal to order assistance or vetoing what were standard orders in that regard, in my view, was done to protect his narrative that the overthrow/killing of Kaddafi and the resulting “democratic uprising” was a resounding success, thus making a show of any military intervention on our part, even to save our own, a departure from the narrative.

Also, I’m sure they were thinking about what if something goes wrong in the process, like a repeat of Jimmah’s failed rescue of the hostages in Iran in 1979, a comparison of course that they try to avoid at every juncture, and understandably so.

Hence the bumbling and stumbling by Obama, Hillary, Rice, Petraeus, et al., and their lies. The noose, and I know I’ll be accused by Chris Matthews as a racist for using the term, is tightening.

TXUS on October 30, 2012 at 12:47 AM

NumbersMuncher ‏@NumbersMuncher
NPR national poll has Romney up 1, 48-47 (was O+7 last month). Romney up 12 w/ independents. Sample is D+4.

gumbyandpokey on October 30, 2012 at 12:49 AM

Watching Burt Lancaster in trials on Nuremberg and he said their motto was forward hahahahahahahahahaahahhaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahah

Conservative4ev on October 30, 2012 at 12:44 AM

Judgment at Nuremberg? Great movie. It’s been a couple of years since I last watched it… some great acting out of Maximilian Schell.

Did you catch The Shat in there?

Gingotts on October 30, 2012 at 12:49 AM

I hope you stay safe Del D.

Conservative4ev, so is the Chinese communism one – the Great Leap Forward. The Hitler youth had an anthem called “Vorwaerts! Vorwaerts!”

Schadenfreude on October 30, 2012 at 12:50 AM

Did you catch The Shat in there?

Gingotts on October 30, 2012 at 12:49 AM

I did he was an officer

Conservative4ev on October 30, 2012 at 12:50 AM

gumbyandpokey on October 30, 2012 at 12:49 AM

You’re turning, you squish.

Schadenfreude on October 30, 2012 at 12:51 AM

gumbypokey……

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMYWXQeWjws

portlandon on October 30, 2012 at 12:51 AM

I hope you stay safe Del D.

Conservative4ev, so is the Chinese communism one – the Great Leap Forward. The Hitler youth had an anthem called “Vorwaerts! Vorwaerts!”

Schadenfreude on October 30, 2012 at 12:50 AM

Yea well aware of it, it was surprising that Lancaster says their motto of forward, coming from Hollywood. But back then Hollywood did have some good conservatives. Today if they remade this movie, forward would not be mentioned :)

Conservative4ev on October 30, 2012 at 12:52 AM

Howdy. I’m going to go into full lacking empathy Aspie mode and say that natural disasters fascinate me. I think this hurricane is something awesome. Shame that this awesomeness does such bad things.

annoyinglittletwerp on October 30, 2012 at 12:37 AM

Its Mother nature. She makes kewl things; Volcanoes and frogs and even Twerps. (:

SparkPlug on October 30, 2012 at 12:54 AM

So now, following the Katrina chain of events, we get to see if Bloomberg sends the Nat’l guard door to door, confiscating Toys R Us bow & arrow sets.

cane_loader on October 30, 2012 at 12:35 AM

Are NYC residents actually allowed to own such dangerous military grade weaponry? Pretty sure only the gang bangers will have anything like that.

/I wish that were sarcasm

AZfederalist on October 30, 2012 at 12:54 AM

I did he was an officer

Conservative4ev on October 30, 2012 at 12:50 AM

Heh. Yep. Always a Captain…

Gingotts on October 30, 2012 at 12:55 AM

SWalker on October 29, 2012 at 11:43 PM

The best way to prevent another 0bama is to arrest the owners and editors of MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS and NBC, try them for treason for attempting to throw a presidential election, and then hang them until dead from a streetlight in public and let their bodies rot for a month.

Until the MSM is reformed by force of law, another 0bama will always come.

cane_loader on October 30, 2012 at 12:33 AM

As horrifying and frightening of a thought as that it, it is sadly also probably the truth.

SWalker on October 30, 2012 at 12:55 AM

Thanks, Brat, will update to 6 in the AM !

pambi on October 30, 2012 at 12:56 AM

Schadenfreude on October 30, 2012 at 12:51 AM

Guess it decided that it had no credibility so is attempting to build some before dropping some more of its “Obama is a lock, the polls tell me so” crap a couple days before the election. Kind of hard to dispirit people when your posting handle has become a laughingstock and term of derision. Doesn’t do much for your credibility as a propagandist.

/Hint to gumbo: too little, too late.

AZfederalist on October 30, 2012 at 12:57 AM

gumbyandpokey on October 30, 2012 at 12:49 AM

You’re turning, you squish.

Schadenfreude on October 30, 2012 at 12:51 AM

LOL. Poor gumby… PPP is taking a bit of a break because of the storm, so now he’s reduced to reporting narrow Romney leads as the best possible news for his side.

Gingotts on October 30, 2012 at 12:57 AM

“gumbyandpokey on October 30, 2012 at 12:49 AM

You’re turning, you squish.

Schadenfreude on October 30, 2012 at 12:51 AM”

Not at all. I just post results as soon as I see them.

The disconnect between the national and battleground state polls is really interesting. There is a legit chance of Romney winning the popular vote and losing the EC.

gumbyandpokey on October 30, 2012 at 12:57 AM

http://twitpic.com/b8nd39

canopfor on October 29, 2012 at 11:50 PM

Wow. That’s probably the first and last 3 mast sailing ship I will ever see sinking.

Sad. Did they find the 2 missing yet?

portlandon on October 29, 2012 at 11:54 PM

portlandon:)
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14 rescued, one unresponsive, one missing as HMS Bounty replica sinks

From: AP
October 30, 2012 1:59PM
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/rescued-two-missing-as-hms-bounty-replica-sinks/story-e6frf7jo-1226506277839

HMS Bounty…at one with the sea…global voyager…movie star…dedicated to preserving the fine art of square-rigged sailing.

The HMS Bounty is one of the most famous ships in the world. Known for the storied mutiny that took place in Tahiti in 1789 on board the British transport vessel, the current Bounty, a replica, has survived to tell the tale. Built for the 1962 movie “Mutiny on the Bounty” with Marlon Brando, HMS Bounty sails the country offering dockside tours in which one can learn about the history and details of sailing vessels from a lost and romanticized time in maritime history. Since her debut in “Mutiny on the Bounty”, HMS Bounty has appeared in many documentaries and featured films such as the Edinburgh Trader in Pirates of the Caribbean Dead Mans Chest with Johnny Depp.

UPDATED NEWS!!!!!!!! We received a distress call for Bounty at 1830 Sunday evening October 28th that the Ship lost power and the pumps were unable to keep up with the dewatering. At that time we immediately contacted the USCG for assistance. A C130 was sent to there position approximately 90 miles SE of Cape Hatteras. Sunday morning approximately 0400, the Captain ordered all hands to abandon ship. There were 16 Crew on board. The USCG dispatched helicopters to rescue the brave crew. At this time, 14 of the 16 crew members have been safely returned to land and are in good health. We are saddened to report that there is still one crew member missing and one crew member that did not make it. Our hearts and prayers go out to the family of the crew member that is no longer with us. The USCG is continuing their efforts to search for the missing crew member and we are praying for a safe return. Please keep them in your prayers! We will keep everyone informed as info becomes available.

http://www.tallshipbounty.org/

canopfor on October 30, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Howdy. I’m going to go into full lacking empathy Aspie mode and say that natural disasters fascinate me. I think this hurricane is something awesome. Shame that this awesomeness does such bad things.

annoyinglittletwerp on October 30, 2012 at 12:37 AM

Not an Aspie but more of an ass, as my friends would agree, I’m fascinated as well about natural disasters. Especially like the one that occurred when the sperm of Obama’s father, whoever he is, combined with the “egg” of his mother, Stanley.

A natural disaster far worse than what’s going on with a hurricane anywhere.

TXUS on October 30, 2012 at 1:02 AM

Until the MSM is reformed by force of law, another 0bama will always come.

cane_loader on October 30, 2012 at 12:33 AM

As horrifying and frightening of a thought as that it, it is sadly also probably the truth.

SWalker on October 30, 2012 at 12:55 AM

No! Government and law is not the answer. What kind of conservative position is that? The fact that the MSM is so far left and in the tank is a fact, but fixing it is not going to be done by government action. It’s going to take the citizens of this country waking up to the fact that every institution, government or media is subject to intense scrutiny and needs to be cut off at the knees when it becomes a propagandist for one side or the other without fully disclosing that it is doing so. For example, talk radio is openly conservative and makes no pretense of the bias of its hosts, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN all profess to be neutral journalists but are as far left or more as Rush Limbaugh is to the right.

It is the citizens of this country that need to hold the MSM’s feet to the fire by not patronizing those institutions of thinly veiled bias and holding that bias up to our not-so-bright or informed fellow citizens.

AZfederalist on October 30, 2012 at 1:03 AM

The disconnect between the national and battleground state polls is really interesting. There is a legit chance of Romney winning the popular vote and losing the EC.

gumbyandpokey on October 30, 2012 at 12:57 AM

How is there a disconnect? It’s remarkably consistent really. If the sample is D+5 or so it’s about tied. Most polls, state or national showing Obama leading have a D+6 sample or higher. Those with less Democratic samples – D+3 Rasmussen or Even/D+1 Gallup show Romney leads.

The only disconnect is the inconsistent sample sizes among the polls. If you believe that Obama will manage vast turnout on par or greater than 2008, then he’ll win – both electoral and popular vote. If you believe, as most convention wisdom suggests and comparative early voting numbers uphold that the turnout will tilt more even or GOP leaning than that, then Romney wins – both electoral and popular vote.

The only chance for a split is with a roughly D+5 electorate. In which case a bunch of major swing states and the national vote are about even, and the split could go either way. I don’t see that as very likely though.

Gingotts on October 30, 2012 at 1:05 AM

pambi on October 30, 2012 at 12:56 AM

You’re welcome. Glad I could help. One major change with iOS 6, you tube will be removed from your home screen…
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/09/19/how-to-get-youtube-back-on-ios-6/

Brat on October 30, 2012 at 1:06 AM

pambi on October 29, 2012 at 11:59 PM

My safari crashes too. On HA a lot lately.

But if you think that’s bad try building a Spark IV numerical copulator and get it to work for more than 10 minutes without crashing.

Oh wait, this just in; the copulator has some results hot off the press. Let me get that print out.

“Dire will be here in 0.7 light-years.”

Not sure when that is.

SparkPlug on October 30, 2012 at 1:09 AM

As horrifying and frightening of a thought as that it, it is sadly also probably the truth.

SWalker on October 30, 2012 at 12:55 AM

No! Government and law is not the answer. What kind of conservative position is that? The fact that the MSM is so far left and in the tank is a fact, but fixing it is not going to be done by government action. It’s going to take the citizens of this country waking up to the fact that every institution, government or media is subject to intense scrutiny and needs to be cut off at the knees when it becomes a propagandist for one side or the other without fully disclosing that it is doing so. For example, talk radio is openly conservative and makes no pretense of the bias of its hosts, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN all profess to be neutral journalists but are as far left or more as Rush Limbaugh is to the right.

It is the citizens of this country that need to hold the MSM’s feet to the fire by not patronizing those institutions of thinly veiled bias and holding that bias up to our not-so-bright or informed fellow citizens.

AZfederalist on October 30, 2012 at 1:03 AM

How do you get a populace that has been indoctrinated and brain washed since birth to even recognize that the Fifth Column Treasonous Media is the enemy of freedom and liberty?

Yea, I did figure it out on my own, even before Andrew Breitbart, but I have also met so many people who are not only clueless to the extent that they have been indoctrinated and brainwashed, but they get incredibly hostile when you attempt to point it out to them.

The problem with indoctrination and brainwashing is… That it actually works.

SWalker on October 30, 2012 at 1:14 AM

The disconnect between the national and battleground state polls is really interesting. There is a legit chance of Romney winning the popular vote and losing the EC.

gumbyandpokey on October 30, 2012 at 12:57 AM

The disconnect between the facts and your brain is fascinating also.

Mitsouko on October 30, 2012 at 1:15 AM

It is the citizens of this country that need to hold the MSM’s feet to the fire by not patronizing those institutions of thinly veiled bias and holding that bias up to our not-so-bright or informed fellow citizens.

AZfederalist on October 30, 2012 at 1:03 AM

I understand your premise.

I truly think that things have gone too far, and the citizenry is too splintered by their various entertainments to effect change itself.

I think that government action actually is needed – some sort of Fairness Doctrine deal, to try to curb the qorst abuses.

Four liberal moderators in four presidential/VP debates is a symptom.

Diane Sawyer and gang, flatly declaring, “Obama won,” – verbatim – 30 seconds after the third debate concluded……

Market forces won’t fix this one. The media has gone badly off the rails and the rails need fixing.

My opinion, only.

cane_loader on October 30, 2012 at 1:17 AM

1 dead, captain missing after 14 saved as Bounty sinks
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9:07PM EDT October 29. 2012 – One crewmember of the tall ship HMS Bounty died and U.S. Coast Guard teams battling Hurricane Sandy rescued 14 others who had abandoned the movie replica before it sank off North Carolina early Monday. The captain is missing.

The body of 42-year-old Claudene Christian was found Monday evening, the Coast Guard reported. The search continues for the 63-year-old captain, Robin Walbridge.

A helicopter from Coast Guard Air Station Elizabeth City, N.C., found Christian, who was “unresponsive.” CPR was performed, and she was then flown to Albemarle Hospital in Elizabeth City. Hospital spokesman Patrick Detwiller said Christian arrived at 6:40 p.m. ET and was pronounced dead at 7 p.m.

She and Walbridge reportedly were swept overboard when they got into lifeboats. Both were in cold-water survival suits and life jackets, CBC News says.

Monday morning, the CBC spoke by phone with Christian’s mother, who said her daughter had contacted her before heading out to sea.

“She says, ‘We’re heading out, and I just wanted to tell you and Dad that I love you.’ And I said, ‘What are you saying that for?’ And she said, ‘Just in case something happens,’” Christian said from Oklahoma. “She was truly and genuinely happy and loved the Bounty and loved what she was doing — and wanted us to know that just in case she went down with the ship.”

Walbridge”s wife, Claudia McCann, told CBC earlier Monday, “He was just trying to avoid (the hurricane), skirt it. Skirt through it, skirt around it. I’m sure he’s devastated. Absolutely devastated. But the crew comes first, and you have to save the crew.”

The 180-foot, three-masted ship was built for the 1962 film Mutiny on the Bounty and was also featured in a Pirates of the Caribbean movie, according to the HMS Bounty Organization website, the AP said.

The Coast Guard said all 16 members of the crew had made it onto life rafts before the three-masted ship sank, but only 14 people were hoisted to safety about 90 miles southeast of Hatteras, N.C.

Coast Guard officials reported that the 14, who were flown to Coast Guard Air Station Elizabeth City, N.C., for medical attention, did not sustain any life-threatening injuries.

WITN-TV reporter Alize Proisy, who was at the Air Station were the survivors were brought in, reported that Coast Guard rescue swimmer Randy Haba helped remove crewmembers from a lifeboat and also helped save one crewmember floating alone in the water.

Haba told WITN that that wind-driven ocean at the scene was some of the biggest seas he has ever been in.

A Coast Guard Hercules C-130 remained on the scene as officials plotted wind direction and speed to aid in the search.

The Coast Guard also reported that the HMS Bounty had sunk, although its mast was still visible above the water. The Coast Guard also said there were only 16 people aboard the ship when it ran into trouble, not 17 as initially reported.

The director of the HMS Bounty Organization, Tracie Simonin, said the tall ship had left Connecticut last week en route for St. Petersburg, Fla., the Associated Press reported.

“They were staying in constant contact with the National Hurricane Center,” she said. “They were trying to make it around the storm.”

The first helicopter reached the scene around 6:30 a.m., about 90 minutes after the crew abandoned ship, and hoisted five people aboard. The second chopper plucked nine people from a second life raft.

The 14 were safely back at the Coast Guard Air Station Elizabeth City, N.C., by mid-morning, WITN-TV reported.

WATCH: HMS Bounty in rough seas two years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI4Jh5_woT0

The crew abandoned the ship, which had lost propulsion, after it began taking on water, the Coast Guard said, according to the Associated Press.

Hatteras, N.C.

The ship was trapped in 40-mph winds and 18-foot seas about 160 miles west of the eye of the hurricane, according to a

Coast Guard statement.
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http://www.uscgnews.com/go/doc/4007/1591447/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+uscgnews%2FURhB+%28New+Releases%29

Coast Guard Vice Adm. Robert Parker, Operational Commander for the Atlantic Area, told ABC’s Good Morning America that at the time of the distress call, the ship was taking on 2 feet of water an hour. It had about 10 feet of water when the crew abandoned the ship.

The Coast Guard first received a call Sunday evening from the ship’s owner who said she had lost communication with the crew.

A signal from the ship’s emergency radio beacon later confirmed that the vessel was in distress and gave its position.

Here is how HMS Bounty Facebook page described what happened:

We received a distress call for Bounty at 1830 Sunday evening that the Ship lost power and the pumps were unable to keep up with the dewatering. At that time we immediately contacted the USCG for assistance.

The crew abandoned the ship, which had lost propulsion, after it began taking on water, the Coast Guard said, according to the Associated Press.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/10/29/hurricane-sandy-ship-abandoned-ship-coast-guard/1665339/

canopfor on October 30, 2012 at 1:18 AM

See you in November, boy it’s been a long 4 years.

MontanaMmmm on October 30, 2012 at 1:21 AM

How do you get a populace that has been indoctrinated and brain washed since birth to even recognize that the Fifth Column Treasonous Media is the enemy of freedom and liberty?

Yea, I did figure it out on my own, even before Andrew Breitbart, …

SWalker on October 30, 2012 at 1:14 AM

That’s the key. There is a core of non-brainwashed people who get the fact that the MSM is far left while they claim neutrality. Even the Gallup poll that showed 60% of people think the media is biased should give some hope to the ability to turn this around. But it is up to this core of people to go fix the problem. It’s not just the MSM though, it’s also the education industry that needs a good cleaning out, starting with the teachers’ colleges. That’s where we are in deep yogurt, to get free-thinking youth, they have to be deprogrammed from the indoctrination they are receiving in the state schools.

AZfederalist on October 30, 2012 at 1:24 AM

Sounds like a plausible theory. I can’t imagine how they thought this was going to work out for them. I know they are certain of media topcover; but at some point, there had to be some additional thought process that the tissue-thin cover story that an obscure video that no one had ever seen was not going to last long.

AZfederalist on October 30, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Well, I am of the opinion that critical thinking is a skill set not possessed by the liberal mind.

Up until 4:00 PM on 9/11/12, Cairo WAS the story of the day. From the Administration POV, they had walked a fine line of not having anything significantly go wrong. The Embassy was not overrun. They were opening daylight between themselves and the “apology” statement from the Embassy.

They DID have the embarassment of the Al Qaida flag being flown at the Cairo Embassy but could count on the LSM squashing that level of detail while playing up the phone call with Netanyahu that occurred that evening.

When Benghazi started going south, their focus was on maintaining the planned newscycle

… and the Benghazi consulate “problem” would be covered by the Cairo Embassy/video storyline.

There would be no visuals of “collateral damage”, wounded Libyans in the hospital or enraged masses in the streets angry about the use of force.

Instead, the SCOAMF went to bed believing the Ambassador was removed from harm by hiding in the safe room.

Unfortunately, Ambassador Stevens was not secure in the safe room. He had been literally smoked out of the safe room and assasinated.

Except the White House didn’t know he was dead, he was “missing” and they were not going to have the situation escalate but authorizing force of any kind.

After that … they went into full coverup mode believing they could keep anyone who knew what actually happened “quiet”.

PolAgnostic on October 30, 2012 at 1:24 AM

TXUS on October 30, 2012 at 1:02 AM

I have another Aspie conservative friend on FB. As women, we’re expected to have empathy-but as Aspies we lack that gene. Like many aspies, my empathy extends more to animals than to people. Someone hurts a shark and I’m all up in arms. It is what it is-but I do find my particular quirk to be somewhat peculiar.
She tries to fake. I can sing-but my acting ability us lacking.

annoyinglittletwerp on October 30, 2012 at 1:25 AM

Most of the Hot Air browser crashes can be traced to the annoying “choices.truste.com” advertisement selector / server web site. The javascript necessary to log in, remain logged in, and post to HA gets used and abused by that ad site where it, through sloppy programming creates a memory hole and the browser active memory starts climbing and climbing and once it reaches about 500meg of wasted memory space browsers like Firefox finally freeze up and indicate “stopped” in the status bar. Refreshing / reloading the HA page usually won’t work at that point.

For Firefox users in Windows you can used Windows Task Manager and select “End process” for “firefox.exe”. Then double click the Firefox icon as usual to restart it and choose “restore previous session”. That will resume HA where you left off (before the browser freeze-up) and still signed in… until “choices.truste.com” or “voicefive.com” or “connexity.net” crash it again.

viking01 on October 30, 2012 at 1:26 AM

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