Newest states in play: Pennsylvania and Minnesota? Update: Romney by one in Colorado

posted at 4:01 pm on October 29, 2012 by Allahpundit

I’m trying to maintain a healthy eeyorish skepticism here but it’s getting harder. Yesterday the AP reported that Biden was headed to Scranton and that Romney — maybe — was headed to Minnesota. Today? Reports of a $2 million ad buy by Mitt’s Super PAC across Pennsylvania, including Philly, and a hastily arranged visit by the Big Dog to Minnesota as part of his midwestern swing on O’s behalf:

As the presidential race narrows in Minnesota, former President Bill Clinton is planning to visit here this week to shore up support for President Barack Obama.

Details of the Tuesday visit are still being worked out. The former president’s visit is part of a Midwest swing that includes Minnesota, Iowa, Colorado, Ohio, Virginia, New Hampshire and Wisconsin, the Obama campaign said. All year, the six other states have been considered battleground areas in the presidential race…

The sudden attention comes as both campaigns have started buying advertising time in Minnesota, which had been lacking until last week.

Question for campaign pros: Is there any reason Biden or Clinton would spend a minute in these states if they weren’t legitimately in play, albeit still likely to go for O? I can understand Romney spending a bit of time and money there for strategic reasons, even if he thought he had no real chance, as an attempt to bluff Obama into spending resources to defend them. But it’s harder for me to imagine Team O being suckered by that bluff if their own internal polls had them comfortably ahead. There’s no way they’d be buying ads in Minnesota with money that could be better spent trying to win Florida or Virginia unless they really felt they needed to, right? And if we’re suddenly seeing enough movement towards Romney in the midwest and Rust Belt to make Minnesota and Pennsylvania kinda sorta competitive, then what’s going on in Wisconsin and Ohio, where Team Mitt is pouring in time and money? You already know what Rasmussen says about the latter; he also had the former tied as of a few days ago, but his is the only poll of Wisconsin in the past 12 days. Note to pollsters: Time to fix that, ASAP.

As for the national polls, they’re all over the map suddenly. Pew has the race tied, Rasmussen has Romney by two, and both Gallup and the Battleground Poll have Romney by five. Even Pew sees cause for optimism, though. Exit quotation: “When the sample is narrowed to likely voters, the balance of opinion shifts slightly in Romney’s direction, as it did in early October. This reflects Romney’s turnout advantage over Obama, which could loom larger as Election Day approaches… Indeed, surveys over the past month have found Republicans becoming much more upbeat about the race and about Mitt Romney himself.”

Update: CNN becomes the second outfit today to find Romney up by one thin point in Colorado — despite Obama leading among independents by eight(!). ARG had Romney ahead earlier by the same margin. The last six polls in the state have gone R+1, R+1, O+1, O+4, Tie, R+4.


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In MA, Romney is now trailing the incumbent by…14 points.

Del Dolemonte on October 29, 2012 at 6:26 PM

Who cares? It isn’t like MA is in play. Those electoral votes were banked months ago.

Happy Nomad on October 29, 2012 at 6:28 PM

I know that, it’s just quite interesting from a statistical angle. As I said I’d love to find out why the drop was as big as it was, because the same thing hasn’t happened in NY or NJ.

Del Dolemonte on October 29, 2012 at 6:34 PM

It doesn’t take much to excite you guys, does it?

gumbyandpokey on October 29, 2012 at 6:12 PM

The irony is rich.

With you if you see that the national polls aren’t going your guy’s why…you than hone in on individual states. You’re a joke …a clown.

CW on October 29, 2012 at 6:34 PM

Honestly, it wouldn’t surprise me if BHO doesn’t bother to show up !!
mooch ? Prolly in HAWAII, setting up the new digs.
Jus sayin’ … We know them well enought to think such.

pambi on October 29, 2012 at 6:29 PM

I think that it is a solid 50-percent chance that neither one of them show up.

ghostwriter on October 29, 2012 at 6:34 PM

Can’t really say how I know this, but Team O is very worried about losing Wisconsin – as worried as they are about Ohio.

BadgerHawk on October 29, 2012 at 6:35 PM

Gumby do tell why do you not THINK when you post ? Who do you not bother looking at the way they use D+ 7 when that is so very unlikely?Are an idiot that likes to be led around by the nose?…that is my guess.

CW on October 29, 2012 at 6:28 PM

Gumby is getting all of his information from Talking Points Memo, and it’s no surprise he’s so misled what with all the marxists and leninists that exist on that site. And just try offering a different point of view there; you won’t last a day.

HiJack on October 29, 2012 at 6:35 PM

I thought R was ahead by 10,000% among Indies?????

PappyD61 on October 29, 2012 at 6:29 PM

You know, I am not a fan of Romney, by any measure, but at this point only an idiot would want Hussein back in WH. A certifiable idiot at that. Save for the 47%, which includes most (not all) “libertarians”, aka communists lite, I can’t see anyone with a brain even thinking about who to vote for next week.

A dead body is better than Hussein at this point.

riddick on October 29, 2012 at 6:37 PM

when ABC News is now reporting tonight that Minnesota and Pennsylvania are moving from “Obama” to “LEAN Obama” just a week before the election..

you know Romney has them on the run.

let’s pray it is not close and we can all wake up on the 7th with a new President!

AirForceCane on October 29, 2012 at 6:37 PM

gumbyandpokey on October 29, 2012 at 6:12 PM

You are the Nate Silver of Hotair …. and that’s not a compliment!

LevinFan on October 29, 2012 at 6:38 PM

Whatever you all do don’t be surprised to wake up one day between now and election day to find out Mitt bombed Pearl Harbor.

Limerick on October 29, 2012 at 6:39 PM

You are the Nate Silver of Hotair …. and that’s not a compliment!

LevinFan on October 29, 2012 at 6:38 PM

Monster drink sales must be going through the roof this week with all the idiots at keyboards.

10,000 monkeys and typewriters and all that…

riddick on October 29, 2012 at 6:40 PM

Can’t really say how I know this

Then why should anyone pay attention to you?

but Team O is very worried about losing Wisconsin – as worried as they are about Ohio.

BadgerHawk on October 29, 2012 at 6:35 PM

Oh, it’s another “pom-pom” post.
Why didn’t you say so?

chumpThreads on October 29, 2012 at 6:41 PM

As I said I’d love to find out why the drop was as big as it was, because the same thing hasn’t happened in NY or NJ.

Del Dolemonte on October 29, 2012 at 6:34 PM

You’re making the assumption that it is true. Just sayin’. I find it hard to believe that the drop is true when polls show the Senate race in MA so close.

Happy Nomad on October 29, 2012 at 6:41 PM

Whatever you all do don’t be surprised to wake up one day between now and election day to find out Mitt bombed Pearl Harbor.

Limerick on October 29, 2012 at 6:39 PM

Romney campaign should be playing Joe Jackson’s “Sunday Papers (Tell No Lie)”, 24×7.

riddick on October 29, 2012 at 6:42 PM

“Can’t really say how I know this, but Team O is very worried about losing Wisconsin – as worried as they are about Ohio.

BadgerHawk on October 29, 2012 at 6:35 PM”

Early voting has been really odd here. Mediocre enthusiasm for Romney and zero enthusiasm for Obama. Nothing like the constant stream of vans for early voting in 08 or for the recall election.

gumbyandpokey on October 29, 2012 at 6:43 PM

gumbyandpokey on October 29, 2012 at 6:43 PM

Look out folks, we got a badass here. He claims to have insider information! Super kewl!

wargamer6 on October 29, 2012 at 6:47 PM

Alex Marlow ‏@AlexMarlow

HELP!: TEAM OBAMA LEAKS ‘INTERNAL POLLS’ TO LEFT-WING POLITICO http://bit.ly/YfDQIl

Chuck Schick on October 29, 2012 at 6:48 PM

chumpThreads on October 29, 2012 at 6:41 PM

Long time readers here will know I’m not much of a ‘pom-pom’ guy.

But, based off something I learned this weekend, I’d bet money on some heavy poll movement towards Romney in Wisconsin this week. Take it for what you will.

BadgerHawk on October 29, 2012 at 6:49 PM

RuPoll lied about the crossovers. I posted the actual Pew results up the thread. Romney is losing only 6% of Republicans. McCain lost 9%.

Resist We Much

And Obama is losing 5%, so if 6% means Romney is losing quite a bit R’s as gumbo said, Obama is losing quite a bit of D’s too.

xblade on October 29, 2012 at 6:49 PM

Kirsten powers denying the inevitable

Conservative4ev on October 29, 2012 at 6:51 PM

I thought R was ahead by 10,000% among Indies?????

PappyD61

You think a lot of crazy things, so this sounds about right.

xblade on October 29, 2012 at 6:54 PM

BTW, Romney will be coming back to WI on Friday night.

gumbyandpokey on October 29, 2012 at 6:59 PM

wish we could get more early ballot totals from Ohio- everyone is reporting the dems are way off on their 2008 numbers

AirForceCane on October 29, 2012 at 7:03 PM

“Long time readers here will know I’m not much of a ‘pom-pom’ guy.

But, based off something I learned this weekend, I’d bet money on some heavy poll movement towards Romney in Wisconsin this week. Take it for what you will.

BadgerHawk on October 29, 2012 at 6:49 PM”

Well, the new Marquette University poll of Wisconsin comes out Wednesday, so we’ll see if you’re right.

gumbyandpokey on October 29, 2012 at 7:03 PM

gumbyandpokey on October 29, 2012

…you must be drained by now!

KOOLAID2 on October 29, 2012 at 7:03 PM

Kirsten powers denying the inevitable

Conservative4ev on October 29, 2012 at 6:51 PM

“It’s all in OFA’s ground-game.”

slickwillie2001 on October 29, 2012 at 7:04 PM

POLLS SAYING 1/3 IN OH HAVE VOTED ARE WRONG!

Only 17.4% have voted early in OH down from 29.7% in 2008. Polls saying it is 30% are LYING!

http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html

mitchellvii on October 29, 2012 at 7:04 PM

http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html

mitchellvii on October 29, 2012 at 7:04 PM

Mine goes to the mailbox here in Ohio tomorrow.

CW on October 29, 2012 at 7:05 PM

Kirsten powers denying the inevitable

Conservative4ev on October 29, 2012 at 6:51 PM

Hey! Leave Kirsten alone. She’s a rare Dem that actually tries to understand our point of view even though she may not agree with it.

I love Kirsten. Almost as much as I love Pat Caddell.

HiJack on October 29, 2012 at 7:07 PM

Whatever you all do don’t be surprised to wake up one day between now and election day to find out Mitt bombed Pearl Harbor.

Limerick on October 29, 2012 at 6:39 PM

I hear ya.

Can’t be any worse that sitting in that church for 20 years, palling around with terrorists, allowing 4 Americans to die, getting a border patrol agent killed, and trying to make us a socialist wasteland!

Apologies for all the stuff I left out!

LevinFan on October 29, 2012 at 7:11 PM

Hey! Leave Kirsten alone. She’s a rare Dem that actually tries to understand our point of view even though she may not agree with it.

I love Kirsten. Almost as much as I love Pat Caddell.

HiJack on October 29, 2012 at 7:07 PM

That mya be, but it does seem that she’s whistling past the graveyard on this one….

ghostwriter on October 29, 2012 at 7:17 PM

Pssssst … Hubby just came out of his office, where he watches the local news while filing his self-employed paperwork each day, to tell me that EARLY VOTING In South Dallas is waaay down.
Um, how shall I say this ?? … Those were BIGTIME Obamaphone voters, in 2008.
Coolness !

pambi on October 29, 2012 at 7:21 PM

FIRST!

Mofackys!

Bishop on October 29, 2012 at 7:26 PM

Bishop on October 29, 2012 at 7:26 PM

Ha!!! Last!

Bmore on October 29, 2012 at 7:36 PM

So much for Obama crushing in early voting…

http://www.gallup.com/poll/158420/registered-voters-already-cast-ballots.aspx

wargamer6 on October 29, 2012 at 7:37 PM

Anyone notice how haggard Obama looked during his conference at the White House? He looked really rough.

ShadowsPawn on October 29, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Anyone notice how haggard Obama looked during his conference at the White House? He looked really rough.

ShadowsPawn on October 29, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Did he take any questions? Anybody ask about Benghazi?

ghostwriter on October 29, 2012 at 7:39 PM

Early voting has been really odd here. Mediocre enthusiasm for Romney and zero enthusiasm for Obama. Nothing like the constant stream of vans for early voting in 08 or for the recall election.

gumbyandpokey on October 29, 2012 at 6:43 PM

LOOOOL whatev happened to the HiSTORIC Obysmal GOTV effort? :)… As for the ‘stream of vans’ that you don’t see, you should feel guilty, RuPuke….maybe you have singlehandedly caused the collapse of the whole local Obysmal GOTV effort, what with your constant presence here, at HA, instead of drivig those vans to victory lol :)…

jimver on October 29, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Ghostwriter, I watched it live, and IIRC, he took one question, but it was about storm prep, not Bengahzi.

pambi on October 29, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Did he take any questions? Anybody ask about Benghazi?

ghostwriter on October 29, 2012 at 7:39 PM

Such as: “Who gave the order to “stand down” on September 11?”

(Answer: “We’d better wait for the results of the internal investigation next Wednesday or so.”)

350+ EVs
7-10% Popular Vote Nationwide
President-elect Mitt Romney

spiritof61 on October 29, 2012 at 7:44 PM

pambi on October 29, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Thanks! It figures. He is such a BS artist, always running out ahead of the parade to pretend like he’s leading it, and never to be found when actual leadership is needed. I really don’t understand how the libs can stomach defending this creep.

ghostwriter on October 29, 2012 at 7:45 PM

Early voting has been really odd here. Mediocre enthusiasm for Romney and zero enthusiasm for Obama. Nothing like the constant stream of vans for early voting in 08 or for the recall election.

gumbyandpokey on October 29, 2012 at 6:43 PM

Watch for vans filled with Somali’s.

portlandon on October 29, 2012 at 7:45 PM

POLLS SAYING 1/3 IN OH HAVE VOTED ARE WRONG!

Only 17.4% have voted early in OH down from 29.7% in 2008. Polls saying it is 30% are LYING!

http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html

mitchellvii on October 29, 2012 at 7:04 PM

The Obammunists are putting their hopes on the polls where people claim to have already voted, but have not returned their actual ballots. Among the liars, Obama has a lead, which is hardly surprising.

In the actual numbers, the combined lower Democratic county totals added to the increased Republican counties’ numbers over 2008 are nearly enough to cancel Obama’s 260,000 vote margin from last time.

Adjoran on October 29, 2012 at 7:45 PM

It doesn’t take much to exincite you guys, does it?

gumbyandpokey on October 29, 2012 at 6:12 PM

Apparently not.

Lanceman on October 29, 2012 at 7:45 PM

350+ EVs
7-10% Popular Vote Nationwide
President-elect Mitt Romney

spiritof61 on October 29, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Sounds good to me!!

ghostwriter on October 29, 2012 at 7:46 PM

I’m here in Tampa. No Obama signs are to be found. No Obama GOTV efforts are to be seen. I haven’t seen my liberal friends all month–it’s like they’re hiding or something. There is no Dem ground game at all here; a few teachers meeting at a local Starbucks and rummaging through a basket of buttons. No enthusiasm for what they all tacitly realize is going to be a major defeat next Tuesday. They’ve more or less conceded Florida at this point and are at their final defense lines in the Midwest.

spiritof61 on October 29, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Bipartisan poll

Schadenfreude on October 29, 2012 at 7:55 PM

I was in Moscow west, Berkeley east a.k.a. Madison, Wisconsin, over the last 48 hours. In downtown and immediate concentric Madison, I saw no more than 6 (six) Obama-Biden yard signs and about an equivalent number of bumper stickers.

matthew8787 on October 29, 2012 at 7:56 PM

gumbyandpokey on October 29, 2012

…you must be drained by now!

KOOLAID2 on October 29, 2012 at 7:03 PM

He takes taurine intravenously….

jimver on October 29, 2012 at 7:57 PM

I just want this all to be over and a restraining order on Obama to keep him from within 500 miles of the White House. Oh, and a Republican super majority Congress would be really peachy too.

bobcalco on October 29, 2012 at 7:59 PM

ghostwriter on October 29, 2012 at 7:45 PM

Yups, and all he said was to repeat what local authorities had said .. OY.

pambi on October 29, 2012 at 8:01 PM

let’s pray it is not close and we can all wake up on the 7th with a new President!

AirForceCane on October 29, 2012 at 6:37 PM

Who’ll go to sleep if that’s the case?

I plan on partying like it’s 1999 if/when we win!!

Who is John Galt on October 29, 2012 at 8:01 PM

matthew8787 on October 29, 2012 at 7:56 PM

I find that hard to believe after having lived 24 years near the Peoples Republic of Madison, aka San Francisco East.

chewmeister on October 29, 2012 at 8:03 PM

I just want this all to be over and a restraining order on Obama to keep him from within 500 miles of the White House U.S. Oh, and a Republican super majority Congress would be really peachy too.

bobcalco on October 29, 2012 at 7:59 PM

Better.

chewmeister on October 29, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Who’ll go to sleep if that’s the case?

I plan on partying like it’s 1999 if/when we win!!

Who is John Galt on October 29, 2012 at 8:01 PM

If we can get an incumbent this bad out of office I’ll be partying like it’s 1980.

alchemist19 on October 29, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Anyone notice how haggard Obama looked during his conference at the White House? He looked really rough.

ShadowsPawn on October 29, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Yes I noticed it and so did the misses, she said it looked like he didn’t have time for the make-up artist because you could see all the dark spots all over his face that are not normally visable.

D-fusit on October 29, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Watch for vans filled with Somali’s.

portlandon on October 29, 2012 at 7:45 PM

We’ve got cars full of law-despising ‘bruthas’ playing profanity-laden ‘music’ at 120 decibals. Do those count?

MelonCollie on October 29, 2012 at 8:05 PM

In an earlier post on an earlier thread I opined that R&R would win more than 300 EC votes. Today I give them 337 and wonder if Oregon (taking R&R to 344) won’t fall too. I’m hopeful about Minnesota (wouldn’t that be sweet) but won’t hold my breath.

Robbin Hood on October 29, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Wait, so you’re telling me “Romnesia” is not a winning closing argument in the last two weeks of a presidential campaign?

I’m SHOCKED! SHOCKED! :)

Nicole Coulter on October 29, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Over the next few days watch as Romney’s margin magically begins to increase. This is the well known Sudden Polling Scrupulosity Syndrome: all the D+7s and D+5s used to boost the Democrats’ momentum begin to shift en masse as the pollsters scramble to correctly call the election and maintain their credibility. They don’t want to be seen as the partisan shills they actually are.

spiritof61 on October 29, 2012 at 8:07 PM

I was in Moscow west, Berkeley east a.k.a. Madison, Wisconsin, over the last 48 hours. In downtown and immediate concentric Madison, I saw no more than 6 (six) Obama-Biden yard signs and about an equivalent number of bumper stickers.

matthew8787 on October 29, 2012 at 7:56 PM

Here in Vegas no observed Hussein signs, a number of GOP signs at all levels for the most part.

riddick on October 29, 2012 at 8:10 PM

If we can get an incumbent this bad out of office I’ll be partying like it’s 1980.

alchemist19 on October 29, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Touche’

Who is John Galt on October 29, 2012 at 8:11 PM

In an earlier post on an earlier thread I opined that R&R would win more than 300 EC votes. Today I give them 337 and wonder if Oregon (taking R&R to 344) won’t fall too. I’m hopeful about Minnesota (wouldn’t that be sweet) but won’t hold my breath.

Robbin Hood on October 29, 2012 at 8:05 PM

That CO State Univ model predicted 330 for Romney, 2 months ago by now. Seems doable at this point.

riddick on October 29, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Del Dolemonte on October 29, 2012 at 6:34 PM

You’re making the assumption that it is true. Just sayin’. I find it hard to believe that the drop is true when polls show the Senate race in MA so close.

Happy Nomad on October 29, 2012 at 6:41 PM

The same new Boston Globe poll has Scott Brown winning by 2.

Del Dolemonte on October 29, 2012 at 8:13 PM

Robbin Hood on October 29, 2012 at 8:05 PM

That CO State Univ model predicted 330 for Romney, 2 months ago by now. Seems doable at this point.

riddick on October 29, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Bit over the top optimistic…. not that I wouldn’t like that :).

jimver on October 29, 2012 at 8:27 PM

Jay Cost ‏@JayCostTWS

…Not biased toward 1 party or another. A 1 point lead in Gallup LV predicts a 1.3% lead in Election Day.

Chuck Schick on October 29, 2012 at 8:30 PM

…GUMME…GUMME…GUMME

KOOLAID2 on October 29, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Don’t summon him.

portlandon on October 29, 2012 at 4:13 PM

Summoning Gumme reminds me of looking in the mirror and saying Bloody Mary three times.

GrannyDee on October 29, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Romney now is running like a man who knows he’s going to win. But he’s going about it like a man who wants a mandate. Obama, well Obama is acting like Obama. As Biden would say “In a word, unattractive loser”.

rik on October 29, 2012 at 8:39 PM

He takes taurine intravenously….

jimver on October 29, 2012 at 7:57 PM

…(I had to look that up!)

KOOLAID2 on October 29, 2012 at 8:41 PM

The glass is always half full; gotta be optimistic.

2Kings
4 The wife of a man from the company of the prophets cried out to Elisha, “Your servant my husband is dead, and you know that he revered the Lord. But now his creditor is coming to take my two boys as his slaves.”

2 Elisha replied to her, “How can I help you? Tell me, what do you have in your house?”

“Your servant has nothing there at all,” she said, “except a small jar of olive oil.”

3 Elisha said, “Go around and ask all your neighbors for empty jars. Don’t ask for just a few. 4 Then go inside and shut the door behind you and your sons. Pour oil into all the jars, and as each is filled, put it to one side.”

5 She left him and shut the door behind her and her sons. They brought the jars to her and she kept pouring. 6 When all the jars were full, she said to her son, “Bring me another one.”

But he replied, “There is not a jar left.” Then the oil stopped flowing.

7 She went and told the man of God, and he said, “Go, sell the oil and pay your debts. You and your sons can live on what is left.”

Robbin Hood on October 29, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Out and about in the Near North area of downtown Chicago and have only seen a couple of Obama bumper stickers and those were hard to identify because they were just the logo. No Romney bumper stickers, of course. Not much enthusiasm here — the state’s in the bag for Obama and there are no state-wide offices being contested.

polarglen on October 29, 2012 at 8:51 PM

I plan on partying like it’s 1999 if/when we win!!

Who is John Galt on October 29, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Stocked up on fireworks?

slickwillie2001 on October 29, 2012 at 8:59 PM

Gumby….Oprah just called…she said just like last time, she’s crying again for this election…but…she’s losing her a$$ on her new network…she said she can’t afford Obamacare….she’s voting for Romney..and she also said…go away….just sayin…

LaRepublican on October 29, 2012 at 9:13 PM

portlandon on October 29, 2012 at 4:13 PM
Summoning Gumme reminds me of looking in the mirror and saying Bloody Mary three times.

GrannyDee on October 29, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Or saying Beetle Juice three times.

hawkdriver on October 29, 2012 at 9:13 PM

OT: A friend of mine just created a website with a poll saying “Who is going to win the 2012 Presidential Election??” Please show her what’s up! http://www.election2012.monikakunat.com/

Jcsurfshop on October 29, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Hey! Leave Kirsten alone. She’s a rare Dem that actually tries to understand our point of view even though she may not agree with it.

I love Kirsten. Almost as much as I love Pat Caddell.

HiJack on October 29, 2012 at 7:07 PM

She still needs a bit of a spanking….

Tenwheeler on October 29, 2012 at 9:38 PM

Rasmussen also had problems in his 2010 Senate race polls, most notably Angle vs Reid.

gumbyandpokey on October 29, 2012 at 6:24 PM

Mormons vote for Mormons…

Romney will win Nevada handily for this very reason imho…

MGardner on October 29, 2012 at 9:41 PM

Minnesota has 28% Catholics…

I have never seen the Church push one candidate in my life as much as the have pushed Romney, ever…

They usually stay out of politics, not this year…

All bc of HHS mandate against Catholic institutions…

I would not be surprised to see Minnesota go red…

MGardner on October 29, 2012 at 9:46 PM

MGardner – same here, actual voting guides in the pews telling parishoners that voting vor a pro-abort candidate is a mortal sin. Tough to tick off an netire faith – but Obama is bringig people together – people that want to make him go away.

Zomcon JEM on October 29, 2012 at 9:54 PM

LOL the Clinton event is at the U tomorrow in a very small space.

They must not be expecting more than 2-300 people tops.

gophergirl on October 29, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Ya’ll need to give Gumby a break please!

He’s had to pick up a van load of Somalia’s on his way to store the fake Greek columns and get them to the polls…

And run down some translators so they would know how to vote….

And then be able to come back here to HA and convince us all we should be voting for the Messiah….

now that’s a hard job!

LaRepublican on October 29, 2012 at 10:32 PM

Mormons vote for Mormons…

Romney will win Nevada handily for this very reason imho…

MGardner on October 29, 2012 at 9:41 PM

This is nonsensical in the context of the current race.

There are plenty of Mormons who will almost certainly vote for Obama, just as they did in 2008.
Some of them are black; some are not.
Some of them are about as “Mormon” as Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi are “Catholic”.

Mormons, just like everyone else, vote according to their personal world-views and circumstances.

It happens, in this race, that Governor Romney would trump Barack Obama whether he was a Mormon or not, and many Mormons will vote for him because of his policies and character, just as will many Baptists, Methodists, Catholics, Evangelicals, Jews, and others.

Unitarian Universalists, maybe not so much.
(That’s from speaking with the ones I know personally).

Mormons are encouraged to vote for honourable men and women who support gospel values, but sometimes they don’t get the information they need to make that judgement, because they depend on the MSM just like most of the electorate.

AesopFan on October 29, 2012 at 10:40 PM

I’m not holding my breath here in MN. It’s like waiting to watch the Vikings win a Super bowl, so close so many times, and no cigar. But I will sat this as others have said. There are certain liberal areas of Minneapolis and St.Paul. (well o.k. most of it is) I have seen very very few Obama signs this time. So at the very least enthusiam for Owebama is low here. I’ve noticed quite a few R&R signs. It’s a fickle state that has rebelled once and a while and seems to have a Cybil complex politically. But If Wisconsin can flip, so can we. We’re similar in may ways besides geographically. What it does tell me is that if it’s even close here, Owebama is in trouble all over, so I take some solace in that.

Minnfidel on October 30, 2012 at 1:39 AM

LOL the Clinton event is at the U tomorrow in a very small space.

They must not be expecting more than 2-300 people tops.

gophergirl on October 29, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Wow, it is kind of like a once famous rock band, now playing at Grand Casino Hinckley! LOL, Poor Bill. All that’s left are a few aging hippies at the U to give him. Well, nevermind.

Minnfidel on October 30, 2012 at 1:42 AM

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