Fox: FBI, NCTC showed al-Qaeda connection to Benghazi attack 2 days afterward

posted at 9:21 am on October 29, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

John McCain asked yesterday on CBS’ Face the Nation, “What did the president know? When did he know it? And what did he do about it?”  Fox News has more on the first two questions this morning.  According to their sources, the FBI and the National Counterterrorism Center briefed lawmakers two days after the attack on al-Qaeda’s connections to the Benghazi attack, one day before the CIA director showed up on Capitol Hill to tell a completely different story:

Two days after the Libya terror attack, representatives of the FBI and National Counterterrorism Center gave Capitol Hill briefings in which they said the evidence supported an Al Qaeda or Al Qaeda-affiliated attack, Fox News has learned.

The description of the attack by those in the Sept. 13 briefings stands in stark contrast to the now controversial briefing on Capitol Hill by CIA Director David Petraeus the following day — and raises even more questions about why Petraeus described the attack as tied to a demonstration. …

FBI and NCTC also briefed that there were a series of Al Qaeda training camps just outside of Benghazi, where the attack occurred and resulted in the deaths of four Americans. The area was described as a hotbed for the militant Ansar al-Sharia as well as Al Qaeda in North Africa.

Fox News is told there was no mention of a demonstration or any significant emphasis on the anti-Islam video that for days was cited by administration officials as a motivating factor.

Petraeus has been the quiet man in all of this, and this could be the reason why.  According to Fox’s report, Petraeus left very little room for equivocation in his briefing.  According to their sources, Petraeus dismissed the significance of the use of a mortar position in the attack and insisted that the event started as a spontaneous demonstration that got out of control when radicals took advantage of the confusion.

But there’s another problem in this report for the White House.  Since having to back away from Susan Rice’s attempt to sell the same story to the media five days after the attack on five different Sunday talk shows, they have insisted that the Obama administration shared the assessments it received from the intel community as they received them.  Did anyone ever share the FBI and NCTC assessments in the 13th that al-Qaeda was linked to the attack?  Not to my recollection.


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What chumpThreads is doing is called filibustering.

He is a waste of time and a distraction.

Force he/she to take a position and defend it with facts.

If he/she had good arguements he/she/? would use them, all he/she/it has is misdirection and name calling.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on October 29, 2012 at 12:45 PM

And on Nov. 7, after the President is re-elected, rightists will forget there’s even a place called Benghazi.

chumpThreads on October 29, 2012 at 10:46 AM

No, you insignificant little turd. Unlike you and the rest of the leftist anti-Americans, we want to know why our men died. We want to know, too, why SCOAMF d’ohbama denied their requests for help (which was available); and watched them fight to their deaths on television — until he got tired/bored and went to bed.
You leftists really are trash.

Solaratov on October 29, 2012 at 12:46 PM

chumpThreads on October 29, 2012 at 12:39 PM

For me, it is a reasonable argument for finding out what we can now. As I have said, I can’t believe that Obama watched this fiasco unfold but it was a fiasco nonetheless. At the very least it adds to his appearance of incompetence, I think the voters have the right to know before they pull the lever. If more information will help Obama justify the actions of his administration, I suggest that he jump on the information bandwagon rather than stonewalling. He, alone, holds the cards of less speculation and more facts.

Cindy Munford on October 29, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Go ye and do productive things that will get out the vote to get Obama back to the courpt Democrat ruled island where his birth cert. came from.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on October 29, 2012 at 12:49 PM

And on Nov. 7, after the President is re-elected, rightists will forget there’s even a place called Benghazi.

chumpThreads on October 29, 2012 at 10:46 AM

Hmm. So you are comparing “rightists” to Anti-War protesters,
AKA Cindy Sheehan, who magically disappeared when this man
took office??

Good luck wih that thinking…..(or lack of thinking)

ToddPA on October 29, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Likely outcome: Republicans take back the Senate next week, and not much happens until the new Congress is seated. If it comes up in the lame-duck Congress, the request for a Special Prosecutor will be blocked by the democratics.

In the period between the new Congress being seated and the inauguration, a Special Prosecutor will be assigned to investigate. This will give Romney some separation between his new administration and the investigation so it will not bog him down.

slickwillie2001 on October 29, 2012 at 12:52 PM

And on Nov. 7, after the President is re-elected, rightists will forget there’s even a place called Benghazi.

chumpThreads on October 29, 2012 at 10:46 AM

IF Obama is re-elected, then Benghazi will break into a huge scandal, in spite of the networks trying to bury the story.

The only way it doesn’t become a huge scandal is if turns out the blame falls entirely on people in the Obama administration who are gone (or on their way out the door) after Obama loses his re-election bid.

And even then, I’m not so sure. If Obama’s gone, then also gone is the need to circle the wagons and try to save the election.

tom on October 29, 2012 at 12:52 PM

chumpThread,

Do you have information on what the % of say, a large concrete contract deal, on Obama’s island, due and payable to the “protection cartel” there is?

APACHEWHOKNOWS on October 29, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Here it is again: “What is Obama’s job description, anyway – to serve the US, or for the US to serve him?

Spare me the rhetorical questions, ok?

When do you believe the facts about Benghazi should come out – when Obama wants them to only? If you don’t believe the timeline should be determined by him alone, by whom do you believe it should be determined?”

I believe the facts should come out when they are fully established. And no, this issue is NOT going to be resolved before next Tuesday. Period.

The Administration should determine the timeline as opposed to, say, Darrell Issa who compromised Libyan allies in his haste to score political points. Do I need to mention Mitt’s take on the situation within a day of the attack?

I want to add another question to that: how important is it you to have an informed electorate, one that doesn’t have to suffer through dealing with an administration which is resisting giving out information about its inner workings because it’s worried about how that information may damage its public image & popularity?

That question isn’t quite leading enough. Could you crank up the bias a little more?

The American electorate can be as informed as it wants to be, and as non-informed as it likes. Please don’t even try to frame this as vigilant, Republicans looking out for the interests of the people. They are looking to score points.

Anti-Control on October 29, 2012 at 12:40 PM

chumpThreads on October 29, 2012 at 12:53 PM

. A full investigation will happen, but that is probably weeks, if not months away.

chumpThreads on October 29, 2012 at 11:27 AM

I only pray that President Romney does not let this go for bipartisan harmony. Obutthead WILL be exposed as the traitorous scumbag that he is. He deserves no less than a long prison sentence.

BTW, don’t feel bad when your boy takes a dump on chump. You’ll probably feel warm all over Mr Threads.

NOMOBO on October 29, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Jugears thought he was watching a video game and we all know those are not real.

retiredeagle on October 29, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Do you have information on what the % of say, a large concrete contract deal, on Obama’s island, due and payable to the “protection cartel” there is?

APACHEWHOKNOWS on October 29, 2012 at 12:53 PM

No, I don’t.

chumpThreads on October 29, 2012 at 12:54 PM

slickwillie2001 on October 29, 2012 at 12:52 PM

I don’t even want to think of what these people will do if they lose and before the next inauguration.

Cindy Munford on October 29, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Cindy, you’re way too nice. The man is a snivelling coward and a weasel. He has no defense–either he gave the order to stand down or failed to override it, or he got bored watching the drone feed and went to bed. Those are the only believable alternatives. Either represents a dereliction of duty unprecedented in the history of the U.S. presidency.

Right now he’s relying on Romney’s reluctance to attack and the flying monkeys of the liberal media to keep the stone wall up for another week. He gains nothing by “coming clean,” because he would lose millions of votes by an admission of gross incompetence and bad judgment as the campaign reaches its climax.

spiritof61 on October 29, 2012 at 12:57 PM

spiritof61 on October 29, 2012 at 12:57 PM

I think Obama can withstand a lot when it comes to this situation (regrettably) but I don’t think he can survive any indication that he watched and did nothing. But if it is true, I think the public has the right to know. He has only himself to blame for the belief since he released the bin Laden picture, he can squash this rumor pretty quick if he wanted to.

Cindy Munford on October 29, 2012 at 1:05 PM

What has come to light recently is that Twitter has blocked hashtags relating ot the Benghazi Coverup. It was discovered that the viral #BenghaziGate tag was being blocked from Trend determination as was #Benghazi. Conservatives early this morning shifted to the #7HoursInHell tag to help spread the word that the MSM is hiding… soon enough that hashtag was blocked as well.

To beat them at their own game, conservatives are taking the conversation to the #Forward2012 tag normally used by the Obama campaign. They cannot block that one AND they cannot prevent the ObamaZombies from seeing the discussion either.

J_Crater on October 29, 2012 at 1:09 PM

It is pretty obvious that at least one of the following is true.

1) Obama knows what happened — at least enough to know it that if it comes out it will hurt his election chances very badly. He is sandbagging and has lied his ass off to cover up inconvenient facts about the spontaneous protest terrorist attack until after the election. He instructed Carney and Rice to say what they said publicly in the days after the spontaneous protest terrorist attack.

2) Obama is completely incompetent. He viewed the situation in Libya before the spontaneous protest terrorist attack through rose colored glasses, adopting policies that led to both the spontaneous protest terrorist attack and its tragic consequences. He was derelict in his duty on the anniversary of 9/11. He was afraid to act during the spontaneous protest terrorist attack and basically voted “present”, issuing ambiguous orders about helping the Americans under spontaneous protest terrorist attack.

3) Obama was disinterested before and detached during the spontaneous protest terrorist attack. He really didn’t think it was that a big of a deal until a week or two afterwards when FOXnews’ reporting gained some traction. Though “tragic”, he still doesn’t think it’s really that big a deal. It could happen any time to any President and any ambassador in any consulate/embassy.

These are not mutually exclusive. I think all three are true, as illustrated by my spontaneous protest edits.

farsighted on October 29, 2012 at 11:15 AM

IT WAS NOT A TERRORIST ATTACK!!!

It was a kinetic movie review.

I can see you’re gonna need a lot of re-educatin’.

/sarc

tom on October 29, 2012 at 1:16 PM

bayam on October 29, 2012 at 10:14 AM

That’s all fine and dandy (and your remarks are completely hypocritical) – but Bush never stood and watched on television as Americans fought to their deaths; and not only did nothing – but denied them assistance which could have saved them.

Solaratov on October 29, 2012 at 1:16 PM

It was a kinetic movie review.

I can see you’re gonna need a lot of re-educatin’.

/sarc

tom on October 29, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Kinetic movie review. I like that.

Cindy Munford on October 29, 2012 at 1:20 PM

And it also looks like it’s possible that Gen. Ham may have potentially been the one who may have tried to do the right thing during the attack…and he’s the only one that’s been replaced.

lynncgb on October 29, 2012 at 10:28 AM

It’s going to be interesting to hear his testimony before a congressional committee.

Assuming he doesn’t have a “terrible accident” before that can happen.

Solaratov on October 29, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Spare me the rhetorical questions, ok?

I haven’t been rude to you. Why did you feel the urge to get defensive, testy, and bossy with me in such a passive-aggressive manner? It makes you seem small and insecure.

I believe the facts should come out when they are fully established. And no, this issue is NOT going to be resolved before next Tuesday. Period.

The Administration should determine the timeline as opposed to, say, Darrell Issa who compromised Libyan allies in his haste to score political points. Do I need to mention Mitt’s take on the situation within a day of the attack?

That question isn’t quite leading enough. Could you crank up the bias a little more?

The American electorate can be as informed as it wants to be, and as non-informed as it likes. Please don’t even try to frame this as vigilant, Republicans looking out for the interests of the people. They are looking to score points.

chumpThreads on October 29, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Ok, now I have you on record: 1) expressing that you believe Obama’s administration should be the decider on when it releases information to public, w/no authoritative Congressional oversight, meaning you don’t believe in the law as it is written or in co-equal branches of government; 2) veering into snark, which shows that you are not a serious conversationalist who values the truth more than your personal feelings; 3) passive-aggressively dictating how you want the conversation to go, which reveals an authoritarian streak you are ashamed of on some level; 4) showing that you care more about perceived political gaming by Republicans than you do by any Obama’s administration might be engaged in, which proves that you are partisan political hack.

I predict that you will not be able to address what I just said here on a factual level, but rather a personal one, and, if that is the case, you’d be better off blowing it off like you first did my last one to you! :)

Anti-Control on October 29, 2012 at 1:20 PM

What has come to light recently is that Twitter has blocked hashtags relating ot the Benghazi Coverup. It was discovered that the viral #BenghaziGate tag was being blocked from Trend determination as was #Benghazi. Conservatives early this morning shifted to the #7HoursInHell tag to help spread the word that the MSM is hiding… soon enough that hashtag was blocked as well.

To beat them at their own game, conservatives are taking the conversation to the #Forward2012 tag normally used by the Obama campaign. They cannot block that one AND they cannot prevent the ObamaZombies from seeing the discussion either.

J_Crater on October 29, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Benghazi is trending on Face Book as well…Americans are talking about it even if the drivebye’s aren’t.

Just one of many groups on fb (over 76,000 followers)
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/100-Percent-FED-Up/311190048935167

workingclass artist on October 29, 2012 at 1:22 PM

What has come to light recently is that Twitter has blocked hashtags relating ot the Benghazi Coverup. It was discovered that the viral #BenghaziGate tag was being blocked from Trend determination as was #Benghazi. Conservatives early this morning shifted to the #7HoursInHell tag to help spread the word that the MSM is hiding… soon enough that hashtag was blocked as well.

To beat them at their own game, conservatives are taking the conversation to the #Forward2012 tag normally used by the Obama campaign. They cannot block that one AND they cannot prevent the ObamaZombies from seeing the discussion either.

J_Crater on October 29, 2012 at 1:09 PM

The censorship by Twitter is stunning, and the solution to get around it is FANTASTIC!

Anti-Control on October 29, 2012 at 1:31 PM

To beat them at their own game, conservatives are taking the conversation to the #Forward2012 tag normally used by the Obama campaign. They cannot block that one AND they cannot prevent the ObamaZombies from seeing the discussion either.

J_Crater on October 29, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Have you seen this? This post crashed because of Instapundit linked to it. This is the repost.

http://soopermexican.tumblr.com/post/34521501120/this-is-a-repost-from-my-website-being-crashed-by

How Conservatives on Twitter Forced Obama to Face the Benghazi Debacle

Kyle Clark of Channel 9 News was able to secure an interview with President Obama, and to his great credit, opened up to twitter for suggestions on what questions he should ask:

The writer then goes through how conservatives started spreading this around and tweeting to Clark to ask about Benghazi.

. . . a local reporter taking question suggestions from twitter forced Obama to face a real question about Benghazi.

Clark clarified that his questioning to Obama had to do precisely with any denials of security during the attack – not before:

@copeakpolitics To clarify, our question was whether requests DURING the attack were denied. Full writeup/video coming

— Kyle Clark (@KyleClark) October 26, 2012

After 9 News in Denver posted a transcript of the interview and a video, the headlines shouted out the inability of a feckless president to admit any responsibility:

INC on October 29, 2012 at 1:33 PM

chumpThreads on October 29, 2012 at 11:00 AM

You’re an idiot.

Don’t you feel really stupid, repeating what your masters spoon-feed you to say?
Nobody cares about “hurting lil barry – the SCOAMF – we just want him gone.
But it seems that now, he has crossed the line from inept to evil. He is responsible for the deaths of Americans – in pursuit of political ends. And most likely of trafficking with the enemy. And, if that turns out to be true – and it’s looking more likely all the time – he deserves to spend the rest of his life at SuperMax; along with his hired help.

Solaratov on October 29, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Cindy Munford on October 29, 2012 at 11:04 AM

What? The Democrats forgot all about Watergate after the election? Are you kidding?

You really need to go back to your passive/aggressive schtick, Munford. When you try to engage in actual argument, you just look silly.

chumpThreads on October 29, 2012 at 11:19 AM

You’re not too quick on the uptake, are you chimp?

You’re an idiot.

Solaratov on October 29, 2012 at 1:39 PM

Anti-Control on October 29, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Very nicely done.

a capella on October 29, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Anti-Control on October 29, 2012 at 1:20 PM

I took the time to answer your questions, pausing to call you out on your BS when necessary.

If you don’t want my answers, don’t ask me questions.

chumpThreads on October 29, 2012 at 1:54 PM

When you get over calling me an idiot, I might decide to respond to your comments.

chumpThreads on October 29, 2012 at 12:11 PM

But you see, you are an idiot.

And a lickspittle.

Solaratov on October 29, 2012 at 1:54 PM

I took the time to answer your questions, pausing to call you out on your BS when necessary.

If you don’t want my answers, don’t ask me questions.

chumpThreads on October 29, 2012 at 1:54 PM

I guess you have forgotten that I initially said this to you?

Don’t bother replying unless you are willing to give straight, non-sarcastic answers to those question.

Anti-Control on October 29, 2012 at 11:13 AM

Since you have proven that you are incapable of abiding by my reasonable and respectable conditions, and are unable to interact with me like a mature, honorable human being, I say to you that you are dismissed, you ill-mannered, passive-aggressive, lying partisan loser.

Anti-Control on October 29, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Clear it is the ones of terror always use women and children as cover.

Any way to tell if there is a hospital, school, any large mosque near by the ones of terror had the heavy stuff set up that Woods was pointing?

APACHEWHOKNOWS on October 29, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Very nicely done.

a capella on October 29, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Thanks.

I know that lying liars who are fond of lying, like Odumba and chumpThreads, always end up slipping up to reveal their inner ugliness when their surfaces are scratched, no matter how hard they may try to cover for themselves!

Anti-Control on October 29, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Anti-Control on October 29, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Wow, you sliced and diced to perfection, if you make Juienne fries you are perfect!

Cindy Munford on October 29, 2012 at 2:25 PM

Do I need to mention Mitt’s take on the situation within a day of the attack?

chumpThreads on October 29, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Yeah, chump. Mention that Romney chastised d’ohbama and the DoS for condemning American First Amendment rights and for apologizing to islamists for Americans exercising those rights.
THAT is what you anti-Americans made such a noise about.

Mention it, you idiot.

Solaratov on October 29, 2012 at 2:42 PM

So when should we expect Panetta, Patraeus, and Dempsey’s resignations?

Sgt_H on October 29, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Wow, you sliced and diced to perfection, if you make Juienne fries you are perfect!

Cindy Munford on October 29, 2012 at 2:25 PM

I confess that I do not make them, but I am very open to learning how. Does that count for something?

Hey, where did chumpThreads go, anyway?

Anti-Control on October 29, 2012 at 9:29 PM

Anti-Control on October 29, 2012 at 9:29 PM

Somewhere where he doesn’t have to compete against your logic.

Cindy Munford on October 29, 2012 at 11:43 PM

Cindy Munford on October 29, 2012 at 11:43 PM

It’s weird to me in one way when I see people like chumpThreads, who don’t understand that “honesty is the best policy”.

No one likes to be wrong, but we all are at some point, and fighting against that only leads to prolonged unhappiness and embarrassment – it’s so much easier to just say, “I’m wrong”, isn’t it? And, when we do, we get the added bonus of having others genuinely like us!

Anti-Control on October 30, 2012 at 5:15 AM

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