Romney reaps benefits of Obama backlash in coal counties

posted at 3:31 pm on October 28, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

So that war on women thing didn’t work out very well. Let’s see how the President is doing with the war on coal.

Mitt Romney’s battle for Ohio may come down to President Obama’s “War on Coal.”

Romney has gained on Obama in the crucial state. Before the Oct. 3 presidential debate, the RealClearPolitics average had Obama up 5.5 points in Ohio. It’s now down to 2.1 points, with the most recent survey showing a tie…

Romney’s ace in the hole might be the 18 counties in Ohio that still produce coal. Obama’s Environmental Protection Agency regulations targeting coal are not popular in those areas.

Thousands of signs in southeast Ohio read, “Stop The War On Coal. Fire Obama,”according to Mark Weaver, a GOP strategist and part of Romney’s legal team in the state.

The 18 coal counties gave Obama a margin of about 41,000 votes in 2008. If Romney could produce a five-point swing, he would win the region by roughly 10,000 votes.

We regularly hear pundits talking about how it’s not even “swing states” anymore, but really swing counties. That’s how much of a science political campaigning has become. So it’s no accident that Romney would be pushing hard in these 18 counties while Obama tries to focus on the ones where there is more employment based in the auto industry. (Based on his continuing hope that people will blame Romney for the auto industry’s ills.)

According to the same survey cited in the linked article, another big factor which is lifting Romney’s prospects in these counties is a decided downturn in enthusiasm from younger voters, 18-29. These younger voters played a significant role in the counties in question during Obama’s 2008 victory, but it’s hard to remain too enthusiastic when you can’t find a job to start off your adult life. Coal is a big job provider in the area, and Obama’s EPA policies have already led to layoffs in that industry, rather than job growth.

So… no war on women. No war on coal. There’s still a week left, though. Maybe the President can kick off a quick War on Hurricanes by tomorrow.


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“The UAW is alive and the UMW is dead!” – Barack Obama

Resist We Much on October 28, 2012 at 3:34 PM

I hope to goodness that R&R gets votes from all involved with coal/gas/shale/oil states voters. Mitt has GOT to deal STAT with the epa when elected to stop their krap or it will mean nothing?

Thanks to all in states bho/team are trying to keep you without jobs with his policies for your vote R&R!
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letget on October 28, 2012 at 3:36 PM

Don’t overlook that fact that the United Mine Workers union is overwhelmingly white.

BobMbx on October 28, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Coal will hand OH to Romney, as it should.

Obama lied through his teeth about coal (and all other) during the debates.

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Jim Heath ‏@JimHeath10TV

“Internals show us ahead. I honestly think Romney will carry Ohio and you know I haven’t been saying this.” -Gov John Kasich

Resist We Much on October 28, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Don’t overlook that fact that the United Mine Workers union is overwhelmingly white.

BobMbx on October 28, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Obama hates coal. Is he a racist?

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2012 at 3:40 PM

In the War on Coal, it looks like Coal is winning?

ted c on October 28, 2012 at 3:46 PM

They ought to play Joey Biden’s statement to one of their supporters “No coal! No coal!”

GarandFan on October 28, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Coal is the new Bacon.

SparkPlug on October 28, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Did Obama get control of the Hurricane machine when he took office? Or does Bush still have it?

Grunt on October 28, 2012 at 3:51 PM

America’s energy independence, thus her sovereign destiny, all hinges on the anti-American being removed from office.

I thought during the summer (and placed a one [$1] dollar bet on it) that Gov. Romney & Rep. Ryan would win 40 states & by 10 ten points; I guess I undersold myself.

If the “Gopher State” [The Land of 10,000 Lakes] is in play, then could we not have clean sweep that 1984 didn’t produce?

Just sayin’…………………

GreatCommunicator on October 28, 2012 at 3:54 PM

Where did the Drudge story go where democrats were bussing in Somalians that weren’t citizens to EARLY vote in Columbus OH Friday?

justonevictory on October 28, 2012 at 3:55 PM

“War on Cheating” should be the next headline

justonevictory on October 28, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Don’t overlook that fact that the United Mine Workers union is overwhelmingly white.

BobMbx on October 28, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Went to their website today and they still haven’t endorsed anyone yet.

BallisticBob on October 28, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Don’t overlook that fact that the United Mine Workers union is overwhelmingly white.

BobMbx on October 28, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Democratics have long used the greedy unions to keep blacks out of the choice jobs.

slickwillie2001 on October 28, 2012 at 4:01 PM

In the War on Coal, it looks like Coal is winning?

ted c on October 28, 2012 at 3:46 PM

…Coal will be JugEars funeral pyre!

KOOLAID2 on October 28, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Maybe the President can kick off a quick War on Hurricanes by tomorrow.

Didn’t he already, by whining about global warming not coming up in the debates?

Hurricanes are man made don’t cha’ know…

Hog Wild on October 28, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Don’t overlook that fact that the United Mine Workers union is overwhelmingly white.

BobMbx on October 28, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Went to their website today and they still haven’t endorsed anyone yet.

BallisticBob on October 28, 2012 at 4:00 PM

I don’t think the ethnicity of the UMW’s membership comes into play here. I think the current president’s detriment to their jobs does.

If the UMW hasn’t endorsed at this late date, its pretty evident they won’t.

tgharris on October 28, 2012 at 4:06 PM

Ohio: Romney needs to win there!! MAKE IT SO!!

Khun Joe on October 28, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Maybe the President can kick off a quick War on Hurricanes by tomorrow.

Hurricanes are racist.

Tim_CA on October 28, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Maybe the President can kick off a quick War on Hurricanes by tomorrow.

Hurricanes are neo-cons.

Tim_CA on October 28, 2012 at 4:09 PM

I am here in Cuyahoga County OH where Romnesia has not set in…lots of momentum for Romney!

justonevictory on October 28, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Maybe the President can kick off a quick War on Hurricanes by tomorrow.

Hurricanes hate your lady-parts.

Tim_CA on October 28, 2012 at 4:10 PM

There is but one war that Obama is really concerned about and that is the War ON America.

jukin3 on October 28, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Counties, states, whatever. The destruction of the Ohio economy was only slowed by Kasich’s efforts! The amount of businesses destroyed by Obama & his EPA and their “War on Coal”, is criminal! If Ohio votes Obama back in, then they deserve to lose their livelihoods! The pettiness it takes, to want socialism for your fellow man, makes you deserving of all negative things that befall you! For all you “PETTY POS’s” who wish ill on your fellow man, because they make more money than you, your not only UN-Christian, you’re a Hateful POS, who deserves the worst that could come your way!
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God Bless America!

paratisi on October 28, 2012 at 4:14 PM

I’ve seen those billboards all over Ohio. There is a big one just as you enter the state from PA. Lots of people go by it every day. Another thing would be to emphasize the affect on their electric bill if they don’t live in a coal county. And don’t forget that PA has alot of mining operations too.

As for auto plants, that’s a mixed bag. There have been added jobs but they are off-set somewhat by palnt closings. So it will depend where you live. Trumbull county will go Dem again because the Lordstown plant added lots of jobs. But there was a big plant closing in Mansfield so that county and the ones nearby won’t be too fond of Obama. What’s ironic is that two new plants opened there…Hyundai and Honda. Don’t think those people see the bailouts as a good thing.

Deanna on October 28, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Obama hates coal. Is he a racist?

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2012 at 3:40 PM

Heh. I thought that was really funny. :)

jwolf on October 28, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Coinky dink?…..

Two states experiencing economic BOOMS are…….North Dakota and Oiho.

Both going Fracking crazy.

Duh…….The path FORWARD!!!!

PappyD61 on October 28, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Obama loves Clean Coal! ™ /s

trs on October 28, 2012 at 4:19 PM

Hopefully the coal issue will push even more Pennsylvanians to vote Romney too! The sign I saw this week: “Democrat Economic AssASSins!” was in Eastern PA, and a friend reported lots of Anti-Obama signs in western PA citing his coal policies.

mathgal60 on October 28, 2012 at 4:19 PM

Maybe the President can kick off a quick War on Hurricanes by tomorrow.

Hurricanes hate your lady-parts.

Tim_CA on October 28, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Who did Karl Rove leave the password to the hurricane-steering machine with when he left the White House?

slickwillie2001 on October 28, 2012 at 4:24 PM

Those signs are an hundreds of lawns in SE Ohio. I’m in Akron, a democrat bastion, and I can’t see how Obama wins. Especially now that the preference cascade has begun nationaly.

AcidReflux on October 28, 2012 at 4:24 PM

Next to virtually all of the homemade Obama signs in my town here in western PA, someone has put up formal printed signs with big, bold lettering which read “WAR ON COAL = OBAMA.” There’s also another version that reads “16 TRILLION = OBAMA.”

Both these signs are elsewhere along the highways as well, but it was a hoot to see them appear next to the Obama signs almost immediately after they were put up.

PatriotGal2257 on October 28, 2012 at 4:24 PM

Ohio is a depressed state beyond…empty buildings everywhere. Toledo is severe, Youngstown forget it. Foreclosures and boarded up houses are rampant. Just look on ebay under real estate and type in Ohio in the search box and see for yourself. How anyone here in Ohio could vote this disaster back in is frightening.This is NOT what America looks like!

justonevictory on October 28, 2012 at 4:25 PM

slickwillie2001 on October 28, 2012 at 4:24 PM

Hurricane steering machine?

That’s funny.

SparkPlug on October 28, 2012 at 4:31 PM

justonevictory on October 28, 2012 at 4:25 PM

Posted this here last week in case you haven’t already seen it: Why Obama’s losing Ohio Democrats

PatriotGal2257 on October 28, 2012 at 4:34 PM

Obama loves Clean Coal! ™ /s

trs on October 28, 2012 at 4:19 PM

Obama loves clean coal so much that he has committed the last four years ensuring that coal isn’t wrenched away from its family to be burned in some dirty activity like providing electricity. Given a second term, he will follow through by declaring coal an endangered deposit and setting up coal preservations in the area formerly known as coal country (which of course is now a carbonist term). Bad children will no longer be left coal by Santa but, rather, peas.

Happy Nomad on October 28, 2012 at 4:34 PM

I’ve seen those billboards all over Ohio. There is a big one just as you enter the state from PA. Lots of people go by it every day. Another thing would be to emphasize the affect on their electric bill if they don’t live in a coal county. And don’t forget that PA has alot of mining operations too.

There have been pro-coal billboards along the PA turnpike for years. Today I saw one on 95 going into Philadelphia. They don’t all put the “Fire Obama!” part in and they should.

talkingpoints on October 28, 2012 at 4:35 PM

Who did Karl Rove leave the password to the hurricane-steering machine with when he left the White House?

slickwillie2001 on October 28, 2012 at 4:24 PM

What makes you think he gave it to anybody? Rove could well be out there aiming the storm at NJ and NY to keep Democrat votes down!

Happy Nomad on October 28, 2012 at 4:37 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/10/27/marco-rubios-daughter-in-car-accident-in-miami/

“Senator and Mrs. Rubio are grateful for all the outpouring of support and prayers,” he added, including calls from President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden and a personal message from Romney……”

Mmmmmm, explain to me how President Obama and Joe Biden can know within a very short period of time what is going on with the Junior Senator from Floridas’ daughter but….

……….they DON’T HAVE A CLUE what happened in Benghazi?

PappyD61 on October 28, 2012 at 4:38 PM

Obama hates coal. Is he a racist?

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2012 at 3:40 PM

But isn’t coal black? Oh, I forgot. He treats blacks with the same disrespect he treats coal

NOMOBO on October 28, 2012 at 4:39 PM

How anyone here in Ohio could vote this disaster back in is frightening.This is NOT what America looks like!

justonevictory on October 28, 2012 at 4:25 PM

Same reason why the idiots in MI will vote for Obama. A pro-union mentality. Put simply the deep belief (from generations of indoctrination back to commie grannies) that the individual can do nothing for themselves. That they need that union rep to negotiate with a company for a salary and benefits. That without unions there would be no middle class and all of them would be out on the streets or working for pennies.

Happy Nomad on October 28, 2012 at 4:40 PM

But isn’t coal black? Oh, I forgot. He treats blacks with the same disrespect he treats coal

NOMOBO on October 28, 2012 at 4:39 PM

No, as of recently there is black coal which is the good coal and white coal which is out there killing people wearing hoodies or something.

Happy Nomad on October 28, 2012 at 4:43 PM

PappyD61 on October 28, 2012 at 4:38 PM

both funny and sad….had the “Panetta Doctrine” been in full effect…..Sen. Rubio’s daughter would still be wating for clearance for the medical helicopter.

Tim_CA on October 28, 2012 at 4:46 PM

With all these ‘Wars’ on something — whatever their fertile yet deranged imaginations can come up with and contrive in Obamaville — I would think that the people of Ohio would be like pretty much everyone else in the other 56 states who isn’t a self-deluded acolyte and/or MSM/Poll employed sycophant of Barack Hussein Obama’s be they coal miners or the coal miner’s adult daughter — sick and freakin’ tired of being pummeled by the Pathological Liar, Marxist, and Abject Failure in the White House who cares for absolutely no one and nothing but himself — and his ilk of course.

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FlatFoot on October 28, 2012 at 4:52 PM

Tons of those signs here in western PA as well.

Night Owl on October 28, 2012 at 4:53 PM

I see those signs everywhere in Washington County, PA, western Allegheny County, West Virginia and Eastern Ohio. Love it.

Mitt speaking live in Findlay, Ohio on Fox; Paul Ryan just did a great intro.

Philly on October 28, 2012 at 5:03 PM

Romney & Ryan holding a joint Rally in Findlay Ohio now. Fox has it live.

bluefox on October 28, 2012 at 5:03 PM

@ Philly :-)

bluefox on October 28, 2012 at 5:04 PM

Don’t overlook that fact that the United Mine Workers union is overwhelmingly white.

BobMbx on October 28, 2012 at 3:37 PM

…JugEars don’t like them because they remind him of Al Jolson when they come up to the surface from a days work…with their ‘blackface’ on!

KOOLAID2 on October 28, 2012 at 5:07 PM

I am here in Cuyahoga County OH where Romnesia has not set in…lots of momentum for Romney!

justonevictory on October 28, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Glad to hear that since that County is a Democratic Stronghold. There are other Counties that are the same. In the March Primary, Santorum was leading until those votes came in. Don’t know if the Dems voted Romney to keep Santorum from winning or not.

bluefox on October 28, 2012 at 5:13 PM

When I was a tyke .. used to be that you needed coal in order to make steel, which was used in making automobiles and other stuff.
And you needed oil to make plastic, which was used in making automobiles and other stuff.

What’s the UAW plan on using to make the next batch of automobiles and other stuff?
Well, besides BS, of course ..

/.

CaveatEmpty on October 28, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Where did the Drudge story go where democrats were bussing in Somalians that weren’t citizens to EARLY vote in Columbus OH Friday?

justonevictory
on October 28, 2012 at 3:55 PM

I dunno, but here’s the link posted previously.

http://www.humanevents.com/2012/10/26/is-voter-fraud-being-committed-in-ohio/

avagreen on October 28, 2012 at 5:20 PM

Romney’s ace in the hole might be the 18 counties in Ohio that still produce coal. Obama’s Environmental Protection Agency regulations targeting coal are not popular in those areas.

Not only Obama’s war on coal affects jobs in those Counties & PA as well, but the entire State will suffer from higher electricity rates. I think Romney when in Ohio & PA and any other States that produce coal should make this a point whenever he has a Rally.

bluefox on October 28, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Another group that Obama gets support from in Ohio are the Unions that represent the Prisons. They vote job security, period. The only way they would not, would be if you could convince them they are going to lose their jobs. That is a hard sell, since the Unions constantly lie to the employees. I have a relative that has been brainwashed by those lies.

bluefox on October 28, 2012 at 5:31 PM

Another group that Obama gets support from in Ohio are the Unions that represent the Prisons. They vote job security, period. The only way they would not, would be if you could convince them they are going to lose their jobs.

bluefox on October 28, 2012 at 5:31 PM

Prisons are not going away but this is the perfect crowd for the union thugocracy. Nothing against your relative and prison workers have a tough job but you hardly need a PhD to do it (if you know what I mean). Prison workers are not unintelligent but they are essentially an armed version of the DMV where the bureaucracy of the job crushes any sort of personal initiative or idea that they can make it without shop stewards and collective bargaining. Very easy to brainwash these people into thinking that their future is brighter under the thumb of a rat-eared socialist.

Happy Nomad on October 28, 2012 at 6:05 PM

FIRE OBAMA signs are thick as mushrooms in this neck of the woods (Western PA). Almost every yard has one.

How nice it is to live around people who share American values.

petefrt on October 28, 2012 at 6:06 PM

Took a long drive through the west-side of Cincinnati today and I now feel more optimistic about Romney taking Ohio. The areas I drove through ranged from low income to upper middle. Throughout the area, Romney signs outnumbered Obama by at least 40:1, and that is in no way exaggerated. One thing that really caught my attention, was when I was driving through an area that I consider to be heavy dem leaning, (entire length of Colerain Ave.) the area was almost void of Pres. campaign signs. I counted 2 Obama and two Romney signs on that entire stretch of road. The one thing that jumped out at me today, is that the enthusiasm that was there for O in ’08, is gone in ’12. GONE!

Norky on October 28, 2012 at 6:18 PM

The one thing that jumped out at me today, is that the enthusiasm that was there for O in ’08, is gone in ’12. GONE!

Norky on October 28, 2012 at 6:18 PM

What are yo talking about Norky? All the polls are based on the idea that Obama will top the enthusiasm of 2008 and Republicans are going to be so demoralized they just stay home with the curtains drawn and the lights out. I spent a good portion of Sunday morning listening to Dems telling the punditocracy that Romney was delusional because he is going to lose Ohio. Are you actually suggesting that it might not be true??? ;0

All I can tell you is that the closeness of the race in Virginia is not as clear as the pundits would tell you. Virginia may be a swing state but it seems more and more less swingy than the commies supporting Obama would like you to think I drove through parts of Arlington and Alexandria today. Just as many Romney signs as those of the rat-eared wonder. This was not the case in 2008. I know that yard signs are not an accurate indicator BUT they do give a sense of the general mood.

Happy Nomad on October 28, 2012 at 6:29 PM

355,000 coal country Ohioans voted democrat in 2008, more than the margin of victory.

Vashta.Nerada on October 28, 2012 at 6:49 PM

FIRE OBAMA signs are thick as mushrooms in this neck of the woods (Western PA). Almost every yard has one.

How nice it is to live around people who share American values.

petefrt on October 28, 2012 at 6:06 PM

A friend of mine posted a picture of a large Romney/Ryan sign in his neighborhood in Fort Worth that was defaced with Obama spray painted all over it.

txhsmom on October 28, 2012 at 7:33 PM

How can all of these people like coal?

it isn’t white.

profitsbeard on October 28, 2012 at 7:57 PM

Happy Nomad on October 28, 2012 at 6:29 PM

That’s why I had to see it for myself, and I was pleased with what I saw. I even saw a few of the coal signs, which seemed odd for SW Ohio. The enthusiasm was in-your-face over there, back in ’08, it’s nowhere to be seen today, didn’t even see an Obama bumper sticker. It ain’t over till it’s over, but I’m not quite as nervous about Ohio as I was.

Norky on October 28, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Happy Nomad on October 28, 2012 at 6:29 PM
That’s why I had to see it for myself, and I was pleased with what I saw. I even saw a few of the coal signs, which seemed odd for SW Ohio. The enthusiasm was in-your-face over there, back in ’08, it’s nowhere to be seen today, didn’t even see an Obama bumper sticker. It ain’t over till it’s over, but I’m not quite as nervous about Ohio as I was.

Norky on October 28, 2012 at 8:20 PM

More Ohio polls came out today. They have it tied Obama +1 and Obama +4. It’s close but he’s ahead. And with storm of the century sucking up all of the media attention Romney running out of time to make that ground up. On the other hand maybe the storm will suppress Obama GOTV.

Ric on October 28, 2012 at 8:39 PM

Ric on October 28, 2012 at 8:39 PM

You’re right, Obama’s ahead in Ohio, PPP, Time and CNN’s polls tell me so. Everyone knows their results aren’t skewed, right?

Norky on October 28, 2012 at 9:11 PM

Maybe the President can kick off a quick War on Hurricanes by tomorrow.

Oh goody,we can pick up New Jersey, New york, Connecticut, and Rhode Island.

burt on October 28, 2012 at 9:13 PM

paratisi on October 28, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Dude. At least link to something original.

cptacek on October 28, 2012 at 9:17 PM

Finally someone is paying attention!

I’ve been posting this since 2008:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_mining_in_the_United_States

Twenty-six states produce coal. The major coal-producing states are (in descending order as of 2000, with annual production in thousands of short tons):

Wyoming (338,900)
West Virginia (158,257)
Kentucky (130,688)
Pennsylvania (74,619)
Texas (49,498)
Montana (38,352)
Illinois (33,444)
Virginia (32,834)
North Dakota (31,270)
Colorado (29,137)
Indiana (27,965)
New Mexico (27,323)
Utah (26,656)
Ohio (22,269)
Alabama (19,324)
Arizona (13,111)

Total United States: 1,437,174

How many above are swing state? C’mon Republicans, this election can be won in the coal mines!!!

patch on October 28, 2012 at 9:39 PM

I wish people would stop citing RCP as if they were some kind of experts or that their “poll average” meant squat.

Hard Right on October 28, 2012 at 10:13 PM