Open thread: Sunday morning talking heads

posted at 8:01 am on October 28, 2012 by Allahpundit

Just two Sunday mornings left before E-Day, which means it’s time for a battle of the battlegrounders. Democrats will make the pitch to Virgnia and Colorado with Mark Warner, John Hickenlooper, and Mark Udall. The GOP will counter with a push for Ohio and Wisconsin via Rob Portman, John Kasich, Ron Johnson, and of course Scott Walker. I’m a little surprised not to see Kelly Ayotte, Terry Branstad, or Chuck Grassley too; New Hampshire and Iowa are crucial to Romney’s Plan B if Ohio falls through. Maybe next week.

Andrew Sullivan will be on the ABC panel, in case you want to see what a Sullivan freakout looks like on TV instead of on the page. The line-up via WaPo:

NBC’s Meet the Press: Gov. John Hickenlooper (D-CO); Gov. Scott Walker (R-WI); Gov. John Kasich (R-OH); Carly Fiorina, Vice Chair of the National Republican Senatorial Committee; E.J. Dionne, Washington Post and Brookings Institution; David Brooks, New York Times; Rachel Maddow, MSNBC; Chuck Todd, NBC

CBS’ Face the Nation: Sen. John McCain (R-AZ); former governors Haley Barbour (R-MS); former governor Jennifer Granholm (D-MI); John Fund, National Review; Bob Shrum, Daily Beast; Mark Leibovich, New York Times; Ruth Marcus, Washington Post; John Dickerson, CBS and Slate

ABC’s This Week: Newt Gingrich; Stephanie Cutter, Obama campaign deputy manager; George Will, ABC; Gwen Ifill, ABC; Andrew Sullivan, Daily Beast; Austan Goolsbee, former Obama economic adviser; Nicolle Wallace, Republican strategist

Fox News Sunday: Sen. Rob Portman (R-OH); Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI); Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA); Sen. Mark Udall (D-CO); Brit Hume, Fox News; Juan Williams, Fox News; Karl Rove, Republican strategist; Joe Trippi, Democratic strategist

CNN’s State of the Union with Candy Crowley: David Axelrod, Obama Campaign Senior Adviser; Reince Priebus, RNC Chair; Gov. Bob McDonnell (R-VA); former governor Ted Strickland (D-OH); Bill McInturff, pollster; Anna Greenberg, pollster; Michael Duffy, Time


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Lourdes on October 28, 2012 at 10:16 AM

The fact that there are enough of them to be able to do that, plus, their dedication to their cause… is troubling.

Cleombrotus on October 28, 2012 at 10:18 AM

If it were Bush and Romney the media firestorm would be breathtaking.

CW on October 28, 2012 at 10:21 AM

How do you know what Romney believes? He’s been on all sides of every issue!

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 10:05 AM

A favorite talking point that I see repeated daily by the Kos Kids.

I am pro-life and believe that abortion should be limited to only instances of rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother.

Both Romney and Ryan have advocated legislation that would create personhood rights from the moment of conception, which would rule out abortion rights-no exception for rape or incest.

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 10:05 AM

I will advocate for and support a Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act to protect unborn children who are capable of feeling pain from abortion.

Not quite the same thing, is it?

Flora Duh on October 28, 2012 at 10:22 AM

THE NEXT day Obama was off in Las Vegas..and yet the pukes like Chump just cover his arse.

CW on October 28, 2012 at 10:22 AM

Both Romney and Ryan have advocated legislation that would create personhood rights from the moment of conception, which would rule out abortion rights-no exception for rape or incest.

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Your boy supported laws allowing babies to be tossed in broom closets like trash because they supposedly wouldn’t survive.

Yeah, that Rombo is a monster.

Do your mirrors actually reflect your image?

Bishop on October 28, 2012 at 10:23 AM

How do you know what Romney believes? He’s been on all sides of every issue!

I live in mass. know Romney pretty well. I think he is really like george herbert walker bush.

Mostly a pragmatist. He is a fix it kind of guy. I think some people on both sides won’t like him on social issues-but I have no doubt that he can fix the country’s fiscal situation if he has the votes in the senate.

gerrym51 on October 28, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Your boy supported laws allowing babies to be tossed in broom closets like trash because they supposedly wouldn’t survive.

Yeah, that Rombo is a monster.

Do your mirrors actually reflect your image?

Bishop on October 28, 2012 at 10:23 AM

Like I said Chump has sold its soul.

CW on October 28, 2012 at 10:24 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAkdHzpXXo0&feature=player_embedded

Lena Dunham: Your First Time PARODY

Lourdes on October 28, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Lourdes on October 28, 2012 at 10:16 AM

The fact that there are enough of them to be able to do that, plus, their dedication to their cause… is troubling.

Cleombrotus on October 28, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Yes and it’s why Obama’s version of “working a room” is appearances on shows viewed by youth and the unemployed and that he loiters so much amidst other people’s children.

Lourdes on October 28, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Flora Duh on October 28, 2012 at 10:22 AM

And so does the Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act provide exceptions in the case of rape or incest?

A simple “yes” or “no” will do.

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 10:28 AM

Just lifted this from Gateway Pundit:

This weekend Barack Obama told Morning Joe that ultimately he is to blame for the Benghazi consulate disaster.
The Politico reported:

President Obama vowed Saturday to hold the right people accountable if it’s found that there was breakdown in communications within the intelligence community ahead of last month’s attack in Benghazi.

“What my attitude on this is is if we find out there was a big breakdown and somebody didn’t do their job, they’ll be held accountable,” he said in an interview with “Morning Joe” hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski conducted in Nashua, N.H., according to a report on MSNBC.com.

“Ultimately as commander-in-chief I am responsible and I don’t shy away from that responsibility,” he added.

Huh. That is a big ‘if’.

Mitsouko on October 28, 2012 at 10:28 AM

Chump you’re a puke…I gotta go but you’re low. What a disgusting person you are. Hey but if you win it is all good right? You have not only no soul…but no conscience.

CW on October 28, 2012 at 10:31 AM

Meet the Press roundtable:

David Gregory
Rachel Maddow
E-They-Thionne
UpChuck Todd
David Brooks

Who wouldn’t rather shove needles in their eyes and hot pokers in their ears.

Marcus on October 28, 2012 at 10:31 AM

Boy, when you set up a “strawman”, you don’t fool around.

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 10:08 AM

Dodging the issue again…what else is new.

If you don’t like the way I interpreted it, then clarify it.

Coward.

fossten on October 28, 2012 at 10:32 AM

farsighted on October 28, 2012 at 10:16 AM

you would be correct

cmsinaz on October 28, 2012 at 10:32 AM

Yes and it’s why Obama’s version of “working a room” is appearances on shows viewed by youth and the unemployed and that he loiters so much amidst other people’s children.

Lourdes on October 28, 2012 at 10:27 AM

He really is an underdeveloped psyche, that’s for sure. And the keys to unprecedented power in his hands is frightening.

The fact that there are enough people that his brand appeals to is the real problem here.

I fear they are unreachable.

Cleombrotus on October 28, 2012 at 10:33 AM

Mitsouko on October 28, 2012 at 10:28 AM

and morning joe will let him get away with that answer natch

no hard hitting questions from that squish

cmsinaz on October 28, 2012 at 10:33 AM

And so does the Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act provide exceptions in the case of rape or incest?

A simple “yes” or “no” will do.

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 10:28 AM

This is disingenuous on its face. You leftists don’t care anything about rape or incest. You simply use it as a wedge issue to protect and fund your abortion factories that grind our children into gristle at the rate of one million per year.

fossten on October 28, 2012 at 10:34 AM

ABC: Stephanie Cutter versus Newt. DING! Round One.

Marcus on October 28, 2012 at 10:34 AM

whoops: Newt versus Cutter and Georgie

Marcus on October 28, 2012 at 10:35 AM

fossten on October 28, 2012 at 10:34 AM

True that. If they really cared about those issues they wouldn’t be so quick to squirm away from restricting abortion to those cases only.

Cleombrotus on October 28, 2012 at 10:38 AM

NY Post takedown of Obama…

12 Reasons He Doesn’t Deserve a Second Term

http://www.nypost.com/news/opinion/editorials/case-against-obama

workingclass artist on October 28, 2012 at 10:40 AM

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 10:28 AM

Don’t worry, sweetheart, no matter who is President you’ll still be able to kill as many “urban” babies as you want. Now just calm yourself down. You’re getting worked up over nothing. No one is going to take away your sacred abortion Eucharist.

happytobehere on October 28, 2012 at 10:42 AM

Just threw my boot at Andrew Sullivan. Missed and got the TV.
The 5 trillion is not Obamas fault. It is all the recessions fault. ROFLM*O

RickinNH on October 28, 2012 at 10:43 AM

Juan Williams is a steaming piece of racist libtard sh!t!! That is all!

Rockshine on October 28, 2012 at 10:43 AM

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012

…serious question…(and yes…your mom can help you answer the question!)…have you even reached the age of puberty yet?
…you sound like one of those kids singing in yesterday’s video!

KOOLAID2 on October 28, 2012 at 10:46 AM

And so does the Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act provide exceptions in the case of rape or incest?

A simple “yes” or “no” will do.

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 10:28 AM

This question shows how little you know about gestation and the development of a fetus, but, to answer it…

I am pro-life and believe that abortion should be limited to only instances of rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother.

Flora Duh on October 28, 2012 at 10:47 AM

It’s time to take a higher-level look at these shows and how they misrepresent the very concept of balance. First…look at Fox. For every kook liberal on the show, there is a solid conservative. To moderate this fair and balanced discussion, they provide an actual journalist, Chris Wallace. Yeah, he’s probably a Democrat at heart, but if every other Democrat-at-heart moderator was like Wallace, I’d have no gripe at all.

Every other show fails in both important respects: the libs outnumber the cons, significantly, and the moderators are liberals without a shred of intellectual honesty or journalistic credibility. On the other hand, conservative voices are present on every one of them, at least from a partisan Republican perspective.

But we also get the usual Democrat head-fake: liberals like Nicole Wallace, Andrew Sullivan and David Brooks are placed to misrepresent “Republican” voices–one of the reasons they are so out of balance.

End result: farce.

Jaibones on October 28, 2012 at 10:50 AM

And speaking of media fraud: Today’s Chicago Tribune contains the exciting (yawn) and long-awaited (zzzzzz) Tribune Editorial Board endorsement of O’Bozo. Again.

They have made the full conversion from newspaper anomaly–a liberal rag which endorsed a Republican almost every four years since their founding–to the State-of-the-Industry Media Fraud which employs only liberals and David Brooks Republicans, and endorses imbecile Democrats as a matter of course.

Jaibones on October 28, 2012 at 10:53 AM

Jaibones on October 28, 2012 at 10:50 AM

..and yet…they do it EVERY week!

KOOLAID2 on October 28, 2012 at 10:54 AM

New Poll A From Left-Leaning Firm Is Pretty Brutal For Obama

[snip]

Obama’s approval-to-disapproval rating sits at just 44-52, which is actually worse than Gallup’s tracking on Saturday.

Obama is losing the favorability battle, which has been a key strength for him throughout the campaign. His favorable-to-unfavorable rating sits underwater at 46-50.

Romney’s favorable rating, on the other hand, is a positive 49-45.

Romney leads the self-identified Independent vote by an astounding 16 points. Among this crucial group, Obama’s approval-to-disapproval is 33-60, and Romney’s favorability is 53-37.

These numbers are not a drastic one-day change from Saturday — Obama has been losing Independents by double digits for the past five days of PPP tracking, and his approval with them has been well underwater, too.

Gee, those tanking approval numbers among Independents couldn’t possibly be because of Banghazi details leaking out, could it?

Nah, gumby assured us that nobody cares about it except conservative blogs.

Flora Duh on October 28, 2012 at 10:57 AM

And speaking of media fraud: Today’s Chicago Tribune contains the exciting (yawn) and long-awaited (zzzzzz) Tribune Editorial Board endorsement of O’Bozo. Again.

They have made the full conversion from newspaper anomaly–a liberal rag which endorsed a Republican almost every four years since their founding–to the State-of-the-Industry Media Fraud which employs only liberals and David Brooks Republicans, and endorses imbecile Democrats as a matter of course.

Jaibones on October 28, 2012 at 10:53 AM

Axelrod basically used to work for the Trib and they coordinated to help tank Jack Ryan’s Senate run with the divorce records.

As for the endorsement itself, it is the oddest and one of the lamest endorsements ever. Basically, Obama screwed up on the debt in his first term, but we expect him to make a grand bargain in the second.. Really??

Illinidiva on October 28, 2012 at 11:09 AM

“According to my source, Ambassador Stevens was in Benghazi on September 11, 2012 to meet with his Turkish counterpart, who reportedly warned Stevens that the operation was compromised. They met in person so that Stevens could be shown overhead satellite images, taken by the Russians, of nefarious activities taking place in Turkey. But just what were these nefarious activities?

It is reasonable to suspect that these activities were more dire than just your average “gun running” operation. Since the overthrow of Qaddafi, it is estimated that upwards of 40 million tons of weapons and arms were shipped out of Libya to Syria. But it was also known inside intelligence circles that Qaddafi possessed chemical weapons in addition to numerous surface to air missiles. Could it be that Russia obtained unmistakable surveillance footage of the anti-Assad “rebels” being shown how to load chemical payloads onto missiles inside Turkey near the border of Syria? Weapons, of course, that were shipped from Libya by the CIA in conjunction with various Muslim Brotherhood rebel groups. If so, such weapons could be used as a “false flag” type of operation – one that would be implemented to “set-up” Assad by making it appear that he was using these weapons on forces dedicated to his overthrow.
The blow-back by the international community would be swift and punishing, and the entirety of the civilized world would be demanding his overthrow. NATO would then be used to expedite his ouster, and Russia’s moral position within the international community would be weakened. Was the meeting held to show Stevens that the operation was compromised and that they had to stop?…”

http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/7015

workingclass artist on October 28, 2012 at 11:10 AM

Yep we’ll find out just how much the networks are in the tank for Obama this week.That is for sure.
-

Also, OT but:

NEW ORLEANS (AP) — Madonna drew boos and triggered a walkout by several concertgoers after she touted President Barack Obama on her “MDNA Tour” in New Orleans.

HEH. What a maroon.

CW on October 28, 2012 at 8:19 AM

Here there are a couple of factors. People go to VooDoo fest for the music,not indoctrination. Secondly,even the young people here can see that the Lightbringer has shattered the Oil industry here and his non starts on both the BP spill and the real damages from Issac are eye opening for all but the dumbest Obamabots. Thirdly, the only city in the state that will back Obama is New Orleans itself, the rest are center right to right, including all the suburbs of New Orleans .

gatorbait on October 28, 2012 at 11:14 AM

Speaking of endorsements.. What flips have we had so far.. I’m counting the DMR, the three FL papers, and the NY Observer. Anything else that is interesting?? Romney seems to be running the gambit on the big swing state papers so far.

Illinidiva on October 28, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Gee, those tanking approval numbers among Independents couldn’t possibly be because of Banghazi details leaking out, could it?

Nah, gumby assured us that nobody cares about it except conservative blogs.

Flora Duh on October 28, 2012 at 10:57 AM

Where is Gumby these days?? Curled up in a ball in Mom’s basement??

Illinidiva on October 28, 2012 at 11:16 AM

Mediate has a clip and thread about Mr. Sullivan. You will be both surprised and shocked to find that he believes that if Gov. Romney wins Florida and Virginia, it will be like the Confederacy. He must be trying to find new ways to say racist. Not to worry, Ms. Ifill made sure it was all too clear.

Cindy Munford on October 28, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Jaibones on October 28, 2012 at 10:53 AM

Rumor has it Rupert Murdoch may buy the Chicago Tribune as it comes out of bankruptcy.

farsighted on October 28, 2012 at 11:18 AM

Today Ohio Senator Rob Portman told the FOX News Sunday that we need to find out if this order was ever issued.

“There was a shocking breakdown operationally not having the security there in the first place. And not to respond to these guys and their pleas for help for seven hours during a firefight. It’s unbelievable. And, now we’re hearing that the President of the United States, based on his own words, issued a directive immediately after he found out about the firefight saying he wanted to be sure the people on the ground were safe and they were getting what they needed. It didn’t happen. This means that either the president’s order was not followed. Which would be a breakdown in terms of the White House procedure or it means the order wasn’t issued. We need to find out about this. It’s not about politics…”

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10/boom-senator-portman-we-need-to-find-out-if-obama-ever-issued-th

workingclass artist on October 28, 2012 at 11:19 AM

I was watching Fox, and some guy whose name I did not catch, was trying to explain why Obama is tanking in the polls. He said he could not for the life of him figure out why, unless it was the last debate, or maybe people’s anticipation that Obama would not handle the coming storm (Sandy) very well. The Fox person said, “Don’t bury the lead here. Do you think it might have something to do with his handling of Benghazi?” The guy then says, “Fair enough, that could very well be.” He must have just forgotten about that.

Night Owl on October 28, 2012 at 11:25 AM

Can’t wait to watch the stooges on network TV election night. The look on their faces as they report state by state results will be priceless.

Proud to share most recent poll results of ‘likely voters’ from the great state of Tennessee: 59% – Romney / 34% -Obama .

purgatory on October 28, 2012 at 11:27 AM

farsighted on October 28, 2012 at 11:18 AM

Irony?

Cindy Munford on October 28, 2012 at 11:31 AM

And speaking of media fraud: Today’s Chicago Tribune contains the exciting (yawn) and long-awaited (zzzzzz) Tribune Editorial Board endorsement of O’Bozo. Again.

They have made the full conversion from newspaper anomaly–a liberal rag which endorsed a Republican almost every four years since their founding–to the State-of-the-Industry Media Fraud which employs only liberals and David Brooks Republicans, and endorses imbecile Democrats as a matter of course.

Jaibones on October 28, 2012 at 10:53 AM

May favorite line: “Bolstered by his steadiness in office, cognizant of the vast unfinished business before him, we endorse the re-election of Barack Obama.”

“Steadiness in office”? Do they mean: playing golf? Hobnobbing with celebs? Raising campaign money? “Investing our money in failing green companies? That’s steadiness, all right.

Joseph Medill, founder of the Tribune and the Republican Party, must be spinning in his grave.

polarglen on October 28, 2012 at 11:51 AM

I was watching Fox, and some guy whose name I did not catch, was trying to explain why Obama is tanking in the polls. He said he could not for the life of him figure out why, unless it was the last debate, or maybe people’s anticipation that Obama would not handle the coming storm (Sandy) very well. The Fox person said, “Don’t bury the lead here. Do you think it might have something to do with his handling of Benghazi?” The guy then says, “Fair enough, that could very well be.” He must have just forgotten about that.

Night Owl on October 28, 2012 at 11:25 AM

Or it could be the momentum thing from all three debates catching up with him.. It seems that Romney started to move past Obama after the second debate in a big way… I think that the indies were willing to take a look at Romney after the first debate, but he still needed to seal the deal with them. I think that there were really two deal sealers after Denver.

1. Ryan needed to pass the Presidential threshold, which he did by going toe-to-toe with Biden and keeping his cool. Probably the most salient attack on Ryan is that he is young, looks even younger (in his mid 30s rather than early 40s) and is fairly inexperienced. It is refreshing and adorable that Ryan was a bit visibly nervous during the RNC speech and the VP debate, but it also suggests that he is actually pretty new at this. I think that us conservative news junkies keep forgetting that he has only been a national figure for two years and that this was a much bigger stage than Meet the Press or CNBC Squawk Box. Also, Biden’s psycho shtick really did Obama no help and seems to have been real turn off with indies, especially with older women.

2. People wanted to see if Romney’s performance was a one time event, which it wasn’t. As was pointed out here, the under sections of the polls were jarringly out of line with the top line – tie or Obama win on points. Wasn’t it like 60%+ trusted Romney more on the economy

Illinidiva on October 28, 2012 at 11:51 AM

This question shows how little you know about gestation and the development of a fetus, but, to answer it…

I am pro-life and believe that abortion should be limited to only instances of rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother.

Flora Duh on October 28, 2012 at 10:47 AM

Was that a yes or a no?

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Was that a yes or a no?

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Do you have comprehension issues? She answered the question.

Mitsouko on October 28, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Are we ever going to see the much awaited Brooks-Noonan national Republican ticket?

Every Sunday I wonder, who decides that some of these characters is a Republican, let alone a conservative?

God forbid that they would feature John Bolton, Ann Coulter, Dick Morris or even Joe Arpaio.

And they should have a mandatory warning before any host from MSNBC speaks. Something along the lines of crazy or pathological liars or etc.

Former Governor Charlie (the tuna) Christ is running around Florida getting blacks to vote after church.

Since they have enough ethics and religion to get up for church, they may only go 90% for the jet setter POTUS with the tan.

IlikedAUH2O on October 28, 2012 at 12:07 PM

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 11:57 AM

I am pro-abortion since it kills more future Democrats than Republicans. Does that help you?

IlikedAUH2O on October 28, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Meet the Press roundtable:

Marcus on October 28, 2012 at 10:31 AM

Assembled to bring you five different and completely unique angles on the liberal-gay-Democrat-Obama worldview.

Jaibones on October 28, 2012 at 12:10 PM

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 11:57 AM

You guys have to get busy and sell it to the illegal Hispanics.

IlikedAUH2O on October 28, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Rumor has it Rupert Murdoch may buy the Chicago Tribune as it comes out of bankruptcy.

farsighted on October 28, 2012 at 11:18 AM

Murdoch’s body of work is remarkably … inconsistent. There is no reason whatsoever to imagine that a Murdoch-owned Tribune would bear any resemblance to a journalistic enterprise or a conservative playground. But they might have great-looking naked women on Page Three, and I guess that would be better than a Clarence Page column…

Jaibones on October 28, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Joseph Medill, founder of the Tribune and the Republican Party, must be spinning in his grave.

polarglen on October 28, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Doubling Down on stupid. I’m glad to see these liberal douchebags owning it like this. It’s refreshing.

Jaibones on October 28, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Abortion exists for two reasons in this country only:

- Liberals like chumpThreads don’t believe in condoms or accepting a woman saying no to them

- Liberals prefer the revenue from a $500 abortion fee to that from a fifty-cent condom

The easy way to deal with this is for the new Republican Congress and President to pass a bill that makes it illegal to charge for abortions. Once liberals actually have to pay for them, they’ll discover a way to make them unnecessary.

northdallasthirty on October 28, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Do you have comprehension issues? She answered the question.

Mitsouko on October 28, 2012 at 12:07 PM

No, I don’t, and no, she didn’t.

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 12:21 PM

No, I don’t, and no, she didn’t.

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 12:21 PM

What are you getting at?
Abortion in cases of rape or incest – yes.

Do you think that contradicts the pain-capable statement? It doesn’t.

Mitsouko on October 28, 2012 at 12:31 PM

I’m pretty sure Romney believes life is viable inside an Embassy. Obama aborted those lives.

2Tru2Tru on October 28, 2012 at 12:43 PM

OK, how about these questions (which I’m sure has already been brought up on this site but not on the networks):

it’s out there, that we were trying to keep a small “footprint” in places like Benghazi. i get it, not that I understand that philosophy, but I get that this is the administration’s view. so if you are going to sacrifice having a real security presence there wouldn’t you make darn well sure that at the first sign of unrest 1) the president would be informed and 2) a larger security force with military backup would be there within a couple of hours? if you are going to take the chance of not having enough security there you better have a reinforcement plan. Maybe the administration had a plan like this. We don’t know. it’s probably not a coincidence that the Annex was just around the corner from the consulate but this also means that the plan was not followed and they left those in real danger to fend for themselves.

Did you have a plan? if so, did you follow this plan? the ambassador is a direct surrogate of the president. shouldn’t he do everything in his power to keep those people safe?

Please tell me if I’m wrong.

conservativescientist on October 28, 2012 at 12:43 PM

Jaibones on October 28, 2012 at 12:10 PM

I have two conservative friends who had a fight about Sunday morning talk shows.

The difference of opinion was whether the questions were designed to follow the latest Democrat talking points or if the questions were set to help find more strident attacks on the Republicans.

Both agreed about the traps they toss in front of all conservatives if the show lasts long enough.

BTW, I just watched Crowley’s show for the second time ever.

Aside from feeding the WaPo poll showing our POTUS a lock to set the table, Crowley managed to totally ignore all the news of the last part of this week.

Amazing that the former Oho Governor Ted Strickland got almost double the time of the sitting governor from Virginia. But our boy Bob McDonnell did get the massacre in Libya in and talked so fast that the linebacker with lipstick could not interrupt him.

Then the show quickly went to storm coverage.

IlikedAUH2O on October 28, 2012 at 12:52 PM

… Maybe the administration had a plan like this….conservativescientist on October 28, 2012 at 12:43 PM

Where have you been?

The only plan of the WH for the last two years is keeping the cool friends in Hollywood, expensive parties on the taxpayer, golf and getting another term. The main tactic was attacking Americans who were usually white males or Taliban in Pakistan.

The mess in Libya made out POTUS look bad. Haven’t you heard?

Image is everything!

IlikedAUH2O on October 28, 2012 at 12:58 PM

What are you getting at?
Abortion in cases of rape or incest – yes.

Do you think that contradicts the pain-capable statement? It doesn’t.

Mitsouko on October 28, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Really? Here’s a quote from the Act:

The Pain Capable Unborn Child Protection Act would prohibit abortion after 20 weeks from fertilization in order to protect pain-capable unborn children from excruciating deaths. (There are exceptions when abortion is necessary to save the life of the mother or to avert a serious risk of substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function.)

Where is an exception in the case of rape or incest mentioned?

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Abortion illustrates the absolute hypocracy of liberals.

One month after you are born, liberals scream about the rights of children.
One month before you are born, it’s ok to kill you.
.
..

Another dose of brilliance from liberals:

“Researchers at the University of Arizona sampled 84 reusable bags from shoppers in Los Angeles, the most recent major municipality to ban plastic bags, and two additional bag-outlawed cities. The findings were stunning: just over half were contaminated with some form of harmful bacteria while at least twelve percent contained traces of fecal matter. When the contaminated bags were housed in car trunks for two hours, scientists found the number of bacteria was boosted ten-fold.”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/27/Explosive-CDC-omission-norovirus-spread-through-reusable-grocery-bags

The liberals running big cities like Los Angeles are about to perform an uncontrolled biological experiment on their citizens.
.
The outcome will be predictable.

MichaelGabriel on October 28, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Really? Here’s a quote from the Act:

The Pain Capable Unborn Child Protection Act would prohibit abortion after 20 weeks from fertilization in order to protect pain-capable unborn children from excruciating deaths. (There are exceptions when abortion is necessary to save the life of the mother or to avert a serious risk of substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function.)
Where is an exception in the case of rape or incest mentioned?

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Hey chump baby killer, I would imagine most rape and incest victims would know they’re pregnant by the 20th week of fertilization right? When does personal responsibility and personal accountability come to bear, regardless of the circumstances of what “caused” the pregnancy? 50 million aborted fetuses and counting, and YOU and other weak, like-minded liberals, can only shill for abortion rights, really? I doubt you’re even an American.

DebraChicago on October 28, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Wow, this is one of those days I couldn’t stay on a show long enough to hear what they said. Honestly, every one of them I checked, it was an Obama Jihadi media Hack spewing some idiocy and, well let’s leave it at, I had to change the channel!

I did want to pass along a CALL TO ACTION. Freedom Works is putting together a 1Million call to the White House on Monday Morning(tomorrow,)Oct.29th,2012. So as to not let the White House or the media, get away with sweeping Benghazi-Gate under the rug! Here’s the details from Freedom Works:http://connect.freedomworks.org/node/313166?source=tweet-event

http://www.paratisiusa.blogspot.com

God Bless America!

paratisi on October 28, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Protecting the unborn from the pain of abortion

Even those who believe that abortion in most cases is morally permissible should agree that we must not inflict needless suffering on other living things. To do so is cruel and inhumane. We do not consider treating animals in the barbaric way that abortion treats pain-capable unborn human beings. People on both sides of the abortion debate should agree that the gratuitous suffering of the human fetus is incompatible with a decent and humane society.

The evidence

A wealth of anatomical, behavioral and physiological evidence shows that the developing unborn child (i.e., the human fetus) is capable of experiencing tremendous pain by 20 weeks post-fertilization.

Anatomical: Pain receptors are present throughout the unborn child’s entire body by no later than 16 weeks after fertilization, and nerves link these receptors to the brain’s thalamus and subcortical plate by no later than 20 weeks. For unborn children, says Dr. Paul Ranalli, a neurologist at the University of Toronto, 20 weeks is a “uniquely vulnerable time, since the pain system is fully established, yet the higher level pain-modifying system has barely begun to develop.” As a result, unborn babies at this age probably feel pain more intensely than adults.

Behavioral: By 8 weeks after fertilization, the unborn child reacts to touch. By 20 weeks post-fertilization, the unborn child reacts to stimuli that would be recognized as painful if applied to an adult human—for example, by recoiling. Surgeons entering the womb to perform corrective procedures on unborn children have seen those babies flinch, jerk and recoil from sharp objects and incisions. In addition, ultrasound technology shows that unborn babies at 20 weeks and earlier react physically to outside stimuli such as sound, light and touch.

Physiological: The application of painful stimuli is associated with significant increases in the unborn child’s stress hormones. During fetal surgery, anesthesia is routinely administered to the unborn baby and is associated with a decrease in stress hormones compared to their level when painful stimuli is applied without such anesthesia. More evidence and complete documentation of fetal pain is available at http://www.doctorsonfetalpain.com.

The pain of abortion

The most common abortion procedure used after the first trimester of pregnancy, including at 20 weeks, is dilation and evacuation (D & E). This method involves dismembering the unborn child. The U.S. Supreme Court (in its 2007 Gonzales v. Carhart decision) describes the D & E procedure as follows: “The doctor grips a fetal part with the forceps and pulls it back through the cervix and vagina, continuing to pull even after meeting resistance from the cervix. The friction causes the fetus to tear apart. For example, a leg might be ripped off the fetus as it is pulled through the cervix and out of the woman. The process of evacuating the fetus piece by piece continues until it has been completely removed.”

DebraChicago on October 28, 2012 at 1:17 PM

General Ham, four stars, says no request for aid was ordered even though there were resources in proximity. So between the President ordering help and this regional commander pretty much sits Sec Def disobeying orders right? Unless the President is lying which I suppose could be happening.

Rancher on October 28, 2012 at 1:18 PM

Hey chump baby killer, I would imagine most rape and incest victims would know they’re pregnant by the 20th week of fertilization right? When does personal responsibility and personal accountability come to bear, regardless of the circumstances of what “caused” the pregnancy? 50 million aborted fetuses and counting, and YOU and other weak, like-minded liberals, can only shill for abortion rights, really? I doubt you’re even an American.

DebraChicago on October 28, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Your comment is irrelevant to the conversation.

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Protecting the unborn from the pain of abortion

Even those who believe that abortion in most cases is morally permissible should agree that we must not inflict needless suffering on other living things. To do so is cruel and inhumane. We do not consider treating animals in the barbaric way that abortion treats pain-capable unborn human beings. People on both sides of the abortion debate should agree that the gratuitous suffering of the human fetus is incompatible with a decent and humane society.

“Without question, [abortion at 20 weeks] is a dreadfully painful experience for any infant subjected to such a surgical procedure.”
— Dr. Robert J. White Neurosurgeon, Case Western Reserve University
The evidence

A wealth of anatomical, behavioral and physiological evidence shows that the developing unborn child (i.e., the human fetus) is capable of experiencing tremendous pain by 20 weeks post-fertilization.

Anatomical: Pain receptors are present throughout the unborn child’s entire body by no later than 16 weeks after fertilization, and nerves link these receptors to the brain’s thalamus and subcortical plate by no later than 20 weeks. For unborn children, says Dr. Paul Ranalli, a neurologist at the University of Toronto, 20 weeks is a “uniquely vulnerable time, since the pain system is fully established, yet the higher level pain-modifying system has barely begun to develop.” As a result, unborn babies at this age probably feel pain more intensely than adults.

Behavioral: By 8 weeks after fertilization, the unborn child reacts to touch. By 20 weeks post-fertilization, the unborn child reacts to stimuli that would be recognized as painful if applied to an adult human—for example, by recoiling. Surgeons entering the womb to perform corrective procedures on unborn children have seen those babies flinch, jerk and recoil from sharp objects and incisions. In addition, ultrasound technology shows that unborn babies at 20 weeks and earlier react physically to outside stimuli such as sound, light and touch.

DebraChicago on October 28, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Your comment is irrelevant to the conversation.

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Typical non-response dodge from the impotent baby killer *laughs

DebraChicago on October 28, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Is it just me or does Andrew Sullivan sound like Stewie for Family Guy? Just saying…..

DailyTrackingPoll on October 28, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Your comment is irrelevant to the conversation.

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 1:19 PM

About the best a baby killer could come up with.

ShadowsPawn on October 28, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Your comment is irrelevant to the conversation.

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 1:19 PM

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Abortion up to 20 weeks in cases of rape and incest (in states that choose to adopt that). Pain capable act in place (in states which choose to adopt that)after 20 weeks gestation.

How is that contradictory?

Mitsouko on October 28, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Typical non-response dodge from the impotent baby killer *laughs

DebraChicago on October 28, 2012 at 1:21 PM

You’re obviously too lazy to read the thread to understand the issue being discussed.

The anti-abortion act in question makes no exception for cases of rape or incest. That was the question I asked.

End of story.

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 1:25 PM

50 million aborted fetuses and counting, and YOU and other weak, like-minded liberals, can only shill for abortion rights, really? I doubt you’re even an American.

DebraChicago on October 28, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Romney could have turned this “war on women” meme against the Dems so many ways.

Living, suffering babies in linen carts, a lousy $10 a month for pills, redundant laws for equal pay and snarky remarks about binders while there was nothing but silence by the left toward Clinton and alleged “dog on your leg” behavior.

And now we have a POTUS who is the pop culture’s version of perfect!

And I thought only men considered issues with their hormones.

IlikedAUH2O on October 28, 2012 at 1:26 PM

You’re obviously too lazy to read the thread to understand the issue being discussed.

The anti-abortion act in question makes no exception for cases of rape or incest. That was the question I asked.

End of story.

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 1:25 PM

So, the child born of incest or rape can’t feel pain at 20 weeks? Or does that matter to you?

ShadowsPawn on October 28, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Mitsouko on October 28, 2012 at 1:24 PM

The act which is the subject of the converstion clearly states the exceptions allowable under its provisions. Rape and incest are not mentioned.

Seriously, how hard is that to understand?

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 1:31 PM

If the Obama Campaign were allowed to write the Obituary for Ambassador Stevens, it would say he died in a house fire.

The media blackout on Benghazi is disgusting.

Here is a way you can help:

Operation Benghazi Accountability

1st Objective-(Media Blitz) By calling the press we will put pressure on them to ask the tough questions and to run the story

White House Correspondants 202-266-7453 *

NBC 212-664-3720

ABC 212-456-7777

CBS 212-975-3247

http://connect.freedomworks.org/node/313166?source=tweet-event

Let’s melt down the switchboards monday. This is just too important to ignore.

portlandon on October 28, 2012 at 1:35 PM

So, the child born of incest or rape can’t feel pain at 20 weeks? Or does that matter to you?

ShadowsPawn on October 28, 2012 at 1:27 PM

What matters to me is that in the kind of country you want, every rapist who succeeds in impregnating his victim gets to be a father, whether the victim wants it or not.

That’s known as compulsory childbirth. I think the rape victim should be able to decide on her own whether to carry the pregnancy to term.

Oh, and 31 states have no laws barring a rapist from asserting parental or visitation rights.

Anti-abortionists have a sick and frightening vision for this country. I will alway be against you.

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 1:36 PM

You’re obviously too lazy to read the thread to understand the issue being discussed.

The anti-abortion act in question makes no exception for cases of rape or incest. That was the question I asked.

End of story.

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 1:25 PM

*yawnzzzzzz more regressive projection from the impotent liberal..stupid foreigner ; )

Strawman, the act provides for no abortions after 20 weeks, when fetuses feel pain and after the supremes already pretty much put the kibosh on partial birth abortions (Obama’s fave).

Pregnancies from rape and incest are determined far sooner than 20 weeks.

‘ Women who are willing to kill their own preborn children for mere convenience obviously see lying as a relatively small crime. Rebecca Chalker and Carol Downer admit in their A Woman’s Book of Choices that “Before abortion was legal, women sometimes got abortions by claiming that they had been raped.”[73]
Pro-abortion women have continued to lie on a huge scale, as proven by the Hyde Amendment’s varying effects upon the level of Federal funding of abortions since 1977.
The Hyde Amendment cut off Federal funding for convenience abortions, and paid for 17,983 abortions to save the life of the mother and for rape and incest in Fiscal Year 1981.
In Fiscal Years 1983 and 1984, only abortions to save the life of the mother were allowed under the Amendment, and the average number of abortions paid for during these two years plunged to 411.
This means that about (17,983 – 411) = 17,582 abortions were performed for claimed “rape and incest” under the Hyde Amendment in 1981.
This brings up a very interesting point. To begin with, about 20 percent of all women in the United States qualify for Federal abortion funding under this Amendment due to their low incomes. As mentioned above, the average number of rapes in the United States each year over the period 1980-1997 inclusive was about 179,980.
If this number is divided by five in order to find out approximately how many low-income women were raped during these years, we arrive at 36,000.
In other words, these low-income women are claiming that (17,582/36,000) = 49 percent of all of their rapes resulted in pregnancies!
To take this analysis one step further, Figure 3-5 shows that about 0.8 percent of all women who are raped actually become pregnant as a result of the act. This means that the number of women who claimed that they were raped to get a free Federal abortion was (49 percent/0.8 percent) = 61 times the number that were actually raped.
In other words, more than 98 percent of them lied to get a free taxpayer-paid abortion!

DebraChicago on October 28, 2012 at 1:37 PM

poor chump, shilling on the strawman rape and incest canard

DebraChicago on October 28, 2012 at 1:38 PM

The Impacts of Lying. When an abortion law is liberalized to allow exceptions for rape and incest, the number of women claiming rape just so they can get a free abortion invariably multiplies by a factor of two, five or even ten. Just as inevitably, all available rape-crisis resources are overwhelmed by the sudden explosion of referrals. Women who were really raped will be victimized a second time because of these liars, and agencies and the public will eventually begin to regard even genuine claims of rape as “crying wolf.”
Additionally, these callous and uncaring women will stretch law-enforcement agencies to the limit. The results may be twofold: When the lying woman is quizzed regarding her “rape,” she may feel pressured to come up with a name — any name, and innocent men will be prosecuted and even jailed (although this result may be welcome to the gender feminists who claim that “all men are, by their very natures, rapists”).[75]
Secondly, the chances of real rapists being caught will drop drastically due to overloading of investigative agencies, and these predators will be perfectly free to rape and rape again.
In just one of thousands of cases of false rape accusations, an 11-year old girl accused her mother’s boyfriend, Ivie Cornell Norris, of raping her repeatedly. Cornell was convicted and sent to prison. After he had languished there for more than a year, the girl admitted that she had lied. Her story was based on an episode of the television program “21 Jump Street,” which had depicted a rape.[76]
Norris’ life was destroyed; he lost his job, his freedom, his reputation, his girlfriend, and all of his savings over this spurious charge. This is typical of the impacts on a man who is imprisoned on a false rape charge. Gender feminists know full well that Norris’ story might be repeated thousands of times annually if women try to get abortions under rape and incest exceptions. But, since they couldn’t care less about the impacts of their decisions on men, they cannot be expected to promulgate any kind of safeguard against this terrible abuse.
The Pennsylvania Abortion Control Act of 1988 required women who claimed to be victims of rape or incest to report their crimes before getting a free abortion from the state. The reporting of rapes jumped significantly the very first month the law was in effect, and police reported that some women admitted that they were reporting rapes just to get a free abortion.[77]
When large numbers of pro-abortion women start lying to get their free abortions, the situation makes it next to impossible for law enforcement agencies to find and prosecute real rapists. As Ferris B. Lucas, Executive Director of the National Sheriff’s Association, said in 1983;

We do, however, wish to comment on the provisions that would allow federal funds to be paid for abortions performed for treatment of rape or incest victims only. The wording would lead a person desirous of an abortion to make false reports to law enforcement agencies which would have to be checked and investigated to some length. These crimes are not easy ones to prove or disprove and resultantly require many man-hours of investigation. American law enforcement agencies are presently overburdened and do not have this vast amount of time available.[78]

This explosion of uncaring liars first occurred in Colorado, when the Model Penal Code abortion law revisions were passed in 1967. This law allowed abortions only to save the life of the mother for rape and incest, and for the mother’s health. Of the 1,850 legal abortions performed in Colorado the first year under this law, 18 percent (or 333) of the mothers claimed to be rape victims.[79]
According to the statistical analysis performed earlier in this Chapter, it is probable that at least 330 of the 333 were lying. This percentage is buttressed by the fact that, in all of these cases, not a single rapist was arrested or even identified, a statistical impossibility in light of the fact that more than half of all rapes are committed by men that the victim knows.

DebraChicago on October 28, 2012 at 1:40 PM

DebraChicago on October 28, 2012 at 1:40 PM

You write a lot, but you don’t say anything.

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 1:46 PM

What matters to me is that in the kind of country you want, every rapist who succeeds in impregnating his victim gets to be a father, whether the victim wants it or not.

Nope. Can’t do that when you’re in jail.

Isn’t that funny? Obama supporters like you shriek about rape, but won’t send rapists to jail. Indeed, you openly advocate for rapists to be released, make excuses for rapists like Roman Polanski, and call for conservative women to be raped.

Your obsession with rape is because you and your fellow liberals are rapists. That’s all there is to it.

That’s known as compulsory childbirth. I think the rape victim should be able to decide on her own whether to carry the pregnancy to term.

She wouldn’t have the problem if you hadn’t raped her.

Stop raping women, chumpThreads. You and your party of rapists who support coercing women into sex, refuse to wear condoms, and insist that having sex with people when they’re drunk or drugged is acceptable are the ones causing the problem with rape.

Anti-abortionists have a sick and frightening vision for this country. I will alway be against you.

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Of course. We make it impossible for rapists like yourself who want to coerce women into sex, refuse to listen to “no”, and then refuse to wear a condom, to get rid of the evidence of what you’ve done.

We also make it impossible for you promiscuous liberals to avoid the financial and legal consequences of your refusal to act responsibly or to respect the rights of women to say no to you.

If you wore condoms, chumpThreads, abortion wouldn’t be necessary. If you used birth control like you scream and claim you do, abortion wouldn’t be necessary. Yet all you liberals do is rape and abort.

northdallasthirty on October 28, 2012 at 1:46 PM

What matters to me is that in the kind of country you want, every rapist who succeeds in impregnating his victim gets to be a father, whether the victim wants it or not.

That’s known as compulsory childbirth. I think the rape victim should be able to decide on her own whether to carry the pregnancy to term.

Oh, and 31 states have no laws barring a rapist from asserting parental or visitation rights.

Anti-abortionists have a sick and frightening vision for this country. I will alway be against you.

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Who cares baby killer, you’re in the minority and not an American *shrugs

In the U.S. in one year, there are more than 6 million pregnancies. Roughly 3 million eventuate in live birth, 1.5 million are aborted and 500,000 miscarry. While each assault rape pregnancy is a tragedy for the mother (not for the baby, though), such pregnancies amount to a small fraction of the total annual U.S. pregnancies. Further, less than half of assault rape pregnancies are aborted, even though that course of action tends to be vigorously pushed by those around the woman.

DebraChicago on October 28, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Well, I’ll give the chump credit for one thing, he’s certainly managed to divert attention away from what everybody was talking about at the beginning of this thread – Benghazi and the media’s lack of covering it.

Just like urban elitist has diverted the thread about Romney moving up in Minnesota to a – “discussion” – about Bush’s WMD’s and Afghanistan.

I guess that’s OFA’s orders for the next week – divert! divert! divert!

Flora Duh on October 28, 2012 at 1:48 PM

You writewhine a lot, but you don’t say anything.

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 1:46 PM

FIFY ; )

DebraChicago on October 28, 2012 at 1:49 PM

You write a lot, but you don’t say anything.

chumpThreads on October 28, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Actually, we already know that Obama supporters lie about rape and that Obama Party politicians and endorsees of Barack Obama support lying about rape.

Look at Crystal Mangum and Mike Nifong. Obama voters, Obama supporters, Obama Party politicians. All endorsed and supported their lies about rape.

And then we have Obama endorsee and supporter Whoopi Goldberg, who insisted that Roman Polanski is not guilty of rape, because in the Obama Party, drugging and having sex with a fourteen-year-old does not qualify as rape.

And then we have Obama endorsees like Sandra Bernhard openly calling for conservative women like Sarah Palin to be raped by black men.

Chumpy is a rapist. ChumpThread endorses the Barack Obama Party, which legitimizes and protects rapists.

northdallasthirty on October 28, 2012 at 1:50 PM

Well, I’ll give the chump credit for one thing, he’s certainly managed to divert attention away from what everybody was talking about at the beginning of this thread – Benghazi and the media’s lack of covering it.

Just like urban elitist has diverted the thread about Romney moving up in Minnesota to a – “discussion” – about Bush’s WMD’s and Afghanistan.

I guess that’s OFA’s orders for the next week – divert! divert! divert!

Flora Duh on October 28, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Exactly, Flora Duh.

But once one points out that ChumpThreads endorses and supports rape and uses abortion to avoid having to wear a condom, and that urban elitist supports and endorses the lies Obama is telling, that gets it back to the main point — that Barack Obama and his supporters are deranged, disgusting bigots and children who have no interest other than exploiting government to get welfare checks.

northdallasthirty on October 28, 2012 at 1:52 PM

Oh, and 31 states have no laws barring a rapist from asserting parental or visitation rights. Chump says..

Brilliant argument to continue to murder a million fetuses each year *rolling my eyes

Here’s an idea, have those 31 states create laws that BAR a rapist from asserting parental rights eh?

Common sense, an anathema idea to progressive liberals.

DebraChicago on October 28, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Flora Duh

The lame stream media is fully invested in Odumbo, they have 9 days to go, they won’t do their duty at this late point, they’re all in, sadly.

Their livelihoods depend on the progressive, liberal “leadership” (and money, AKA tax dollars; bailouts, crony kickbacks, lard, pork, whatever you want to call it) that shares the agenda of the colluding, biassed, partisan journo-lister posers in the USA these days. Who else will prop up the velvet sock puppet? I mean, aside from all the elitist vermin in Hollyweird?

DebraChicago on October 28, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Brilliant argument to continue to murder a million fetuses each year *rolling my eyes

Here’s an idea, have those 31 states create laws that BAR a rapist from asserting parental rights eh?

Common sense, an anathema idea to progressive liberals.

DebraChicago on October 28, 2012 at 1:54 PM

That’s because this is not about rape or incest, Debra; it’s about using those as an excuse to justify free abortions because Chumpy and his ilk don’t want to wear a condom and don’t want to take no for an answer.

If ChumpThreads and his fellow abortionists would just wear condoms and respect women’s right to say no to them, abortion would become pretty much unnecessary. But since they won’t do either, they NEED abortion as a means of cleaning up their messes.

Barack Obama admitted that Malia and Sasha were stupid and promiscuous children who weren’t responsible enough and intelligent enough to say no, use birth control, or insist their sexual partners wear condoms — and that’s why they needed abortion. It’s nothing more than protecting the ignorant and stupid.

northdallasthirty on October 28, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Now back to the Bears game, the Panthers giving us a run for our money today ; ) Keep the faith folks, victory is in our grasp!

MITT WON’T QUIT!

DebraChicago on October 28, 2012 at 2:02 PM

I agree northdallasthirty, nothing but strawmen, semantics, canards that the impotent left shills spew like the good sheeple they are, it’s pitiful and pathetic.

DebraChicago on October 28, 2012 at 2:04 PM

workingclass artist on October 28, 2012 at 11:10 AM

In close connection to your post:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/22/the-real-reason-behind-benghazigate/

avagreen on October 28, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Here’s the details from Freedom Works:http://connect.freedomworks.org/node/313166?source=tweet-event

http://www.paratisiusa.blogspot.com

God Bless America!

paratisi on October 28, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Thanks for the info. It wouldn’t hurt to call the Republicans in Congress also; I think they have slept long enough:-)

Other than Issa & Chaffetz!

bluefox on October 28, 2012 at 2:26 PM

workingclass artist on October 28, 2012 at 11:10 AM

In close connection to your post:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/22/the-real-reason-behind-benghazigate/

avagreen on October 28, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Here’s another:
http://www.radicalislam.org/analysis/arms-flow-syria-may-be-behind-beghazi-cover

avagreen on October 28, 2012 at 2:27 PM

General Ham, four stars, says no request for aid was ordered even though there were resources in proximity. So between the President ordering help and this regional commander pretty much sits Sec Def disobeying orders right? Unless the President is lying which I suppose could be happening.

Rancher on October 28, 2012 at 1:18 PM

Is there a link or any other info where General Ham said this? You may be referring to Jason Chaffetz that Fox News had on earlier and if so, I saw that also. Chaffetz saw and spoke to Gen. Ham recently. I’d believe Gen. Ham over Obama any day and Panetta also. I haven’t seen anything being quoted directly from Gen. Ham and I’m sure we won’t be.

bluefox on October 28, 2012 at 2:35 PM

northdallasthirty on October 28, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Agreed. Chump and the dems love a good women hater and rapist type. Whether it’s the Kennedy clan, TEddy ditching a drowning woman or BJ assaulting a distressed Katherine Willey(or a 1/2 dozen others). Chump (and his barbie dolls) giggle,tingle and cheer these misogynists on.

BoxHead1 on October 28, 2012 at 2:43 PM

Let’s melt down the switchboards monday. This is just too important to ignore.

portlandon on October 28, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Good idea. I’ll add your info to what was already posted.

bluefox on October 28, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Special is supposed to be on Fox News at 3PM EDT today on Benghazi.
Then again at 10PM this evening.

bluefox on October 28, 2012 at 2:50 PM

But our boy Bob McDonnell did get the massacre in Libya in and talked so fast that the linebacker with lipstick could not interrupt him.

Then the show quickly went to storm coverage.

IlikedAUH2O on October 28, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Heh.

Jaibones on October 28, 2012 at 4:55 PM

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