Quotes of the day

posted at 9:16 pm on October 27, 2012 by Allahpundit

The White House on Saturday flatly denied that President Barack Obama withheld requests for help from the besieged American compound in Benghazi, Libya, as it came under on attack by suspected terrorists on September 11th.

“Neither the president nor anyone in the White House denied any requests for assistance in Benghazi,” National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor told Yahoo News by email…

“Would the secretary of defense make such a decision on his own? No,” [Bill] Kristol wrote. “It would have been a presidential decision.”

“He’s wrong,” said Vietor.

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Bill Kristol suggests that it had to be a decision by Obama himself not to help the Americans under siege in Benghazi and that David Petraeus is signaling exactly that with the CIA’s emphatic denial that the decision came from his shop. If that’s true, at what point does Petraeus have to speak out? If the reports are true, I think you can make the case that Petraeus should resign in protest. But that’s based somewhat on speculation about what I think happened. I don’t know for sure. Petraeus does.

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“President Obama today said that he gave an order to everyone while the attack was going on to do everything they could to secure the personnel,” [former Reagan assistant secretary of defense Bing] West said. “Now that’s really big because that means that those who were turning down [former Navy SEAL] Ty Woods when he was asking for the help were going against the orders of the president of the United States.”…

“A chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff doesn’t take an order from the president when he says ‘do everything’ and not put that in writing and send it out to the chain of command,” West said. “If that actually happened the way President Obama today said it happened, there’s a paper trail and I think people reasonably enough can say, ‘well can we see the order?’ because hundreds of others supposedly saw this order.”

“But if there is no order then people have to ask some very basic questions, ‘what the heck happened?’” he said.

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1.) To whom did the president give the first of his “three very clear directives”—that is, “make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to?”…

7.) Was the president made aware of the repeated requests for assistance from the men under attack? When and by whom?…

9.) Did the president refuse to authorize an armed drone strike on the attackers?

10.) Did the president refuse to authorize a C-130 [Spectre gunship] to enter Libyan airspace during the attack?

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[A]s of right now, outside of a very few exceptions, the CorruptMedia has coordinated with the White House to create a complete blackout around this story. Not even yesterday’s denial from the CIA that indirectly implicates the White House garnered any media attention.

In the closing days of a reelection campaign the CorruptMedia is desperate to see Obama win, it’s glaringly obvious that nothing this potentially damaging to the president will be allowed to see the light of day — at least not until after November 6.

Had Obama answered Clark’s question yesterday, he would’ve violated this unspoken blackout agreement by making news. This would’ve forced the CorruptMedia to cover a story they’re desperate to pretend doesn’t exist. Obama knows his Media Palace Guards are covering for him, and he knew that wouldn’t have been possible had he done anything that nudged the story.

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jrsrigmvr on October 28, 2012 at 2:09 AM

Goodnight, Fred. Great tunes, as usual. Sleep well. :)

thatsafactjack on October 28, 2012 at 2:16 AM

predator on October 28, 2012 at 2:15 AM

Very glad you liked it. It was my pleasure.

thatsafactjack on October 28, 2012 at 2:17 AM

Most of the wierwolfs are in Europe. Mainly they hang out in the marshy parts.

SparkPlug on October 28, 2012 at 1:05 AM

..actually, in London?

The War Planner on October 28, 2012 at 2:19 AM

Tango Flamenco

thatsafactjack on October 28, 2012 at 2:19 AM

–ah-hoooooooooo!

Night all! Gotta hit the dirt.

The War Planner on October 28, 2012 at 2:19 AM

I must say, Predator, I’m very impressed that you like this genre and style of music. It’s a side of you I’d not seen until tonight. We have this, too, in common. :)

thatsafactjack on October 28, 2012 at 2:15 AM

Yeah, it shocks the crap out of folks around here when they find out I like this kind of music. My mom and sister were stunned. About the only music I don’t like is the rap hip-hop garbage. And most opera. There is a little of that that I like, but not much.

But fear not, I can also go outlaw in a heartbeat. Back to my outlaw roots. ;)

predator on October 28, 2012 at 2:20 AM

The War Planner on October 28, 2012 at 2:19 AM

Goodnight, War Planner. Sleep well.

thatsafactjack on October 28, 2012 at 2:20 AM

thatsafactjack on October 28, 2012 at 2:06 AM

Doin’ ok, Jackie. Feelin’ burned out, but cracked a beer and poured a shot and things are looking up!

novaculus on October 28, 2012 at 2:20 AM

predator on October 28, 2012 at 2:20 AM

LOL! I never doubted that you could. I’m glad you shared these insights with me, though. I appreciate it when someone shares good music with me. :)

thatsafactjack on October 28, 2012 at 2:22 AM

Smoke Stack Lightning

novaculus on October 28, 2012 at 2:22 AM

novaculus on October 28, 2012 at 2:20 AM

I’m glad you stopped by to recuperate and recharge, Nova. :)

thatsafactjack on October 28, 2012 at 2:23 AM

However, the tango is meant to be fire an ice. I try to find the one’s that suit. :)

thatsafactjack on October 28, 2012 at 2:09 AM

Fire and ice. Fuego y hielo. That’s exactly what was said when I learned the dance years ago in Argentina. Never was that good at it, of course, but I always danced with the girls who were, making me look quite the tangonista. It’s not that difficult of a dance for the guy anyway, it is the woman who makes it work. Perhaps a metaphor in there somewhere?

TXUS on October 28, 2012 at 2:24 AM

Assassins Tango

This is probably too suggestive, but I’m assuming you’re all over 21 and its late. I’m going to watch Predators video. Enjoy.

thatsafactjack on October 28, 2012 at 1:46 AM

.
After careful review, that video will be classified PG-13 …

… however, removal of 12 seconds of specific visuals … and it will pass as PG.

I am guessing you haven’t seen some of the new shows this fall … CBS is pushing the limits in a few of them.

PolAgnostic on October 28, 2012 at 2:24 AM

TXUS on October 28, 2012 at 2:24 AM

I’m sure you’re being too modest. It takes two to tango, as they say, and both partners must make that fire and ice work.

thatsafactjack on October 28, 2012 at 2:27 AM

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 28, 2012 at 12:32 AM
Everything he picks turns to sheet.
Nicole Coulter on October 28, 2012 at 12:57 AM

Barry is the cover of Sports Illustrated.

bayview on October 28, 2012 at 2:28 AM

I got a half Bishop on Page 7.

SparkPlug on October 28, 2012 at 2:28 AM

And most opera. There is a little of that that I like, but not much.

But fear not, I can also go outlaw in a heartbeat. Back to my outlaw roots. ;)

predator on October 28, 2012 at 2:20 AM

Opera?
Did you mention opera?

PolAgnostic on October 28, 2012 at 2:31 AM

Barry is the cover of Sports Illustrated.

bayview on October 28, 2012 at 2:28 AM

If that’s the case, we know what happens to cover boys on SI the week after. More bad news for the Loser in Chief.

TXUS on October 28, 2012 at 2:32 AM

I Ain’t Drunk

novaculus on October 28, 2012 at 2:33 AM

LOL! I never doubted that you could. I’m glad you shared these insights with me, though. I appreciate it when someone shares good music with me. :)

thatsafactjack on October 28, 2012 at 2:22 AM

I look forward to doin’ more of it, jackie. Always a pleasure conversing with you. And now we can share some music vids that we both appreciate. Cool. I’ll leave you with this one. Then I have to go to bed. Haven’t been up this late since I went to day shift. *see what you make me do?*

The 1812 by Bond. Enjoy. And Good Night.

predator on October 28, 2012 at 2:34 AM

PolAgnostic on October 28, 2012 at 2:24 AM

Good evening, PolAgnostic. How are you this evening?

As for CBS… and the rest of the industry… sex and blood linger on the screen and in the minds of the viewer. Too much can interfere with the viewer’s ability to follow more complex and important plot elements, lost in the memory and sensation of the graphic imagery. I encourage writers to keep it to a minimum, use it effectively for maximum impact, and when possible, use suggestion, instead. Subtlety causes the viewer to fill in the blanks, which means that they are now part of the creative process. This, in turn, causes them to be more fully enveloped in the plot.

The fact that the industry has come to the point that they wish to maximize profits, even if that means, in Orson Welles terms ‘brutalizing the audience’, and the executives clearly believe that maxim that ‘sex and violence sell’ is precisely why quality content has dropped so very low.

thatsafactjack on October 28, 2012 at 2:35 AM

predator on October 28, 2012 at 2:34 AM

Goodnight, Predator. Very nice sharing some music and spending some time with you. I look forward to doing it again very soon. The tune is wonderful. Thank you. Sleep well. :)

thatsafactjack on October 28, 2012 at 2:37 AM

As The Years Go Passing By – Moore

I bid you all goodnight. Its been a pleasure, as always. See you soon.

thatsafactjack on October 28, 2012 at 2:42 AM

G’night Jackie

novaculus on October 28, 2012 at 2:45 AM

thatsafactjack on October 28, 2012 at 2:35 AM

.
I am well. I have been researching solar panels, geothermal systems, “acoustic eyes” and “how to build your radar for $ 250″ …

… so I’ve only browsed by a few times.

I’d be interested in your take on CBS’s new show Partners, if you have seen any of it which uses “clever wordplay” to push the limits more than sex and violence.

They have a lead in from How I Met your Mother so they are not pushing the visual envelop yet …

All that being said, Goodnight and Pleasant Dreams!

PolAgnostic on October 28, 2012 at 2:51 AM

thatsafactjack on October 28, 2012 at 2:35 AM

In two paragraphs you have summed up what’s wrong today with the current screens, small and large. This particular art has been so dumbed down in recent years, in an attempt to somehow reach an audience instead of elevate it, that the underlying fun of it all has been submerged far too often in blood and guts and CGI and cheap thrills. Hey, I don’t blame anyone for making money off feeding the zoo, but if they wake up one day and there aren’t any animals there to feed, well, maybe they should’ve thought about that first.

TXUS on October 28, 2012 at 3:01 AM

Valerie. Jihadists. There’s a difference?

predator on October 28, 2012 at 1:02 AM

Heh. Good point.

Valerie Jarrett scares me.

Only thing she’s done well is get Bob Gibbs fired. She messed with his head, telling him the First Lady was mad at him (when she wasn’t). He erupted and said “Eff the First Lady” and he was GONE.

According to book “Leading From Behind” … which also alleges Valerie runs the country.

Nicole Coulter on October 28, 2012 at 3:26 AM

And the media wanted to make this about Mitt Romney.

They are beyond contempt.

WisCon on October 28, 2012 at 3:38 AM

[A]s of right now, outside of a very few exceptions, the CorruptMedia has coordinated with the White House to create a complete blackout around this story. Not even yesterday’s denial from the CIA that indirectly implicates the White House garnered any media attention.

In the closing days of a reelection campaign the CorruptMedia is desperate to see Obama win, it’s glaringly obvious that nothing this potentially damaging to the president will be allowed to see the light of day — at least not until after November 6.

Had Obama answered Clark’s question yesterday, he would’ve violated this unspoken blackout agreement by making news. This would’ve forced the CorruptMedia to cover a story they’re desperate to pretend doesn’t exist. Obama knows his Media Palace Guards are covering for him, and he knew that wouldn’t have been possible had he done anything that nudged the story.

There will be an enterprising reporter this week who will doggedly question Obama or one of his campaign surrogates with very pointed, specific questions. They will have to agree to give certain information about what Obama knew, and they will have to give it ASAP. News will be made in the exchange. The blackout will not hold up from now until election day.

The question is which journalists have the integrity to do this. Here is their chance to perform an important service for the public.

bluegill on October 28, 2012 at 3:41 AM

And the media wanted to make this about Mitt Romney.
They are beyond contempt.
WisCon on October 28, 2012 at 3:38 AM

They are still doing this. They keep asking, “why isn’t Mitt bringing this up, if it’s so important?” They know that will possibly drive a wedge through the conservative electorate.

Of course, if Mitt did bring up the issue again this week, then they would go ballistic and accuse him of politicizing the matter. It would be a full week of nonstop Mitt-bashing. Not helpful. The Romney campaign is right to let others push this issue.

Right now the Romney campaign should be allowed to do whatever it needs to do to win.

bluegill on October 28, 2012 at 4:01 AM

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canopfor on October 28, 2012 at 4:25 AM

Sarah, sununu, trump. dogs according to mattthews. as in, if you have dogs you don’t need to attack.

3 libs screaming their bloody heads off. gotta bode well for mitt.

renalin on October 28, 2012 at 7:11 AM

Knock, knock. Hello? Anyone here? Looks in window, knocks again.

esr1951 on October 28, 2012 at 7:11 AM

Does anybody know anything more about the reports of busloads of Somalis heading to Ohio polling places? I still don’t understand what that was all about. Who are these people, and where did did they come from?

bluegill on October 28, 2012 at 7:14 AM


Leftists, if you have even an iota of decency, …
Schadenfreude on October 27, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Asked and Answered

clippermiami on October 28, 2012 at 7:20 AM

bluegill on October 28, 2012 at 7:14 AM

http://www.humanevents.com/2012/10/26/is-voter-fraud-being-committed-in-ohio/

Some small time dubious GOTV activities by the ACORN type. Columbus, OH has one of the largest Somalian community. The problem was that those guys did not speak English, and the interpreter was telling them how to vote, and what to vote for. But that was not all that different from those ACORN operatives scouring old folks homes and getting semi-cogent residents to vote foe dems or cigarette for votes in homeless shelters.

One thing that points to our broken immigration system is this

over 45,000 Somalis live in Ohio. Only 40 percent have become citizens of the United States, and only 25 percent speak English well enough to get a job.

Can we say likely leechers on the system?

bayview on October 28, 2012 at 7:36 AM

You need to say that with a deeper voice, like this.

predator on October 28, 2012 at 12:15 AM

Just saw this – this is great!
Maybe you read my post in that voice. :)

22044 on October 28, 2012 at 7:41 AM

[A]s of right now, outside of a very few exceptions, the CorruptMedia has coordinated with the White House to create a complete blackout around this story. Not even yesterday’s denial from the CIA that indirectly implicates the White House garnered any media attention.

There was the Jack Tapper piece in ABC News. Boston Herald also had an editorial calling out the administration on the cover out.

The latest MSM piece on the subject is in the small and thinly circulated though well regarded Christian Science Monitors

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Military/2012/1027/Benghazi-attack-Urgent-call-for-military-help-was-denied-by-chain-of-command

bayview on October 28, 2012 at 7:42 AM

bayview on October 28, 2012 at 7:36 AM

Not to worry. The U.N. monitors will be on top of this, if they’re not at the bottom of Lake Erie.

RedWinged Blackbird on October 28, 2012 at 7:44 AM

bayview on October 28, 2012 at 7:36 AM

Aw, makes sense now. Thank you very much for that explanation.

bluegill on October 28, 2012 at 7:51 AM

@BretBaier

multiple sources incldg Gen Ham himself say the report that he was relieved of his cmd over Benghazi, or anything else, are NOT true – 1/2.

@BretBaier

2/2 it was a long scheduled change of command at AFRICOM announced on Oct 19…We are digging on all fronts but we will always be fair

Flora Duh on October 28, 2012 at 7:52 AM

There will be an enterprising reporter this week who will doggedly question Obama or one of his campaign surrogates with very pointed, specific questions. They will have to agree to give certain information about what Obama knew, and they will have to give it ASAP. News will be made in the exchange. The blackout will not hold up from now until election day.

The question is which journalists have the integrity to do this. Here is their chance to perform an important service for the public.

bluegill on October 28, 2012 at 3:41 AM

Not a chance. They believe down in the depths of their black hearts that keeping Obama in office is the most important service they can do for the public.

And the rest of the world? Laughing at us for our incompetence and cowardice.

fossten on October 28, 2012 at 7:54 AM

bayview on October 28, 2012 at 7:36 AM

I think people need to be sure to bring their smartphones with them when they are volunteering and when they go to the polls, so that they can video record anything suspicious like this and post it online immediately.

bluegill on October 28, 2012 at 7:55 AM

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Cincinnati Enquirer supports @MittRomney: “It’s time for new leadership from Mitt Romney”

@RyanGOP

Danville (VA) Register Bee endorses @MittRomney: “Romney has skills U.S. desperately needs now”

‏@RyanGOP

Sioux City Journal (IA) endorses @MittRomney: “He’s the change America needs”

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Naples Daily News flips to @MittRomney after supporting Obama in 08: “We have more confidence in Romney to lead us”

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Flora Duh on October 28, 2012 at 7:55 AM

Flora Duh on October 28, 2012 at 7:52 AM

Yes, turns out to be a bogus conspiracy theory.

bayview on October 28, 2012 at 7:57 AM

@SethMcLaughlin1: Tampa Bay Times front page: I-4 going for Romney http://t.co/b6gTLZjv

Flora Duh on October 28, 2012 at 7:58 AM

Flora Duh on October 28, 2012 at 7:55 AM

Yes, but who does the “oh so sophisticated and all knowing” NYT, WaPo, Boston Grope endorse?

bayview on October 28, 2012 at 8:02 AM

Yes, turns out to be a bogus conspiracy theory.

bayview on October 28, 2012 at 7:57 AM

Yes, those have a tendency to abound when we have an administration and media that lies and covers up the truth.

Yes, but who does the “oh so sophisticated and all knowing” NYT, WaPo, Boston Grope endorse?

bayview on October 28, 2012 at 8:02 AM

meh. Who cares what those rubes think. :-)

Flora Duh on October 28, 2012 at 8:07 AM

The choice this year is Class vs. Crass. My take.

kingsjester on October 28, 2012 at 9:07 AM

“Neither the president nor anyone in the White House denied any requests for assistance in Benghazi,” National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor told Yahoo News by email…

BS
Then why this

Stennis CSG commander sent home; probe ongoing

By Tony Lombardo – Staff writer
Posted : Saturday Oct 27, 2012 10:29:28 EDT
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2012/10/navy-stennis-carrier-strike-group-commander-sent-home-charles-gaouette-102712w/

I bet the Admiral was livid when told to “stand down”.
He should retire and tell the world the truth. His career is over anyhow.
~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on October 28, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Karl Magnus on October 28, 2012 at 12:55 PM

As shown over the previous pages, the Stennis was no where a position to intervene.

Don’t go swallowing red herrings.

cozmo on October 28, 2012 at 1:28 PM

no where near a position that is.

cozmo on October 28, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Barry will yell louder and louder the more Benghazi haunts his Macbethbama of a campaign.

Banquo’s Stevens’ ghost is dogging him.

profitsbeard on October 28, 2012 at 2:09 PM

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