WaPo fact check gives Obama seven Pinocchios on the sequester and mammograms at Planned Parenthood

posted at 1:21 pm on October 26, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

There is an old saying that success has a thousand fathers, but failure is an orphan.  That gives a lot of insight into the sequestration clause in last year’s debt-ceiling deal, which has not just left Barack Obama’s own Secretary of Defense warning about its “devastating” impact on the military, but also economists warning about the damage it will wreak on the economy.  Obama tried to dodge responsibility for the sequestration when Mitt Romney criticized him for it during the final debate, claiming that “[t]he sequester is not something that I’ve proposed. It is something that Congress has proposed.”

That came as news to the man who literally wrote the book on that deal, Bob Woodward.  Woodward teamed up with Washington Post fact checker Glenn Kessler this morning, and the result is four Pinocchios — thanks to OMB chief Jack Lew’s attempt to shore up Obama’s false claim:

In sum: [Director of the National Economic Council and Obama adviser] Gene Sperling brought up the idea of a sequester, while Jack Lew sold Harry Reid on the idea and then decided to use the Gramm-Hollings-Rudman language (which he knew from his days of working for Tip O’Neill) as a template for sequester. The proposal was so unusual for Republicans that staffers had to work through the night to understand it.

Oddly, Lew in Tampa on Thursday, publicly asserted the opposite: “There was an insistence on the part of Republicans in Congress for there to be some automatic trigger…. [It] was very much rooted in the Republican congressional insistence that there be an automatic measure at the end.”

This prompted Woodward to go over his notes and interviews once again, to make sure he had gotten it right.

“After reviewing all the interviews and the extensive material I have on this issue, it looks like President Obama told a whopper,” Woodward said.  “Based on what Jack Lew said in Florida today, I have asked the White House to correct the record.”

We had been wavering between Three and Four Pinocchios. But in light’s of Lew’s decision to double down on Obama’s claim, we agree it’s a whopper.

We noted the same the day after the debate, and the Daily Caller did as well.  What’s interesting in this case is Obama’s efforts to distance himself from a proposal his own team succeeded in enacting through bipartisan efforts to solve the budget crisis.  After all, Obama could have just responded that Republicans agreed with him, and argued that it showed the ability to work through crises on a bipartisan basis.  Instead, Obama simply told a fairy tale, and the man who pushed the sequester with Harry Reid ended up backing him with another false statement.

If you want to see why this administration can’t succeed at working across the aisle, this is a great example, although there are plenty of others (such as inviting Paul Ryan to a speech on the budget and then calling him un-American for his approach).  Obama managed to get Republicans to agree to the sequester trigger that his own team proposed, and the minute it went south, Obama blamed them not just for agreeing to it but falsely accusing his opponents of bringing it up in the first place.

But that’s not the end of the Pinocchios.  Kessler gives Obama three more Pinocchios for his claim on the Tonight Show that Planned Parenthood provides mammograms.  This repeated claim, Kessler writes, “suggests an intentional effort to mislead voters”:

The president has suggested time and again that Planned Parenthood directly provides mammograms, but the organization only offers referrals and helps women find financial resources for the exams. This suggests an intentional attempt to mislead voters about all the services that are at stake with decisions regarding federal funding for the controversial group.

Obama’s campaign points out that the incumbent was referring in each case to Planned Parenthood’s broader role as a health-care provider. But that doesn’t make his remarks any less inaccurate.

We wavered between Two or Three Pinocchios but ultimately decided the president earns Three Pinocchios for his mammogram remarks on “The Tonight Show.” He has repeated them too many times in one form or another for this to be considered just playing with words to generate a misleading impression.

Katie Pavlich called this the “Mammosham.”

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Still Shocked, Shocked I tell ya !

FlaMurph on October 26, 2012 at 1:22 PM

For Obama it’s not about the truth, it’s about vilification of Republicans. When you have nothing all you can do is attack and lie.

Oil Can on October 26, 2012 at 1:23 PM

But that’s not the end of the Pinocchios. Kessler gives Obama three more Pinocchios for his claim on the Tonight Show that Planned Parenthood provides mammograms. This repeated claim, Kessler writes, “suggests an intentional effort to mislead voters”

Ya think? Lies are all The Whine has.

rbj on October 26, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Yeah, but Romney’s a lying liar who lies a lot.

aunursa on October 26, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Maybe, Obama wants to collect as many Pinocchios as possible before he leaves office in January. He could be a hoarder.

Fallon on October 26, 2012 at 1:25 PM

But they endorsed him (no surprise).

Dingbat63 on October 26, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Live speech on Romney’s economic plans being delivered live on Fox.

JPeterman on October 26, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Looking for some place to post this. The Boston Globe goes ahead with its “Romney helped a guy in a divorce” story, and hilarity ensues. Look at the comments. One shot at the Globe after another. Even democrats are getting into the action, calling the hit job “embarrassing.”

You see, Romney was supposed to KNOW what the stock in this new company was going to sell for — a year later. He was supposed to KNOW, dammit!

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

Rational Thought on October 26, 2012 at 1:25 PM

OT: Mitt’s giving a great speech in Iowa right now.

Doughboy on October 26, 2012 at 1:26 PM

Little Orphan Barry

faraway on October 26, 2012 at 1:26 PM

Barry’s nose is so long he can’t turn around in the Astrodome.

NoDonkey on October 26, 2012 at 1:27 PM

OT: mitt sounding real good now in IOWA

the problem is not with what dear leader inherited but what he has done since then

BAM!

cmsinaz on October 26, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Has there been any other Presidnt who has lied so much and all the time? Even Bill Clinton has not lied so much about policies…

mnjg on October 26, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Just saw that in today’s Gallup poll, not only is Romney up 51-46, but Zero’s approval dropped 3 points in one day. Today’s news out of Libya that he left those fine Americans to die alone, and then went to bed so he’d be rested for his fund-raising trip to Vegas, won’t be helping that number.

Rational Thought on October 26, 2012 at 1:29 PM

There is an old saying that success has a thousand fathers, but failure is an orphan.

Factcheck: FALSE. Obama’s a failure, and he had at least four fathers.

Fabozz on October 26, 2012 at 1:29 PM

President Romney is speaking

faraway on October 26, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Mitt is beating the crap out of the boy king in his speech at Ames.

JPeterman on October 26, 2012 at 1:30 PM

There is an old saying that success has a thousand fathers, but failure is an orphan

Or in obozo’s case failure had a father he didn’t really know and a step father.

Flange on October 26, 2012 at 1:30 PM

I sure hope he hasn’t lied to us about anything else.

a capella on October 26, 2012 at 1:31 PM

President Romney is speaking

faraway on October 26, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Heh. He does sound far more Presidential than the current occupant.

Doughboy on October 26, 2012 at 1:31 PM

Drudge:

GALLUP HAS SUPER MITT at 51%

Do you believe in Miracles ?????

FlaMurph on October 26, 2012 at 1:32 PM

WaPo fact check gives Obama seven Pinocchios on the sequester and mammograms at Planned Parenthood

And completely ignores the Benghazi Stand Down order…

SWalker on October 26, 2012 at 1:33 PM

If Obama told a truth, nobody would believe him.
Therefore, all he does is lie. And about 45% of voters believe him.
Think about it.

Jabberwock on October 26, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Drudge:

GALLUP HAS SUPER MITT at 51%

Do you believe in Miracles ?????

FlaMurph on October 26, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Mitt’s not in heaven. He’s in Iowa.

Doughboy on October 26, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Mitt has yet to mention the levels of the oceans.
/sad

faraway on October 26, 2012 at 1:37 PM

Obama tried to dodge responsibility for the sequestration when Mitt Romney criticized him for it during the final debate, claiming that “[t]he sequester is not something that I’ve proposed. It is something that Congress has proposed.”

In sum: [Director of the National Economic Council and Obama adviser] Gene Sperling brought up the idea of a sequester, while Jack Lew sold Harry Reid on the idea and then decided to use the Gramm-Hollings-Rudman language (which he knew from his days of working for Tip O’Neill) as a template for sequester. The proposal was so unusual for Republicans that staffers had to work through the night to understand it.

I’m perfectly willing to believe that The Misfit Commie had no idea about his own apparatchiks doing something that he was unaware of.

This is what happens when all you’ve ever done is ride the affirmative action train, all the way to the top. After all, even with his Ivy League “education,” he’s nothing but a Community Organizer.

OhEssYouCowboys on October 26, 2012 at 1:37 PM

I don’t know what’s worse: the fact that the media can say Obama lies, but they won’t use the word ‘lie’ or call him a liar; or that today it doesn’t seem to matter that the highest office-holder in the land is a liar.

Marcola on October 26, 2012 at 1:37 PM

Do you believe in Miracles ?????

FlaMurph on October 26, 2012 at 1:32 PM

From Twitter just now:

Romneys camp says Minnesota is…tied! They’re putting ads up there now. Tied! In Minnesota!

Rational Thought on October 26, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Do you believe in Miracles ?????

FlaMurph on October 26, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Ain’t a miracle.

cozmo on October 26, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Yeah, but…doesn’t Romney tie dogs upside down to the roof of his car?

Now that is a story!

Planned Infanticide is a private corporation. Liberals hate corporate welfare, don’t they? Then why do they scream so loud for tax dollars to be send to a private enterprise?

The fact Obama doesn’t know PP doesn’t do mammograms says a lot about him, the Democrat Party, and the political Left as a whole.

Liam on October 26, 2012 at 1:39 PM

From Twitter just now:

Romneys camp says Minnesota is…tied! They’re putting ads up there now. Tied! In Minnesota!

Rational Thought on October 26, 2012 at 1:38 PM

And it must be true b/c I just read that Zero’s team is putting ads up there, too. Never thought they’d have to!

Rational Thought on October 26, 2012 at 1:39 PM

Romneys camp says Minnesota is…tied! They’re putting ads up there now. Tied! In Minnesota!

Rational Thought on October 26, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Winning Minnesota however, would be a miracle.

cozmo on October 26, 2012 at 1:40 PM

Again…for the Ozero faithful…he could have spent the entire debate strangling kittens and puppies and they would still drink deep of the kool aid.

BigWyo on October 26, 2012 at 1:40 PM

ABC Poll Shows Romney Leading by 19% among Independent Voters

President Obama won Independents by 8% in 2008

faraway on October 26, 2012 at 1:41 PM

Shameless liar lies. News at 11.

NotCoach on October 26, 2012 at 1:41 PM

He wouldn’t be the Obama we’ve come to know if he didn’t lie about everything.

sadatoni on October 26, 2012 at 1:42 PM

Romneys camp says Minnesota is…tied! They’re putting ads up there now. Tied! In Minnesota!

Rational Thought on October 26, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Have they polled the cemeteries? If not, the race is actually D +10.

Archivarix on October 26, 2012 at 1:42 PM

7 Pinocchios = liar according to my math

scalleywag on October 26, 2012 at 1:43 PM

I’ll take your 7 Pinocchios and raise you a dozen oh-no’s.

And the mainstream media says…… “Yawn”

KMC1 on October 26, 2012 at 1:43 PM

From Twitter just now:

Romneys camp says Minnesota is…tied! They’re putting ads up there now. Tied! In Minnesota!

Rational Thought on October 26, 2012 at 1:38 PM

God I hope that’s true…We could maybe ease that whole Al Franken thing a bit.

BigWyo on October 26, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Obama lied?

I’m speechless and my jaw is on the floor.

//

Bitter Clinger on October 26, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Again…for the Ozero faithful…he could have spent the entire debate strangling kittens and puppies and they would still drink deep of the kool aid.

BigWyo on October 26, 2012 at 1:40 PM

Absotively.

They’re no better than half of the Russians, who long for a return to the police State – and who still venerate Stalin.

As long as the State provides them with their ration cards.

OhEssYouCowboys on October 26, 2012 at 1:45 PM

MN Sec of State Mark Ritchie just put in an emergency order to the Lizard People…car trunks are being stuffed at this very moment.

BigWyo on October 26, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Has there been any other Presidnt who has lied so much and all the time? Even Bill Clinton has not lied so much about policies…

mnjg on October 26, 2012 at 1:28 PM

I gotta say that I never thought we’d see another politician, let alone President, that could lie more and have a bigger ego than Bill Clinton.

Bitter Clinger on October 26, 2012 at 1:46 PM

+100 doughboy @1:34

cmsinaz on October 26, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Using the sequester to devestate our military was the Democrats’ game plan the ENTIRE TIME.

Republicans were stupid to agree to it in the first place.

If Republicans had refused to incresae the debt limit, it would have FORCED a defacto balanced budget, because the government would not have been allowed to spend more than it brought in.

There is enough coming in on a monthly basis to pay our debt payments, pay our military, pay Social Security, and a bit left over. It’s just that that bit left over is not enough to pay for all of the other agencies. They would have been forced to downsize their spending to match the revenue available. That would have been a good thing, and likely would have prevented the downgrade in our bond rating.

Boehner blew it. He didn’t understand why Republicans flipped more seats in 2010 than Democrats flipped in the wake of Watergate. He didn’t understand that he was made Speaker for the specific objective of stopping the Democrats’ Cloward–Piven agenda.

ITguy on October 26, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Mitt’s not in heaven. He’s in Iowa.

Doughboy on October 26, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Is this Heaven? No, it’s Iowa.

:-)

Resist We Much on October 26, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Have they polled the cemeteries? If not, the race is actually D +10.

Archivarix on October 26, 2012 at 1:42 PM

They could have internal polls that show them close. Look, Mitt ain’t a dumb guy. There are only 3 reasons to spend money in Minnesota at this stage of the race:

1) A headfake to scare the crap out of Obama and give the GOP a talking point about an impending landslide

2) The Romney campaign has so much cash on hand that they figure they can afford to spend a little in MN

3) They have internal polls showing they’re within striking distance in MN

Doughboy on October 26, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Planned Parenthood is a Health Care provider? That is as offensive as claiming that the gas chambers at Auschwitz were for showers.

Planned Parenthood is an abortion mill first, last and always.

natasha333 on October 26, 2012 at 1:50 PM

Mitt’s not in heaven. He’s in Iowa.

Doughboy on October 26, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Is this Heaven? No, it’s Iowa.

:-)

Resist We Much on October 26, 2012 at 1:47 PM

And let’s not forget…

“If you build it….nah, you didn’t build that.”

Doughboy on October 26, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Planned Parenthood is a Health Care provider? That is as offensive as claiming that the gas chambers at Auschwitz were for showers.

Planned Parenthood is an abortion mill first, last and always.

natasha333 on October 26, 2012 at 1:50 PM

Bad enough is the murder of babies. But, because tax money go to that private, multi-million dollar corporation, I feel like I’m forced into being an unwilling partner in crime.

Liam on October 26, 2012 at 1:53 PM

“If you build it….nah, you didn’t build that.”

Doughboy on October 26, 2012 at 1:51 PM

:-)

Resist We Much on October 26, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Yeah, but…doesn’t Romney tie dogs upside down to the roof of his car?

Liam on October 26, 2012 at 1:39 PM

COme on. Get the facts straight. Seamus wasn’t upside down…..

Tenwheeler on October 26, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Doughboy on October 26, 2012 at 1:51 PM

“If you build it, Obama will say you didn’t.”

ITguy on October 26, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Planned Parenthood is a Health Care provider? That is as offensive as claiming that the gas chambers at Auschwitz were for showers.

Planned Parenthood is an abortion mill first, last and always.

natasha333 on October 26, 2012 at 1:50 PM

Bingo. And an abortion “doctor” is on the same level as the SS, death camp, pig, who immediately directed disembarked children to the “showers.”

It’s the same fate.

OhEssYouCowboys on October 26, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Let us not forget the low level of intelligence of many Obama supporters. They probably couldn’t even spell sequestration, let alone understand it. So what if Obama lied about it? If Obama said he had nothing to do with something that they those evil Republicans say is bad, why, they are just going to believe Obama.

And then they’ll go cash their gooberment check.

natasha333 on October 26, 2012 at 1:55 PM

They could have internal polls that show them close. Look, Mitt ain’t a dumb guy. There are only 3 reasons to spend money in Minnesota at this stage of the race:

1) A headfake to scare the crap out of Obama and give the GOP a talking point about an impending landslide

2) The Romney campaign has so much cash on hand that they figure they can afford to spend a little in MN

3) They have internal polls showing they’re within striking distance in MN

Doughboy on October 26, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Missed one..
4) It is becoming a landslide…..

Tenwheeler on October 26, 2012 at 1:56 PM

Biden accuses Romney of wanting a $500 TRILLION tax cut!!!

http://nation.foxnews.com/joe-biden/2012/10/26/video-biden-accuses-romney-500-trillion-tax-cut

They beclown themselves more and more each day….

….year, actually. Remember when Maerose Prizzi said that every month that passed without the Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Stimulus Act would mean ANOTHER 500 million Americans would lose their jobs???

Resist We Much on October 26, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Barry: You can trust me.

bayview on October 26, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Missed one..
4) It is becoming a landslide…..

Tenwheeler on October 26, 2012 at 1:56 PM

Well that sort of overlaps #3 on my list, but I’m starting to get that feeling.

BTW, the Dems can’t even get their talking points straight. Bite Me just accused Romney of wanting to cut taxes by $500 trillion. And no, I’m not making that up.

Doughboy on October 26, 2012 at 1:57 PM

COme on. Get the facts straight. Seamus wasn’t upside down…..

Tenwheeler on October 26, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Well, how do you know? Were you there? Every liberal knows Seamus was tied upside down. I mean, really–the accusation itself is enough to make the charge true, you know.

If you’re going to defend Romney, you must be a racist. Just ask Chris Matthews. He knows best!

(just ribbing you, to tweak liberal noses)

Liam on October 26, 2012 at 1:59 PM

But they endorsed him (no surprise).

Dingbat63 on October 26, 2012 at 1:25 PM

WaPo fact check gives Obama seven Pinocchios on the sequester and mammograms at Planned Parenthood
And completely ignores the Benghazi Stand Down order…

SWalker on October 26, 2012 at 1:33 PM

…the media lets him get away with it…and we wonder how he has the ba11s to keep doing it!
Enablers!

KOOLAID2 on October 26, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Barry: You can trust me.

bayview on October 26, 2012 at 1:57 PM

The same thing a cheating wife would say when her hubby catches her in bed with another guy.

Liam on October 26, 2012 at 2:01 PM

It is pathetic that Romney has not followed the tradition of having his own pre-presidential seal on lecterns. If he wants to look presidential and sound presidential he needs to act presidential. Where are the crowd fainters? Obviously he is not sufficiently swoonish. He needs to assume the pre-presidential mantel and talk about big nebulous ideas that no one can disagree. Now that’s presidential. It brings people together. Note to Mitt, stop with the details and wonkishness. No one cares! And why double down with the accountant running mate? Who thinks accountants are cool? Answer, no one.

Can we get back to big bird! ” these things called air craft carrier” Obama is awsome with the put downs! In the immortal words of Joe Biden, “Barack has a big stick and knows how to use it! Your election choice couldn’t be clearer…the town accountants or the co-captains of the basketball team.

R Square on October 26, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Better get a fact check going on good old Biden.
Just claimed Republican’s want to continue a 5 Hundred Trillion dollar cut for some 125,000 wealthy folks.

You could not make this guy up.

Jabberwock on October 26, 2012 at 2:04 PM

For what he’s lying about on Benghazi as to what he knew and when he knew it, I doubt WaPo has enough Pinocchios to give out.

TXUS on October 26, 2012 at 2:08 PM

WaPo fact check gives Obama seven Pinocchios…

Gee, an’ all I gave him was the finger…

M240H on October 26, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Pinocchios by the Washington Post and yet they still endorse him. Paper is trash.

COgirl on October 26, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Every time WaPo fact checks Obama, they confirm his status as Liar-in-Chief. Yet, WaPo still endorses him. Huh? Whadup wit dat?

SpiderMike on October 26, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Who cares who idea that deal was? It DOES NOT excuse the GOP house which could have prevented it.

Two parties to every contract folks – and no one put a gun to Crybaby John Boehner’s head to go along with this. This was his decision to go along … pure and simple. He did it for political reasons … political cowardice. He had a group of Tea Party freshmen barking at him to do something about the debt ceiling, with many calling for a shutdown in government. He didn’t have the balls to shut down the government – just like he didn’t have the balls to pull $100 Billion out of last year’s budget after he promised at CPAC that he would.

So – in order to satisfy everyone (particularly the cowardly lion within himself) … he cut a deal with the devil (Obama), it wasn’t the first he’s cut and it wasn’t the last.

HondaV65 on October 26, 2012 at 2:17 PM

Every time WaPo fact checks Obama, they confirm his status as Liar-in-Chief. Yet, WaPo still endorses him. Huh? Whadup wit dat?

SpiderMike on October 26, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Because the alternative sucks too.

HondaV65 on October 26, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Hey Obungler! What about my mortgage? What about filling my car with gas? What about my groceries?

You promised and I lost my home, had to sell my car and now have to walk to the foodbank.

You lied!

johnnybgood on October 26, 2012 at 2:19 PM

A bad performance over 4 years, horrendous policies, regulations by dictact, contempt for the country, negative campaigning, lies, lies, lies…

How is this guy tied in the polls at all?!

ptcamn on October 26, 2012 at 2:20 PM

Biden accuses Romney of wanting a $500 TRILLION tax cut!!!

http://nation.foxnews.com/joe-biden/2012/10/26/video-biden-accuses-romney-500-trillion-tax-cut

They beclown themselves more and more each day….

….year, actually. Remember when Maerose Prizzi said that every month that passed without the Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Stimulus Act would mean ANOTHER 500 million Americans would lose their jobs???

Resist We Much on October 26, 2012 at 1:57 PM

I would laugh except this guy can be the next President in a heart beat.

Oil Can on October 26, 2012 at 2:29 PM

Missed one..
4) It is becoming a landslide…..

Tenwheeler on October 26, 2012 at 1:56 PM

Well that sort of overlaps #3 on my list, but I’m starting to get that feeling.

Doughboy on October 26, 2012 at 1:57 PM

In 2010, Republicans flipped more seats than the Democrats flipped in the wake of Watergate.

I see no reason to believe that Republicans would have less seats in the House next session.

Redistricting has, if anything, made districts less favorable to Democrats.

I expect that 2012 turnout will look more like 2010 turnout than 2008 turnout.

If you take the current make-up of the House, and assume that for each state the party which holds more seats in the U.S. House of Representatives now will continue to hold the most seats after the 2012 election, and also assume that that party will win that state’s overall popular vote in both the Presidential and Senate races (if there is one in that state), then Republicans should keep the House, win the Senate, and Romney wins with over 300 Electoral College votes.

ITguy on October 26, 2012 at 2:29 PM

So basically the Washington Post actively endorses repetitive lying. (They enodrse Obama, Obama lies repeatedly, particularly on the mammogram issue, Libya, etc.) I don’t think they have to look any further for the reason Americans no longer trust the media.

talkingpoints on October 26, 2012 at 2:33 PM

I would laugh except this guy can be the next President in a heart beat.

Oil Can on October 26, 2012 at 2:29 PM

Don’t forget that, at the time, Maerose was in line right behind him.

Resist We Much on October 26, 2012 at 2:37 PM

If Obama ever told the truth, it would trigger a matter-antimatter explosion.

The Rogue Tomato on October 26, 2012 at 2:44 PM

“Based on what Jack Lew said in Florida today, I have asked the White House to correct the record.”

Woodward keeps it up and he’s going to be investigated by the IRS and the FBI.

GarandFan on October 26, 2012 at 3:09 PM

“What a coincidence! I personally know seven people named Pinocchio.” – Jay Carney

Left Coast Right Mind on October 26, 2012 at 3:16 PM

The best thing in life is to see the liberals driven before you and hear the lamentations of their media prostitutes.

drunyan8315 on October 26, 2012 at 3:58 PM