Q3 GDP: 2.0%

posted at 9:21 am on October 26, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Looks like I had it about right yesterday, after the latest durable-goods report showed some of the lost ground being regained in the final month of the third quarter.  The economy expanded in the third quarter at an annualized rate of 2.0%, a slight improvement over Q2′s 1.3% but still stuck firmly in the stagnation band.  One reason, though, is because the federal government spent at a faster rate than earlier:

Real gross domestic product — the output of goods and services produced by labor and property located in the United States — increased at an annual rate of 2.0 percent in the third quarter of 2012 (that is, from the second quarter to the third quarter), according to the “advance” estimate released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis. In the second quarter, real GDP increased 1.3 percent.

The Bureau emphasized that the third-quarter advance estimate released today is based on source data that are incomplete or subject to further revision by the source agency (see box below). The “second” estimate for the third quarter, based on more complete data, will be released on November 29, 2012.

The increase in real GDP in the third quarter primarily reflected positive contributions from personal consumption expenditures (PCE), federal government spending, and residential fixed investment that were partly offset by negative contributions from exports, nonresidential fixed investment, and private inventory investment. Imports, which are a subtraction in the calculation of GDP, decreased.

The acceleration in real GDP in the third quarter primarily reflected an upturn in federal government spending, a downturn in imports, an acceleration in PCE, a smaller decrease in private inventory investment, an acceleration in residential fixed investment, and a smaller decrease in state and local government spending that were partly offset by downturns in exports and in nonresidential fixed investment.

Here’s the key point on federal spending:

Real federal government consumption expenditures and gross investment increased 9.6 percent in the third quarter, in contrast to a decrease of 0.2 percent in the second. National defense increased 13.0 percent, in contrast to a decrease of 0.2 percent. Nondefense increased 3.0 percent, in contrast to a decrease of 0.4 percent. Real state and local government consumption expenditures and gross investment decreased 0.1 percent, compared with a decrease of 1.0 percent.

That boost has a lot to do with the improvement, especially since exports actually fell in the quarter by 1.6%.  Personal consumption kept pace with the overall number at 2.0%, though — not enough to give any indication of a massive consumer-fueled growth spurt on the horizon.  Real final sales of domestic product came in at 2.1%, which shows that the 2.0% growth wasn’t due to inventory inflation, as was the case at the end of 2009.

Reuters points out the government-fueled number, and also the fact that the year is still coming in lower than last year:

The U.S. economy expanded at a slightly faster 2 percent annual rate from July through September, buoyed by an uptick in consumer spending and a burst of government spending. …

The pickup in gross domestic product may help President Barack Obama’s message that the economy is improving.

Still, growth remains too weak to rapidly boost hiring. And the 1.74 percent rate for 2012 trails last year’s 1.8 percent growth, a point GOP nominee Mitt Romney will emphasize.

No one who understands economics will argue that a 2.0% quarter shows an improving economy, especially not when that number relied on federal government spending increases.  Instead, people will focus on the fact that we’re nowhere near a rate of growth that will even allow job creation to keep up with population growth, let alone put the unemployed back to work.  In fact, we’re close to net job loss level numbers — and I suspect that the second iteration of Q3 GDP due in a month may drop the number a bit lower than we’re seeing today.

Update: Daniel Halper reminds us that this is less than half of what the White House projected growth would be this year:

The average GDP growth for the first three quarters of this year is 1.77 percent, according to data released by the the Bureau of Economic Analysis this morning. That is less than half of what the White House predicted GDP growth would be this year, and less than a third of what the Obama administration projected when it first took office. …

When Obama first came into office, in 2009, the White House projected that GDP growth this year (2012) would be 4.6 percent. Then, in 2010, the White House downplayed that projection to 4.3 percent. And last year, the forecast looked even gloomier, at 3.6 percent.

But as the numbers show, the three quarter average of this year came in even worse: 1.77 percent.

That’s more than just an academic exercise.  Budget projections depend on economic assumptions about growth, which directly impacts revenue and indirectly impacts demand on safety-net programs.  A miss of this magnitude has significant implications for White House budget claims — especially on deficits.


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I wonder if Obama is envious?

pat on May 15, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Obama can offer some tips on how to jump start a country..

No..
Seriously..

Electrongod on May 15, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Maybe it is time to look at the Socialist Ideology behind their economic policies…?

Seven Percent Solution on May 15, 2013 at 9:26 PM

Guess I’d better get rid of those euros that I have left from my trip to Ireland in March, eh?

Bob's Kid on May 15, 2013 at 9:26 PM

BREAKING:

Other People’s money runs out; EU in decline.

BobMbx on May 15, 2013 at 9:27 PM

I wonder if Obama is envious?

pat on May 15, 2013 at 9:25 P

I wonder if Obama knows.

Well, it is on the news so there’s a chance.

BobMbx on May 15, 2013 at 9:28 PM

“The misery continues,” said Carsten Brzeski, a senior economist at ING in Brussels. “Almost all core countries bar Germany are in recession and so far nothing has helped in stopping this downward spiral.

Huh, maybe someone should’ve warned them or something.

squint on May 15, 2013 at 9:33 PM

As Maggie Thatcher was wont to say, “Sooner or later they run out of other peoples money.”

Screw the EU…

Scrumpy on May 15, 2013 at 9:36 PM

I wonder if Obama is envious?

pat on May 15, 2013 at 9:25 P

I wonder if Obama knows.

Well, it is on the news so there’s a chance.

BobMbx on May 15, 2013 at 9:28 PM

…JugEars:like everything else…”I first learned about this…from news reports…like everybody else!”

KOOLAID2 on May 15, 2013 at 9:41 PM

Once upon a time, America had an economy strong enough to lead the world out of recessions.

Then, Progressives came along and America changed.

MTF on May 15, 2013 at 9:46 PM

Hmmmm…..seems all that “free stuff” in the EU wasn’t “free” after all.

Is Barry taking notes?

GarandFan on May 15, 2013 at 9:48 PM

You know it is time for personal intervention when you are reading about economics and politics on HA while the tornado sirens are blaring outside.

Limerick on May 15, 2013 at 9:49 PM

This isn’t good for North America, either.

rickv404 on May 15, 2013 at 9:50 PM

They need a real federal system like we have in the US. That way, the left can screw around until Mercedes looks like GM and Germany goes the way of Michigan.

Then they blame the Swiss or British investors and bankers.

They don’t have our racism but with a little imagination they can whip up a decent copy in reliving wars or soccer games which didn’t work out like they wanted. Ok, it is lame but their version of a Harley sounds like a sewing machine, anyway.

IlikedAUH2O on May 15, 2013 at 9:59 PM

The only way for the Euroweenies to get out of these awful economic doldrums is to raise taxes.

SparkPlug on May 15, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Downward spiral? Wait till they hit Barock bottom.

SparkPlug on May 15, 2013 at 10:00 PM

Womp: Eurozone dragging into its sixth straight quarter of recession

Green shoots!!

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 15, 2013 at 10:02 PM

According to polling data just released from Pew, support for the European Union and the common currency is quickly souring across much of Europe;

I find this bit of “news” interesting because there was never much popular support for the EU. They had to stop holding referenda for their retarded Constitution because it went down in flames the few times it was tried (so they then snuck it in by calling it the Lisbon TREATY, instead … and as a TREATY it didn’t need a plebiscite … yup).

Maybe support has dipped even further but the EU was never able to withstand any popular vote. Heck, in Britain they made a sport of intentionally not letting anyone vote on anything about it.

All that said, Eurotrash is just doing what Eurotrash does … killing themselves and destroying everything within arm’s length of them. They’ve been pulling this destructive suicidal junk for almost a century, now.

Let us not forget that Barky was always a bigger hit in Europe than he ever was, here. Heck, the biggest political rally (possibly in history) was Barky’s illegal, un-Constitutional, un-American and offensive Berlin rally for Germans. Barky never should have been allowed to return to the US after that. The Eurotrash loved him … they should have been forced to keep the retard.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 15, 2013 at 10:07 PM

Can I buy Spain yet on Ebay?

Capitalist Hog on May 15, 2013 at 10:11 PM

How long before they change the EU to eewwww?

socalcon on May 15, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Just as a technical reminder – European GDP estimates are not annualized, so if one wants to compare it to what the BEA puts out there, multiply by 4 to get a close-enough-for-government-work approximation. That makes the overall rate -0.8%, and Germany’s rate +0.4%, on an annualized basis.

As for the continued German support for the pEU, they must be thinking that Brussels is once again in Greater Germany.

Steve Eggleston on May 15, 2013 at 11:26 PM

Can I buy Spain yet on Ebay?

Capitalist Hog on May 15, 2013 at 10:11 PM

S&H is going to kill you.

trigon on May 15, 2013 at 11:47 PM

As Maggie Thatcher was wont to say, “Sooner or later they run out of other peoples money.”

Screw the EU…

Scrumpy on May 15, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Totally agreed!!

jimver on May 16, 2013 at 2:10 AM

This isn’t good for North America, either.

rickv404 on May 15, 2013 at 9:50 PM

If we had accurate data, instead of politically massaged propaganda, we would see Europe is not alone.

dogsoldier on May 16, 2013 at 8:02 AM

Can I buy Spain yet on Ebay?

Capitalist Hog on May 15, 2013 at 10:11 PM

Not yet. But I wouldn’t say it’s impossible that we’ll see such a thing in our lifetimes.

We’re getting a front-row seat at the final stages of what happens to nations that subscribe to some moronic liberal sing-around-the-campfire version of international unity, with a generous dose of economic socialism used in the recipe.

MelonCollie on May 16, 2013 at 8:14 AM